Asking someone on a date is desperate & wrong - the meme of being "just friends"
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Wow this gets worse, and worse, and worse. This person:
1) Actively posts in personals www.reddit.com/r/r4r/comments/wse28a/28_f4m_texas_anywhere_looking_for_my_romantic/
2) Tries to ask men out AT WORK, www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/vvbxjp/what_are_the_ways_if_any_to_ask_out_this_coworker/
3) Posts about how bad it is when men who she has a pleasant conversation with ask her out OUTSIDE OF WORK www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/11bl5s7/comment/j9zgfp5/?context=3
4) When it all fails, posts in /r/foreveralone www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/11bl5s7/comment/j9zgfp5/?context=3
but to top it off. the best part.. since I moved to Texas, is my neighbor đš www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAloneDating/comments/wdiwry/28_f4m_texas_anywhere_looking_for_my_romantic/
this has to be a shitpost at this point, no way this is real. Nobody can have this complete lack self awareness... no one. but with my luck, this *ISN'T* a shitpost: she's probably my next door neighbor nowđ€Ą
Reading that had me dying
Sheâs clearly just better than all the plebs who tried approaching the goddess herself. She knows she deserves that Texan gigachad to come along to shoo away those men beneath her.
Plenty of women are like that Louis. No self-reflection, no self-awareness.
I went to take a look and the linked posts that'd reveal it's worse are being removed. No idea if that's Mods thinking it's a shitpost too, or something else?
Yeah not surprised to see the original post since been deleted.
Once again men being blamed for not being able to read mind.
"make sure she's interested romantically first before asking on a date!".... asking on a date is how we figure out if you are interested.
just ask her, whats the worst that could happen? she say no?
now they post it all over reddit and on social media and make u look like a pos
"Well, if you don't know, then I can't tell you đ" - đ€Š As dumb as "if you know, you know". đ
I think she was trying to say "our first relationship shouldn't be just about going on date", you could start off as friends and get to know each other. This is especially true if you're in a big population, we're literally once face out of thousands we see everyday, people can have their own social circles, including potential dating options. For our society 'dates' are actually moving pretty quick, people are usually going in with expectations from already established relationships (like at work) or, contradictory I know, from dating sites, which are nonetheless giving people at least a sense of some pre-vetting on who they are dealing with.
The part about this not being a 'romcom' is because just asking someone out you've only known from proximity and getting into that kind of relationship isn't very realistic for people anymore.
Just go fishing but don't dare cast a line!
Whatâs with all this âdateâ shit? Iâve lived all around the world and only in the US or in US movies have I seen this being such a big deal. No wonder women and men feel pressured. It should just be about having a good time together during a shared experience (sexual or not), everybody should probably chill or live in Europe for a bit :)
"make sure she's interested romantically first..."
That's..what they're trying to find out.
My point.
But guys, you have to understand that she doesn't feel the sparkles and the butterflies in the stomach, so he is actually wrong
Catch 22:
you don't know if she's interested, so you should ask her on a date
but you also don't know if she's interested, so you shouldn't ask her on a date.
how dare our gym bro not be a mind reader at the same time!
it's like this person is thinking all romance is a Disney princess movie...
Everything she says is totally fine and then she goes "so now I have to feel uncomfortable and avoid this person till the end of my life"... No? You don't have to. You tell them you're not interested and that's that.
She is trying to paint herself as a victim
@@maroon9273typical of the gender
Yeah it should only advance to that level of thinking if the guy is getting way to persistent and comfortable crossing boundaries you set.
That would only work if men took no for an answer, but they don't.
â@@ExiledStardust Except they didn't ask more than once according to the story. Being asked on a date once isn't harassment.
She gets asked out by people who share a common interest. The horror
Most guys would love to have this happen to them, ever
guys with common interest, just *not hot enough*
They probably aren't even asking her out on a real date, just to meet up somewhere to hang out and get to know each other a bit more, since everyone these days has schedules to keep and things to do, which keeps them from being able to spontaneously shoot the breeze with someone they just met for a few hours, more often than not
Yea but most guys would love to be asked out, like in general, even if the common interest isnt there, just the thought that someone liked you enough to aproach you and ask
â@Hyi Vittu I met 2 of my closest friends at a low end customer service job I started when I was 18. After getting to know them, I found out we had a lot in common and we've been close ever since.
Friends: "c'mon, give it a try, the worst that could happen is she says no!"
Her:
The worst for me was "ewww lolol"
@@devinanni8117 Nah, the worst is: She says "Yes", goes on a date with you, then steals your credit card number, ghosts you, and buys a bunch of stuff with it (true story).
â@@tomb3782Why am I in a bathtub with ice? Why is there a scar and stitches where my kidney should be?
@@joshwillingham4592 lol, I would love to agree with you but, I think thats an old wives tale. But, fignuts sir! Good one.
@@tomb3782 probably not in Mexico.
You can only ask a girl out AFTER you guys are married.. jeez, it's not that hard đ
I just ran into a woman a few days while at work. All the conversation was pleasant and she started mixing up her words after she brushed my thigh. Asked her out the next day. Had a wonderful date.
@@syko2164 Glad it worked out even though you ran into her.
@@JJtoob by "ran into" i mean just started talking and hitting it off on a whim. She was a customer at the time.
@@syko2164 good luck bro, hope it goes well â„
@@syko2164 She brushed your thigh? Was that deliberate or accidental?
50% of women: I hate it when men ask me out after just one nice interaction.
The other 50%: I hate it when I make a connection with men and they don't make a move.
Itâs nearly all of them, doing both. If the guy is âattractiveâ to them and they ask him out only to be ignored or rejected, they get angry. But yet they also get angry at guys that they see as âbeneath themâ (80% of men) for having the audacity to make that same move that they want the 20% of guys they desire to make the move on them but they wonât.
It's not 50% of women are one way and 50% are the other. It's all women, and it depends on how attractive the guy is.
@@pwabd2784 and how they feel at the moment. Which changes⊠almost every second? Minute? Something like that
Hot and cold and back and forth, all day every day
THIS!!!
Iâm def in the other 50% because I donât ask men out because then ⊠I look desperate or something. I just like to play it cool and if it happens great if not, I move on. I donât have time to wait around.
@@princessmarlena1359 this is very true
It's crazy to me how normal it's become culturally to reduce and shame all the avenues for dating except for online dating. Online dating is horrible. And all the responsibility, expectation and mind reading is expected from the man.
I HATE online dating. I'd rather meet people in real life
>Meet a girl at the gym
>Have pleasant conversation
>Want to see if she's romantically interested, still just fine with being friends
>Asking her if she'd like to go on a date, but just hanging out is fine too
>"Uh, no thanks."
