What the S5 II means for the future of Panasonic cameras
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- The phase detection autofocus of the Panasonic S5 II finally addresses the biggest complaint about the Lumix camera line-up: inconsistent focus performance. Now that Panasonic has the technology, what does this mean to the rest of the Lumix camera lines?
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0:00 - Intro
0:53 - Brand perception
2:22 - S-Series full frame bodies
6:11 - G-Series M43 bodies
9:11 - The wrap
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G9 mkii with PDAF. Massively underrated photo camera with excellent video features AND IT HAD A FULL SIZE HDMI!!!!
Yes, Panasonic please do not give up on the G9. It's the perfect hybrid camera that doesn't fill a whole backpack with lenses.
I would love that to upgrade my GH5
I'm confused, I don't see a G9 mark 1 or 2 in Panasonics catalog? I just see G9. I'm new to Panasonic and I am trying to figure out the differences . Sorry in advance if this is a silly question.
@@iM-mf1ke there's no g9 mk2 in existance. People wants a second version and for that second version to come with phase detect auto focus! It would be perfect!
@@masssssy I see …. I guess I didn’t read the comment correctly . Thanks for explaining.
I think the S5II is the most exciting release in the camera world in a long time! Suddenly Panasonic has made their way back onto stage with a big surprise and I think we're all here for it.
Agreed. Biggest camera release since the A7SIII.
Everyone hypes Panasonic for changing to technolgie wich exists for years i don't see any huge suprise besides the integration of LUTs in body.
@@MW-df2fm It's surprising for Panasonic as a company. And it is indeed impressive that their first version of this advanced autofocus system is this good, easily holding up to the likes of Canon and Sony who have been implementing this for (much much) longer. The thought of better competition is what excites me the most to be honest.
@@trustnugget280 wtf did you see some video ? The autofocus is bad asf he crazy hunt a Sony a7iii 5 year old destroy it
@@denis5850 Watch Richard Wong's test on the autofocus performance and see for yourself
Love to see a new GX7 style camera with hybrid PDAF, external mic input, 4K/60p, and 1/8000 top shutter speed. For now I'm still using my GX7.
New gx80/ gx9 style camera with the new autofocus, would be the ultimate affordable street camera
A G9 II with good animal detect implementation, phase detection autofocus, similar size - I've never bought a new camera, always second hand, but I'd pre-order a G9 II.
I think Panasonic have the potential to outstrip Canon, Nikon and Sony, if they continue to refine their autofocus system while keeping to features and habits that have made Panasonic cameras great to this point (useful video features, great menus and ergonomics, robust firmware updates)
A lot of us are not interestested in L mount, and look forward to implementation of phase detect in MFT, GH6 M2, GH5 M3, G9 M2
I totally agree with Jordan. Give us some tiny little micro 4/3 bodies with phase detect!
As someone who originally shot my first feature film with the Panasonic GH5 and switched to Sony over a year ago, I can say that the S5ii and S5iiX could quite well bring me back to Panasonic. I think Panasonic skin tones are far superior than most other brands. At least, that was my experience. I think these two new cameras are a game changer for Panasonic. And might be just the cameras that bring me back to Panasonic. As a filmmaker, I am especially eyeing the S5iiX for its features.
A7r5 fixes sony auto white balance, look into the skin tones on that body
TOTALLY AGREED AND GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE WHO AGREES..SONY SKIN TONES SUCK. CANON OKAY, NIKON SO SO. BUT PANNY? USUALLY JUST RIGHT.
@@martysender5539 Fuji's look good to me too, though I have not worked with their modern cameras.
@@martysender5539 Yup, it took me several camera purchases before I realized that about Panny too. The current S5 is stellar. Photo and video
Yes but are they the cameras that bring you back to Panasonic?
