Europe's First Civilization: the Vinča Culture
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Over 8,000 years ago, the first farmers of Europe moved into the fertile lands of the central Balkans. These people would develop complex societies and advanced technologies, as well as sophisticated artistic and ritual practices expressed in part through astonishing ceramic figurines. They were cattle herding crop growing farmers who lived in large settlements and they also developed the first metal working in Europe.
They may also have been warriors, waging war with stone maces and copper axes on their enemies. And they may have developed the earliest writing anywhere in the world. This is the incredible story of Europe’s first civilisation - the Vinča Culture.
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Video Chapters
00:00 The Vinča Culture
01:10 Sponsorship
02:31 the First Farmers
03:51 Early Vinča and Vinča-Belo Brdo
06:26 Vinča houses and settlements
08:38 Vinča burials and DNA
10:06 Vinča figurines
12:48 Vinča metallurgy
14:24 Vinča symbols - the first writing?
15:57 Vinča fortifications and warfare
18:29 Vinča warrior figurines
21:23 the Vinča legacy
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check Lepenski Vir which is older and aprox as old as Gobekli teppe. Vinca is continuation of it. ty.
Lepenski Vir was initially a Mesolithic Hunter Gatherer site. Although they did begin mixing with Neolithic farmers, Vinca is not a continuation of it.
@@DanDavisHistory it is, and very close to Vinca too,geographically speaking. just continuation after some natural disaster or invasion-migration, with changed culture. genetics. hunter gat. are I and you can see it in Vinca as well. lepenski vir is older therefore mesolithic, vinca is slithly younger therefore neolithic. but the I is found in paleo meso and neo alike. the missing link preserving culture and adopting new habits. furthermore, you have I2c graves in Turkey as a connection link. check eupedia.
The Stone Age is divided in three distinct periods: the Paleolithic Period or Old Stone Age (30,000 BCE-10,000 BCE), the Mesolithic Period or Middle Stone Age (10,000 BCE-8,000 BCE), and the Neolithic Period or New Stone Age (8,000 BCE-3,000 BCE)
this is about not telling the world the real Israelites are Serbs (I haplogroup). this includes both I1 and I2, meaning Scandinavian countries and Slavic as well. changing of history.
I have an interest in the Rhaetian or proto-Rhaetian peoples and early peoples of Tyrol area such as Otzi, who spoke a pre-Indo-European language, and wonder of a connection to the Terramare of the Po River and/or the Neolithic Farmers, the early farmers and any cultures they developed are my principal interest.
Another masterpiece. Thank you. I'd like a narrative on the origins of the Etruscans, and their wars with Carthage.
There's thick then there's THICK. These Vinca gentlemen strike me as individuals of most refined taste.
I believe the technical term is “Men of Culture.”
I know pre history has us feeling al these fuzzy warm tingly emotions, however, let's not become to "down bad"
Neolithicccc
seems the more primitive a society is, the more they prefer the rear to the front. losing our baculum which allowed for face-to-face mating may have been one of the most important leaps forward in our psychological/sociological evolution
that said.....GYAAT
I knew this comment would be here 😂
I found two Vinca figurines last year while fieldwalking in my area. One is a Y-shaped abstract anamorphic form, considered an amulet, it probably hung by a string in a house. The second is a much more realistic female figure made of blackened clay with her hands on her hips. Both are now at the local museum. I work with archaeologists here to make 3D reconstructions of cultural sites and objects and we're planning on reconstructing a Vinca village in the near future.
Fascinating story. Thank you for your input.
Where is "your area"?
@@chonqmonk NE Serbia.
Very cool!
Mulțumesc Andre!!
A civilization older than Mesopotamia and Egypt itself. Historians and Scientist need to focus more on this one.
They won't cause it would reshape Balkan history against their established revisionist history. The area is still contested, so they find no reason to research the truth.
@@Bionickpunk It would reshape the history in total. The vinca culture is a good proof that the ancient greeks “recieved” culture & civilization not only from egypt but from europe also.
@@JohnnyWalker1077Dude everyone came from Africa. Tribes were passing down these stories since they left. It wouldn't change anything.
@@Allyourheroswenttohell You can’t be more clueless lol.
The oldest homo sapiens remains have been found in africa and they date back to 200.000 bc, yes.
Also, history is not THAT simple bud. Much happened, especially in europe. I suggest you start researching a bit more.
@@JohnnyWalker1077 The first Europeans were literally dark skinned. Blue eyes didn't develope in white people. It was a gradual process. Race is not real.
Hello from starčevo.. They litteraly found the archeological finding about 500 m from my house..
@@forestdweller5581 there is guarantee something.. The farmers in the fields around are finding things all the time, small shatters from clay vessels all over the place
@@MrRobiL Theres always the chance of treasure
Vinca is part of Belgrade - Serbia.
Serbs, the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest alphabet and the oldest calendar - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla, M.Pupin, M.Milankovic, M.Anstein......
Djokovic, Jokic, Doncic and many excellent athletes.
Starcevo - Srbija .
@@goranstojic5791while i love the hype i cant say i agree man...serbs settled in the balkans in 6th century. So while its an old nation its not quite as old as neighbouring Bulgaria...so that statement right off the bat would be false. Oldest calendar? Depends who the source is i cant really find this anywhere online other some battle in kosovo being documented as 6xxx year. Send me this please if you have proper proof. Only thing close to this claim and is recognized to some degree (by the scum that spin history always) was the one from vinkovci. Again the alphabet...where are you finding this information?
Greetings from Serbia! happy to see you cover Vinča.
why? serbians werent a thing until 9th century AD. Vinca have nothing to do with todays serbians. They could be related to greeks and albanians though that have been in the balkans for thousands of years.
