Why Cobblemon Will Ruin Pixelmon
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2023
- In this video I explain why Cobblemon is going to ruin Pixelmon and why Cobblemon is already the better mod...
Cobblemon is a Minecraft mod that brings Pokemon to Minecraft, their goal is to create the ultimate Pokemon experience in Minecraft! Since Cobblemon's release it's caused questions about Pixelmon, is Cobblemon better than Pixelmon?
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#minecraft #cobblemon #pixelmon - Hry
Hope you all enjoy this video🙌
Had a few audio issues, hope it's not too noticeable!
EDIT: I made a mistake, I said only generation 1 Pokemon are available, I was wrong, Generation 2 was recently added, amongst other generations, I didn't notice, sorry!
If I made anymore mistakes, please tell me, I'm not a Pokemon genius😂
Second EDIT: For those accusing me, this is not a sponsored video. If it was, I would say. I'm allowed to like something and be positive about it.
After saying that you also immediately showed a bergmite, which is Gen 6. I think only gens 1 and 2 are completed, but an assortment of pokemon from other gens are in as well.
I think that's why I made my mistake lol
there's loads of others generations of pokemon, but they aren't complete. the only complete generation is gen 1, with all original 151.
@@MonocleMC the creators basically are just designing whatever Pokémon they want whenever they want
Which is what I meant but I wasn't completely accurate
''Only generation 1 Pokemon will spawn on your world''
*Proceeds to immediately show a Stantler*
I done goofed up
Even an Eiscue in the background as he says it lol
@@nergal9668 Stop pointing out my mistakes😭😭
@@MonocleMC haha.... No 👹
Also that Bergmite that was besides the Stantler or the Swinub that he was fighting right after
I gotta say, going from high poly to low poly makes it feel more like vanilla than an actual mod. A new player may never tell! Like your brief overview.
A new player definetly would tell
@@ricardobr1493 nah my mom thought it was part of the gamr
@@tomikun8057 your mom will probably think pixelmon models are also vanilla
@@shreejan_ach nah she doesn't its obviously different. one is blocky one is silky smooth
Vanilla feel is something only eighty year old boomers care about, the reality is you're playing modded minecraft lmao who cares
As an OG dev on Pixelmon, it's so neat to see how expressive and detailed the voxel models can be these days, we were so limited in our ability to scale and texture back then. This was our dream when everything first started out, fun times. Blastoise pre smooth models was the best model I'd ever made and I'm still proud of it today.
Bro it was actually pretty good, except for colors
Ay, much love. You're part of what made our childhood!
Used to watch pixelmon in the 1st grade. Now I'm in my first year in Uni!
Just checked it, honestly prefer it to the new model. If you tweaked it the slightest bit, detail it just a little more, it'd fit perfectly in cobblemon
I seem to recall Pixelmon starting out with a very similar look to Cobblemon. I was pretty disappointed when it moved to smooth, high poly models.
What caused the change?
I never saw this comment, hello again Scarver! Your models were the very best we had back then. And frankly, considering what Techne was like, pretty dope actually
The problem with Pixelmon, when I first played it, is that the models are way too sharp and detailed for Minecraft. The main advantage of Cobblemon, at least for me, is that the models still look great while retaining that blocky feel. Sure, it may not have procedurally generated towns, pokemon centers, or NPCs yet, but it still has awhile to go.
pixelmon is like lycanites mobs, thats why a lot of people hate on those two mods
@@cinderelennhonestly after playing rlcraft till end game it's wild how bad those mobs look compared to say parasites which actually looks like they belong in mc
@@shyguy4617 To be fair though, Lycanite mobs still feel more “vanilla” than Pixelmon due to them still being somewhat blocky in certain areas. Not to mention that they look like something you would see in CrazyCraft.
@@forthelolz1121 There is that one resource pack, Lycanites Redux, which makes the mobs look more blocky and minecraft-like.
I think that the biggest thing Cobblemon had over Pixelmon is that it had Pixelmon’s mistakes to build off of. I’m pretty sure that some of Pixelmons coders are also working on Cobblemon. So they are now aware of what really needs to be done to make the mod really successful.
Edit: man I never thought watching L8Games would somehow get me 100 likes an a comment lol
that is true. Their mistakes definitely lost my interest in Pixelmon. And it sounds like they are being fixed here. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next.
