"Poor Things" Did What "Barbie" Thought It Did
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2024
- Both failed to fully discuss Imperialist White Supremacist Heteropatriarchy (e.g. no centering Black women or WOC). BUT, one was more prepared to tackle the topic in a creative, less basic way.
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I saw both movies and when I left the theater I said out loud, "This is what Barbie should have been like."
you get it 😁‼️
But how can you make that statement without actually watching both films?
In the video I mentioned that the clips in trailers/social media basically told me what the Barbie movie wanted to say (its message). And based on that already I felt they told too much. Watching the "Poor Things" trailers doesn't give you any hint about message being delivered, but when you watch it all in context it packed a greater punch IMO.
@@leadinglikealady I would argue that's still not properly informed statement. I am very excited about seein "Poor Things" for months now, but I am afraid that me being a minority is one of the issue of the movie being better in delivering message than "Barbie".
@@leadinglikealadybut you didn’t watch the movie?
@@leadinglikealadyI don’t think that the Barbie trailers did the movie justice. I think it’s odd to compare two movies when you have only seen one. You need context to get a message. Poor Things was a beautiful film, but a lot of the scenes made me very uncomfortable with all of the sex, considering that she was a child. And so much of the film was centered around her having sex.
Oh, so you were talking about the trailers, gee... Sorry for the speech, then; my bad.@@leadinglikealady
But you have not watched both movies?
You say Barbie’s dialogue was cringe in the clip, but since you haven’t watched the film you don’t realise that she’s not being genuine, she’s lying to him. It’s very much intentional.
Good to know! Thanks for sharing :-)
Dawg you really made a video comparing two movies… but didn’t even watch one of them lol smh
Bro, I watched them both and I agree with her.
@@nellievaughn7755 irrelevant but okay
I hope you redo this after watching Barbie because just only watching one fully and then only basing the other from clips isn't a good approach.
sure, I'll post an update once I watch "Barbie" ;-)
There should definitely be an in depth comparison of the two films. It's such a shame that this was not it. Please watch Barbie and proceed to compare the two.
will do
lets be honest Ryan as ken was the show stopper of the movie and that is why he gets nominated
I won't know until the movie is on Netflix or something lol! But interesting thought
Poor Things is just Barbie but made by and for man
Tell me more - what makes you think it was made for men? And was it made to show men where they need to improve or to encourage men to continue as they are?
@@leadinglikealadyWell, it provided a male -friendly, reductive view of feminism that aligned with male desire. "Men, you don't have to feel gross about sexualizing very naive women because you are liberating them and educating them about life!
Do people really think Poor Things was feminist? In what world?
Both Barbie and Poor Things are the journey of a beautiful, innocent woman through a real world where she knows the suffering that exists outside her bubble. Both protagonists seek their freedom, to be themselves far from meeting the expectations that their creators have imposed. If Poor Things is not feminist, I think Barbie is not either.
You should do as many videos on Poor Things as you see fit. There is so much to talk about.
I really liked Poor Things but as fascinating as Bella Baxter is her journey for which there is a lot to take and live by. But is also an almost impossible one. Bella is set up as a special one. Even her copycat made by “God” doesn’t develop the way she does under the same circumstances. Bella is smart and special but her baby, clean slate brain doesn’t understand social rules or why follow them. She finds her own path in her blissful ignorance but determined and courageous personality, even finds pleasure as a sex worker adapting methodical ways to embrace sex, which felt so unrealistic to me, specifically by how strange, masochistic, even pedophilic, and sometimes unattractive men who use her are. Nothing creates a trauma reaction in her expect briefly seeing poor people starving to death.
I find the journey of Barbie more relatable, someone bored with routine to the point of meeting an existential crisis and accepting a less perfect but more real and something we all go through. The question of whether what’s my purpose if someday I’m facing death and I’m everyday growing older in a society that deams me progressively obsolete as I age.
You should do a video on Poor Things.
I totally get that people are making loads of comparisons about these two movies but I think that they’re both so different and set out to explore different things to different audiences and I really think you should see both films in full before discrediting Barbie. Personally I just didn’t see Poor Things as a feminist movie mostly because I don’t think that you can take a book written by a dude turned into a movie written by a dude (as hilarious and brilliant a dude as he may be) and directed by a dude about a women’s experience and call it earnestly feminist. I think poor things had feminist undertones but I saw it more as a movie about becoming a person unashamedly and falling in love with life and the world. I preferred poor things as well but I thats in part because of my own aesthetic preferences and I still think Barbie is an incredibly well made movie that did its best to be thoughtful and apt given the fact that it was made in part by Mattel and had to cater to a younger audience as well as an older one. Definitely worth the watch, yes it’s cornier than something like poor things but making a movie more accessible to younger audiences and non-cinephiles doesn’t make a film worse!!!
I agree with the premise of your video but I don't respect that you did it without seeing the two movies.
Barbie didn't see race at all but still included diverse characters, that's called not having racism, which should be good about the movie but apparently it's not. It was a comedic movie that still showed a purpose. There's a reason why it won't sweep the Oscars: It's a comedy movie. That will never change. But it's still a good funny movie that does portray a message. You really have to watch the movie to be able to make this statement.
If anything’s it’s giving colourblind and just so lazy
The movie added a bunch of one dimension characters of colour whose experiences are not represented in barbie
Obviously I didn’t expect barbie to really highlight feminism in a nuanced way but come on. This is not a win it’s just lazy and it’s giving ‘we had women if colour so it’s inclusive and representative’
And barbie is a comedy but so is poor things and it won 8 Oscar’s poor things took a more comedic and theatrical approach it’s still white feminism but was better than barbie and had a more fleshed out cast even though it wasn’t as diverse
Barbie was just a hype movie I believe a cheap movie about feminism but only adding one myopic perspective on it
Kinda of harsh but that’s the truth, would go to say that it showed men’s issues better with the whole Ken song
In my countryman’s movie the heroine lives her life tackling bad men, but meeting good men as well. Not all men are toxic and inferior. There’s patriarchy in the film, but no verbal mention of it. The movie is very good and communicates its messages exactly because it’s not preachy and the protagonist is not a caricature as she seems in the beginning.
I'm going to point out what so many other have already. You can't actually review a movie without watching the movie. It's a shame because you put up a good title and you got me to click on it but as soon as you said you haven't watched the movie I don't really want to bother listening to what you have to say, so I'm clicking off if it.
Hey Jared! This channel is not primarily a pop culture channel, and frankly, I made this video to give quick thoughts about a great movie I saw while deciding whether I should invest time in watching another to make a longer video on this topic. Based on the attention this video is getting, I'm considering making a longer in-depth analysis video on both movies once I've watched "Barbie". Until then, please invite any women of color you know looking for professional development advice to watch my other videos, like these: czcams.com/play/PLb44dDjsH2aNxxAwniAb1NBqI_NYqZwqL.html
You should definitely watch the whole flick; it feels really different than a bunch of clips. I get your point, Poor Things is a daring masterpiece; there`s no denying it, and they clearly achieved their goal. So did Barbie, the biggest box office of the year. Barbie broke so many conventions, both in form and in "content," AND managed to be extremely commercial (despite the far-right men-children fundamentalist's loud cry; it actually helped it). There were far more layered nods to our society's status quo and rap shee..., I mean, History than meets the eye, granted. Cheers!!!
While watching Poor Things I was like "this is barbie but on acid" lol
Trash take especially since you didn't bother to watch Barbie and have no intention of watching it
Just on the title- agreed.
Barbie is sweet regurgitation; moving; but not new.