High Gain MESA RECTIFIER shoot out! Road King vs REV F!

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    German producer Kristian Kohle (Aborted, Powerwolf, Hämatom, Van Canto, Eskimo Callboy, Sinister) pulls out his two Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifiers to find out which one sounds more brootal!
    The legendary 2 channel REV F from the 90s or the ROAD KING 2! Let's find out!
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Komentáře • 329

  • @KohleAudioKult
    @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +16

    Which Rectifier is your favorite for high gain tones? Let me know!

    • @axeltnl3910
      @axeltnl3910 Před 3 lety +4

      Rev F of course

    • @DarkHorizonsMusic
      @DarkHorizonsMusic Před 3 lety +1

      My vote def goes to the Rev F for metal.

    • @rodrigogt4011
      @rodrigogt4011 Před 3 lety +2

      I also like and other recto flavor the Mesa boogie roadster

    • @AndreiGrozea
      @AndreiGrozea Před 3 lety +5

      Single recto!

    • @BrainDeadTX
      @BrainDeadTX Před 3 lety +3

      In your opinion, which amp sim gets the closest to your REV F? BTW your IRs are the best in the market \m/

  • @rnhtube
    @rnhtube Před 3 lety +68

    You know shit's about to get real when he pulls his beanie up

  • @riccardo8676
    @riccardo8676 Před 2 lety +10

    Roadking can also sound with 4 6l6 + 2el 34. So having 6 power tubes like a triple rectifier. This guarantees a devastating sound. I honestly like the sound of Roadking better, perhaps because I have recently had a multiwatt and my ears have not been used to hearing the same sound over and over for 20 years. I find the roadking sound to be fuller with more harmonics.

    • @BillyRiffinDaTube
      @BillyRiffinDaTube Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agreed, after I fiddled with my road king when I owned one, it sounded better than any rectifier I ever owned by a mile. My second fav is the multiwatt, then the tremoverb and roadster.

  • @brpadington
    @brpadington Před 3 lety +17

    I've always preferred the sound of the Mark series amps. I also really love the Roadking. Great amp.

    • @Turboy65
      @Turboy65 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Anything a Rectifier can do, a Mark can do better. (Mark IIC+ and newer)

  • @DarkHorizonsMusic
    @DarkHorizonsMusic Před 3 lety +4

    As a general Mesa fan and a Rectifier lover...this video is awesome! Thanks for the comparison man. Great content as always!!

  • @killasting
    @killasting Před 3 lety

    Thanks so much for making this! I never thought my little comment would inspire such an incredible video like this! You’ve definitely got my sub man!

  • @ashleyevans424
    @ashleyevans424 Před 3 lety +8

    You got them sounding pretty close. They just nailed it with the Rev F and those Dual rectifiers in general.

  • @drmoshie
    @drmoshie Před 3 lety

    Awesome video once again! Thanks Kohle!

  • @davel_ggw
    @davel_ggw Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent comparison! Both sound great, but I am more than happy with my Roadster for when I want that type of tone, which also has an amazing clean channel, and does respectable Plexi and tweed tones too.

  • @creatio1
    @creatio1 Před 3 lety +1

    King surprised me really. It sounds great 👍 I really like watching /listening your videos, cheers!

  • @thechannelforeverything2170

    That "Well that was fast" gave me a good laugh. I think they both sound pretty cool. I find that in general, over time Mesa amps started getting voiced darker and darker. which I think is why so many people like the earlier Mesa's cause they just have a more ballsy tone.

    • @turunturun
      @turunturun Před 2 měsíci

      Same here 😂 he was like “they sound TOTALLY different” then twists one knob and 3 seconds later is like “well that was fast”. Probably more accurate to say something like a Top Hat Emplexador and a Road King sound totally different but a Recto and ch 3 & 4 on a Road King are more or less the same amp apart from features and voice tweaking. Either way, killer video. Never owned a Rev F myself but my RKII gets me as far as I want to go down that path. Also, ridiculously sick playing. Stealing some of those drop D riffs for myself :)