A GX85/GX9 replacement with their new AF system and their improved IBIS would be a very competitive camera against Sony APS-C cameras (ZV-E10 or A6400) for nonprofessional users! It might even be more appealing than the Sonys as Panasonic stabilization is much better 👍👍
Yes, GX9 mk2, thank you very much.
I've been usining GX9 for 4 yers, droped it in water and bought again - in 2023 it still pretty EDC/street camera! Want new sensor with PDAF, new OLED evf and 5-stop (or better) IBIS. It might be a perfect crop-camera ever!
GX85 user here! I think their best shot would probably be a G100 II or G200 with the new AF system and unlimited runtime. That would keep me from fully switching to Sony for sure. I recently sold my LX10 that I adored for a ZV-1 for the better focus and recording. I really hope 2023 is the year Panasonic needs to really claw back into main conention.
And weather sealing! Without weather resistance it's very limited, it could be best edc street camera, but it should had pdaf, weather sealing and better EVF!
@@JoseOnTheAir agreed a G100ii would be great.
I personally have 12-35mm f2.8 & 42.5mm on it and it’s all I need (except for the autofocus)
I have been waiting for a G9 and GX9 replacement with PDAF and more resolution.
Me too.
Currently my S5 is by far my favorite photo camera over my Sony or Nikon cameras even with the lack luster auto focus. I'll wait for the S5 IIX.
Yes, I'm also waiting for the S5IIx
What is it that you prefer about it?
@@ZachAshcraft The color science is stunning. I bought the S5 for video. I had no Idea the still side was going to be that good. No matter how much I tweak it in post, my Sony A7 III just doesn't look as good to my eye. That's why I skipped on the A7 IV. I just never really liked any photography from my Sony compared to my old Nikon D600. I had to force myself to use it. Now the S5 is even better.
I definitely like to see a Panasonic MFT body around OM5 size. Panasonic have not released such a small and capable body in years and I really want to see one with all innovations that Panasonic can offer.
Agreed. I’d love a g100 with g9 features and good AF
For us non professionals that still shoot regular weekly videos and use the same camera for photo - I can’t be more excited for a new G9 but if I ever go FF I definitely think it’ll be one of the Lumix offerings - I’m very impressed with the S5ii and everything Panasonic has done and the extreme long support Panasonic has given us for existing products.
I really want a G9ii as well. The S5ii is cool but I have already owned several full frame cams and the lens bulk is something I won’t go back to. My PanaLeica 8-18 and 50-200 are my bread and butter as a hobbyist and no other system can pull me away from those lenses.
i really want that focus limiter in current line of S series camera
For me, GX style bodies is M4/3 at its best. Still very small bodies, but with very good build quality, good amount of features, with great IBIS (important now that smartphones have very good night modes and whatnot). Street/travel/everyday carry (with pancake lenses) - all scenarios where ultimate image quality doesn't matter but better and more versatile glass compared to a smartphone comes in handy - and GX body excels in all of these. Pack it with the latest sensor, procesor and computational modes and it's gonna be great.
I know Lumix said they're done with the compact line but I would LOVE a new GX camera. The gx85 is awesome but with that larger sensor and PDAF, it would kill
A G9 replacement with Phase AF please !!! Even with 20 MPix, I don't care ! And yes bring us also replacement for the GX9 and GM5 with Phase AF !
I just cant wait for a Lumix G9 ii. It would be an instant buy.
For its form factor, I would like the GX9 to have a phase detect autofocus.
GX85 is now the only M43 camera I have. Would love to see a worthy upgrade path for this.
GM6 or GX9II (GX95). Either with an tilt all the way up screen for an eventual selfie. That is the only thing (together with PDAF) missing from my gx85 to be the perfect travel/casual camera. Any other improvements would be appreciated, of course.
I'm praying they make a GX7 Mk4. I'm rocking the GX85 (GX7 Mk2) right now.
S5ii is a legit tempting proposition now, especially at the competitive price. Also, I've always liked the feel of their full frame bodies; they are a bit chunky but they have are really good to hand-hold and use.