Cobblemon is also led by Pixelmon's old lead dev who was a bit disgruntled on the direction of Pixelmon!
L8games slaps
L8Games... It's been a long time since I've heard that channel
oh there's a whole rabbit hole you can go down on with pixelmon's mistakes.
The fact they have placeholder models literally be substitute is both hilarious and promising considering 1. That means they're working on more pokemon, and 2. they can just reuse the model for the move itself whenever they get to battle animations/effects!
It also means that they can still implement a Pokémon's data before the model is ready! They don't spawn in naturally, but even if you spawn in a pokémon without a model yet, you can catch it and use it because it already has stats, moves, and stuff.
It is quite literally, a substitute model, lol
I’m pretty sure this is because Cobblemon uses Pokémon Showdowns engine. So basically every Pokémon, move, ability, etc are in the game and up to date as long as Pokémon Showdown has it. They just don’t count them as officially in Cobblemon until the Pokémon are modeled and animated
@@orangepeelo905 Yeah
That reminds me of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon so much
As someone who has been a fan of Pixelmon since like 2013 or 14, as well as someone who's donated money to the mod, I gotta say Cobblemon looks like what Pixelmon was originally trying to be and I'm all for it.
The placeholder model for pokemon being a substitute doll is an incredibly cute detail
I like how Cobblemon doesn't remove vanilla mobs entirely too. I saw some sheep in the background. Pixelmon struggles with getting things like mob drops and stuff and is entirely dependant on certain pokemon spawning in and your ability to defeat them in battle.
What's your source?
@@MonocleMC Uhm... your video? I literally saw a sheep in the vid dude. Pixelmon side of things my source is personal experience
I responded to someone else, they must have removed their comment or I accidentally replied to the wrong comment🤨
Something I might want to add to your comment is that it would be cool to add an option to be able to toggle on and off passive and hostile mobs for people that might want to play cobblemon without Minecraft’s vanilla mobs while still having the ability to turn mobs back on if they so wish
Yeah, it's called changing "game mode"...
i’m hoping one day we get to a point where we don’t even need to compare pixelmon and cobblemon. i hear a lot of folks describe cobblemon as “a better version of pixelmon”. while i’m glad everyone loves this mod, i hope it can eventually blossom and grow into its own thing. i know pixelmon has been out for like a decade, but imagine the discussion we could have with cobblemon without the shadow of pixelmon looming over.
it is going to take time sens pixelmon has bin out for so long it has also noting els to really comper to
@@landro9829 ? 🤣
@@origon4477 "It is going to take time, since Pixelmon has been out for so long. It also has nothing else to really compare to."
@@realcupojoe ty and i am sorry for my bad typing.
@@landro9829 why tf you typing like that for 💀💀
My biggest gripe with Pixelmon is just how much of a pain it is to just play it with friends. I don't mean setting it up, that's relatively simple. But just the amount of work that's necessary to create simple stuff like Pokeballs. You need a lid and a base and a button and then the lids and the bases require different kinds of metals and apricorns and they need to be put on an anvil or pressed and don't get me started on the other machinery and it's just.... dude, I want to play a Pokemon in Minecraft, not Minecraft but MORE tedious with some Pokemon that happen to run around.
It is unfortunate minecraft mods tend to forget to make things concise.
If it was done proper Pokeballs would be made by using wood like a chest but placing a wooden button in the middle, Greatballs would be stone, Ultra would be iron, while if you replaced the button with an appricot you'd get a specialized ball that is stronger the better the base would be.
You haven't played recently have you? Hammering the discs has been removed for for MONTHS since the update to 1.16
@@Buglin_Burger7878 That would be a pain to do, make a chest Every time you need 1 pokeball.
@@redvampalucard7040 To be fair, having been removed for MONTHS out of a DECADE isn't exactly that long, and Cobblemon released early this year. It's an entirely reasonable expectation that someone would've jumped ship and never looked back. The fact that it took them this long to fix something so terrible isn't something to defend them over.
Handcrafting Pokeballs should be the DIY alternative to buying them at marts, which highlights the main problem in Pixelmon to me, which Cobblemon doesn't seem to address
Without a server with organized towns and shops and gyms to play in, the game is fun for a moment, and then feels aimless.