>Right on
>She leaves and he never sees her again at the gym.
What did this man do wrong?
Honestly sounds like he did everything right to me.
According to a previous post on that subreddit, his "mistake" was that he talked to her in a location she visits regularly. The previous post said to initiate conversations in places you visit occasionally so you don't know where she works/spends time/etc. But then this post talks about how someone asked her out at the mall and that is still an issue? You just can't win with that subreddit.
@@nulano "We are Reddit users. Ultimate brainlets. You can not beat us."
Sounds like he broke rules 1 and 2.
rule 1: be attractive
rule 2: don't be unattractive
The mistake is thinking it takes a single conversation or a single mutual instance to decide to pounce on a prey
@@charlesblasini2134 - But if you try to build a friendship with her then ask her out, she'll tell you that she sees you as a friend. But you already knew that, didn't you, Snake?
Reminds me of when Ayesha Curry was upset that men stopped asking her out after she got married.
It's like what do you want? You've made a game with rules that ensure nobody wins, including yourself and then you wonder why you are miserable.
Idk what to tell them, 2+3=5, you can't love two and three while also hating five.
Poor girl! I hope she never has to go through the trauma of having anybody ask her out ever again!
Asking a women out can be done by following a few simple rules:
Be Handsome
Be Attractive
Don't Be Unattractive
Core rules of Tinder.
and six figures minimum
@@piggypiggypig1746 and 6 feet minimum
@@scrumtrellecent 6 inches minimum
@@mikerotchburns42069 6 inch minimum ?
Pfft more like 8 inches.
â@@scrumtrellecentThere are actually more men over 6 foot than men over 6 inches.
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Man just nonchalantly announced his 2024 political campaign after vehemently denying the possibility of running for office for the last 2 or 3 years.
"make sure she's interested romantically first"
Isn't that what asking for a date is? She didn't share what happened she said no. Does she have to change her gym hours because the guy reacted badly to rejection, or because she's got her own issues?
There is some unresolved trauma there that a therapist should be working with her through, I am guessing.
â@@rossmanngroup At this point I think it's worth considering in institutionalizing her because you just know at some point some poor guy will end us arrested for "sexual violence" (i.e. smiling).
I hate that b!tch because she didn't elaborate or show example how to know she's interested romantically. Probably being vague or she tells you be intuitive or some stupid pow wow shit.
@Louis Rossmann That's an nice response. I think this is Jordan Peterson's real life example. He's correct, feminists are miserable.
And a first date doesn't necessarily need to even be romantic. It is just a test run to see if there is any chemistry or interest there.
For so long men are the ones who are supposed to make the first move yet when they do they get this ridiculous behavior from someone who clearly has communication issues. Then if they don't make the first move we say they have no balls. How can they win? These men sound as though they played things just right---the burden was on her to exercise elementary etiquette and politely decline without the socially maladaptive misfit drama of ghosting/changing gym hours etc. Immaturity on stilts!
@@spotscorner6040 never give up! Life is better when you share it with someone special.
I'm in my mid thirties and have basically given up on ever finding someone. I'm genuinely nervous about even trying to ask someone out due to the madness that women have seemingly willingly convinced themselves of over the last ten-fifteen years.
Now I am relatively content with myself and all the rest of that gift, but loving and being loved is a natural desire and honestly speaking it's a rather lonely existence all told.
Seriously, look into working a foreign job, most women you'll meet aren't psychotic like American wo(is)men.
30's are a difficult time. Things get easier in your 40's. People get more direct and honest. You can put it aside for a while, but there's no need to completely give up. Keep open the possibility that life might surprise you. That's what happened to me. Single for my 30's, completely gave up on relationships. Then things changed in my 40's. I'm married now with a kid. Men have a bit of extra time on their side if they still want a kid or two.
Female: Meet women while doing hobbies you love.
Also female: Why are men asking me out just because we share a hobby?
Hell, they may not even be asking them out on dates either, but want to get together and hang out more in a situation where they have more time.
I used to tell my female friends that. I happen to like to do stuff men like, climbing, fishing, flying. I did get asked on dates and had a lot of fun and made good friends. But you are right, my female friends instead kept going to clubs looking for men and meeting jerks. If a guy in their tennis class, say, asked them out they got all skittish.
And you KNOW she'll get upset when a guy she's actually interested in isn't interested in her.
@@angelachouinard4581 you need to understand that women need to build a narrative about what they are doing. A club is a filler arc, while a colleague hobbyist asking them out is the start of some romcom. The story has to be written in advanced, and it has to follow the story or else.
it's the same women that states the hobbies they have and are looking for somebody to do hobbies with.
This reminds me of a story from Zen teachings in Japan.
Two monks are walking along a road and are about to ford a stream to the other side. There is a woman who wants to cross for but she doesn't want to get the bottom of her kimono wet as she is attending a special event. One of the monks picked her up and carried her across and set her down. The monks continued but the other monk reminded the first monk "We are not ever allowed to even touch a woman. It's in our vows and you physically carried her across the water" and kept up the tirade for mile after mile. Finally, after quietly listening, the first monk replied "I put the woman down at the river bank, you're still carrying her".
The story reminds me of today's whining women carrying everything that offends them, keeping all slights fresh in mind, around with them as everyday luggage.
Wow, I love this. Thank you
I don't know if that's the core message of the story, but honestly me bringing it up could prove the story right.
Brilliant analogy, that's what a lot of people do, both male and female carrying bullshit through their whole lives.
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I love how people just can't say no like a normal person?... it needs to be this whole thing all the time.
They want to tear someone's character and paint them as villians.
Because when women tell men no, they get angry and even violent.
Man this why I don't even try asking women out. I always feel like a creep, and women like this reinforce my fears.
Not all women are like that, don't let internet affect your real life.
Amen đ
@@JGnLAU8OAWF6 not all murders are like that.
You shouldn't feel like a creep and shouldn't give two shits what they think. Put yourself and your well being first
Well the bonus is most aren't worth your time, so usually youre saving yourself further hassle down the line.
On the plus side, after hearing her totally psycho response, looks to me like that guy just dodged a really bad bullet. Mission accomplished! Personally, I would really feel sorry for any guy who ever got seriously involved with someone like her.
True that. She sounds like a lunatic! đŹ
True story, she does not know herself well enough yet to be committing herself to another person.
As a female I'd agree with you. Guy doesn't misbehave or get obnoxious but she's so neurotic she changes her whole schedule to avoid him.
Like most women
@@AwakenedAvocado Sadly true at least for those who at the same time claim to be looking for a man.
