The GOD of all WALL CHASERS! | Thomas Nagy
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- The tool I've always wanted but I never had the opportunity. Well, I must say, It has most certainty EXCEEDED my expectations.
Although it does have a hefty price tag, it is a BRILLIANT tool for what it does so stick around for the entirety of the video to find out why!
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▶️ Timecodes ◀️
🔵 0:00 - Intro
🔴 0:33 - What comes with the order?
🔵 2:28 - Inserting a rubbish bag into the hoover?
🔴 3:12 - A key feature that stands out for me!
🔵 3:38 - The hoover has some really nice features!
🔴 3:58 - Looking closer at the triple disc blade
🔵 4:22 - Small little detail that I did NOT like!
🔴 4:42 - Taking a closer look at the wall chaser features!
🔵 5:14 - THE SETUP
🔴 5:42 - Health & Safety FIRST
🔵 6:01 - The wall chaser in use
🔴 6:11 - It is a HEAVY BEAST
🔵 6:22 - AMAZED BY HOW GOOD IT TRUELY IS!
🔴 7:52 - A Hidden feature of the METABO wall chaser!
🔵 9:12 - IT IS A LOT BETTER THAN I INITIALLY THOUGHT
🔴 10:08 - How much dust does the METABO hoover collect?
🔵 11:31 - It's a good tool on so many different levels!
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▶️ WARNING ◀️
This video is for entertainment purposes only. If you use the information from this video for your own projects then you assume complete responsibility for the results.
I want this tool although I don't have any walls that need chasing.
Build a wall in your back garden then run chases through it until it falls down
Or find an abandoned building and just go at it to your heart's content ☺
The lack of dust has to be the main thing in my mind. All the dust just gets everywere
There is an impressive lack of dust in that room.
@@tlangdon12 and the rest of the house. 👍
Ive got one , there is a little dust
@@Calippo11 A little I can live with Not seeing the other side of the room I cant. But thanks for letting me know. 👍
Was very impressed with the auto filter cleaner. That is going the extra mile that the unit will vibrate its filters clean so your suction doesn't drop off as the bag fills up. Great stuff.
Most industrial vacums have that feature
If you’ve never seen a self cleaning filter it must seem like magic to you…
@@WestSideConnection5 no, this system is quite different. It uses electro magnets to shake the dust out. Most other industrial vacuums use blows of airflow. Which impacts temporarily the suction.
@@williamwallace410 never seen an industrial vac that doesn't vibrate the filter.
Best tool I own by far
I was about to comment that you swear by yours on your rewire videos. 👍🏻
Nagy is late to the party 😅
Will the matabo triple blade system fit the dewalt chaser ? Anyone try it?
You’ve had your matabo for a while now nick?
@@bertiebassett1972 I think mark allison (on CZcams) tried/uses the triple blade in another chaser.
How often do you replace the triple blade nick?
Im an electrician and at my job we use the hilti wall chaser with dual blades, what i've noticed with other brands is that you will have to let the machine work and can't put too much pressure on it. The hilti chaser eats up everything at very high speeds.
Bought these two years back Tom and never looked back. Increases productivity by 500%. It is by fare the best machine we have ever bought and with the xxx guarantee it's bulletproof. If you are a " Registered Electrical Contractor" And take on a lot of rewires you need to buy this machine. We suggest the 240 V version as it has in 1900 W motor and better for pushing the three blades. The 110 V version is only 1700 W. However you may need this if working on construction sites. The vac is by fare the best on the market in every aspect, self cleaning, power take off, hepa, just amazing. Well done Metabo
It’s a game changer, I used it to cut the boxes in too. As you’ve said in the video, you get a nice consistency in depth and making good afterwards is a doddle. I like the varied content of your vlog 👍🏻
I borrowed one of these recently and was seriously impressed, even with empty rooms, sheeting up doorways etc the dust from a grinder is always horrendous.
Impressive bit of kit - a great addition Tom, and thanks for your feedback
It's a good and fair point about the aesthetics too. It certainly gives the customer a feelgood factor of the quality of work being done. Something that gets overlooked too often.