On another video showcasing Cobblemon, a user named Holmes commented a list of changes they'd like to see, ALL of which have been confirmed by the art director of Cobblemon in a reply to that comment. Here's what's been confirmed:
1) Randomly generated structures like gyms and stores with healing stations
2) Evolution animations
3) Battle music, battle animations, real-time battles (aka wild Pokemon will either run or attack depending on the day cycle)
4) All Pokemon will eventually be added (including legendaries)
5) Some Pokemon will be rideable
6) Breedable Pokemon and holdable Pokemon eggs
7) Pokedex
8) Picnics with your Pokemon! :)
9) Hostile NPCs like Team Rocket or Team Plasma that will try to steal your Pokemon
I found Holmes' comment on a video by SilverLuck if anyone wants to see more comments made by the devs.
How about form changes and stuff like megas?
yes it is planned@@2-bit567
@@2-bit567It is also planned, so is Dynamax :) (it won’t come until a long time tho)
The main thing I like about Cobblemon is how it uses Pokemon Showdown's battle code. Pixelmon has suffered from a number of battle bugs coupled with months between updates with no hotfixes. Because Showdown is for competitive battles, it's much more polished, and better yet- pre-made.
Oh it does? That's super neat!
It does? damn that sounds so much easier and just better. Many smart minds have worked solely on the showdown battle code, so im sure the quality is quite good.
They could use it just like that? It's freely available?
Damn that's really cool
@Fiufsciak seems like their is a github repository to access the API, maybe their using that idk
There is feature that worth to be mention. If you experienced with blockbench modeling and datapack, you could add your own fakemon( Pokemon that designed by fans ) to the mod as well. They even have official website wiki for that.
I did think about mentioning that, but I didn't want to flood people with too much information.
You can do this also with pixelmon
@@zeddddd2846 I don't think you can
Iron Mugulis vs Tofrug vs Subnoodle
@@cyberneticsquid No, you totally can.
4:20 imagine being in the pokemon world walking outside and seeing someone violantly murdering a pokemon with a sword
I do like that you can actually ATTACK the cobblemon, hope the same comes true for trainers who appear in your base.
Also fingers crossed they will allow them to do damage on other mobs.
Imagine using them to kill a zombie or something, with the chance to get pokerus or poison from them as a result. :)
-Edit-
Seems like I was right after looking at the reddit where one of the devs posted: "We plan on allowing Pokémon to be able to fight vanilla mobs alongside the player, hopefully with the ability to command them to use moves on mobs. It's a system that will take a fair bit of development time though, so we haven't gotten to it yet. It's likely something we'll start on sometime within the next few updates. "
Good, needs more realism tbh.
Plus then you can add cobblemon with other mods tech, magic, etc.
Imagine using them to fight the wither, or Gaia Guardian xP
I don't care for the idea of cobblemon next to vanilla animals
LMao that'll be amazing. Crossover modpack incoming!
I've recently been thinking about an expert modpack that uses Pokemon as part of the progression tree. It seems actually possible with Cobblemon.
@@ReptillianStrikePalworld like? Xd
as someone who has worked previously on a pixelmon server, im extremely glad another mod is finally taking its place. Pixelmon was so buggy and unstable that it made doing anything with it extremely frustrating, especially on the scale of a large server that gets around 100 players during the day. Organizing tournaments where every other battle had to be restarted because of the game bugging made me want to rip my hairs out. I really hope cobblemon takes over
Also the low poly models not only look way better, but they also are sure to cause way less lag, wich was a huge issue on the server i worked at too
@@Sarah_Redfox yeah lag was my first thought plus the vanilla looking models are way cuter imo
hope not
@@MaxTheWendigo why not?
I honestly cannot wait for Cobblemon to continue updating, some Pokemon when you go to sleep in a bed will act like tamed cats and will walk into the bed and fall asleep on top of you which is especially adorable with Piplup because it just hunkers down like penguins do xD
now imagine sleeping with Snorlax on top
@@StaciaHime the best and last sleep you'll ever have
I want to sleep on a snorlax
2:55 "Only generation 1 Pokémon can spawn in your world"
Immediately shows Stantler
Yep many have pointed out that mistake, check the pinned comment.
