British museums can't be British as most artefacts were stolen from abroad,says Aliyyah Gbadamosi1/6
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Aliyyah Gbadamosi, University College, speaks in proposition of the motion that This House Believes British Museums Are Not Very British.
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Other Islamic colonists simply destroyed many artefacts and monuments that insulted their religion, British colonists instead appreciated and safeguarded them
Wrong you cut the koh i noor diamond to please your elites therefore you cut the stone in half for your complete entitlement so no you don’t deserve what you don’t respect and the koh i noor is cursed which is why your monarchy is falling apart karma
@@keeya_ks cursed? watch out for the tokoloshi monster 😂
@@marcognudi664 didn’t you cut the diamond To half it’s size
@@keeya_ks Yes I cut it myself
They're not the only things we should return.
Perhaps, you would like to enjoy being offered the opportunity to expand that endless thought.
😂😂😂
Oh, cry me a river. Would "most" of those artefacts still be in existence had they not been moved to British museums?
Imagine a world where these civilizations weren’t colonized and left to thrive on their own..YES, these artifacts would still be there plus many, many more. But unfortunately we’ll never know..
@@robertmccarther5230 And of course these civilizations never-ever colonized, plundered and enslaved others, and developed their own system of ethics against colonization, unlike the only civilization that never did, the Big Bad West.
And cry me another, Karen, because the people who originally had these artifacts as spiritual, religious, political, artistic pieces beholden to them didn't care for them a million orders of magnitude more than the so-called 'saviourists of precious artefacts,' that are artefacts themselves ONLY by virtue of being held in high esteem by those they stole from. Give me a fucking break. Nkt.
But maybe... just maybe.... those nations wouldn't have been able to thrive on thier own. Y'know, with all the local tribes and chiefs declaring and enslaving each other, along with human, child and blood sacrifices and the occasional kidnap and mass rape of women from said rival chiefs and kingdoms. To the best of my knowledge, the UK, well, didn't do ANY of that at all. It's almost like (as some have been saying for literally decades at this point) some cultures are better than others... but I guarantee you probably don't agree with that do you?. Oh well. Enjoy the rest of your day.
@@VincenzoInfi I've actually just screenshoted this diatribe and posted it on my WhatsApp status for people to see the nonsense present in the world.😭😭 BECAUSE WHAT DID I JUST READ ???😭😂😂😂 You walk around everydyay thinking stuff like this when THE BARBARIC ROMAN EMPIRE was in Europe? ADOLF FUCKING HITLER was IN EUROPE😂😂😂😂😂😂 Bennito Mussolini, The long history of the covert heinous atrocities of the Catholic church???? Monarchs having people's head's for any reason they deemed appropriate just by virtue of them being a monarch. The French Revolution that started out as such an iconic display of democratic thirst and civilian power until it degenerated (rather unsurprisingly) into a blood bath so red and extensive that a British newspaper remarked "are these really the rights of man?" When BOTH of WORLD WARS WERE STARTED BY EUROPEAN CONFLICTS??? 😂 Are you THIS out of touch with reality??😂 Who, left unchecked does History signal to have the highest potential to obliterate themselves if not YOU???😂😂😂😂The jokes REALLY write themselves.😭
If this is really the proposition, then the whi6le faculty at Oxford should be fired.
Excellent speech!
I don't think undergraduates should participate in debates. This one is a bit cringe and really makes you question the admission standards of Oxford. Dunning-Kruger?
These idiots can just get .... Many of the artefacts in the BM wouldn't even exist now if not brought home by enthusiasts.
You are talking about 'many of them',well what about the rest of them?
Also just because you can better take care of your neibhour's car,you don't steal it or take it to preserve it.
The premise of the question is blatant tosh. Should the seeds in Svalbard be returned to their originating countries too? It is the same madness that calls the favourite national food of Chicken Tika Massala cultural appropriation. Of course there are individual cases for permanent loans but not this nonsense.
Brilliant!!
In other words, nothing should be British. Briiain is the country which first made most ancient and natural material available to the world. That is British.
Anyone who’s not British wearing a Suit matching coat trousers & waistcoat is cultural appropriation everyone should get there own style of fashion & clothing 👍🇬🇧
So that you can b**ch about black people not integrating the same way you b**Ch about Aisha and Latika not integrating in your culture just because of their modest clothes and hijab?
You people really need to pick a tongue because you are always after certain demographics. Just say you don't like certain demographics and keep it moving.
How can poor or middle class people learn and experience history and culture of it isn’t allowed for them to be seen?
British museum cant be a museum because the artifacts arent british
As an African im flabbergasted. The museum is in Britain thats why its called the British museum duh 🙄 and its run by brits i dont know why people are this daft
Her main point is that the artifacts were forcibly stolen from other ppl without their consent, & the British & Western world make a lot of money & wealth through these items to flourish their countries; while Africans are labelled as poor & inferior, & they don't make any money out of their own property. This is abuse of power. If Britain & the Western world can't use their power wisely, then they are like babies who are not qualified or worthy to have such powers. Use your power to empower others in order to empower the collective, not the other way round, by stealing from them.
If you spun this around and questioned how British the speaker is, and indeed if she too should be returned. I bet the answer would be quite different.