100% guarantee that if men stopped making the approach, and never risked rejection to ask her out, you'd find this same woman in a bar, surrounded by her friends, complaining that "There aren't any real men left. Why are they all cowards?"
Edit: Typo
PROTIP: They already are there.
Feminism is a poison
Can't wait till 1 or 2 decades later and see them miserable being in their own company
@@CrudeBuster That is definitely happening to more and more men.
I listened in on my sister having that exact conversation with her friends. "It's hard getting a boyfriend, no one is approaching or asking me out or catcalling. Which is a good thing but I want someone you know?"
I didn't bother telling her to try making the first move.
If you have a crush at the office, worst thing that could happen is that your cute colleague says 'yes'.
Then, on the next week-end, you meet her at a restaurant. While dining, she laughs at all your jokes for an hour. Then, she suddenly becomes very cold, obnoxious, almost aggressive. Only to demand you why you asked for this . She, then reminds you that you forgot to say hello to her a few times, over the past years. And, NOW, she explicitly responds that she is not interested, and that she just accepted this to clarify things. Obviously on the next Monday at the office, you'd become a walking joke
Sources : My past experience.
Before i asked her out, i worked with my girlfriend, got to know her, and decided to ask her out. The woman i asked before her (also got to know her), had a boyfriend, and to this day, despite being rejected, we are still cool.
According to this woman, getting to know someone, and trying to find out if they have similar interests, is a sign of desperation. How? You literally cannot know if someone is romantically interested, _until you ask them out._
This reddit thread is exactly the type of content I started making a conscious effort to avoid for the past 5-6 months. Life is just so much better without this manufactured outrage from reading/watching mental illness in action. There's enough to be outraged about in real life so I think it's best to get rid of all unnecessary anger triggers.
I know.
I know it is bad for me. and I read it anyway.
I think a part of my interest in it, is how I've been prove wrong recently. I used to say, _"this is the internet, not real life, real people don't think or talk or behave like this."_
More of this has been leaking out into normal reality though, so a part of me is ever so curious to understand, what I will be listening to/dealing with in the coming years.
I've been trying to get off social media, and it greatly improves how life is going. Avoiding crap like this really makes all the difference
How can society go in the direction of fixing such mental malfunctions?
@@nutzeeer nuclear war? That would surely center our attention on what is real and important.
Man, you have to start laughing at that stuff, otherwise you will own the bullet with your name on it.
Once that âunwantedâ attention fades, the lament becomes louder and list of grievances grows longer đ„Ž
This guy gets it. It's only hard to get when you're young, hot and desirable. Once all that's gone they go from playing hard to get to being hard to want and miss all that "unwanted" attention they used to get now that they find themselves in a fortress of solitude with cats, antidepressants, Netflix and boxed wine and the full knowledge in hindsight that that their unrealistic standards were so grossly and unjustifiably inflated to such an unattainable degree that nobody could hope to measure up to them.
If that attention exists in the first place. Who in the right mind would want to date someone with such poor views of men and society? It would be depressing and difficult to keep someone like that happy. I imagine a lot of these posts are nothing more than miserable, incoherent, and fictitious ramblings of chronically single women who desperately want to feel desired by the opposite sex. Being rejected has made them incredibly hostile.
Asking a women out on a date is sick and perverted, and an affront to feminism, until they turn 40.
Lots of single childless millennial women in their 30s. Man are they going to be a nightmare in the decades to come.
@@RichSmithson They're like:
"I refuse to shave, brush my hair, or take care of my body and outward appearance. No matter how badly I abuse my body with food, piercings and tattoos, I am sexy. Anyone who disagrees with me is a bigot. I don't want to work hard, but will still demand huge salaries. I refuse to take responsibility for anything I do and am allowed to revoke acceptance retroactively any time I feel regret. Lastly, anything that goes wrong in the world is the fault of men!
âŠnow why hasn't prince charming swept me off of my hooves already? Must be misogyny!
I did a social experiment once, tallied the number of people who responded to a simple greeting while I was walking home from work. After recording the results for several hundred of these interactions, I calculated that men were likely to respond approximately 50% of the time with a similar greeting. Women responded less than 10% of the time. It just seems to be like that these days.
I did the same experiment 20 years ago. Numbers were even more spread out!
"I'm gonna go somewhere to hangout and flirt"
"Why are guys hitting on me, I'm not a sexual object"
Her assumption is very stupid and paranoia
There's a reason men are checking out of dating and marriage completely or going overseas to find a wife.
I went to the Philippines to find my wife. We've been happily married for 7 years and we have a daughter. I don't regret having shunned western women entirely one bit.
@@absolutelypitiful3837 One of my old coworkers was a woman from the Philippines someone had married and brought back and she was one of the nicest people there. she caused zero problems and got work done
@Neil Stewart I'm Canadian. No 90 days fiance visa because it only exists in the US. But yes I sponsored her into Canada. She's lived here for more than five years and since I live in Quebec, she successfully learned French.
Our marriage is truly going great and we get along famously.
@@absolutelypitiful3837 good for you, all my friends who marry overseas usually gets cheated on or divorced once they have papers to stay.
the ones that do stay, stay because of money
@@mikeymaiku that's one of the dangers, their are foreign women that marry just for the green card
Can say for sure. Staying away from such subreddits has been a blessing for positivity. Donât like seeing pointless conversations when they are so one sided. Thanks for the pov and video Luis.
The flip side of the coin is to ask why men face constant hostility from women. I almost never get far enough a date is remotely relevant and she's already hostile. It's soul crushing to not even be treated like a human being by strangers and colleagues that treat you as pathological just for your gender.
It's the law of the land for a reason. You must devalue yourself so that someone of finer clay can rule you or extract from you. Women lose the most as they become more dependent on other people.
I'm pretty sure because a few times in their lives some men were not just legitimate assholes, but scared the everliving shit out of them and now they have trauma.
That is not my problem, and to live in fear is the same as being a slave.
@@jasonblaha8918 there is no need to fear it. When you notice it, stop, don't take it personally because you know it's not about you, and appreciate that she's going through something in that moment. Let her know that you can see her trama and that it's all right. Invite her to talk about it.
It's only a problem if you get reactive and make it a problem.
â@@Hyperwav3 Exactly. You just made your problem their problem. Trauma is not an excuse for bad behavior, but it is unfortunately a common predictor of it. Most abusers were abused themselves after all.