The mod is also incredibly friendly for other modders, as you can add you own pokemon into it with just a resourcepack add-on in most cases. Most Technic modpacks with cobblemon usually do have all the pokemon already because modders were quick to add them in. Also pasture blocks are coming out soon! As well as growing berries, crafting potions, setting nicknames, and growing plenty of the medicinal items you could buy from stores in the original games!
I really love the more Minecraft-y design of Cobblemon, it makes it feel like an expansion to Minecraft and not a completely separate game! I actually made a Cobblemon video a week or so ago and I had a lot of fun looking at the designs and seeing how you can use certain Pokemon as survival tools, like Pidgey giving feather falling when on your shoulder.
Yeah pixelmon is kind of ugly lol
@@ricklavick It fits with the aesthetics of minecraft? The "smooth" textures of pixelmon are jarring and hideous, how is this hard for you to grasp?
This is the first time I have ever looked at cobblemon and as someone who's been using Pixelmon for YEARS I could not agree more, Cobblemon just looks sooo much better
I remember the early days of Pixelmon where they tried to go for this look, voxel based models instead of the higher poly models they use now... considering how many people play with shaders, I kind of wish they kept voxel models as an option... shading on higher poly models is a fair bit more intensive and can make or break the experience. I also always found the implementation of high poly models a bit jarring, it's minecraft, mobs should look like they belong in the game...
I really like this mod and what they're doing. One of the big reasons I haven't jumped back into pixlemon in years even though its very nostalgic for me is that I find the game freak round models off-putting inside of minecraft. When I've thought about what mods I'd want to make myself before, a pokemon mod with custom minecraft-like models has been one of the main ones I've considered so I'm glad other people more skilled than me are doing that.
I am very excited for the future of Cobblemon! It currently has a ton of potential.
As of right now, I'd say the two mods are pretty equal for me, but Cobblemon has a TON of potential to completely surpass Pixelmon. Just a bit more polish here and there.
Of course, that's ignoring the fact that they seemingly intentionally left in the ability for actual Minecraft mobs to spawn, which gives me a *ton* of ideas for what could be done with Cobblemon. Maybe you could be be able to fight them with your Pokémon just like you can fight the Pokémon directly, for example. Something like that would definitely make Cobblemon better for me in an instant since it would better tie the mechanics of Minecraft and Pokémon together.
Long story short: I'm excited to see where this mod goes. :)
Imagine fighting the Warden with your team. Sounds pretty fun to me
id be down, maybe even have some zombie/skeleton trainers that can either be fought normally or with the team like an actual trainer battle
This can be done with Pokecube.
That’s actually a feature they’re adding of your Pokémon being able to protect you
@@Cumbernumb That would help so much for the early game! I imagine fire and fighting types being useful for undead mobs!!
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i hope they add lots of fun ways to get legendaries like having to make your way through a volcano to awaken groudon or something it would just be way more fun than finding them in the wild like pixlemon
Yes, structures with legendaries inside is so much cooler than a legendary just spawning near you every few hours
yeah and how its random aswell@@ryanhacker5259
It's so cute that the placeholder model for summoned pokemon is the pokedoll!
I think it's the doll which appears when you use the Substitute move
@@mimycx correct
I didn't know that, the more you know!
Honourable mention: Pokecube. Similar aesthetic and available on modern versions of Minecraft, but nowhere near as quality and well thought out as this mod! Looking forward to seeing it grow into a true Minecraft Pokemon experience - it's already leagues ahead of its predecessors!
I love pokecube
2:50 "only generation 1 pokemon will spawn"
Immediately cuts to Stantler and Bergmite
One thing I hope they do is make it possible to have pokemon interact with the world a little more, eg have a bisharp chop down trees for you, or have a Wooloo/Tauros/Miltank eat grass like sheep do, or have The End Battle be against Arceus or Mewtwo or make all the legendary/mythical pokemon have special structures of somesort
not only do the pokeballs disappear they also tend go in the ground or just straight up not appear, making very fun to not be able to see if you caught the pokemon or not
I played pixelmon and cobblemon so I know how you feel I hate it so much especially when it doesn't load and it's just open and the red lines just sit there
Cobblemon is EXTREMELY lacking in content. After a year, I see basically no difference from how it was in the video to how it was when I tried it a month ago. The hot swapping of abilities (which can be used to refresh PP), lack of any sort of npcs or structures, lack of pokemon, overly simple crafting recipes for balls. It just makes it feel like missed potential. Pixelmon is far from perfect though. I don't exactly want to play that right now either.