  • @cmd_f5
    @cmd_f5 Před 3 lety +1

    Oh man. This is gold.
    First, I like the pure no BS of the RevF. Dry, grinding and dynamic. Very tight but no djent kitty mid quacking. Just metal. All metal.
    The Roadking is more flexible but not as dry. I love how saturated vintage mode gets though. It has the recto DNA but not a copy of the RevF. Very cool.
    Glad you talk about gain structure and lows and how all that effects the end tone. I could go on and on about gain structure, how simply copying an EQ curve will not work when trying to make two different amps sound alike. It really requires a knowledge of the character of gain and how adding and removing freqs pre-gain changes the sound. It's great science for sure.
    I'd probably graba a RoadKing just because they're more available. In sim land I'm not the biggest recto fan. My ultimate goal when mixing is the sound, which means I avoid the Recto sims for some reason. But I love playing through them. Both sim and real life. There' something about the control of distortion when playing through a good recto sim. Strum gently and things are almost rock land. Try and gut the guitar via its strings and everything is beyond heavy. Can feel the thump of the amp in my chest which just eggs me on more to try and write something truly evil.
    More of this kinda thing please. It's instructional and super fun. All my guitar friends agree. :)
    Cheers!

  • @rockdaddy2168
    @rockdaddy2168 Před rokem +1

    The Tube screamer just deletes the lower frequencies so you loose the bottom end. If you use the Gibson MIII pickups and electronics you don't need a POS stomp box and you get tight low definition at high gain. F pedals.

  • @franckinthestudio
    @franckinthestudio Před 3 lety

    Very informative. Thanks!

  • @clipfishcarsten
    @clipfishcarsten Před 3 lety

    Great video! That's exactly the differences that I could make out between my Roadster and the old Rev F Triple (apart from the volume). Many people think the Roadster/Road King sound dull, but the sweetspots of treble/presence are just in a different spot, I usually run them at noon for the Rev F and at ~2 o'clock on the Roadster to get a similar sound.
    For me, the chunky/low-mid focussed/not overly tight sound of the Road- series will always be connected to the "Train of Thought" Album by Dream Theater. It has this extremely chunky, growling but not overly aggressive rhythm sound, combined with the low tunings that JP used there.

  • @mariuszadamczyk7766
    @mariuszadamczyk7766 Před 3 lety

    It is making me come back to my Mesa B again. 🙏 thanks

  • @michaelsarahmilazzo1503
    @michaelsarahmilazzo1503 Před 2 lety +2

    I would have loved to see the RK with ALL of the tubes going - four 6L6s and two EL34s... THAT is a wicked sound. I know that it's not totally fair, on one hand, as the Rev F can't do that, but on the other it is fair to compare one amp vs. another heads up, each with their strengths and weaknesses.

  • @DJ33
    @DJ33 Před 3 lety

    Well done. I’m sure this will help many!!

  • @adilO.o
    @adilO.o Před 3 lety

    "They really massage your guts" 😂😂😂😂 🙌🏻 this is really my favorite CZcams channel 😝😝

  • @jgmopar
    @jgmopar Před 3 lety

    I finally got my Eminence DV-77 in the mail today. Long wait by i got it. I have your IR pack as well.

  • @jarrusjenkins
    @jarrusjenkins Před 3 lety +3

    When you had the road king in Vintage mode, it had an Orange Rockerverb kind of vibe.
    Not as nice sounding but still a useable. I'd be turning the gain down and use that sound for some classic rock riffs, definitely a thing for me.
    Funny thing is, as I've gotten older I appreciate the Rectifier more, love the bright bitey sound it does....

  • @brugvp
    @brugvp Před 3 lety +4

    As a rectifier lover that video was awesome! You've got them to sound pretty close. In a mix I think I wouldn't be able to hear the difference between them. But 25min is not enough... WE NEED MORE RECTIFIER! lol maybe if you get other revisions/versions like the mini recto, multiwatt etc in the studio you can shootout. Would love to get one myself but here in Brazil they cost as much as a car.

  • @miserypath
    @miserypath Před 3 lety +1

    It's incredible how much tighter the Rev F sounds. Although the final settings on the road king sound good! Sadly I don't own any of those and they are expensive

  • @RoyBelmont
    @RoyBelmont Před 2 lety +1

    As someone who's a mesa fanboy I've found that a lot of people expect and try to use the amps knobs like they would any other amp which can cause them to sound like shit. it took me a solid 7 months to learn my own rectos sweet spot and about the same for my mark v. it has to all be done by ear(like you seem to!) and not by sight like so many demos have and ruined the sound. the EQ works like a eq band pedal does instead of a more traditional type. presence knob becomes the main controller and filter for the other knobs which adds even more tricky things to getting a good tone dialed up. love you vids as always!

  • @tobins6800
    @tobins6800 Před 3 lety

    Nailed it. And thank you for the quick demo of the speaker difference. Even on my phone speaker's, can hear the harmonic difference between the 2.
    For me, one of the most brutal and evil tones I have ever heard was Destruction Release from Agony. How many bands in the last 35 years have been bold enough to get near that? Not many. Really goes to show what a little imagination and stepping away from convention can do.