I was bullied quite intensely as a kid. Would that justify me being a brutish asshole to people now or being overly aggressive in non confrontational situations? No. I had to work through that and purge my mind of the bad habits I built as defense/coping mechanisms during that time. I'm not even saying it's easy, it's not. And it's something I'll have to do in some form likely for the rest of my life. But it is what it is. I can't change what was done to me in the past, but I can choose not to pass that onto anyone else in the future.
I say this because I used to be like that myself. An overly hostile and misanthropic asshole. And it made it harder for me to do anything social, so I eventually learned not to do that.
This actually reminds me, I did have a friendship with a girl who I kinda fancied that went on for years and I did confess to her how I'd felt and her words were "Why the hell didn't you say so".
Not to mention usually as a guy if you befriend a girl you find attractive, some other guy doesn't bother, skips that stage and asks her straight out...guess who ends up lonely and single? The guy who wanted to be "friends" first.
That's why I don't bother with being friends
That's why I don't bother with relationships. I think it's so incredibly stupid that women don't ask men out and men are required to do it to get anywhere. I like a woman who knows what she wants and strives for it. Sadly, not many exist. I'm not saying this is a bad thing either, this is just my point of view. It's totally fine if it's up to men to make the first move, but I think it should be the other way around. Especially considering it shows the woman is more in control of the dynamics and gives them more freedom from being pursued by hyenas. But it's whatever. *Shrug*
One reason why I stopped befriending women I find attractive
Exactly. It's on men (and women) to take rejection in their stride and not be creeps.
Beyond that though? The fact one woman personally does not enjoy being asked out does not mean other women don't and it's incredibly myopic for that person to assume she speaks for all women on the matter.
She wonât have this problem after age 35âŠsheâll be mad then for the opposite reason.
Moral of the story: Leave her alone. Make her live by her current attitude later-even when being alone doesnât advantage her. Keep that same energy.
I don't get this attitude. I'm never being bothered by anyone, and I'm not angry about it.Why would it be any different for anyone else? I absolutely would be angry if people kept bothering me with random date requests.
Why would you assume this? Are you aware that there are women out her that don't' care for male attention at all for the rest of their lives? Why 35? You think men don't age either?
@@abubakrakram6208 "I would be absolutely angry..." Yeah, sure you would. Speaks volumes about your character if you get angry for someone politely asking you out, and respecting your decline.
@@abubakrakram6208 Who said anyone is bothered? Just make sure you hold people to the same energy they put out in the past. Thatâs for everyone.
@@TheQueenIsWithin Men become MORE desirable to women after 35. Women are generally less desirable after 30.
I didnât make the biological rules. I just play by them.
âMake sure sheâs interested firstâŠâ
Thatâs what they were trying to do.!
The truth behind her comment: The guys who sparked up healthy conversations with her weren't 6 foot 4, didn't wear Designer Clothing, a Rolex, and weren't muscled and toned. Sad but true.
*This is the way*
@@realpainediaz7473 i'm 100% in favor of wearing Mandalorian helmets at all times.
Whats the color of his bugatti? đ
Sounds like she for some reason cant handle her own rejections.
Too true, sir.
This is good stuff. Not being able to handle your own rejections, that must be next level stuff.
â@@fulconandroadcone9488 next level narcissism lol
Maybe it's the constant threat of rape and violence women in our society are subject to. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, they say. But a scorned man who decides he deserves, or feels entitled to a woman's body, is a potential assailant for the rest of her life. If you knew the constant fear of rape and violence women in our society live with, maybe you would be able to empathize with why she can't comfortably face a man she's rejected.
@@firerose7936 The vast majority of sexual violence occurs in relationships and telling a man you're not interested will hurt his feelings no worse than ghosting him. What women don't realise is that men are used to getting rejected, teenagers might be attached to one dream girl but they quickly learn to cast a wide net and practice the boomhauer technique, which is why guys will ask you out on the first conversation. If you say no they can move on to the next with less time wasted.
I was not expecting this from Louis.
I kept waiting for the part where this zelda women was gonna talk about how right to repair sucks.
she probably would say that if you asked her tbh
Isn't asking someone on a date the same as checking if she's interested in him? I don't know how else people will check that without asking the person on a date, especially if it's someone you might never see again if you don't make a move right away. Maybe I'm just getting old. Back in my day, asking someone out on a date after a nice conversation was the way to check.
So get this, this happened about 12 years ago.
Man: So now I'm on the prowl to find a woman to date.
Me: Oh look I missed my bus.
Man: Let me give you a lift.
12 years later, we're still madly in love with each other and happily married.
Funny thing, I'm pretty sure someone somewhere today would find tons of things wrong with how we hit on each other.
That's very depressing that nowadays craving connection with people is being demonized in public spaces. Some women just tend to ignore that humans are herd animal and relationships aren't all about sexual activity.
Asking someone on a date is very clearly leading towards sexual activity. I think you're really projecting on this one.
@@keithklassen5320 Not every activity that you ask someone out for is sex-oriented, neither it automatically becomes "date". Some people just ask people that they find interest to have occasion to know them better or have company to talk while doing something (going hiking, taking photos of random stuff in town or just walking). When you ask someone out, you don't know yet if with time you will become just friends, couple, or after all you'll decide that you don't match vibes and you will never see each other again. The whole point of asking someone out is to know them better. There's no possibility to know if someone is good material for partner if you don't know them, and even if you won't see each other again, it's a great occasion to exchange ideas and perspectives or just spend nice time with someone.
Men get treated like this, say F it, stop talking and interacting with women then these same women get upset and wonder why guys are avoiding them.
This dialog is in her mind, she isn't saying it.
If I hadn't cut women out of my life in 2017 I'm not sure if I'd still be here. They are completely toxic and ruined my life.
totally untrue - leave us alone. The happiest demographic is single women. Single women live longer than married women for a reason.
@@clytemnestra Within 1 generation you will be in a Burqa so enjoy it while it lasts.
â@@clytemnestra đđđ
I've asked women out on dates, they said no, I said 'ok', turned around and walked away. Also, shout out to Louis for mentioning Shostakovich! Props for bringing art into the conversation!
The most recent Austin symphony orchestra concert was actually Rachmaninoff, but that makes it even better. :) You are already ahead of the pack if your company for the evening knows something good when she hears it
Then that one who got mad at me for not chasing after her... It's damned if you do and damned if you don't.
@@Blackpapalink yeah, the ol, âI respect a man confident enough to ask a girl outâ. But if they donât like you, youâre just a douchebag.
@@Blackpapalink People like that are just a waste of time. Clearly they've got some pretty major issues that you probably don't want to deal with in a relationship anyway. We've all got our baggage, but that "need to be chased" isn't just going to stop at being asked out. I'd rather be alone than have to constantly satisfy someone's debilitating need for validation.