The fact that you need additional mods for so much stuff in Cobblemon is ridiculous
You experience the whole mod in about 1 hour or 2. Its just catching and battleing wild pokemon. Pixelmon might be a bit janky, but it actually has content. My friends and I just switched back to Pixelmon.
As a friend of the devs for pixelmon, there's a ton of beef between these two, but honestly I avoid that stuff, cause personally I like cobblemon. It's charming and in the current game patch meaning I can actually go to the deepdark, only thing I'm sad about is my main team isn't in cobblemon yet but I am patient and am happy with what we get in each patch.
What's on your main team? We might get em in 1.4
You mentioned the whole thing about being able to spawn any pokemon and it'll have its stats and moves just no model.
From my understanding this is because the battle sides of pokemon in this mod use the pokemon showdown api, which means the devs dont have to put as much time into the battles, this also allows people in the community to make resource packs adding in models for pokemon pretty easily and a few people are already dedicated to adding some pokemon themselves.
If the mod makers of cobblemon are more community related than the pixelmon ones it would be nice. Upon asking the pixelmon ones stuff about their mod they can get lets say rejecting.
They are, it's open source and they want community input.
To be fair, the original Pixelmon was super community based. They had a place to submit models, which could be approved or denied.
I like this they took a bunch of elements from PLA like changing your moves on the fly chosing if you pokemon evolve and moving in battel also having your pokemon on your shoulder is a small thing that I love
Honestly I absolutely love how Cobblemon works a lot like Arceus, I love how tha thame works so much and its nice to have somethong else similar
Some of the issues you mentioned about pixelmon simply come from its age as it predates pokemon itself having some of these features.
Did you just say pixelmon predates pokemon?🤨
@@MonocleMC It predates some of the newest generations
What features, tho?
@@MonocleMC dynamax for example, raids, its really buggy but pixelmon wasnt made in mind with these
Ah okay
I hope that they will get all the pokemon in this AND eventually do Mega Evolutions/the other things. I loved Mega Evolution. Also, I can't wait to see all the servers that will be up and running for this mod.
Still waiting for the day a Pokemon game/mod will let me mega evolve, dynamax, and terastallize the same mon while using a Z move
I love the model style and animations this mod brings, but if you're able to attack pokemon yourself, hopefully they add the ability for them to retaliate! A more hardcore legends arceus experience would be pretty sweet.
@@MrTea-cz4dr I wasn't a fan of that mod, it has a similar problem with a lack of animations, and a lot of the models are ugly...
Right? Seems kinda OP you don't even need to battle to catch
4:51 Me deciding to place a Rhyperior on my shoulder
Another great video! Wasn't expecting this direction when I saw the community post, but it's still entertaining. Also, can't wait for the Cobblemon series (which was what I first thought the community post was hinting at).
I do prefer Cobblemon's general gameplay, models, and animations, but in its current state, I think I still prefer Pixelmon
My biggest problem is that Cobblemon have no sounds, so it's a bit too easy for me to forget they're actually there. Another thing that's kind of a bummer for me is that when I punch a Pokémon, they don't run away or fight back which kinda breaks my immersion
These will probably be changed in the future and I will definitely use Cobblemon when it does, but for now I'll stick with Pixelmon
I imagine it's something they're currently working on, personally I hope their sounds are not like Pixelmon, I found them to be really annoying and repetitive.
@@MonocleMC yeah I agree that it's annoying, but with cobblemon, the lack of sounds also creates another problem where I have no idea if it's a Pokémon or a creeper whenever I hear footsteps, so it makes me paranoid too 😅
@@poeissalty5807 You can play in peaceful mode, as it doesn't affect the Pokemon in your world whatsoever.
@@MonocleMC They should probably just have the voices from the games tbh
I also love the fact that making custom mons is pretty straightforward
Cobblemon has such a nice style to the pokemons, I much rather having them as blocky entities too, pixelmon feels off
They still feel super off in Cobblemon, more vanilla than Pixelmon.. but still fundamentally wrong.