In order to help with the strains on the arms you can start at the top of the chase and go down using the machines weight. Depending on who high you go you might need to do the top part still pushing up but is should certainly help. Such a machine with an M rated Hoover is a must I you do a lot of chasing. Often you can rent such a tool aswell for specific jobs.
Couldn't do without mine. Have probably done about 15 full rewires so far and only just replaced the triple blade, not because it was worn out but because a couple of the segments came off. I cut in all of my boxes with it, even singles. The making good afterwards is easy and well worth doing. All of my boxes are perfectly flat with solid fixings so an hour of making good on a full rewire is more than made up for.
The dust extractor has performed fantastic, never needed to replace the filters, I just give them a good bang out occasionally and it is good to go.
The filter banging thing and the bag is a relatively new regulation for construction site vacuums to reduce dust exposure , Festool vacuums do it as well, they're called "M Class" vacuums.
It’s a monster , absolutely brilliant piece of kit
This video made my day. Useless to say how happy I was to see you're using the same tool I have for chasing. Indeed , this Metabo is a proper wall sucker :))
You'll find it very useful on commercial jobs Tom. That thing will eat concrete breeze blocks like a knife through butter!
Metabo is popular in Australia and New Zealand but less so here, personally I'm a Makita fan.
The best chaser I've ever used was about 30yrs old, it had a massive blade, it made a 25mm wide groove completely removing all the brickwork leaving a nice clean channel and it would cut as fast as a single pass with a 115mm grinder, absolutely amazing, can't seem to find another anywhere now though!
Great to see you have caught up to Nick
It’s a wicked machine. Worth every cent
With that amount of dust extraction, I'd personally look to be wearing something like one of those basic 3m ffp2 masks instead of the whole external filter job. Less bulky and easier to put on, but plenty for the amount of dust it puts out.
Plus that dust extractor might well end the whole "sparks don't clean up" sterelotype when you're on site with the other trades 😉
An impressive tool, expensive but well worth it. Why weren’t they available when I was on the tools? Some more demonstrations of the latest power tools would be much appreciated
Nice piece of kit. Amazed at how little dust there is.
the flexi conduit king has been using the metabo for a few years, great bit of kit. great vid (Y)
Can definitely see the appeal - I did the chasing in our 1930's renovation and the bricks are just untrue. One of the neighbours actually stopped by and asked how we were enjoying the bricks - just rock solid.
Took an absolute age and created an insane amount of dust - that thing has to be a no brainer for somebody doing a lot of that work
I did a lot of rewires back in the day and as you say the bricks were unbelievably hard - I would have loved such a machine
Had one of these for about 12 months now. Can imagine and wouldn’t want to go without it now, that’s for sure!! Happy chasing
Does the chaser everstruggle on hard walls.
Do you have the three blades
dust extractor vacuums are a must have for every contractor yes there pricey to buy and can be quite expensive to run but you look professional and they save time cleaning up and best of all because less dust its better for everybody. i have a dust cyclone as well which cuts down on replacements bags well worth investing in if your doing lots of work and filling up bags quickly. i personally recondmend the numatic dust extractors as parts and bags are readly avalible at a resnable price. i wanted a 10m hose and i got one from my local vacuum cleaner shop for £28. i did have a festool machine and the replacement 3.5m hose was £80 which i though was excessive.
and that is pretty damn good. We're going to be needing something like this before too long for our house. Awesome.
Bloody good bit of kit 🤘😎🤘
Glad to see someone actually say it’s a beast to handle. Especially if you have to use it all day on a total rewire.
Great video Tom. I have had this wall chaser and dust extractor for about a year now, and have used in lived-in property's, absolutely different level of wall chaser, it's so clean and quick compared to 2 disc and sds. A must have for anyone who carries out alot of chasing.
How does it handle brick walls ?
That is awesome...a really nice result!
Watched quite a few videos by many well known CZcamsr electricians but yours is the best mate. You showed everything including that bag which is a bit of a head scratcher as it’s open ended.
Had one of these for a couple of years now, buy the fleece bags! Expensive but I promise you won’t regret it.
