Here's 10 Obscure Beast Wars Facts
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Let's talk about Beast Wars for it's 25th birthday! Yes, most of you know all of these, but maybe one or two will catch you off guard!
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The only way it would've been funnier is if Scott stayed in character when he said "Do you mind!? I'm trying to die here!"
If the story I heard is true, he DID stay in character when he said that.
@@KamenRiderGumo I think Ocean Group saw Scott's performance in Beast Wars and hired him on the spot for their dub of Dragon Ball Z. XD
As I recall, it was originally supposed to just be Waspinator and Scorponok who died. But when they decided to spare Waspinator, they still had to kill off someone in his place (again, budget issues). They settled on Terrorsaur because his role in the series, being the Starscream of the Predacons, had been taken over by Tarantulas at that point, who fans found to be a more interesting character. So Terrorsaur was deemed unnecessary, and killed off in Waspinator's place.
Adding to that, the writers chose to make Terrorsaur and Scorponok glow in the same way the other characters who became Transmetals glowed. This was done to keep the door open to a possible return for the pair, though it never happened, it's still interesting to note.
Cool. Didn't know that. Glad they didn't kill Waspinator!
Never care much for waspinator. He complaint about every mission he was given and getting blow up a lot got old real fast.
Beast Wars was actually considered high budget for a kids show at the time. It was pretty expensive. It's jus that the technology they were using was so new and high tech at the time that the budget was just stretched fully. So, yeah, it just wasn't cheap to make. It was groundbreaking.
Too bad they switched to "Beast Machines", because Beast Wars had a lot of lore to explore. I get the whole "lone wolf" thing, but I'm actually glad Tigatron was "big cat" to Cheetor (which made for an interesting dynamic).
I feel like beast machines turned the lore in an unsatisfactory way.
Beast Machines is an incredible show.
@@gannondollins Indeed. It essentially got rid of all the "diverse" villains & replaced them w/ "mindless drones". Plus they kinda ruined some of the characterization. Like: Primal changed from a capable leader into "a space case". Or there not being any clever & character-building interactions, like Rattrap & Dinobot had, or even something as mundane as Cheetor calling Tigatron "big cat". Even Megatron's megalomania was amped up, in an unlikable way. It went from a pretty even war between 2 factions into an Empire vs a handful of rebels type of dynamic; & it wasn't handled very well.
@@seanclapper9965 While the Maximals initially being as confused as us (the audience) seemed like clever writing, I don't think it really was. It came off more like the writers were making up the story as they went along.
The whole reveal about Cybertron's "true origin" wasn't really that surprising at all. Even in the context of the show, it was hinted at pretty heavily (including their new forms).
Botanica was a clever new type of character, but it was all for naught, because they didn't really do much w/ her (kinda like Transmutate).
Even now that I'm older, I still wished they would've either done more w/ the story, or at least showed how Megatron took over Cybertron & reformatted everyone.
@@MoCa1979Jr the part that gets to me is the fact that they basically say cybertron was a techno organic earth at one point which in NO OTHER universe in the franchise has that been the case.
Here's something that relates to the main reason why Beast Wars had such a small budget and number 9. As you mentioned they made animation models that were toy accurate models, but on after seeing the end results Mainframe Entertainment in their own professional opinion thought they were not that great looking. So they spent time and budget to make new animation models that looked similar to their toy counterparts but looked more better for a show. So in short a good amount of the budget was used to making the starting cast twice. Which also explains why the backgrounds seemed more barren in season 1. And from what I understand in season 2 they tried to make up for the budget cuts in the backgrounds which is why only some characters were given trans metal forms and only added two Fuzors to the cast.
I've always wanted to know more about the Vok and this just made me even more invested in finding out as much as I can.
Beast Wars was revolutionary for its time. It and ReBoot (also made by Mainframe) were the first all CG kids shows. They haven't aged well from an animation standpoint but this was in the early days of CGI in animation.
I think Beast Wars aged pretty well, specially compared to… I forgot if it was cybertron? It was part of the unicron trilogy, was CGI and came out around 6 years after Beast Wars so it should have been much better.
no CGI cartoon has aged well, it's why I really really dislike the style.