Would love to see micro 4/3 with this AF
Panasonic needs to refresh their lineup now. GH6 II, G9 II, GX8 II /w a tilt screen or perhaps a GX9 II with a much better EVF all with Phase Detect AF
Yes, they need to focus on MFT again, but unfortunately I don’t see this happening.
S5 always gave me much better day time videos, the highlight rolloff is much more pleasing than the Sony I have. This is giving them much broader appeal to video shooters.
I really hope they continue to kill it! My favorite cameras I've owned have been the G9, the GH5, and the GX85. Panasonic cameras are just really easy to use both physically and software-wise. As much as I love the images out of my A7RIV, I would switch back to Panasonic if their autofocus catches up
My thoughts exactly!
It has caught up. Their first try and they knocked it out of the park. Of course it will get firmware updates to improve.
G9 has full size hdmi! Hugely underrated
I love my G9!
Well said. I love my G9 and GX85 but the size and feel of G85 was fantastic too.
I hope this means a whole new era of success for Panasonic. I have loved their MFT cameras and lenses. I say Canon better rethink their no-third-party-lenses policy fast. I’m tempted to go back to a larger sensor and Canon was my intention, but the S5II is much more appealing to me. I’m also impressed at Panasonic’s realization that if they added PDAF after this long a wait it better be as good as, or better than anyone else’s PDAF. I might also go for a PDAF G9. Thanks gentlemen for your insights.
You’re absolutely right, Canon need to rethink a lot of things. Like including clog2 and all-i in their mid range hybrids. The S5II suddenly makes the R6II look underpowered and overpriced. And I say this as a Canon user.
I love micro 4/3, but committed to full frame for pro work because of pdaf and low light performance. Sensors are getting better all the time though. If Pany puts out a G9 replacement with pdaf, I’ll probably switch completely to micro 4/3.
Taking photos on a phone sucks. Give us a GM replacement with PDAF!
I think the combination of Panasonic's IS tech, evolving phase detect AF, and the option of lighter (S5 series) and bulkier (S1 series) of bodies can keep them alive. And if they continue to invest in their MFT systems with their great lens lineups with a high res option of bodies, even better.
I love my compact GX9. They should totally do another gen of these with that GH6 25MP MFT sensor. Perhaps even bifurcate it into a GX2M and a GX2L where the former uses a MFT mount, and the latter uses a L mount.
Imagine how chaotic their r&d department was for this decision.
Nah they are not Canon who had something to lose. Which is why the switch to mirrorless took so long and why Canon sensors generally do not reach competition levels
My guess is it wasn't chaotic at all. I think the decision might have been unanimous. The phase autofocus was long overdue
My guess is Sony didn't wanted them to use PDAF and refused to license it or asked to much. May be it was necessary to threaten with building a competing sensor technology and the GH6 finally helped to get PDAF-sensors. It is also possible they where just stubborn.
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch the DFD engineer was retired in 2021. 😛
@@Ulrich.Bierwisch according to some guys that went to tokyo and who talked to the engineers! Pdaf was in the work even before the first s5 release but they wanted to make sure they got a really good working system before release ( am guessing its how japanese are, always really proud of their work or they just prefer not to release the product if its alrdy a fiasco.
I would love to see a GX8, Mark 2 and a M43 rangefinder.
I really want a G9 successor with the new AF system. Please Panasonic! Make it happen!
Yeah, we want a G9MII 👍
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a G9II comes out. It's going to sell a ton.
A small body micro four third with the new technology, would be forever crowned the best street camera
I would love to upgrade my G9 to G9ii with modern 4/3-type sensor with PDAF!
But how are Panasonic’s sales? Camera biz is shrinking. Too little too late? Updated M43 travel cams would be great. Love my G9 but are any lenses PD capable? I would love to be able to keep my lens collection. G9II?