  • @oldmetalguy4577
    @oldmetalguy4577 Před 3 lety +4

    Only the Rev F! I'm also waiting for the "I've never used the Clean channel" t-shirt too. lol

  • @bradhill935
    @bradhill935 Před 3 lety

    would've been interesting to see how much of a difference there was between the 2 in a mix....i preferred the Road King once you dialed it in, i prefer a smoother distortion & obviously more bells & whistles make it more usable for me in a live setting...another great video once again!

  • @may_sin7777
    @may_sin7777 Před 2 lety +1

    Damn that Rev F is the hi gain tone I picture in my head as the tone I want. The old rectifiers are unmatched in ballsiness IMO

  • @Magostudiorecording
    @Magostudiorecording Před 3 lety

    Cool video !!! It would be really interesting to compare the most common 3 channel dual recro with your old one …. To see if they can sounds close …see you soon Man 😃

  • @CrushingAxes
    @CrushingAxes Před 3 lety

    Both are great dude!

  • @lloydorsino492
    @lloydorsino492 Před 3 lety

    I am glad you made this video, I used to own the rev F in 1995. I played it with my Ibanez Destroyer w/ EMG pickups. Best sounding combination for high sustain for shredding leads. I didn't have to plug any overdrive pedals since the gain & sustain in that Rev F was already easy to shred fast licks on.Real liquidy feel under my fingers. I heard Reb Beach w/ Dokken in 97 live, same amp set up Ibanez Voyager guitar w/ EMGs. IT was WICKED SOUNDING, both rhythm and lead. I had to sell my 1995 Mesa Black Diamond face so I could buy the Road King 2 back in 2014. John Petrucci recorded with the Mesa Roadking 1 on the "Train of Thought" album and toured with it for a while. That is one of the reasons why I wanted a Road king 2 really bad.I regret selling the Rev F. I totally agree that the Rev F modern gain sounds more wicked than my Road King 2. I wanted the versatility of both progressive linkage, since I was always switching between El 34 & 6L6s. The Road King 2 doesn't seen too have the sustain like my old Rev F. I usually end up using a Tube screamer or Keely red dirt O.D. for the liquid sustain gain for the RK 2. Hopefully some day I'll buy that 2. channel Rev F version. I know Ola Englund is big fan of Mesa Rectifiers. Both Tremonti & Ola Englund mentioned their love/hate relationship with rectos as well. Thanks for the tone tips on this video, I'll do some tweaking on my Road King 2 soon!! Cheers!!

    • @lloydorsino492
      @lloydorsino492 Před 3 lety

      To add to that, the name shown on those recto models (SOLO HEAD) rev version meant for the 80s shredders could be a reason why that amp was meant for the mid 80s guitar solo shredders to easily play legato. That is why even Allan Holdsworth and Neal Schon owned those versions too. There are pictures of them posing with those SOLO head model recto rev. versions.

  • @krailanuar
    @krailanuar Před 3 lety

    Love It Chug Comparison Mesa Dual Rec Nice And Tripe Rec

  • @thebenjineer_
    @thebenjineer_ Před 3 lety

    Really interesting Video! Would love a similar comparison between a dual and a single rectifier with typical Kohle-Qualität!

  • @leonisalpha4537
    @leonisalpha4537 Před 3 lety +18

    First thing that crossed my mind is that roadking might actually benefit from a v30 speaker. But both can sound fucking epic. But what every video on yt fails to show is the "feel" of the Amp. You know... Some make you bash the shit out of your guitar, others just want you to be precise otherwise all sort of crap is flying out of it....thats a big deal in my book. I can kind of work on tone but that "feel" thing I either like or I don't. I was surprised a couple times with some amps that sounded great but just didn't sit well with my style of playing. Or maby I am just a picky ass guitar player. Who the fuck knows😁

    • @frankscassi4960
      @frankscassi4960 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree. I love the sound of Orange Rockerverb Mk3 amps, but only when others play it. I can't bond with it while playing. It is probabily me being a crappy guitarist, though :D

    • @leonisalpha4537
      @leonisalpha4537 Před 3 lety

      @@frankscassi4960 nah bro. I am sure you are a fine guitarist. 😊 We just don't click with every Amp out there. I had the same expirience with Victory Kraken. I like how the thing sounds, I just don't like playing trough it. 🤷‍♂️