Toystory 1 is becoming unwatchable as time moves on, but I can rewatch disney classics endlessly.
Being a HUGE fan of anime I really hate how many modern anime are turning to CGI too.
Beast wars is the second animation that mainframe did. Battle of the planets is the third.
I remember that time. Right when the CG trend started.
@@computerstuff8352 same! I am glad someone brought it up.
Good CGI, like the one in Land of The Lustrous, is rare.
In a strange way, I could see how the Beast Wars explains how the G1 Comic and Cartoon both exist. Maybe the Comic was the true 1st incarnation of the Transformers, and it ends with a dead Earth and Cybertronians evolving into Maximals and Predacons. When the Vok improved the planet to make it better, the G1 Cartoon showcased the changes in the timeline, best shown in his average humans had a far easier time fighting the Decepticons. Spike, Sparkplug, Carley, Chase, Raul, and countless other humans became able to hold their own much easier than anyone not named Buster, Spike, or Circut-Breaker could in Marvel.
Such a DC Doomsday Clock thing you’ve described there.
That cant really work because in the comics the dinobots were commandos on cybertron that were awake on prehistoric earth. In the show they were made on earth in modern day
@@danielferguson5971 Don't forget that earth is Earth-616, yeah it was Marvel. They were always separate universes.
This list is very satisfying
Don't have anything to add, just feeding the algorithm to hopefully aid in this video's visibility.
One thing I found interesting about Cheetor in Season 1 is he would most often use his Quasar blaster (aka "gut gun") as his signature weapon - until "Fallen Comrades" brought Tigatron into the show.
After Tigatron was introduced Cheetor would use his other weapon, the less-often seen Quasar rifle (or "tail gun,") more frequently - especially if Big Cat and Little Cat were seen together in a scene.
Carrying different weapons helped visually differentiate the two characters, making one look a little less like a redeco of the other.
I hope he does something like this with animated.
And Prime/Aligned continuity!
The intro is really awsome and i want to see 100 facts
They would be hard to find, and most would probably be filler
I enjoyed this so much! I didn’t know anything from this Top 10 except the saddest death being the funniest and the animators hating Waspinator. Everything else was new info to me.
I’m glad they’re finally releasing the orange Tigatron
More shit like this please toy trivia and behind the scenes MMM love it
Love the new content man
Epic info video TJOmega!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm glad we got Tigatron, since tigers are not social animals, so him wanting to run off on his own fit his beast alt mode. Another reason why Tarantulus was not done in brown was due to brown plastic syndrome, which is almost the same as gold plastic syndrome. Pure brown plastic is extremely fragile and will disintegrate into dust, even without exposure to oxygen. :P Keep on being amazing.
Plus the colors we did get for Tarantulus is just so iconic and much better than just plain brown.
@@crimsondynamo615 I completely agree.
Really cool info in this video, I quite enjoyed it! Though I would have loved to see you mention the early concepts for Beast Wars, including the ultimate form of Megatron: the Sea Turtle Megatron. After learning about those early concepts, I really want a Sea Turtle Megatron figure. (NOTE: This is not me being negative about the video, I just really like Sea Turtle Megatron)
The Wolfang makes me wonder: is it possible that Tigerhawk's role was meant to be originally Silverbolt's?
It could almost explain Blackarachnia kissing Airazor in Kingdom...
Wolfang became Max B in beast wars 2 the anime with Lio Convoy.
@@yagamijubei28 that was only AFTER the original BW run ended, though.
I don't think so, toy production and show making worked pretty much independently from one another, with the toys being made before the show was. The showmakers put Tigerhawk in the show at Hasbro's request because it was an expensive toy they wanted to promote, and that toy was being designed when season 2 was being aired. Silverbolt was being made when the 1st season was showcased, and ended up in the second season to promote the furors toy line. They definitely made Tigerhawk as an amalgamation of Tigatron and Airazor because of their fate in the show, but I don't think Silverbolt was supposed to have any relationship with either Wolfang or Airazor.
@@ShockUzer No, I mean, IF Wolfang was intended to be in the show instead of Tigatron, maybe, at the beginning, it was intended to not exist any Tigerhawk and have their plot resolve in the creation of Silverbolt as a "fusion" of the two.