We have to see more Cobblemon from you!
Another pokemon Minecraft mod that is never talked about is Pokecube, idk if it's still updated but to me it was the greatest pokemon mod, the models were much more fitted for Minecraft like Cobblemon and also the battles are in real time meaning you can do anything while your pokemon is battling and still chose their moves and yes, the wild pokemon can even attack you directly if you don't reply with a pokemon of your own or kill them yourself. I hope this mode is still alive
You created a crazy illusion by using shaders only when previewing Cobblemon and not with Pixelmon, Making it immediately look like visually your Minecraft will look much better and more interesting with Cobblemon. Nice touch
It wasn't intentional, I tried getting shaders to work in Pixelmon, but since it's not supported in Fabric or Optifine I didn't know how.
Wow, this mod has CRAZY potential. It already feels a lot better than pixelmon in a number of ways despite the unbelievable amount of features pixelmon has. Looking forward to seeing how this mod develops
So…it isn’t better. You quite literally went against your whole point.
I can't wait for the future of this mod! Being able to just straight up fight Pokemon, or have to run away if you encounter a particularly mean, high-level mon in the wild if your party is too weak, even just the immersion of shearing Wooloo and having Pokemon ride around on your shoulders, it feels so fresh!
subscribed purely because you said you'll be making a cobblemon series, it looks super promising, and i'm itching to play it lol
I think they both have their place, and the existence of one doesn't "ruin" the other. Sure, people can have their opinions on which is better or worse, but that doesn't mean there's not room for both. I love Pixelmon, and I'm very excited to try Cobblemon, and I think I could enjoy either one depending on my mood
i do think players will still play pixelmon for a long time, just because of the fact that updating cobblemon and adding all the gyms, mega evolutions, legendary structures, etc... will take an absurd amount of time. And for now pixelmon is clearly better than cobblemon because of this, in cobblemon you don't even have gyms for now xD. But yes if they add all of this, it would be clear that if pixelmon doesn't add more new things, it will be overlooked.
Yeah, I mean I play single player survival. Having trainers and gyms would go a long way, but I understand they have much more pressing features to add, just hope they don't ignore them.
Great Video, only addition i would add is how simple it is to add content yourself and how there is actually quite a few community datapacks and mods that already work with it despite Cobblemon beeing so new! :)
And then it was never heard from again…
You had me at series: XD I'm actually super interested now.
Wow, I am actually thinking about playing cobblemon! I am not a forge guy, and I really like my fabric mods so this seems like a thing I could try. Can't wait to see the playthrough!
It's available for fabric too
They said it seems like something they could try, I think they're aware it's for fabric as well.
Ironically, extremely old versions of pixelmon (2.3 or so) had squarer, more Minecraft-looking models. As the versions went on, they smoothened all of them out.
Yeah! That's the one I knew, and seeing the models so smooth now... it creeped me out.
I actually quite like the smoother, higher res models. I know it's supposed to be Minecraft, but the blockier versions just look... Weirder to me, somehow. Maybe this is because I grew up with Pixelmon, so whenever a pokemon got an updated design it looked really cool to me lol.
Extremely unlikely, but I do hope they maybe implement an option to switch between high res and blockier models when they run out of things to add to the mod and/or don't get sued by Nintendo haha
The main issue I had with pixelmon is it feels like your either playing pokemon or minecraft, not a mix between the two. It doesn't do much to combine the two different kinds of games which kinda just makes a worse pokemon experience.
I want them to make it so that your pokemon out of the pokeball can attack monsters and help you in the game in general
I think that be a cool addition to them and make them feel also apart of the game
Again, my biggest issue with Pixelmon was their gyms. In the Pokemon games they're to test your current abilities of growing Pokemon, but they treated them like after-game battle arenas. Every gym Pokemon was the same level as your highest level Pokemon in your group....which was absurd. It basically punished your for upping your Pokemon in levels. If they wanted to do that with the elite 4....fine. But not for the training gyms! That turned me off completely and I stopped playing. Maybe there are those that want the gyms harder....then they should atleast have that as a config option then, not mandated. Hopefully Cobblemon will learn from that when they get to making their gyms.