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff5777 Před 2 lety

    Wow I love that Vintage mode

  • @cosmopavone2609
    @cosmopavone2609 Před 3 lety

    You’ve come back pretty quickly Kohle. Well done 👍 did not watch it til the end yet but I’m sure it will be proper done 😋
    Alright.
    I see/ hear what’s going on I think. There is nothing magic in Rev f that couldn’t be easily replicated closely enough by the monster as rkII is. No gummy berries juice.
    Thanks 👍

  • @EricShreds
    @EricShreds Před 3 lety +1

    ID LOVE TO SEE the DUAL ROADSTER 4 channel VS 2 channel. i owned both and loved them both

  • @chrismonaut
    @chrismonaut Před 3 lety +1

    After going back and forth between monitors and headphones there is a clear winner for me: the DV 77.
    Seriously great speaker. Even sounds great with presence all the way cranked.

  • @ChaddSullivan
    @ChaddSullivan Před 3 lety +2

    I owned a Roadster and a Road King, I bought them knowing they were voiced less aggressively than a standard Dual. They can do metal, but the sweet spot is different. The difference is by design,

  • @75stephengreen
    @75stephengreen Před rokem

    To be honest I had a rev f but found I like the new triple with multi watt over the F so I sold it. I do have a roadster which I tend to use even more than the triple.

  • @Ainnacy
    @Ainnacy Před 3 lety

    Awesome as usual, what do you think about the Triple rectifier pretty recent compare to Rev F?

  • @dyonight
    @dyonight Před 3 lety

    the Dual have that metallic and percussive bite the roadking don't seem to do as well, I'd still be happy with with a Roadking though! Very close!

  • @firmansaragi498
    @firmansaragi498 Před 3 lety +2

    Nice video Kohle.
    Would love to see Rev F vs the common rev for dual rectifier on the market. Is it rev G?
    Or the Mesa triple crown for metal

  • @samerbata
    @samerbata Před 2 lety

    "Massage your guts" 😂😂😂
    Excellent video 😁

  • @derrotamundial4554
    @derrotamundial4554 Před 3 lety +1

    I think that the dual rectifier multiwatt reborn sounds the same or very close to the rev F.......I think that the multiwatt is the best choice.

  • @ToddjMitchell
    @ToddjMitchell Před 3 lety

    I really enjoyed the comparison Kristian - thanks. I'd be very curious to know how the 2 channel lunchbox stacks up to the Rev F. For a lot less money (and WAY less kg), can it hold it's own against either?

  • @melkorofficial6013
    @melkorofficial6013 Před 3 lety +1

    A cool addition for your Rectifier series would be to test the new Amped Dual plugin by ML Sound Lab against the real thing!

  • @sergiotellis782
    @sergiotellis782 Před 3 lety

    So, with the 6L6s on the RK you can get the rev F sound with the necessary tweaking. It's not really a case of which one is better (cause both are great) but what sits better in the mix.

  • @scottwilcox6313
    @scottwilcox6313 Před 3 lety +2

    I would like to hear the V 30 and the DV 77 mixed together with the Rectifier.

  • @RyanDanielBrown2011
    @RyanDanielBrown2011 Před 3 lety

    i actually like the road king but i gravitate to darker tones cause im not playing metal all the time but both amps sound great

  • @bigchocolate8547
    @bigchocolate8547 Před 2 lety

    Kohlekeller Studio, I just purchased a Fernandes Ravelle with a Spalted maple top and Emg pickups as well just because I saw your videos playing them. Never even knew these guitars existed but I'm glad I own one now and hopefully it sounds and feels great. The guitar needs a great setup coming from 🇬🇧 to 🇺🇸. Cheers 🍻

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 2 lety +1

      Great guitar! Good choice!
      Most of the time I play the black baritone version though.

    • @bigchocolate8547
      @bigchocolate8547 Před 2 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult I've noticed in one your videos you're playing a fernandes ravelle spalted maple top guitar. The same guitar I have 👍🏿. My man if you don't mind me asking you this question. What are your measurements height on your emg pickups from the low E and high E on the bridge pickup and the same for your neck pickup as well? I'm so sorry for the inconvenience but I love the tone of your guitar and I've never played a guitar with emg pickups before. Thanks so much.

  • @stefanozurich
    @stefanozurich Před 3 lety

    If my memory serves me right, the raw mode on the 3 channel and RK models is basically the same as the "clean" mode on the old rev f and g models. Also the V30 makes it sound like more gain from the extra high end, or at least to me it does.