I came to the conclusion not to befriend females (of the human species). Courteous but distant. Theyâre always on the receiving end regardless. In my experience anyway.
Using reddit as an excuse to not go to work. Valid use of reddit
No association with that graveyard of human decency is valid.
This is how I feel when I take something to the cash register at a local store and they ask me if I want to donate money to some random charities.
Now I have to shop at midnight and use the self check-out.
People should work on being honest and direct. I get asked at every checkout too. I just say, "no thanks" - without a hint of awkwardness or apology. In the end, they don't really care.
Gives off the same vibes as asking for 10yrs of experience in a 2yr old coding language. You will only get the job if you lie on the resume, or if you are a friend of the boss.
10 years,1 year what the difference really,you just copy off stack overflow anyways lol
When people no longer understand or accept the difference between the two sexes, then it stands to reason that the divisiveness will continue to grow.
This is why Iâm going to die alone. Also because Iâm undesirable, but at least somewhat because I donât want to deal with it.
*hugs you*
Just learned today that one of my highschool classmates had a crush on me. Funny because I also had one on her, but since we were both terrible at communicating that, we did not even date once. Communication is a key thing for everything else.
did you guys bomb dubai together?
Yeah, after stuff like that happened to me a few times over the years, I can't help but wonder "how many such opportunities were missed, but I'll never know?"
Then I wondered, "how many times does this happen on average to people in general?" and "what would things be like if people could just know if they'd be a good match?"
âIâm not even that attractiveâ then you should be grateful that someone noticed you. Imagine a guy asking you out after finding things in common⊠wow sheâs awful
I know, right? Way to put it out there that you have no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
I'm sure there's another Reddit post saying how shallow all guys are for just asking out the pretty girls.
find out if she's romantically interested before finding out if she's romantically interested
otherwise you're a predator and she will try to delete herself from your life
on the one hand, if she does the disappearing, the problem solves itself...
and as a bonus you avoid getting trapped in her friendzone
Something I've always found rather frustrating is how upset some of my female friends get when I accept that they don't want to date me. It usually goes something like this:
> Meet girl
> Hit it off
>Exchange snapchats or whatever
>after a few weeks catch feelings
> tell her said feelings
> she tells me she isn't interested
> i say, "okay, that's fine!"
> she begins to get upset with me for not chasing her around
Women are children. No logical thoughts.
â@@omgpickle a bit extreme, but they seem to have some issues with people who don't chase them. SOME not ALL
I don't believe the responder thought he was going to get down voted because he thought his opinion was wrong. I think that they just have a realistic understanding of the way some people have been attacked for simply speaking the realistic truth. Sad to say.
Sometimes, any sort of contradicting will get you downvotes.
Especially on subs that tend to be more of an echo chamber / safe space
@@squngy0 You can get attacked in a discussion about pancakes by saying you ALSO like waffles.
Made from the SAME ingredients, just cooked to a different shape, but it's the end of the damn world.
@@MonkeyJedi99 Dude. There's no reason to ever make a waffle. You're right, its the same ingredients. So make the damn pancake! You've got the ingredients already. If it was different ingredients, there might be a time when its better to make a waffle than end up not being able to make anything. The fact that its the same ingredients is precisely why you should always make the pancake. Nobody likes to clean a waffle iron.
@@Elrog3 Hahaha!
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But waffles hold strawberry preserves better.
@@squngy0 Yup, groupthink is a hell of a drug.
Why can't men see if women are interested in them before asking them on a date.
You talked a while, both shared interests, then they asked you if you wanted to go on a date.
They did what you asked and you still burned them on a stake.
This is one reason why men are increasingly less likely to approach a woman.
She will be, in 10 years wondering why she no longer gets any interest
There's nothing wrong with it. Different people have different tastes and approach dating differently. Don't let that discourage you.
The lady on the reddit post is just ranting and being a drama llama. I wouldn't go as far to assume she will be one of those foreveralone in 10 years types though.
@IWriteTooMuch she has all the hallmarks of a "alone in 10 years" type. She already is blaming men for not being able to read her mind and know exactly what she wants. She posted examples of how these people approached her, broached topics, then asked if she would like to continue learning about each other, since a date does not mean that you are now in a committed relationship.
People like this also tend to have higher standards yet when you ask what they bring to the table. They call you out and call you sexist.
Women act like a simple question is harassment but I've legitimately been stalked and harassed by a few women in the past, with one of them being really bad. She approached me for the first time, and we had never spoken before that. She confessed her love to me before she could even ask me what my name was. I noped out of there as fast as possible cause all the alarms were blaring. She ended up somehow figuring out my full name, social media accounts, address, and phone number. When I got home after school that day, as well as every day for a long time after that, I had 150+ unread Facebook messages, and when I blocked that account, a new one would appear, and then I started receiving text messages, too. I was a loner in school and just kept to myself, I honestly don't know how she managed to get any information about me. And I did tell her I wasn't interested and that I just wanted her to leave me alone multiple times.
By the way, this isn't a flex at all. She was a horrible person and fairly unattractive as well.
These days, "I'm happily married with kids," tends to keep the crazies away, so there's that, at least.
I think some people fail to realize that men aren't competing against a woman for her time and attention, he's competing against other men. Asking a stranger on a date is an attempt to get ahead of other men. I've been friends with women that I had romantic interest in, it can be painful especially when they want to cry about their new asshole boyfriend who beats them and cheats.
Some reasons to ask women out on a date after a short conversation:
1. You value face to face interactions more than texting or phone calls as most communication is nonverbal.
2. You want to see how she treats other people, especially people in food service.
3. You want to be able to cut your losses quickly if need be as time is valuable.
4. Being-friends-first-then-crawling-out-of-the-friendzone without being upfront with your desires and intentions as soon as appropriate is deceptive and dishonest, you're not a cuttlefish.
Louis, so many years. The same chair, the same cats, the same mindset. I love listen to you. So many years and and still love your content. Thanks for these moments.
Going to be exactly the same when he's 60
You have to run these scenarios through a translator for woman speak. What she and other women mean is they're upset the man didn't look like *insert current heartthrob*.
It depends, when you don't have experience in dating it is higher chance that the young women reject even the current "heartthrob" because they are much to shy to "dare" it.
I can see how it would be annoying to have to someone attracted to you and you not feel the same. As a man I can count on one hand the number of times I've been in that situation and it wasn't fun, wasnt the end of the world but wasn't fun. But at the same time, thats literally the only way you're going to get a date as man. You have to pursue first, its not gonna happen the other way around. Kind of frustrating on both sides I suppose. Its almost as if people are just puzzle pieces that don't fit. To quote Isaac Brock "Everyone's a building burning, with noone to put the fire out".