What I was hinting at is that Netflix was doing something clever (for once) and hinted at the relationship between Blackarachnia and Silverbolt by havin her kissing Airazor, the colest thing to him in the show.
@@brotquel1592 It's hard to know what would've happened if the things went in a different direction, but I don't think that would have happened (Silverbolt is part eagle, not falcon anyways), maybe the toy makers would've made Silverbolt part other animal instead of a wolf or they would've chosen other fuzor for the show instead (the show writers said Hasbro dictated which toys they had to put in the show). And no, Tigerhawk wasn't planned from the very beginning, but that could be said about many other things: Dinobot II, Megatron's dragon mode, Optimal Optimus, etc.
Wooow, I had never heard of the Telemocha originals! I hope they can revive that.
You know what's weird... this video actually showed up in my recommendations FIRST and I had to reload my subscription page three times before it showed up there... Fix your shit CZcams!
Given how the G2 comic was not very successful when compared to the cartoon, I'm glad the writers stuck with working it in with the cartoon continuity. I've seen stills for the lost episode and it explained a lot about the finale.
This was really neat you should do more fact videos like this!
"Do you mind, I'm trying to die here!" Dynobot's death is now forever tarnished because of that.
Much appreciate with these facts I didn’t know anything about these new facts
Even as a non-Beast Wars fan, these were pretty interesting to learn.
Great video, would like to see more fact videos. Also, I found another fact: In the Japanese dub of the original Beast Wars where Airazor was a guy, in the manga adaptation of Season 2 not only did she gained her Transmetal body where in the show she didn't, the writer of the manga decided to change her back into a girl. I wonder what the Japanese fans thought about that?
SO excited to watch this later! Looking forward to your rankings!
First time watching your videos, your store/set makes the kid in me so happy.
25 years of total awsomneess!!!!!!😍😍😍
Damn this is just really interesting. I can't wait for more
I could tell that Dinobot's death scene meant a lot to you.
There is a Unicorn in Beast Wars toys (battle unicorn)
The TF:Prime Predacons are mythical beasts and they are very cool.
Thank you for sharing these facts with us!
Love these new videos TJ. Been watching you for years, you have always made me feel like I have a space in the world of us collector nerds!
There's a CGI fan comic of Dark Glass that was really well done.
I remember having Beast Wars Grimlock. The new one is freaking beautiful
My absolute favorite part of Beast Wars is that BW Megatron is NOT the original Megatron from Transformers. Nothing beats the concept of an overly-dramatic, ambitious evil genius taking the name "Megatron" as an homage to the baddest Larry himself; whose self-righteousness stems from his worship and adoration of real Megatron; and whose greatest character foil lies in the fact that he is not, in reality, the Megatron he wishes he was. Optimus Primal's mirror to this character quirk is far more subtle and less overplayed, which creates a nice irony in the events that lead him to taking on G1 Optimus's spark to save it from Megatron's wrath. Optimus becoming more "Optimus" than Megatron could ever be "Megatron" is a fitting capstone to their character arcs.
i mean if i remember bw megatron actually didn't name himself after g1 megatron he named himself after someone else.
I've always been fascinated by the Vok and I still hope they or the Swarm appear in a cartoon or movie down the line.
I went to that store a couple times really nice people
Thank you for making this specific type of video especially
This is nuts. Thank you
Finally watched, and wow! I consider myself a huge BW fan (it’s tied with ReBoot for my favorite show of all time), but you still managed to surprise me with stuff I never knew! A couple of curiosities:
1) I always thought “Tripledacus” was just one of those weird, Japanese-English things, where the “l” should be an “r,” for “Tripredacus,” but nope!
2) I always thought the stated reason that Earth wasn’t openly discussed or mentioned was because the Maximal Council classified all information regarding its location and how to publicly get in touch with it. Obviously, the Transformers know ABOUT it and its people, but no one has had contact since the Council came into power (which they likely would have done to protect it from involvement in another Great War, or to prevent power hungry villains from seeking to conquer it again). Honestly, I thought that was canon, or at least mentioned in some official publication or whatever, but I certainly could be wrong!
3) isn’t “Megatron” something the BW Megs just chooses to call himself, as opposed to his birth name?