I would certainly go for an remade GF1 with the newest sensor tech. That's the camera that got me into m43 and I still have it lying around :)
Bring it to MFT!! I love the format and hope it doesn't die. But I have to admit, Panasonic's stubbornness when it came to phase detect autofocus was definitely testing my patience. I don't know where else I can get a 600mm ff equivalent lens that's only slightly larger than a soda can and prime lenses that are downright tiny.
If they release a GH6 II with phase detect I’m going to be so mad but I’ll preorder immediately.
I've been eyeing up a m43 rangefinder, but the current ones have too many limitations. I'm personally excited about a weather sealed gx8+ or Pen-F+, with some appropriately sized weather sealed lenses. Phase detect is a must though... My kids are fast
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lx100m3 with pdaf and a little more megapixels would be lovely, I'd buy that in a heartbeat
Absolutely. If they won't give us a full-featured GX10 with stuff the GX85/9 were missing like this new PDAF implementation, audio input, an updated BSI sensor, and maybe weather sealing (I'd accept a relative increase in size towards the GX8 form factor for these sorts of features), then a new LX100 with as many improvements as possible baked in would be the next best thing for me.
I was madly in love with my GF-1. Having a similar sized camera with PDAF (and maybe without 6k, 120fps, 4 channel audio and other advanced features) would be an absolute dream.
Lumix really should update the very capable GX80/85 line of smaller body rangefinder style bodies. All my GX80 needs is a faster processor to work with phase detect autofocus and weather sealing. It has everything else a family/hobby/enthusiast needs in their most compact proper camera that may be the only, or one of several cameras in their system or collection.
GF1/2 & GX1 form factor is even better! First: built-in EVF range-finder like suits right-eye dominant people. So an optional hot-shoe EVF which is tiltable is better. And makes the body itself cheaper.Having no tilt-screen make the camera slim (and cheaper). I can feel the difference while carrying a GF2 compared to a GF6 or Pen PL8 in my hand - which I do for hours...
This camera definitely put Panasonic on my radar given their impressive video control and encoding features. Like Jordan has said, shutter angle should be more wide spread as a way to control hybrid cameras. That said, I guess fast readout sensors are at least another generation ahead for most camera tiers. 😥
Also, maybe the next G100 series camera can actually be good for vlogging with PDAF and IBIS instead of marketing doing their thing. 🤣 Though it will likely be a more expensive tier of camera to get IBIS into it.
Panasonic looks like the perfect company now to totally control top level quality vlogging and other motion intense content creation.
DREAM CAMERA: GH6s, 12MP, IBIS, 48MP photo mode, Phase detection auto focus, 4K 240fps, gyro-based post stabilization like Sony and Black Magic just added. Please make it happen Panasonic!
I know that these are kind of niche products, but I personally would love to see updated BS1H and BGH1 box cameras from Panasonic with PDAF. I'm using my BGH1 for live streams, and a reliable phase detection autofocus would make this camera even better. But I do have hope, as Lumix Germany replied to my question regarding whether there will be successors to these box cameras next on Instagram with "who knows... 😁"
Great as always! I really want to keep using my MFT lenses, so I'm really hoping for an updated G9! 😍
8:41 - YES! Didn't miss the mark with this comment. I now want a GX95, with phase detect video!? I love my GX7, which I only bought a few months ago.... Amazing travel camera.
If Panasonic would create small camera 📷 for content creators with great video features it would be a Hit
I just want Panasonic to update the GX85 with this AF and maybe update the sensor.
I use Canon for everything, but a GX85 that could autofocus? That would be perfect. Or maybe even the LX100, with autofocus (that doesn't suck). I love FF but I want a small camera with good photo and video that isn't my phone. Please put in a good word....
Maybe they'll do a G10 (aka G9ii) to compete with the OM-1 since the OM-1 seems to be doing well sales-wisel. Personally, I'd like to see a GX10 (small body, stills oriented, rangefinder styled) with up to date AF, EVF and stabilisation. To me, the GX format really embodies the spirit of MFT.