  • @digchevelle
    @digchevelle Před 2 lety

    I'm probably a minority here in that I love the 2nd channel of the 3-channel Recto set to "vintage" with tube rectification and bold setting.
    Vintage allows you to dial in the midrange while the tube rectification provides a heavier feel. That's not to say that the earlier revisions don't sound great.
    I play metal primarily and use a Mark III or IV if I need something tighter than a recto.

  • @mattvdh
    @mattvdh Před 3 lety

    It's kind of amazing how much the black album production gave to the world

  • @georgepelekoudis
    @georgepelekoudis Před 3 lety +18

    I love this Rectifier focus series. The Rev F IMO, was a clear winner. It felt like the RK was trying to catch up to the F’s balls. Interested to see a shootout between the F and a modern 3-Channel Triple Rec!

    • @bucknasty69
      @bucknasty69 Před 3 lety +3

      Multi Watt Dual and Triple Recs nail the Rev F sound spot on. The Multi Watts are probably the best rectos Mesa has made since the old 2 channel ones.

    • @georgepelekoudis
      @georgepelekoudis Před 3 lety

      @@bucknasty69 I’d like to think so. I purchased a Triple Rec last year, for the studio I run. Love listening to it with a Fortin 33 in front.

    • @bucknasty69
      @bucknasty69 Před 3 lety +1

      @@georgepelekoudis Multi Watt Triple Recs are gnarly. I'm gonna get one whenever Mesa catches up on production. I've never tried the Fortin 33 but I've heard good things about it. I bet it sounds killer with your Triple!

    • @georgepelekoudis
      @georgepelekoudis Před 3 lety +1

      @@bucknasty69 I believe it was the last Pre-Gibson Rectifier in Montreal. They’ve been back ordered since. It’s a bit of a drag because the music store had the head paired with a Mesa Traditional OS 4x12. It still sounds amazing, but I would’ve preferred a Standard Oversized, which is the one to have. We’ll both have to wait ‘till Mesa catches up with production :)

  • @hmtp177
    @hmtp177 Před 3 lety +1

    Another Awesome Video! Pleeeease review/talk about the forgotten underrated TREMOVERB!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      sure...if I can get my hands on one!

    • @hmtp177
      @hmtp177 Před 3 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult Jeez, If I could send my from Japan I would lend you in a heart-beat! (I wonder if it's possible)I truly appreciate all your work.

  • @ZLblDEN
    @ZLblDEN Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as ussual ))) Love this channel.
    Have you ever tried (sure you have) such amps as Randall Satan and Mesa Mark
    What's your opinion?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Never tried the Satan.
      Mark IV is a great amp. Haven't used it for a while though. Maybe it's time to find one again.

    • @zenistermister9695
      @zenistermister9695 Před 3 lety

      That Satan is 1 of the most ballsy amps ever made. It was originally the Fortin Satan. You should check it out 🤘 metal af.

  • @needsLITHIUM
    @needsLITHIUM Před 3 lety

    Also, for the Road King II, try moving the tone knob on the tube screamer all the way to the right, turn the gain on the amp down by one or two, and turn the gain on the tube screamer up to 9 or 10 o'clock. Normally, I put the tone at somewhere between 1 and 3 o'clock for a 6505 or 6534+ or Soldano, or whatever have you. For a JCM 900, for an Orange amp, or for anything that tends to be overly dark and loose on the bottom, I crank the tone knob, lower the gain on the amp, and then raise the gain slightly on the OD pedal. In my experience, this helps with amps that have a flubby low end, or sound too dark, especially if you like to retain the lower frequency information in the signal like the Road King II has, and not have to turn the bass all the way down.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety

      You have to be careful with the tone lob.
      Anything above 9 o’clock usually adds a lot of hiss.

    • @needsLITHIUM
      @needsLITHIUM Před 3 lety

      @@KohleAudioKult especially with brighter amps, or ones prone to getting hissy or fizzy, yeah. there are other tube screamer equivalent od pedals. I generally prefer 4558 chip types, blues driver, dumble drive, or clon type over the other ibanez or boss od-1. also, noise gates help, l lot lol.