Asking them on a date early is the mature thing to do. The alternative is pretending to be your friend for weeks or months, then blowing their top when you donât want to date them, at least with the former, you make intentions clear very early and avoid disaster
Too many people think all of life works like Burger King's slogan ("Have it Your Way"). They want things exclusively on their terms and think anything else is a crime.
Ask her if she's on reddit or tiktok and if she says yes treat her with the same level of caution and respect you would a rod of spent nuclear fuel.
Luckily enough, most of them dye their hair, and in nature, bright colors always denote a toxic creature.
If she is on reedit and twitter you might as well detonate nuke, it'll probably be better for your mental health.
At least 90% of my generation is
Also add Snatchchat to the list. And OF but that goes without saying.
@@Dee-mm1bt Dating in the west is in fact pretty much like looking for a decent camp site in Chernobyl these days.
"Would you like to come see the Shostakovich concert"
Absolutely cultured.
By asking her out on a date he robbed her of the chance to lead him on and use him to make herself feel better about herself when she has no interest in him.
She obviously wants a guy to buy her coffee and dote over her, instead of allowing him the freedom to find someone that actually likes him.
exactly, that is why she is mad. Her circle of simps is narrowing down and she is desperate.
I've been seeing this creep in for some years, and it feeds on itself due to the echo chambers in social media. It's making people truly resentful and bitter.
The Smartphone was a Mistake.
Somebody gets it! It's a problem manifesting itself in every facet of human society.
@@EyePatchGuy88 The smart phone isn't the problem. It's social media with the whole being anonymous factor and impersonal nature of those platforms that *really* is causing the problems. People playing games, checking email, or browsing the internet is fine overall, even if a bit too distracting for them at times.
@@InfernosReaper The impersonal nature of social media is fine, it lets people be honest. The problem is downvotes silencing wrong think and mods banning anyone who criticises a community's culture. Without a counter view one side of the argument ends up becoming law and you've got one more echo chamber full of people disconnected with reality.
@@hurrdurrmurrgurr It doesn't even let them be honest, though. I don't really see where you get that from.
It encourages people to be either jerks in general because they think there's no consequence, even though they *normally* wouldn't be like that, or try to bully people into conforming to their beliefs.
I avoid reddit for the simple reason on how that person started their comment with knowing it will be down voted. It's been like that for years already.
I can make the same argument in reverse, "Don't try to develop a platonic relationship without first finding out that I want to be your friend."
she literally complained about guys doing exactly what she suggested guys should do
TwoXChromosomes is like the female version of an incel forum
not even "like", it is.
Lots of overlap with a certain cafe.
Isnât Female Dating Strategies even worse?
Fds is way worst
"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
100%
Its always fun to know how far social skills have degraded post 2020. đâŹ
most humans are socially retarded because they don't put social skills as just as important if not the most important keys to their life and pro creation, they believe it should be natural and effortless which it should be, which is precisely why it's dumbfounding. Maybe it's not as "natural" and "effortless" as humans make it out to be in their perception.
Yeah from someone who was functionally a mute for the first 20 years of my life and still kinda am. it still surprises me that otherwise completely functional and normal people sometimes have worst social skills then I do
oh this sort of thing was in full effect long before 2020.
@@alexdrockhound9497 Covid just made it a hell of a lot worse.
@@Nelsonwmj yeah I'd say things started to degrade with the introduction of feminism in the 1960s way before I was even born. Certainly accelerated with the smart phone dating app stuff though didn't it?
Someone once asked Charlie Chaplin, if he could ever just be friends with a woman? His answer: "Only after."
I think the point from womenâs perspective is that too many men assume that a woman just being friendly with them is some kind of sign of an interest in a sexual relationship. Men donât have this happen to us (unless we are gay) so we canât relate to how annoying it can be.
Yup. It's frustrating how some men expect us to be this and that. But not try to see it from our perspective. Most women don't have sex drive as high as most men. And on top of that, women have a lot to lose than men, getting into a relationship. Be it societally or biologically.
Why women behave differently to men regarding sex and dating very much is because of it.
lose what? you act as if the pill dosenât existâŠstop fuking whining and improve your atrocious grammer I can barely understand you
and its also women like you that cry and complain when men YOU WANT ignore you
I had always been under the impression that first dates were meant to gauge romantic interest in the first place!
To be fair, in that sense the proliferation of online video chat has kind of bypassed that purpose for dating.
If she'll call you every day, you don't need to make excuses to see her!
@@rabidchoco1 oh great, now you get recorded for evidence to be posted on reddit.... nooo thank you.
@@rabidchoco1Yeah, as I do with my fiancĂ©. He doesnât seem to mind though. đ
Wait until she gets older and the attention dries up ... Cat lady ...
Hey I resemble that remark.
I like cats, but at this rate they're going to inherit the world.
^Dog
@@capestreasuresPtown Bitter people have really given cat collecting a bad name, it's unfortunate.
@@TheMattTrakker Hey just giving a great home to a creature who needs me! I did the same thing to a man.
One time I said no to a date as a man, she tried to ruin my life (she was a higher up at my company), and I only managed to save it with literal video and audio recordings... LoL
typical insecure female hypocrites
Attitudes like this are the reason why people seem to lose their virginity later and later. Dating these days seems awful for many people and since the rise of Instagram expectations seem outrageously high. This person literally discribed getting to know another person as bothersome which is so concerning to me. You can complain about declining birth rates but this is even worse. Like how are you gonna find happiness or socialize like that...beyond me, I agree she might have a deep seeded issue
"Attitudes like this are the reason why people seem to lose their virginity later and later."
*uhm nope. Guys are losing their virginity later because young females spend their early years only chasing the top guys*
@@realpainediaz7473 which is exactly what she implied
That is insane. Who changes gym hours over that?
Someone that has been brainwashed into thinking that all men are out to get them.
Ok, about 30 years ago I noticed a woman at the gym (very cute) who started showing up at the gym regularly on my schedule. I'd seen her previously, but not that often. At some point I realized that she was 1) ALWAYS on the weight machine directly opposite of me, and 2) she wasn't wearing any panties under her loose shorts, when I knew that previously she always had a pair on. I was getting a regular show of her unshaved glory several times per week for an hour or more and she never said a word or even looked me in the eye. This went on for weeks, and I just considered it a perk of the gym that a pretty young woman was indulging her exhibitionist streak with me. Prior to her I'd always gotten some interaction with the women that flashed me, even if it was just a smile or an "oops," even if was completely accidental. Studiously pretending that I wasn't even there despite the whole performance being just for me was somehow a key part of it all.