I've still got a Panasonic G10 they launched it in 2010. So they would need to call it something else.
Really weird that they didnt put this PDAF into the gh6, would have made that camera so much more attractive
I really hope a new GX-Body with PDAF is in the making. I'd love a follow-up to the GX90 with a good viewfinder and proper vari-agnle display. But a real GX8 successor would also be great (although it should go more towards the GX90/80 sized body, I feel). Give it some nice video-features ala S5 II and you've got a winner right there, both as a Travel/Street-Photocamera as well as a killer B-Cam. With that OM-1 Sensor it could be a real jack-of-all-trades in a smaller body and wouldn't have to directly compete with OM-1.
Serious Film-makers could than always just get a cage for it and use the Hotshoe audio-jacks (which it should support ;))
If a new GX body was basically a gh5 mk II with PDAF on a gx85 size, it still would be the best entry camera out there. Just ditch the micro HDMI for at least a mini HDMI and keep the price below 800 dollars
As a left eye domintant I prefer either a centered EVF or better:as an option which is tiltable. I also found that a can live without using a tilt LCD - my Pen PL8 or GF6 are not so "handsome" compared to my GF2 because of their tilt screens.
Panasonic should focus on compact rangefinders as gx9 used to be. Update the viefinder, phase detect autofocus and put ina backlit illuminated 25mp sensor and I will buy it in no time inspite of having many other cameras because in terms of ergonomics it is still the best street photography camera in my opinion.
A Q3 with phase detect = awesome and an M with phase detect confirmation would be INSANE!
I'm a Fuji user and the Panasonic was the only FF intriguing me cause I've always found his image to be great, with amazing colours. Now that it provides this autofocus and given that the body costs basically as fuji X-H2, it may be really the time to jump on full frame... one day maybe
Yeah, Panasonic is also one of the other brands I would really consider for a video hybrid camera. X-T3 user here :)
H2 is really an excellent camera and cuts well in 8K with the A1.
A brand new G9 would be greatly welcomed
GM-style m43 camera with good IBIS, phase detect, great battery, web camera enabled, and all the good other stuff... One can dream, but in any case GM-style approach again would be amazing, but updated to current era.
I know the G100 was panned as the worst new camera of the year when it came out, but it's still the camera I use the most. I pair it with a 7artisan manual lens, 25mm f1.8 and it fits inside a jacket while offering great photo quality and a fun, retro shooting experience (Why not the Panasonic 25mm? Because it's twice as long, has no aperture ring and has awful focus-by-wire). And I can still carry the kit lens which is absolutely tiny. It's just such a neat little, light camera you can take anywhere while still offering all the basic features you might want. I hope Panasonic doesn't abandon the small, affordable m43 niche.
Thank you for the shout out for a G9 successor! Still loving the G9 and my tiny Leica lenses to go from 16-800 FF equiv.
Whenever I want a new camera I watch many video's but it's Jordans video review I rely on because he really nails what's important.
Been using a g9 for 3 years ,mainly shooting automotive and Motorsport stuff, switched to the S5 exactly 1 year ago ... Very impressed so far from what I've seen from the S5 MK2 but I think I wait for an s1 MK2 for faster burst , 4k120 no crop and so on... Also curious what firmware updates Lumix will bring to the S5 MK2 as we all know how it transformed the s1 back in the days to an almost s1h . But overall very happy for Panasonic, joined them in 2012 with an fz200, 2017 an fz1000 and 2018 a g9. I always thought people made the dfd system worse than it actually was. I shoot a lot of bikeracing stuff and if you know how to customize the sensitivity in the correct way and what focus modes to use, it actually works really really well
Shame there is no new Panasonic GX in the lineup. Loved that small bodied M4/3 range finder style.
very informative 10mins review on the S5 mk II
I had a panasonic as my first camera and it sucked that I had to go with an e-m1iii instead of a g9 for the phase detect when I upgraded. This s5ii is the first camera that's gotten me excited in a long time. I'm not going to rush to buy it because my current gear works fine, but given the kinda shaky position of om system right now this is 100% what I'd buy to replace my current setup if I needed to. Maybe it's more likely I'd buy a g9ii with phase detect though because I'd already have a bunch of lenses for it
Yes! I’m hoping for a G9 with PDAF, too.