Greetings from Ireland! Thanks a million for sharing your knowledge and going to the bother of making a great video. Tom
Looks like a great piece of kit
That chaser is the BEST I’ve ever seen
Nice combo, you’ll find it easier with the optional handle, you can wrap the cord and hose around it.
I am using the cheapest saw with 4 blades- working fine for 30cm with Standard vacuum.
Upgraded to very expensive vacuum with automatic filter cleaning: works like in your Video.
I always go from the top down.
Excellent tool. Impressive power and clean cut. Amazing purchase.
Couldn't agree more!
Nic Bundy showed us this kit about a year ago.
Yep remember the vid more like two years I think 🤔
Great bit of kit 👍 I don't do much chasing these days, but I would buy one if I did. The dust extraction alone is worth the price.
I've got twin blade atlas copco, needs two people (one on hoover!) Found it easier to chase from the top down, not bottom up. Less resistance on blades...
I see the Metabo is designed to be pushed, shame you can't flick a switch and use it in pull mode.
@@nw5835 yes, using gravity to help would be so much better than trying to go against it.
Just turn it upside down
My erbauer one works by pulling it down. Better that way I think as the weight of the chaser does most of the work. Backed up by my trusty old Henry… greedy bastard!
Take it from another electrician.
You're arm's wil thank you if you juse gravity instead of fighting it. Just keep it on the wall. And hold it straight. Wait of the machine wil do de rest.
‘It arrived in the mail… ‘ did it fit through the letter box 😂😂 .
Nice review , definitely worth it if you doing domestic rewire day in day out.
Looks amazing. Get a cyclone attachment for that and you'll hardly need to replace the filters or bags in the main unit.
Genius! nice one
A primative 'track saw' arrangement with an 'anti kick-back' lock would not only steer the chaser but would take the strain out of it even if not reducing the effort. Think wardrobe rail with a flexing runner that only goes forward.
I would love a tracked wall chaser with plunge function. That would remove the insane cloud of dust when first putting the blades into the wall.
Have you ever seen it?
Not only is it very nice to no longer have to do about twenty minutes of cleaning the room after wall chasing (and still not get it all since it is floating around for some time) but also if the customer pops in after you have left they will appreciate how clean the room is. Can’t put a price on that.
At the end of the video when Tom was saying his goodbyes and tapping the blades with his hand 🤚 I thought we where going to see how good the 3 blades where at chopping fingers off 🤦♂️
I did the same thing first time using it. All the ppe, mask, goggles, ear defenders etc....didn't make a spec of dust. Customer looked at me like I'm a paranoid idiot....that hoover soon weighs a tonne if you don't clean it out or swap bags though.
Yeah for just that last cut he made you'd have the equivalent of 4 solid bricks weighing down the bag.
Triple blade great idea. Avoiding the chisel / sds a bonus in old houses with loose plaster!
The last time I was this early Tom had a proper moustache.
9:05 full face shield with a hood is an epic addition to doing that sort of close to face grinding work, when you’re in full ppe for long periods of time comfort starts to really come into it, safety glass with a full respirator and ear muffs just becomes irritating 😠
I have the very same kit. Top tip is to turn the chaser upside down and let the weight of the machine push down along the wall. It makes it 10 times easier and id also just empty and reuse the bags to keep cost down.
Great presentation!
Bought the Metabo chaser with a triple blade for some pipework to sink into the wall. Used a Henry tho and he wasn't fully up to the job was a lot better than not using a hoover but you do need the M class extractor.
Greatest chases ever, invested about a year ago and the best thing I have ever done
Totally agree with you on that one mate!
Betty Crocker must spend a fortune with you
Can’t beat Class M dust extraction for this sort of work. Still on the old Metabo chaser and Festool CTM 26 but the 4o is the dogs danglies!
I can't believe you have only just started using a wall chaser, I bought an Eabauer one from screwfix for £99, and use it with a Bosch class M dust extractor with auto filter cleaner , the wall chaser works very well, considering the price, personally, the price of the well known brands doesn't warrent it, mine has a double wheel, with a flat chisel to break out the middle, breaks off easily, connected to the dust extractor, no dust at all.
I have the metabo twin twisted slot set up on my erbauer, but otherwise same set up.