  • @firmans12
    @firmans12 Před 3 lety +10

    The road king sounds like a modern version of rev F with more saturate distortion and tone, but the rev F sounds like more bark for the rhythm
    Please do with Tremoverb next. Rarely seen it on the youtube
    Or rev F vs whatever rev which is common on the new market lol

  • @nicwilson89
    @nicwilson89 Před 2 lety

    The presence knob is a power amp section thing, no preamp. Along with resonance, they function by adding negative feedback from the output transformer into the phase inverter. They alter the treble and bass response of the power amp, I suppose you could say. By adding presence, you're reducing the negative feedback in the power amp and 'fooling' the power amp into thinking there is too little treble in the output so the treble response increases. Negative feedback is to make the power amp operate more linear, reducing it by bleeding off high or low frequencies being injected back into the phase inverter alters this :)

    • @ventproc
      @ventproc Před 2 lety

      Dual recs in modern mode don't use NFB. The presence controll is actually different (RC filter hooked up to the wiper of the treble pot) and wired in the preamp for this mode. Vintage mode has NFB and a traditional presence controll.

  • @davidnuzzaci2459
    @davidnuzzaci2459 Před 3 lety +1

    Try a Boss EQ 200, I cut the lows before the pre amp and cut highs to taste after the pre amp, also I can clean boost either or both ends and I don't color the sound as much as with the screamer. This pedal is incredibly versatile.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +2

      I agree that EQs can be cleaner. A Tube Screamer is perfect for a Recto though.

    • @ChaddSullivan
      @ChaddSullivan Před 3 lety +1

      I used one of those with my road king, great pedal and gave me a lot of variety in tone

    • @davidnuzzaci2459
      @davidnuzzaci2459 Před 3 lety

      @@ChaddSullivan I don't think most realize what this one pedal is capable of! It never leaves my pedal board.

  • @wetunetoc1020
    @wetunetoc1020 Před 3 lety

    Cool comparison. You got some great tones out of the amps. Personally, I still prefer my multi-watt Triple Rec. Just wondering - do you use the older 70 or newer 60 Watt Mesa Vintage30s' ?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      I'm using a DV-77 in the video.
      When I switch to the V30s that's a cab from 2002.

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew Před 3 lety

    God damn it you got me over here wanting to buy another roadster head again. It was the best amp I ever had and I always maintained that opinion….

  • @blacklion401
    @blacklion401 Před 2 lety

    Rev F all the way. I had one for years until I blew it up and sold it. A friend of mine still owns it I believe. Just discovered your channel recently, I dig it 🤟🏻.

  • @Rocksite1
    @Rocksite1 Před rokem

    I demoed a Road King (probably a 1, not a 2) in a Mesa Boogie store; and decided I liked the sound better with EL34's AND 6L6's active best. I think it'd be really helpful to compare the Road King in a mix with drums and bass (maybe even a vocalist that doesn't do the demon voice the whole time), with EL34's, 6L6's and especially with both active. Otherwise, it's hard to tell how well it cuts through. Great comparison, tho. Oddly enough, it seemed the Road King with 6L6's sounded most like the Dual Rec with EL34's!

  • @nicholasvillella9370
    @nicholasvillella9370 Před 3 lety

    Consider trying the vintage mode in your rev f.

  • @EvilDragon666
    @EvilDragon666 Před 2 lety

    Drink every time Kristian says "raw and punishing"! :D

  • @jaredmarshall9439
    @jaredmarshall9439 Před 11 měsíci

    I want them both

  • @pputra914
    @pputra914 Před 2 lety

    The RK sounds darker but more versatile, more EQ range. Curious for a comparison between old 2ch rectos and new multi watt rectos or badlander

  • @MRxr400
    @MRxr400 Před rokem

    can i just say, maybe the v30's would get the road king a little closer. add some brightness and mids shift. cool video to be able to hear the different speakers and amps

  • @ChristopherRoss.
    @ChristopherRoss. Před 3 lety

    I have a rev C+ 3 channel solo head that I would love to A/B with a rev F. I'm interested to see the gradations between the 2 and 3 channel heads.

  • @danniporcaro721
    @danniporcaro721 Před 3 lety

    I would choose the "Rect-O-Verb" from 2004. With the big 4x12".

  • @PASHKULI
    @PASHKULI Před 3 lety +1

    Christian, there is some high pitched resonance happening after the palm mutes. Really interesting as I remember a quite similar resonance on the heavy guitars in one of the alt. metal demo songs for Samplitude ("Pick and Choose" by Okda). At the beginning and then again at 12:25 min. and on.

    • @drmoshie
      @drmoshie Před 3 lety +3

      Sounds like the strings ringing behind the nut to me

    • @PASHKULI
      @PASHKULI Před 3 lety

      @@drmoshie Oh, yeah, could be. Sometimes I find (hear) such ringing in many pro-records as well.

    • @PASHKULI
      @PASHKULI Před 3 lety

      ​@@drmoshie But your suggestion may not be the main reason, as Christian definitely mutes the strings with his left hand. Who knows...
      Let's hope he will notice and take note. Maybe find the reason and give some explanation and maybe solution to solve such artefacts.