Could listen to these guys all day.
Or what about a GX10 to steal some of the X100V groupies?
Great video as always guys from my favourite team...have you heard any talk about perhaps a G9 upgrade body or firmware updates for the G series?
I was about to sell all of my Panasonic gear to switch to Sony with the FX30, but the S5II announcement completely changed my plans and now I can continue to shoot what I'm comfortable with. With the 2nd S1H, if they could find a way to get to 15+ stops of DR, 6K60, and 4K120. 8K is still unnecessary for most mirrorless shooters, so I hope they prioritize DR and frame rates instead!
6k 60 and 4k 120 uncropped would be a dream...
I love the GM. Please please please
The S5 IIX will be my next camera purchase. It seems they've actually got PDAF mostly right on their first attempt. I'm already invested in L-mount so finally having useable auto-focus with video makes it a no-brainer for me.
They took their time lol
I would love a Panasonic GX-10 - very small weather sealed body with and upgraded slightly higher resolution M4/3 sensor (maybe 24 mpx) that has 4k/60 video capability, the new auto focus system and is priced at $1,000 (body only).
The S5 II is making me consider leaving my Sony A7IV. Sony never did it for me despite having great cameras and especially good AF. I just love the ergonomics and features of Panasonic bodies but was always on the fence due to the lack of PDAF. It's now finally no longer an issue.
The real difference now is lenses. Sony has availability while Panny has feature and ergonomics
@@jgaffney567 I would basically get the same setup I have with Sony, replacing my Tamron lenses with Sigma : Sigma 28-70 and 16-28 f2.8 + Panasonic 50mm f1.8. So not much difference for me as I was never into GM lenses.
@@daveoum8586 The real question is are you pro? Would you increase your bottom line by switching? Or do you have the means to switch financially just for the better feel ergonomics features.
@@jgaffney567 he doesn't know, he only want that new camera
To me, Panasonic cameras (mft and l mount) were already great before. They already have a great feature set. Now, with pdaf, it’s ofc even better.
Would love to see a BGH2 with the GH6 sensor and phase detect implemented 🤞
A year and some months ago I've switched from Sony, Nikon and Fuji to one camera system - Panasonic S1R. It is a fantastic camera! It's IQ is unprecedented and is extremely close to MF cameras! That 47Mp sensor gives extremely nice photos! I hope S1r gets its continuation! I'll wait for it.
Still using a G9 and I am really excited to see what the next one brings to the table!
FF GX9 styles camera. Come on Panasonic…Do it!
I think Panasonic should get FOCUSED on the S and GH line primarily, and possibly a successor of the G9. But they should basically focus on hybrid FF cameras and MFT video-focused bodies.
I recently owned a S5 and I'm loving it. While I'm a manual focus shooter, I would love to get my hands on the S5II/S5IIX, but for now, I'm gonna keep my S5, and wait for the right moment. Now that Panasonic actually can bring a good competitive AF to their bodies, only wild things can happen from now on.
Finally we will see Panaboy getting an interesting fight with Sony, Canon and Nikon. Olympus and Fuji are on their own leagues.
Would personally like to see a big S1R upgrade, something to really rival the A7RV, no reason they shouldn't anymore!
My hope for the S1 , ( stills only), is the new autofocus tech in a 37 to 40 m.pixel sensor but same image quality, same ergonomics, better weather selling on bodies and lenses, that would be spot on for me.