In any case, I always kind of liked the idea that these legendary names get passed down, regardless of connotation.
Not sure about the first two points but apparently yes, beast Megatron used to have a different name. Gnashteeth.
He then named himself Megatron when a betrayal led to him becoming a criminal and gathering his predacon crew.
@@aikou2886 Gnashteeth? I’d change my name, too.
@@JOEmega64 He was named after a Minicon so I would change it too lol.
Learned a lot from this video. Thanks TJ!
As I upload my beast wars tier list, nice
It was great learning about all that! Most of this I had no idea about. Thank you for taking the time to share it!
I was obsessed with my original Cheetor action figure.
Think of it: Beast Wars Mythicals! Maximals and Predacons who become mythical creatures. Manticores, griffins, chimeras, you name it!
Instead, the only ones we got were a couple dragons, a unicorn, a poorly done Cerberus and a cartwheeling Griffin made of translucent plastic.
If only the show had a larger budget.
We could’ve had some of the characters from the toyline in the show.
Like Wolf Fang, Polar Claw, Razorbeast, etc.
Well, at least we had the Beast Wars comics.
This was a very fun video.
As far as Optimus Primal and Megatron being the original versions, I believe it straight out said that in the comic that came with the Bat and Alligator 2 pack.
Totally agree they should have created more transformers that turn into mythical beasts. Could have done a whole line of them too
Loving the top 10 videos! They’re some of my favorites!
This was a really cool video, keep it up!
THIS is a really good video concept!!
The silly voice thing was a dud IMO.
The toyline ranking thing was a good idea but you needed to execute it a little differently IMO.
Keep going :)
I love this style of vid, please do more TJ!
As a kid I couldn't get over that Cheetors gun looks like it's made from his BeastForm guts lol
I’ve been meaning to give Beast wars & Machines a try, I’ll probably watch them after the trailer for Rise of the Beasts comes out.
Huh I've never heard number 1 before. That does explain why Depth Charge's ship computer tells him that region of space was off limits though!
Need more top 10s
I'm honestly surprised you never mentioned that fossilizers were originally a concept from the first beast wars toyline
Actually they were originally a G1 concept that Hasbro had ready in case Rock Lords took off and they had to compete.
@@TJOmega Ok, see, THAT'S the kind of obscure I'm talking about :D
Oh my lord I didn’t realize you’ve uploaded all these videos recently, nice!
Great vid TJ, please do more of these.
Nice !
I would’ve expected Tigatron to actually be a snow leopard, since those are actually a thing. They could’ve called him “Spotron” or something.
Store tour in the future maybe?
Is it weird that I have more nostalgic memories for Beast Wars as a show than I did with the classic Transformers series? I never owned any of the toys but I was drawn into the plot and characters.
Im glad we got Tigatron because we eventually got a wolf in Silverbolt
Two number 8's? What a deal!
A little side note is at the original Optimus primal and Megatron was supposed to be a bat and an alligator. I even got the toy when I was young kid but seeing how a bat is the size and was more of a ninja type it didn't felt with Optimus Prime's characteristics. I still have both of the figures though.
We did get one other mythical creature in Beast Wars. Silverbolt's alt mode is based on Q'ursha (or Kursha) from Georgian mythology.
Well, I learned nothing new in this video, so I guess I'm much more of a hardcore Beast Wars fan than I thought if these are considered obscure facts. XD;; (Thank you TFWiki for making me think they weren't.) Still, it's nice to have a video where more of these facts and tidbits are condensed into one place. So, I say keep this as a format, more facts that are not widely known. I'm sure Beast Wars has more than enough obscure facts to make at least two more videos, and then there's G1, RID 1.0, Unicron Trilogy, and so on. Then there's other franchises you could expand upon with this video format, like Power Rangers and Reboot to give a couple of examples.
Thanks for this video.
Dinobot is still my favorite Transformer ever and the only Transformers action figures I have in my collection.
The jellyfish, manticore and triffid are in Beast Wars: Uprising. Their names are Rāge, Manticon and Flytrap.
I loves Beast Wars but I wished there were more Dinosaurs.