Then I screwed it up and said "Hi" to her at the desk on the way out. She bolted and I never saw her again. So, the answer to your question is "insecure crazy people."
@@nolongeramused8135 "She was asking for that Hi" the post.
nah jk that's hecking nuts lol
an idiot
It's one thing if the woman says no, and the man keeps pestering her after that. But other than that there is nothing wrong with asking.
unless she finally says yes and ends up marrying the guy. this happening to one of my friend's sisters. there is of course a difference between persistence and pestering.
o yea i kinda have personal experience with this as well.
i was in a year-long relationship with a girl who initially rejected me and changed her mind after she got jealous of my friends' wife 'flirting' with me. long story short people are weird and there are not really any rules to courtship.
there are bad actors so i would encourage everybody to be cautious. but don't turn that into paranoia.
@@alexweir1373 That's the thing. Sometimes "no" means "no" and sometimes it's "I want to see if you'll follow me into hell" but it's often very difficult, if not impossible to tell which is which.
đđđ I enjoy your videos! Granted, many times I have no idea what you're talking about, but I learn something.
I just read an article the other day that 60% of US males are single and most are even uninterested in finding a partner.. and this is exactly why.
You've got your figures wrong. It's more like the inverse. Around 60% are partnered, 40% are unpartnered.
@@andoletube As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.Feb 22, 2023 - Google
@@nephalim844 See, there's your problem right there. These statistics are far from accurate. Given that straight people are still the vast majority, it doesn't make sense that among straight people, 34% of females are single, but 63% of men are single. It's similar to when they do studies that say the average number of lifetime sexual partners for women is 7, but the average number of sexual partners for men is 12. These numbers are baed around answers people like to give, not what is actually true. When marriage was common, they had objective figures from the register of births and marriages - they didn't have to ask people if they thought they were in a relationship. Now, you can have a couple, and one of them thinks it's a relationship, the other thinks they are just casual. I would take all of the figures you cited above with a huge rock of salt.
''If, despite all of this you want to ask a particular woman out, make sure she is interested romantically *first*, not just platonically''
So in other words ''read my mind to know if I'm interested in going on a date with you before asking me if I want to go on a date with you''. Because surely this is a perfectly balanced and thoughtful way to interact with people... The mere fact that such people go on to live long enough to become adults speaks to how thoroughly mankind has erased all the barriers of natural selection that would have normally prevented people from being this amazingly stupid.
The people who suggest men should make sure she is interested romantically first demonstrate zero knowledge and experience of how most people with a social circle and social skills communicate and interact with one another. And I say this as someone who is both introverted and lacks said skills.
I think it used to make sense back when cultures were very clear about how you should interact and communicate with potential mates, but now we live in a world where nothing makes sense so we have to play these stupid mind-reading games.
This isn't natural selection being erased. Its too short of a time frame for that.
Female logic,
The weird thing is these people might not even be asking the person out on a date but want to hang out in a setting where they have more time to get a better feel for the person.
Literally can't do that if the person doesn't give *some kind* of contact info and make a plan.
What ever happened to "No thanks...I'm not dating right now"? or "No...I got a boyfriend/girlfriend"?
It can be dangerous for even innocent guys ... I was on a city bus listening to podcasts on bluetooth and suddenly I notice this young woman seemingly talking to me .. I pull out an earpod and ask what's up? She starts complaining that I was staring at her ... Ha . Till you talked to me I hadn't noticed you. But she was insisting that I was creeping her somehow .. had to get loud on the bus . I told her to f off and went back to my podcasts... There isn't anything anyone can say to an accusation like that... Unless you are guilty then you could say sorry I suppose... But I didn't even see this woman till she was already angry at me.
Ah well m. It was an awkward but brief moment ... But what if her three big brothers had gotten on the bus?
If she is not interested in a date, is it really so hard to just be honest and say 'no thank you' and move on with life, why is it necessary to avoid that person again until the end of time... ultimately she will be avoiding every male in on the planet...
Wow, so you talked to someone and they want to keep talking to you, so they ask you out to dinner... How rude, he offered to buy you food in exchange for talking to him? Men should never do that. Sorry, I can't say that sarcastically enough. Can someone help me here?
Use the sArCasTiC font.
People like this online are why I have extreme anxiety about asking people out on dates and generally a lot of stuff to do with relationships.
â@@MrDarthtelos that's cap. Getting in the practice when it comes to approaching or asking random women out is invaluable. It simultaneously breeds a level of security in yourself & tempers you against rejection. There absolutely are benefits to it even as a practice, & considering this guy said he has anxiety over asking people out, getting practice with that very thing will do wonders for him long-term.
Everyone *knows* to pick themselves back up when they've fallen down, but few are able to put it into practice in the moment when it comes to mental battles.
Honestly, if they're as batshit as this chick, you're better off that they nope out up front and don't waste your time
@@MrDarthtelos I didn't say you need to, but you're telling the guy who says he has anxiety approaching women that he'll be better off just never doing it & that's straight cap my g. Your advice would fester his anxiety instead of conquering it. I could care less if he even goes out with any of the women he approached, but the act of approaching will absolutely help him with the anxiety he feels over this exact situation.
You have insecurities about your value which makes you fearful and gives you anxiety. That fear tells you stories. You hear women talk like this online and you use it to confirm your stories. Yes, some women like this exist and you will run into them. It's not a good reason to hide from your insecurities and prevent you from getting what you want from women and life. You are worthy and deserve to get what you want. If you work through your insecurity you can go after and get what you want.
This shit ain't rocket appliances. Have some self awareness of yourself. Improve yourself how you can, where you think others might find you weird/unattractive. You're likely gonna get shot down 99% of the time if you take the boomhauer approach. Get some hobbies, interests, etc. Go out and interact with people in places where both genders are running around. Be casual and genuinely interested in those you talk with, and broach the subject of dating later. Learn to find comfort in being alone. You'll value being with someone more that way. The issue I see nowadays is people care about only what they want, instead of building actual relationships. That's why you see more people like this. They're looking for the perfect one, and they don't exist, so stop trying.
Thank you for speaking on this, So true your thoughts Louis
I've been wanting to say this for a while but notice how women are saying, "why can't I find a man who's interested in me?", not even realizing that she is not even emotionally or psychologically available to anybody except herself and even that is pushing it.
They have severe mental issues or personality issues preventing them from being vulnerable with anybody let alone being available to anybody else's interest. The only people I see being creeps about this are the actual women.