Keep up with the fantastic job you guys, thank you.
GM1 or the GX850 line with PDAF would be a game changer for me. A pocket rocket with the 12mm, 14mm, or 17mm? Yes.
GM1 did lack the click wheel of the GF1/2 or GX1. Bet they could have included that or a lever which emulares the wheelin conjunction with a button to switch the levers function - but it was a marketing decision not to do so.... . But I agree:: Pana has NO clue how many people want their SMALL bodies back. Should just take a look at ebay prices for those who have a LCD in near mint condition...
@@kaptnwelpe5322 even fujifilm doesn't know how much we want small cameras back. And they pretend they're the small camera people. Upgrade my X70 to an X70S or even bring the X-M1 back, at least. I wish Canon wouldn't abandon the M6II and M200 body also.
I do hope that Panasonic will offer a true replacement with all the features of the GX8 plus hybrid autofocus.
I've seen a lot of people hoping for an s5iiR. It would probably blow the cost up but if you could get a stacked 33mp sensor on there capable of 15fps mechanical burst, 8k video, and give it a tilty screen and upgraded evf - think you'd have a real hit especially paired with 150-600 for sports or that ultra sharp 85 1.8 for portraits.
Interesting. Thanks guys. As a S5 owner I was just wondering if we’re going to get any significant improvements from the firmware updates or not ?
Sadly after years and years (and years) of Panasonic cameras we switched to the Sony A1. AF, IS, 8K all perfect. Hoping Panasonic will build the 8K and the AF, they have the IS.
Just had a weekend doing sports photos and the S5 doubles the keepers from what the GH5 would manage. So much more dynamic range too. S5ii is definitely another move in the right direction.
I put in a pre-order for the S5ii and purchased a set of lenses for it. I have a G9, G85, GX8 and all the major m43 zoom lenses including the Pany-Leica 8-18, 12-60, 100-400 and even an Oly 75mm 1.8 prime. I'll be selling them off to make the switch to full frame S system. The new phase detect autofocus AND full frame sensor image quality is too good to pass up. I'm planning on using the new gear on a trip to Tokyo this spring to hopefully photograph peak sakura. Very excited about this switch and the new camera even though I'm sad to be letting go of my trusted m43 gear.
Put phase detect on gh5, and I’ll use it for my house hold videos.
I really liked micro 4/3, just not the focus.
That’s pretty much why I’m with Fuji/Sony
For sure. If they release GH6s, BGH2, S2H and BS2H with Phase-detect; That will make a BIG dent in the current Canon/Sony domination.
Canon got saved by their lens ecosystem. Everyone has a 24-405L in their drawer...
Sony got saved by their auto-focus. Not by their color science for sure...
But LUMIX is the only one I really feel that goes by the Kaizen philosophy. Design and quality. Now that they got PDAF, it's game time again.
Switched from Canon to Panasonic since the 2014 GH4. Never looked back. While 90% of my competitors moved to Sony or Canon in the last 5 years hypnotized by the auto-focus craze, I stuck with Pany. The image quality I get from BGH1 and BS1H is unrivaled. Auto-focus was never a pain point in my line work. In advertising and Corporate film, we rarely, if ever, auto-focus. BUT it has it's use for sure. And in the next 2 years, you'll see lots of movements...
I would have considered the G85 the perfect camera (for everything I do at least) if it had this kind of autofocus. What do you guys think the odds are of Panasonic bringing the new AF tech down to a new G85 or G7 model?
Can’t wait to see what’s in stored for the next Leica SL cameras.
Cool video as always! It would be exciting to see what you guys think the S5 II means for the competition. What will Sony and Canon offer in their next cameras to stay on top? As an owner of 3 A7Siii and 2 A7iv cameras, I certainly hope they will start implementing new features in firmware updates to the flagship models.
I am considering the S5iix. What lens would you recommend would be best for *video* with this camera? Thanks!