  • @jonathananthony1901
    @jonathananthony1901 Před rokem

    I had a friend who owned a recording studio. He kept a Road King 2 as one of his House Amps. There were a lot of guys who came in with various Rectifiers, the Reborn, Rev-G, modern 3 channel ones etc, and we were always able to dial in the Road King 2 to sound close to identical within 99%. Obviously not 100%. But if I ever got another Recto, it would be a Road King 2. Cover all my bases.

  • @SmokeBreakStudios
    @SmokeBreakStudios Před 3 lety

    REV-F ALL DAY!!! Great video Kohle! Thank you!

  • @hyperbolekid
    @hyperbolekid Před 3 lety +12

    Seems like Fluff really stirred things up when he sd the newer Multiwatt Rectifiers can sound like the Rev F. Are you able to snag a multi watt Recto?

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +6

      Sooner or later someone will bring one to the studio!

  • @stevenhirsekorn3444
    @stevenhirsekorn3444 Před 3 lety

    I feel like road king would sound really good for bass guitar on the settings with more lower mids if you use a 15" speaker

  • @GrMfull
    @GrMfull Před 2 lety

    Maybe interesting to pan them 1 left and 1 right.
    Is the guitar sound corresponding to the room sound, or the mic from the amp ?

  • @cembobiohazard7779
    @cembobiohazard7779 Před 2 lety

    thanks for posting. Just wondering how would RK2 sound with V30 or Black Shadow 8:56. Wouldn't that be fairer comparison

  • @BrainDeadTX
    @BrainDeadTX Před 3 lety

    In your opinion, which amp sim gets the closest to your REV F? BTW your IRs are the best in the market \m/

  • @acmeyakko
    @acmeyakko Před 3 lety

    Now do the Mini. It's a cool little amp that I've read a lot of people are making use of in the studio. Also, I remain in the TS hater column. There are a lot of pedals that do the job better than the awful, nasal TS thing. This past couple of weeks I've been combining a pretty raw Mark tone (or slight boost with no EQ) with a Strymon Compadre in the Treble mode (no clipping) into a Recto for a nice balanced tone between the low thump of the Mark and the bite of the treble driven Recto.

  • @chaosandorderstudio
    @chaosandorderstudio Před 3 lety

    Yeah the recto has a strange presence knob!
    Considering that the modern channel is not using negative feedback, they had to add some kind of presence knob 🤓😁
    And btw the rectifier tone is a mixture of preamp and poweramp tone that I like so much.
    If you send the recto preamp into another poweramp it won't sound the same.
    It would be too clean sounding.
    I guess because other amps have negative feedback in general

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +1

      Oh yeah. A lot of the Recto tone comes from the power amp.
      Check out the Recto video I did with Fluff last week.

  • @Treachery93
    @Treachery93 Před 3 lety +1

    How would older non-multiwatt Road King II compare to Rev-F?

  • @mrclarksix
    @mrclarksix Před 2 lety +1

    I feel like the road king probably plays a lot better with the v30 than the dv77. That high-end rattle as you call it might do better with the darker amp.

  • @BillyRiffinDaTube
    @BillyRiffinDaTube Před 2 měsíci

    Honestly the Roadking is easily the best rectifier. It sounds much better than any revision in my opinion. Owning just about every version, it takes a bit to dial in the road king when you're used to the reg dual recs as they are darker and have more midrange. But once you do it's incredible and they sound better through a roadking cab as well. The reason they never got popular is because they weigh a hundred dam pounds.

  • @covaciuionut981
    @covaciuionut981 Před 2 lety

    Hey there Kristian. Will you consider releasing a Kemper Profiler tone pack? That Dual Rectifier Rev F sounds killer. Couldn't find anywhere profiles of that amp to sound like yours. Cheers!!

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 2 lety +1

      One day for sure! Not planned right now! Many other cool things coming though.

  • @BlackYetiWhite
    @BlackYetiWhite Před 3 lety +2

    Would love to hear a multi watt recto vs rev f

  • @kangandres
    @kangandres Před 3 lety +1

    nice vid .. would you review pickup next time ?? thx

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +2

      I'd love to. It's just not so easy to A/B pickups.

  • @Akukog
    @Akukog Před 9 měsíci

    Still for me the sound of the dual rectifier is the best in my Ear .... I can set the sound as close to it with my Throttle Box pedal hehehehe.... With a Triple Rec I.R. on my NUX Solid Studio CAB Sim and IR pedal which is the best for me at the moment...