Great kit saves a lot of mess 👍👀👀⚡️🥶
quick tip to make using the set-up easier. . . wrap different colour tape around one of the flexes. Makes it easier to tell them apart when your trying to move what you think is the chaser flex around, and it's actually the hoover flex.
Something Metabo could do to improve the design would be to use a different colour flex so users can tell them apart at a glance.
? you connect chaser flex to the hoover so its only one to unplugged from the wall socket.
That filter cleaning is a requirement for the "M" rating the machine has. M stands for medium-hazardous-dust, like you get from cutting wood or walls (the "high" rating would be for mould and other ugly stuff), It should also notify you when the pipe is clogged, usually by some annoying beeping. I got the Bosh hoover and I also really like it but I haven't yet decided which wall chaser to buy, house rewiring is going to start soon :D
That’s no an M class set up at all
@@dominicmackrill5953 if not, why does the vacuum than have the big "M" Sticker on its side?
The filter cleaning is definitely NOT an M class requirement. There are plenty of M vacs without it
I can dig it, hired one a few days ago to do chases in a bedroom renovation, they are heavy bastards.
From Perth, WA, Australia.
Lovely machine 👌
Excellent video. Thank you very much. Really enjoyed it 👍👍👍
I’ve hummed and ahhhed about getting a Metabo for a while now ,after the last occupied rewire and coughing like a consumptive for days despite full filter mask/vacuum and having to spend a day cleaning up it has to be the way forward .I think at the moment demand is outstripping supply.
I'm not an electrician but am tempted to get one of these as a plaything. Not sure my neighbours would appreciate it though.
I switched from open plastic bag to closed use-once-and-throw-out white bags: yes more expensive but a lot less wear in the inside of the vacuum and so much easier on site to clean out and not accidentally spill everything you just sucked up. For the price you already spend on the equipment it's worth it :-)
I’ve got it 6 months ago I won big extension so just went for it. Was lived in extension so didn’t want mess and been watching Nick Buddy videos on it and made me buy it 😂😂
I get the feeling that you like it. 😃
I’ve invented this device every time I’ve ever done any chasing, mostly because the dust drives my wife completely mad, and no matter how much I try and seal the room I’m working in, the dust always ends up all,over the house. It as a DIYer with a full time career I’ve never had the inclination or motivation to spend the time prototyping and no doubt finding the tech of the day not,up to the job. Why it’s taken until now for the big manufactures to get around to creating the device I can only speculate, I mean it’s hard;y rocket science
Love this channel.
Welcome to the club Tom. We got ours earlier on this year and what A absolute weapon. Just make sure you are all over the ppe
Keep up the great content 👍
Thanks pal! and will do !
His boxes sit beautifully
Catching up with the Kopex King! 🤣🤣
I have had a wall chaser for years, and found the only people that were impressed were plasterers. However that chaser has now expired so I will be trying one of these next.
This video is great. For anxiety..
Honestly for what you're getting I don't think it's a bad price. Definitely will pay for itself with the time you save
Fantastic bit of kit. Just thinking out loud though...... if you started at the top and let gravity aid the motion would that not be easier on the arms?!
I don't do enough rewires to warrant such a purchase Tom. However, after using a grinder (cringe I know) and looking like I've been tangoed I may very well consider this. Keep up the excellent content!
Multi tool with masonry blade & then sds after is a less messy alternative if only have a few chases to do. Takes a little longer though ofc
He back :)
i've been using metabo and makita wall chasers and vacuum's for years they are great (I do a lot of rewires) not tried the triple blade yet as they seem pricey. I know dewalt do a cordless wall chaser hoping that makita make one soon. I still use an angle grinder to wizz out the boxes (if the house is empty) but as you said it creates a lot of dust
I use the hoover as a carpenter. Have it about 3 years and have given it hell. I have never used the bag, i just empty it into a standard black bag.
Metabo are now the world leader in power tools. Their 18v battery powered range is years ahead of any of the leading brands. My nephew is one of their managers in Australia, I’ll send him this video.
Another great video Tom 👍🏼👍🏼
Cracking video!