She is human not some artefact that belongs to a country
Let's tack a little fact on the end of the conversation about Benin. The British outlawed slavery and human sacrifice in Benin, so trying to demonise the British and elevating Benin falls flat when attempting to make any kind of moral argument.
The argument against the British Museum is incredibly banal, 'Things in the British Museum aren't British'. She is objectively a dumb and her entire argument can be summed up as 'Britain is bad, and their institutions should serve as an act of self-flagellation and guilt'. This is also why she included the completely irrelevant fact about the Benin victory leaving only 2 survivors.
The British Museum is British not because of the items it holds but because it is an educational institution that safeguards and studied these artefacts rather than selling them and destroying them. Many MANY of the artefacts stored in the British Museum were seen as literal trash and others were bought.
There is a reason King Tut's tomb is considered amazing - it is because it wasn't pillaged by Egyptian people.
What a silly proposition.
Fact, the musuem is in Britain therefore it is British. An art gallery is not defined by the origin of the contents, nor is a library, so neither is a museum.
Secondly, this is going to irk a lot of people but it is what it is. The "ELITES" that ran the country during the colonial period did in fact either secure those assets while they control those regions or they were gifted them in some way.
Thirdly, stop with this continued effort to dismantle everything from our past based on whether it was done with victims or not. I can assure you these artefacts in the meseum did not originate through virtuous or innocent means.
RIP Oxford
To steel was an art from d past by each nation with d help of colonolism,rasacism for saving emporism, dignity n originity. I also came to know about ghana's importance to enrich British Museum...thanks a lot for sharing....
Today’s British is British 🇬🇧 when we call them a looted items in their own land they are the one who says fair enough. Now time come in such a way that and they changed and realise such a way that there best educated students wanted to tell them looted. What you called this level of achievement in term of human civilisation? Can we be like that ? If not what is point of taking this good from the people of this levels now and we who can’t even imagine to discuss this level. Therefore if we are all truely educated and if we know what that mean then British not yesterday but today made true victory in term of peace and peace prices writing better history from their poor history. I of have enough knowledge and levels of understanding to understand this , this state of national practice is not normal and not after any Indian 🇮🇳 legends kingdom history we know and not and never till today British has shown. Now if know there is two similar items I think the way it is the museum deserves one to be there. That’s what I thinks.. if good gives good back good should be respected in good way and that how the good way is..
As a Carribbean person i find it hard to relate
They didn't raid my islands
Well they did before my people were there
But my beef is slavery
Like my people are under served and dying off quick
Why was the only voice not heard ours
Can you get a Carribbean speaker to bring up our issues
There was a Caribbean student speaker… they spoke second.
What about the talismans from the Jackie Chan childrens TV show?
Should they be given back or kept?
So confused!
British Museum is British and kept the artefacts otherwise there were no trace of them by now. THEY KEPT THEM SAFE, is that so hard to understand???
Give me all your valuables. I'll keep them safe.
you should go with them
The best you can say about the British Museums are that they are in essence the booty of pirate ships.
Maybe there’s a secret pack to protect them you never know!
Keep the names and acquisition the same otherwise you lose history as it happened not as how you grammarly'd your argument.
History museums.
Question? No thank you 😂
Silly woman with no understanding of history or context. She will be forgotten whilst the excellent British Museum will remain as it is.
I think that none of the artifacts should have been saved thus useless debates like this one would not exist .
Thank you 💐💐💐🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Britain stole a lot of stuff from other countries, and they're proud of it. They should give it all back, plus a lot of money as compensation. The royal family should be held responsible.
You are low info.
Give some examples
@@jakesabean Look it up!
@@Anime-Face.I have, that’s why I am challenging you. Which artefact currently in the British museum was stolen?
@@jakesabean The British Museum's collection includes many artifacts acquired through various means, including donations, purchases, and excavations. However, some items are indeed subject to controversy and requests for repatriation due to their acquisition during periods of colonial rule or conflict. The museum acknowledges these contested objects and engages in ongoing discussions about their status and potential return.
I think the British did well to keep and store these artefacts, even if they were acquired under their imperialism. Had they been Arabic, Ottomon or otherwise, they would have merely destroyed them as they went about their conquest.
Was this whole debate just foreigners attacking my magnificent country? Shame on Oxford.
magnificent country?, Britain's prosperity stands on the loot from its colonies
Stop playing the victim card.
Did they lie about the "British" museum being full of stolen foreign artifacts?
What kind of person are you when you feel attacked just because the truth is being said?
Why do you care what’s in your museum your British? The past can’t be changed
Make whatever argument you like...but there is no British person saying that objects from other countries are British or part of British origination...its kind of the point that they are from other countries, educating people about other extraordinary cultures and artisanship across the globe and throughout time. Its why all these things were accumulated over time and studied.
The british museum is British because it's in britain like she said she is Nigerian but also british because she was born in Britain it really is quite simple
It’s just false that we stole the artefacts, we bought the majority of them. Blame the countries for selling them 😂
brought them? can u be more specific
@@Study-rz3cf specific about what? They used currency in exchange for the artefacts, specific enough for you?
@@jakesabean Brits purchased which artefacts?
Wrong you stole them
@@Study-rz3cfthere are thousands of examples, the Parthenon marbles is one that people cry about so I’ll use that. We paid for it, it’s ours.
Bravo!!!! The British Burglary Hub. Museum my ass.