Oh yeah, I always thought then Trantulous (i can't spell) was referred to as the "spawn of unicron" I thought it had a much deeper meaning, but then on one of the forums it was said to just be an insult, which honestly doesn't really make much sense to me, but oh well. I think that concept thought would have been fascinating to explore.
Skipped over the Bat Optimus and the Alligator Megatron (The bodies the continuation would have used for them as the original Op and Meg)
I had heard about the scrapping of Wolfang being in the show and he was one of my favorites though a long way back i lost his tail, still have his clone of K-Nine i think it was or something like that. A lot of my Beast Wars Transformers are in decent condition still, trying to locate them all after moving out of our old house last year. Still have my Megatron alligator version but i lost my Optimus bat, never got the ape and T-Rex but have the transmetal versions though my nephew broke my Megatron accidentally. If i could afford to get them i would hunt for other transformers from Beast Wars.
Epic
Well, if you want you can look at Silverbolt as a mythical animal. He's technically a gryphon, just a wolf instead of a lion.
Whoa…I’ve been following the BW line since the beginning and several of these were new to me. Great stuff!
Hi, TJ!
10. Doing a BW rewatch right now with some friends, one of whom is watching the show for the first time. This week we are doing Bad Spark. Thanks for the reminder of what Dinobot was doing, now I know how to explain that to her.
9. Glad we got what we got with the heads we got.
8. Didn't know that, or a completely forgot. So glad they kept Waspy around.
7. I prefer Tigatron to be honest. Also, would we have gotten Silverbolt who also had a wolf form if Wolf Fang already existed?
6. I remember that story. Still doesn't stop that death from being one of the best in all TV. In two weeks I'll get to see how a first time viewer reacts as well.
5. I love the more unique colors too. In addition, I love how TM Tarantulus takes traditional comic book bad guy colors to the Nth degree.
4. So glad they made that change. Yesssss. Because they sounded and acted nothing like the originals, no. In a lot of ways, Megs and Op not being the originals is one of the major things that convinced me to watch the show in the first place and let me know they had some respect for what came before instead of thinking the audience was stupid and expect them to just accept characters who were nothing like to originals as the originals. The smart decision to not make them the originals gave David and Gary a chance to make them their own and now BW Megs and OP are legends in their own right!
3. Interesting, didn't know that. Would have enjoyed that manticore. This is why I love Battle Unicorn. Definitely would have loved some more mythological beast modes.
2. &1. Trying to explain the Vok to a new viewer has been...confusing. And I haven't even tried to explain The Swarm part. Forgot about it to be honest. I hope the new BW comic tries to do something with the Vok. (Maybe they already have, I wait for the trades.)
What a great video! Keep it up!
14:51
Bruh that's fucking terrifying.
Wow you know a lot about beast wars!
not sure if the limited budget issues were solved if they did the show in 2D animation which was proven with BW 2nd and BW Neo.
But it would end up like changing timeline to get rid of problem ending up causing another one: fact that they couldn't fit so much characters meant we got more focus on these which we had, so the good character-driven story is result of not putting in every character from toyline, also BWII anyway used primarily repaints, so it would have hard time if everyone was used.
This show was my entire childhood!
We need another top 10 transformers of the decade for the 2010s
When are they going to give us a new REAL beast wars show. I was happy to see my old favorites in wfc earthrise but I want them to reboot beast wars. Follow the same thread from the og and give us new in between and less filler
TBH it would be cool if it was made by a Japanese studio. The best of Transformers came from Japan.
Actually it kind of started due to Japanese influences.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo I watched the neo and bw2 dubs... I liked the animation but the writing was too goofy.
Canada did the og bw cgi.
Idc who does it. As long as it's good
Will you do these for other series
Very interesting very interesting
Great vid!
Hold on, didn't Jhiaxus NUKE San Francisco in G2?
Optimus literally has a breakdown over it, metal issue.
Pretty sure Rampage (Protoform X) is the most infamous criminal in Cybertrons history, war criminal or regular criminal
5:59 Silverbolt is part wolf.
I expected one of the facts to be where blackarachnia’s design came from.
Beast wars is first introduction to transformers
Where’s the shop that you work at?
Interesting.
Wolffang is in the beast wars anime. He is called Max B