Hmm, your nephew, could you be a little biased in your opinion … 😉
Haha they don't lead the world in any categories
They're actually one of the worst, sorry to break the news to you. The hoover and disks are good in this video, that is the truth, the rest is trash...
I had this tool to chase out my house. It was incredible and re-sold with very little loss. Blades last forever and extraction is extremely good. Bag does start to get holes in quite quickly where you clamp it and instructions were poor but very self explanatory.
When you do a chase double width you do get a little more dust but marginal in comparison.
I cut out boxed with it too. Once you work out where the blade sits relative to the runners it's easy to do a few lines to run lines and do a box no issue.
Ok; why doesn't the UK just use round boxes like we do in NL? We just use hollow core drill 82mm with 100% dust extraction and done.
Unreal!
Thanks for this
That looks like a good bit of kit.
Impressive to get such neat chase lines & no dust. But those sharp edged joins between old & new plaster reduce the area of bonding & increase the likelihood of shrinkage cracks.
I've been thinking about this .... really wondering how such cracks could be avoided.
Nice work with that monster!
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Thomas, its a small point but that black bag is for wet collection/slurry. I'm not sure if the plastic might reduce suction a bit over time vs the fleece...
Ive found it a bit tricky past yr to find suppliers for the fleece bags but would imagine youd get a good few 'tip outs' and reuse from the black bag.
Few work arounds for cutting the fleece bags to reuse - but I just replace them each time.
Enjoy its def a game changer!
The fleece bags are for wood dust with the filter cleaning function switched off. You can only have the filter cleaning in when using the black bags or empty container. 👍
@@cyberdogg5 ahh. Well, the plot thickens 😂 you def can have the filter on but it leaves dust which I've always brushed out when tipping the bag.
So scratch that about finding the fleece bags and I'm off to look for plastic instead 😉🤞👍
I've seen you do a chase in a previous video and the dust was shocking. This one was mind blowing from the lack of dust. Would be right handy in an occupied premise and the client won't be finding brick dust for the next couple of years no matter how well you cleaned up. You mentioned the _sucker_ was noisy but how loud was the device with the three blades in it? 🤷♂️
I purchased a Metabo set up like that a few years back but don’t use it that much. The Metabo chaser i have is the MFE30 which i don’t think accepts the triple blade set up which in itself is a big advantage. If anybody has the MFE30 and has tried using the triple blade please let me know as its a sizable layout to find it don’t fit. Excellent video Mr Nagy always🤟🏻🤟🏻
The MFE30 only has a 1400W motor compared to the new one that has 1900W, probably burnout if you use the triple blade was thinking the same. 👍
Congradulations for the great video. I built a house in Mexico about 4 years ago and this definitely would’ve helped. I still plan on getting one cause I know I will come in handy in Mexicos brick homes. Maybe not that expensive one although of all the ones I've seen out there, Metabo looks like the better of them all. All the others look cheaply made. Thanks.
Super impressive machine, and I though the auto-cleaning filter was brilliant!
It's a vacuum, hoover is a brand name good advertising for them, I enjoy watching your channel from a heating engineer
Ive had mine for a couple of years and all i do these days is rewires so it gets a hammering. A great bit of kit but you do 100% still need a dust mask. When it blocks , which it does, the room still fills with dust in about 2 seconds.
Dustless chasing changed my life.
Even a small henry will do the job if its a few small chases. Its all anout having a tool with a shroud and hose that fits properly
Your stalker will be at your invoice address in no time 😂🤣
I have a makita dust extraction Hoover and wall chaser(and I’m very happy with how it keeps the dust down), but it uses a twin blade. I wonder would the triple blade fit into my machine?? Do you have a link to the blade? Do they have a standard centre hole diameter?🤔
Next video: We need to disclose that they refunded the money because I liked it so much 😂😂😂
This thing wil pay itself back with a few customers, and it's only 800.... That's cheap for something that good 🤷🏼♂️
Hi Tom I bought one about 8 weeks ago , wall chaser is a excellent piece of kit, but i have found the extractor sometimes clogs the tube, ive also broken one wheel
It's a good idea to rough up the edges of the chase with a kango. Once the house is plastered and painted those dead straight lines show through after like a shadow in the wall.