Well at 37 I stopped dating 5 years ago and I've been much happier. Every aspect of my life has improved. I deny, block and ignore any women who try to be more than platonic, and let me tell you, most want more than just friendship. It's definitely not just a man thing.
I'm sure your wife is thrilled!
Jk don't take it wrong please
Yeah i hear that lol. Women are nuts, i man people in general are regardless of gender, not all of them but enough to turn me off from all the silly senseless drama that is the norm. They throw themselves at me so much it's a turn off. I've been 'sexually assaulted' (if there wasn't a double standard) more times than i can count. Half the women in this small town have either grabbed my ass or tried to lick my tonsils forcefully when nobody was looking and they all think they're the only one, i got my ass squeezed 3 times in an hour working a fancy wine tasting event. I've had women pants me in public and latch onto my D like a suckerfish , had to carefully pry jaws away a few times while people wake and drove by looking like WTF lol. Another time it happened i was with a woman, my arm around her talking to her and another girl did the same suckerfish trick. She's like WTF and by this point i'm just like "yeah, this always happens, excuse me" as i wrestled my stuff back from her and told her no. The weirdest stuff is when women give me their number in front of the guy they were just holding hands with. He looks all salty at me while she gushes over me and i just try to gtfo.
â@@mrkosmos9421 lol good one.
Men age like wine. As we get more skills, more experience, and more assets/money, we get more attractive. (And having more years of working out and exercise doesnât hurt) Meanwhile, women tend to rely on their youth and good looks and therefore age like milk.
In fact, women are most attractive the moment they hit 18- although itâs creepy for there to be a large age difference between two people who are dating. After they hit 18, itâs the roaring 20âs, but by 35, they hit the wall and itâs all downhill from there.
â@@orppranator5230 My dude, you think you're spitting facts but just....no. This is not only objectively wrong, it's toxic as hell. I hope you can see why I think so as long as you're not a schmuck about it - it ain't you, it's just outdated stereotypes.
You make sure by submitting woman acquisition form 420-69.
It's only something you can get from the basement of your local police department.
"I'm not hot, but every single guy I meet wants to go out... They should know if I'm attracted to them before they ask!" đ€Łđ Absolutely clueless.
I think the fear stems from the unpredictable ways that some men can pursue us. Iâve turned down seemingly nice men who turned persistent or hostile, even men that I had been friends with for a good length of time only to find out that they were only ever interested in me romantically. Iâm not saying that her way of going about things is correct because you miss opportunities but it gets so tiring to try to form platonic friendships. I think if more people learned how to accept rejection in a healthy way it would lead to less missteps
it is almost impossible for men and women to have platonic friendships, so stop trying. Make female friends...oh wait, was majority of women are selfish, bad friends, insufferable and sociopathic. Guess loneliness is the way for you.
nobody likes being rejected, but since society expects men to be the initiators, they'll be the ones facing it most of the time. just gotta roll with it though, like water on a duck. if you want to see something really ugly, try a hot chick, used to getting everything she points at, getting rejected. it's like a sudden flash of vile evil from clear skies, like bilbo trying to grab the ring. a sight to behold
I made a decision when i was 23 to focus on myself instead of chasing a relationship, i saw the writing on the wall. I dont regret it at all.
if i were to start looking for a partner, i will probably look overseas.
How old are you now, if you don't mind me asking?
@@eatpant1412 I am 27 currently.
your just going to be alone forever? why accept defeat?
@@truthdoesnotexist Why? Because life has a tendency to push you towards what you are in need of at that moment anyways. No matter if you like it or not.
I ended up with a partner about a year after this comment, they found me. I just kept doing positive choices for myself, making the best out of what i have. Eventually someone took notice and wanted to be a part of it. I just accepted because it felt right.
I do not know what the future holds, but i am happy my choices put me where i am.
And they wonder why red pill content is popping off. I don't even generally agree with red pill, but it's understandable why.
Once the current rooster of red-pill content creators venture beyond "babbys first redpill", they'll be banned.
(Semi-tisms and all that jazz).
Funny.
When the sexes are arguing it's "all good", because it only hurts us (cattle) but when the creators begin to talk about the "ranchers" it's ban-time.
CZcamss second or third "d-day" is about to begin.
"Where are all the good men?"
She rejected all of them in her prime years.
Thank you Rossmann good advice
All you have to do is say no. It's simple. If you don't like the look of someone don't talk to them.
I admire your persistence in rejecting the blackpill and subsequent nihilism and social decay that follows it.
The reason you're seeing it leave the internet and get closer to real-life is because that blackpilled nihilism is spreading. There are many socioeconomic factors involved in it. One of which is the lack of men who make more than women since women are the majority of people in higher education now and are constitutionally hypergamous so tend to reach above and beyond their level and they're not finding many men to try to marry up to. Hypergamy floats so as their status increases so does the level of man they find acceptable.
Men are seeing that wages are flat for the last half century and prices of everything are up so rather than kill themselves chasing the already ate carrot at the end of a stick they're just maintaining a minimal level of living to get by which is possible if you pool resources with others on housing expenses.
So you have a huge divergence there. Imagine a basketball hoop 100 meters in the air. Most people wouldn't even bother throwing the ball.
I'll reject the nihilistic blackpill until the day I die. Life is unfair, and there's tons of tragedy, misery, heartache everywhere... but I'd rather be dead than live life as a miserable hopeless fk. I will fail, make a fool of myself, and make mistakes again and again and again. I will have governors gut bills I worked on for 7 years, eugenes who rip me off for $30k, companies that implode, relationships that fail, women who reject me, jobs I get fired from, but no permanent blackpill.
I think one of the reasons I loved the story of Final Fantasy 9 so much as a kid, was the entire game being this overarching story of rejecting hopeless nihilism.
half edit: right as I typed that, someone crashed their car into a parked car right outside my store. Maybe that's a sign...
â@@rossmanngroup Was FF9 about that? Should probably finish disc 3 and 4...Best world in a game ever.
@@rossmanngroup You go girl LOL
Blackpill is a dead end. It only locks you in the arms of blackpill grifters who feed on your frustrations and angers. If you think women are what you read on Reddit or watch on TikTok, you are deluding yourself. You donât need a blackpill, you need to toughen your fragile ego and become a âreal manâ
Today women ask why men arenât approaching them! Women want it both ways! Itâs nonsense! Delusional!
This is why why cant have nice things... Social media gave massive audiences to so many random idiots. Thousands and thousands of random idiots who's collective influence on our society is somewhere between unhelpful and overwhelmingly negative. So, yeah... I don't see how this is gonna end well...
So glad to hear such rationality on this topic.
We got a future cat lady on our hands here, guys.