  • @markop.1994
    @markop.1994 Před 2 lety

    I got a mesa triple rec when i was 4 years into my guitar journey. That was 11 years ago, and ive used it like 7 times xD its heavy and im scared to break it xD

  • @SHASHISASHEYSACK
    @SHASHISASHEYSACK Před 3 lety +1

    Have you compared Helix simulation of Rectifier? I've heard it's revision E, but I want to see your opinion about how good is their model of rectifier?

  • @DavePowell666
    @DavePowell666 Před 3 lety +6

    All the br00talz! That mention of the EMGs got me thinking....a pickup shootout could be cool to see.

    • @KohleAudioKult
      @KohleAudioKult  Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah. That's on the list.

    • @DavePowell666
      @DavePowell666 Před 3 lety

      @Kohlekeller Studio Awesome! I've been an active EMG guy for so long I feel like I might be missing out on some other unique flavours, but also scared that I won't like anything else as much. 😜

    • @chrismonaut
      @chrismonaut Před 3 lety +1

      @@DavePowell666 then try the EMG 57/66! Different flavour, but awesome pickups. And you'd still be in the emg camp ;)

    • @DavePowell666
      @DavePowell666 Před 3 lety +1

      @Chris Wacker Ha yes, well I'm down for other EMGs but also I'd like to step outside the EMG camp entirely... maybe. What SD, Fishman, BKP, DiMarzio etc gonna give me dat br00tal gnarly edge I need?😁

    • @hairywonder3
      @hairywonder3 Před 3 lety +2

      @@DavePowell666 SD Black winters are amazing. I don't like fishman moderns as much as I thought I would, sounds like a different flavor of EMG 81

  • @isaacdevlugt
    @isaacdevlugt Před 3 lety

    What’s your opinions on the Mesa Mark II, III, IV, and V?

  • @benjaminmaaen5265
    @benjaminmaaen5265 Před 2 lety

    Super cool
    Danke für den Vergleich
    Ich fand den road King 2 schon immer ziemlich cool
    Und jetzt der Vergleich 🤘🤘🤘
    Mega fett
    die Wahl der Endstufenröhren einfach der knaller
    Ich bin schon immer ein Fan davon gewesen mit den röhren zu spielen
    Also in der Vorstufe
    Was ich auch schon bei einigen amps gemacht habe einfach rausfinden welche röhre in welcher Position am besten klingt und habe mir so meinen 5150 und savage gebastelt so wie ich die fett finde
    Aber jetzt noch in den Endstufen röhren Wechseln zu können 🤩🤘👍
    Und und natürlich der fette lowend 🤩
    Einfach fett

  • @thomasplooij9795
    @thomasplooij9795 Před 3 lety +1

    I love you man

  • @thesoundpurist
    @thesoundpurist Před rokem

    I like dark sound though. I find the sag make it easier to get soft lead tone. YMVV

  • @clintmapes8454
    @clintmapes8454 Před 3 lety

    Here in CZcamsland the EL34s seemed to tighten the low end to me. But could be my old ears playn tricks on me. Would love to be in the room to hear the difference

  • @collinharrigan1652
    @collinharrigan1652 Před 2 lety

    On the roadking, which channel and mode were you using? Channel 3 and channel 4 are voiced differently and also eq differently. There's a good bit of info in the manual about the differences between the two. I own the roadking 2 and couldn't be happier with it. Incredibly versatile amp. All 4 channels are totally usable just depends on what your going for.

  • @R3CT0-CC
    @R3CT0-CC Před 3 lety

    Road King to my ears has it, but I dont play fast/brutal stuff which the Rectifier kills it at. One thing to take note if ur on the fence about a purchase between the two is adding attack/presence to a signal path is much easier than adding low/resonance without it sounding like shit especially in a live setting. From what I understand the Road King series was about being a jack of all trades/master of none type amp while the Rectifier is well, a Rectifier.

    • @joelspaulding5964
      @joelspaulding5964 Před rokem

      Perhaps not a master of everything but the RK IMO, masters every tone from Fender cleans to almost, the highest gain tones available from the F version.
      Seems like the RK, with a boost could be used in any musical situation where as the DR vF has a slightly more niche application set.

  • @wilmathewisp8252
    @wilmathewisp8252 Před 2 lety

    I could kick my ass for selling my old Ref F Rectifier for a ridiculous price years ago... but unfortunately I'm not that flexible...
    You don't happen to have a few Kemper profiles on offer?
    Excellent video!!