I adore the S1 for stills. I have an S5 as well for when I need to take a lighter camera out but I’m not in love with it and I’m not moved by the S5 mkII like many people seem to be- even as a “sports/ action” photographer I find the current autofocus system fine to be honest. I’ll definitely get an S1 mkII when they bring one out though.
When the S series was first launched Panasonic were all about huge, serious, no compromise cameras and lenses but aimed more at the working pro than the luxury market Leica go for. Since that first year, with the exception of the BS1H, they’ve released nothing but compact bodies and unexciting plastic lenses for L Mount. I would love to see a return to their initial approach once these new S5s are out.
a gx85 with PDAF & flip screen...would love it
Thanks for the review. I think m43 is going to be a struggle to improve upon, since the two things people seem to want most in m43 (higher resolution AND better low light perfrormance) are traditionally antagonistic.
Not true even thoufh they have flaws one of the highest selling camera that higher end mid end is the gh5 Panasonic so idk if ur correct, go check out the Gh5s and tell me low light isn’t ok on micro4/3
thing is, you dont really need high resolution. a7siii shows that 12MP is plenty. put 12mp in the next m43 and low light might be a decent bit better. half the pixels means twice as much are per pixel, so a full stop better than current gh6.
edit: i just realized youre in real estate. if you have to make do with whatever light there is on site, then i understand why you want FF
@@Shuttterbugg The GH5S is only 10.2MP and is thus the OPPOSITE of higher resolution. Remember that I said m43 users want BOTH higher resolution AND improved low light performance. Not just one.
@@bluecollar8525 I agree with you that 12MP is often more than enough. I am often tempted to pick up a GH5S (with the 10.2MP sensor), but haven't done so because the lack of PDAF and lack of IBIS (and the deals on the ORIGINAL S5 are just to crazy to ignore). As for m43, I am just saying what a lot of m43 users seem to want (BOTH high resolution AND improved low light performance). When the OM-1 was released, a lot of users complained that it was still the same 20MP sensor resolution. Not my opinion, but what a lot of m43 users on different forums said.
Nope. MFT is THE camera system it is easiest to improve upon. Why? People want cameras which are small, inexpensive and fun to use while not sacrifying features or user interface. Just imagine a weather sealed GX1 containing a b/w sensor with phase AF... PERFECT street photograhpy tool - would sell like hot cakes. PS: I don"t get it that LEICA isn"t making such a line in colour and b/w. Bet the most sold lenses having Leica written on them are MFT...
As a long time fan of Panasonic, G7, G9, S5 I guess I can say, welcome to the party. I won’t be upgrading anytime soon. Nothing i do really counts on phase AF or open gate but in a couple years I’ll look forward to getting version 2 when they go on sale as version 3 gets released. Same as the deal i got with S5 as they were trying to get rid of that stock. These are great cameras.
Hopefully! 🤞 Finally getting with the times and competition by integrating PDHAF. Been with Panny since the GH2 and have a massive collection of small compact lenses suited for the MFT system, which for me is the key selling point of the system. I don't care about shaving off a few mm of a camera body, that's only hurting ergonomics and what you can do with the camera performance (heat especially) and connectivity/usability (e.g. full sized HDMI-port). Give me a nice camera like the G9 or even S-series with all the ergos and functions, but the real challenge is packing your bag with lenses to bring along and then stuff like the Leica 15mm f/1.7 is just insane. Panasonic MFT just needs a little more lowlight performance and obviously better C-AF, then I don't have to give in and make the fullframe switch. Interestingly JVC had that one GY-LS300 camera with MFT-mount and APS-C sensor. That might make a whole lot of sense for Panasonic to explore as well, that gave some very cool video options with custom crops and so on. Whatever happened to organic sensors as well, that was like all the talk 3 or more so years ago... still think there's so much potential and paths to go! Let's hope they're finding it worthwhile to explore.