I also heard they're not going to have the elaborate gyms like Pixelmon but match with the villages better. I think that's a good idea. The elaborate gyms not only stood out like a sore thumb, but made it very difficult to even reach the trainers you had to battle, which was odd. I know Pokemon games are getting into doing silly stuff before you can even battle the trainers/gym leaders. If Pixelmon are trying to do something comparable, I think that's a bad idea. I don't even like that in the Pokemon game. Just battle the gym, and move on! Cobblemon definitely seem to be trying to do things smarter, and I'm all for that!
People comlain about gym leaders NOT scaling uo to your level in S/V and now, people complain about them scaling in Minecraft? bruh
@@Regigigas_YT I'd just say make it a setting, but it's locked as a scaled to level setting, with the npcs always using the moves that will likely 1-shot your mons given how the gym ais work, if it was a setting it'd be no problem as those who want more casual can have that and the people who want a challenge can have that too, but as it is, those who don't have tons of experience are kind of locked out of gyms without making multiple full teams for various typings in my experience at least
The Minecraft-æsthetic voxel models are the main selling point, but I’m glad to know there are other aspects of Cobblemon serperiority.
I remember when my friends and I first downloaded Pixelmon in 5th grade and played it on LAN servers together, then years later we played on a Pixelmon server. I thought it was cool even then, but seeing what Cobblemon is like, I must admit I agree in your assessment that it's blowing Pixelmon out of the water and will continue to do so as it's development continues.
Are we not gonna talk about the fact that TCNick3 is in the Thumbnail and Video?
personally, the lack of some of my favorite pokemon has made me discover new ones that i really like, such as galvantula and golurk
I really hope this mod will take off. It already looks amazing, and I’m super excited to try it out myself!
I've been playing pixelmon on and off since I was a child and it was new. Cobblemon feels nostalgic to me for some reason, and this fits the future vision I wanted to see when I was a kid, I really hated that the models drifted away into the garbage they are today and I'm glad this mod exists.
Me and 10 friends made an entire recreation map of Kanto on minecraft. In pallet town, we added a "line" to battle with pokemon trainers between Anything goes, 100, , 50 and level 25. An entire shopping center for TMS, Items and Ultra/Great/Poke balls (You get money by fighting wild pokemon or selling items) and lots of 1 on 1 trade stations. I was honestly really impressed and made sure to keep players inbound while allowing players to be able to teleport to cities they've been to by right clicking their respective badge and each badge also grants entry through certain parts of the map. We also added anti-cheats to the server and lots of scripts and extension add-ons. All wild pokemon set corresponding to the games in level, and % appearance rate as well as 0.1% chance of certain pokemon or certain locations opening up at night when the light sensor doesn't receive light, it opens up a path in a cave, forest, or underwater with exclusive pokemon. It was great, pretty much we were going to open up the server to the public but...
The server host who had this entire server and map didn't make a copy of it and their entire computer got corrupted and deleted. We all just quit altogether.
Cobblemon will only be superior when it lets you wear the heavy-duty boots
i might try this! pixelmon is possibly my favourite mod ever, i used to play it all the time years ago before the original was deleted
How did you set up your Cobblemon? I tried downloading a couple different packs in curseforge because I'm completely clueless when it comes to setting up mods any other way, but it feels kind of different.
Also, how did you get shaders to work with it? I don't have the option to use my OptiFine versions of minecraft alongside the mod.
could you do a series ?
I've been into playing pixelmon for a while and would love to see what else this new mod has to offer.
I most likely will do a mini series
this is amazing, i have disliked pixelmon because of how out of place the pokemon models look with the game for a long time, and the quality of the other features is amazing aswell
This looks just as out of place as Pixelmon models if you know anything about the design principles of Minecraft- exaggerating a little bit obviously but at least in Pixelmon they gave up, I can respect that... Cobblemon is trying really hard to be vanilla but is doing too many things wrong.
@@bigfoot_was_a_furry i’d rather the models TRY to look vanilla rather than see a completely out of place high-poly pokemon tbh
@@simply_a_human then play Cobblemon. I just think saying one is better than the other is subjective. Neither accurately represents the Minecraft style, one of the two actually TRIES but it fails miserably imo.
@@simply_a_human the problem I have with Cobblemon is the models end up having the exact same problem as Pixelmon... they're over detailed. It's not to the same extent of course but there's a reason that the Minecraft player model doesn't have fibers, or wolves don't have tails with multiple parts... there's a reason no vanilla mob blinks or has mixels for the eyes. It's not vanilla, it's not Minecraft. Same as Pixelmon.
@@bigfoot_was_a_furry I think it fits in decently well with new 1.18/19 mobs, and especially other mods like Create
For anybody interested for the Pokemon who currently only have substitute models I have seen servers that replace them with 2d pixel models and have given them world generation based on their typing.
This means if your favourite Pokemon isn’t included you could still get them in a less interactive 2d form for the time being till future updates.
Alot of the 3d sprites are community made so its really worth shouting out the community there and feel free to join and give them a hand. Its awesome to see their discord at work.
(Just to clarify I’m not connected with the cobblemon creators/developers just a big fan of this mod they’re making and think they deserve some praise)
The only bad thing about pixelmon is how u craft ur pokeballs but that's easily fixeable by just exploring
You can shear wooloo and mareep in reforged, as well as milk miltanks
Well this aged like spoiled milk😅
how?
At least explain how? 😅
They say that people still wonder why to this day...
Pixelmon is still a thing?
Yes
@@MonocleMC Nice
I actively avoid subscribing to channels that say that X% of the people watching aren't subscribed
I do hope that they have the ability to use the flying types to fly and have different sizes of pokemon like pixelmon, gives a feel of uniqueness
do you like hot potato and brunsås?
What?
this guy was paid to say that you cant be serious about half the stuff plus you can even pick the gen 2 starters it feels unfinnshed asf
No, I wasn't.
im running a pixelmon server and seeing this makes me happy maybe ill get more server performance in the future once this mod is caught up.
bro how have i not found ur channel earlier!!
The only scary thing about this mod is if it will live up to the customization of Pixelmon. I always enjoyed making maps with Pixelmon, and I want all the mechanics to be game-accurate so I can simulate impossible Showdown fights in them. I know it'll take a while for those features to be added, so at the moment I only see this as an aesthetic replacement. And also, the best model in the game is obviously the Arcanine!
I've never played either of these mods, but bro I had no idea Pixelmon's models were so UN-Minecraft! Yeah they're techincally good 3D models of pokemon, but they look horrible in the world of minecraft, but Cobblemon looks incredibly vanilla-friendly.
if nothing else, the voxel artstyle by default makes it the better option imo. i guess pixelmon uses ripped models from the actual games so they can add more pokemon more quickly, which makes sense but damn does it look uncanny in minecraft... these voxel pokemon are amazing!
i really hope that when you spawn a world if you enable "villages" it will generate marts and centers and towns, and if its not on "peaceful" it will generate trainers and gyms. im all good for servers disabling these options to craft their own, but playing survival singleplayer needs these options!
Notification squad!!
pixelmon is waaaay better
The moment I saw Cobbleman the moment I watched it around it's early release, I immediately knew this is going to be the superior mod overall, while I do appreciate Pixelmon for being the first and have made me happy during its gameplay, I'd have to choose Cobblemon for sticking to minecraft's style, graphics, aesthethics and quality of life, it's all great, I remembered Pixelmon used to have sound effects for ball wiggles and capture (might be misremembering) it just felt that they pushed too many features before polishing existing ones which made it felt like a rushed(if you can say that's rushed with slow updates) mod or inadequately developed mod
“This is the only way to get Pokémon from later generations as only Pokémon from gen 1 will spawn”
*sawsbuck and bergmite spawn*
its so cute to see that the place holder model for the pokemon that arent in the game yet is a substitute doll
It’d be really cool if they could add mega evolution eventually, it was my favorite mechanic and I’m sad that it isn’t around anymore in the Pokémon games
The placeholder model being a substitute doll is such a cute detail
I have wanted a pixelmon pokecube fusion for so long. Looks like we are finally getting it. Unfortunately it seems progress is extremely slow so who knows when it will be in a state worth comparing to the other mods. Looks promising.
To me pixelmon is somebody trying to add pokemon to minecraft.
Cobblemon meanwhile feels like somebody tried to COMBINE pokemon and minecraft.
Cobblemon don’t feel like stat blocks with a model, they feel like actual mobs that you can interact with. I also find it a lot more convenient.