@@montana3918I think you are forgetting that serbs and other slavs actually mixed with these ancient people, in fact south slavs have the least amount of slavic dna out of the three slavic groups.
@@montana3918 The guy literally just greeted from Serbia, who the heck even mentioned anything about relations with serbians? Read the comment and get your s*** together and stop spreading stupidity on the internet.
Btw albanians mentioned from 11th centry and south slavs from 6-7th centruy when they migrated, how can albanians be related?
@@velicko.engineer cause he gives "proud" vibes by greeting from serbia as if serbs had anything to do with this ancient culture. They came thousands of years after the illyrians (albanians) and greeks into the balkans so yeah just clearifying that serbs came from the north and occupied balkan lands from the get go.
@@montana3918 albanians and Illyrians aren't the same...wild tribe brought by Turks from Caucasus
Archeologist : discovered statues with odd facial feature
History Channel : "Alien!"
Archeologist : discovered statues with odd facial feature
History Channel : "Alien!"
Netflix: "Dogon!"
What if both are right? It’s just a statue of a particularly ugly ahh alien? 🤔
To su bili vanzemaljci vanzemaljciiiiiiiiiii
@@etoeto6754 Istina 😎
Vinca is part of Belgrade - Serbia.
Serbs, the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest alphabet and the oldest calendar - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla, M.Pupin, M.Milankovic, M.Anstein......
Djokovic, Jokic, Doncic and many excellent athletes.
Hello Dan! Greetings from Sibiu (Romania)! Tărtăria-Gura Luncii, Alba county ( the infamous incised clay tablets, with symbols, were discovered here in 1961-the autumn campaign, by prof. Nicolae Vlassa-long story...), is indeed a complex prehistoric archaeological site (in recent studies there were identified elements of fortifications-ditches and palisade postholes-Luca 2016, „Tărtăria Rediviva”). Now, I'm studying for a master's degree at „Lucian Blaga” University of Sibiu (Department of History and Heritage Studies). The main subject of my Bachelor Thesis was about lithic industry (polished/ground and knapped stone tools) from Tărtăria. In 2021 and 2022 (summer campaigns), I have taken part in archaeological excavations here and I can assure all of you that, Vinča female clay figurines, are very THICC ;)!!!
I'm pleased to see, that there is interest for the complex Neo-Eneolithic cultures in this part of Europe! Your high-quality documentaries contributed a lot to my passion for prehistory, so keep up the good work.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing! I'm wondering why are you calling these clay tablets ‘infamous.’ Did you simply misspoke, meaning ‘famous‘, or is there a story behind them, like their being a forgery or something along these lines? But Dan would have certainly mentioned if their authenticity were questioned... Just in case, ‘infamy’ is a bad kind of fame, when someone or something is well-known but for something bad. We can say ‘Famous violin player’ but 'infamous mass murderer’.
English is weirdly inconsistent at times: for instance ‘inflammable’ and ‘flammable‘ mean the same thing, a quality of being easy to ignite, and the opposite is ‘non-flammable’. :)
@@cykkmhe did say 14 minutes in that both the meaning of the tablets and their authenticity is disputed.
@@xKinjaxWas nice to read this - we need more people from the recent generations going into such fields otherwise the future is doomed 💀😩 good look with your studies!
@@xKinjax the clay tablets were carbon dated in university of sorbonne so their authenticity is not disputed funny but some hungarians who live nearby still using some symbols when their writting
the world's earliest known form of writing is from a hungarian speaker village ... the7000years old Tatárlaka/Tartaria tablets ...
and the local transilvanian hungarian use that letters/symbols at least 600years
Balkans are such a fascinating place when you consider how many cultures thrived there. Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, Slavs all left their mark. And among all those, we dig even deeper and find even more. Vinca is so cool, I wish we knew more
Edit: Balkan people arguing in the comments are all living in Germany...
Illyrian here 😎
Vinca is part of Belgrade - Serbia.
Serbs, the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest alphabet and the oldest calendar - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla, M.Pupin, M.Milankovic, M.Anstein......
Djokovic, Jokic, Doncic and many excellent athletes.
Vinca is part of Belgrade - Serbia.
Serbs, the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest alphabet and the oldest calendar - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla, M.Pupin, M.Milankovic, M.Anstein......
Djokovic, Jokic, Doncic and many excellent athletes.
@@goranstojic5791 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂here we go, number #1 of "the chosen" people 🤣😂
@@goranstojic5791 And nowadays you're part of the idiots of europe, along with Hungary, good job :))
Greetings from Serbia!!👏👏👏
20:26 The way those "idols" were arrayed on their platform, they definitely look like game pieces. 3 groups of six, 3 groups of 3, all with an equal amount of similarly shaped pieces per like-numbered group, and a single group with 8. Fascinating look and leaves a strong impression of a chess-like game.
I immediately thought of “toy” soldiers. Growing up, I spent hours with my cousins playing “army”.
@@phil2u48 - That was definitely my other thought. Only the matching numbers/groups of them made me wonder whether a game of some sort. Being hand-made, there may not have been a reason to have such matching groups if they were meant to be toys. Unless they were traded away to others in such groups, perhaps. Hmm.
@@NefariousKoel won't be surprising (looking at warhammer 40k units price)
The idea that they may have been game pieces is an intriguing one. Ancient people were no less intelligent than modern people and there's no reason they couldn't have developed a game like chess or backgammon. Because they were farmers, they needed some way to pass the time during the winter and a sophisticated game would have been just the ticket. Alas, we'll probably never know for certain what the figurines were used for.
I read a paper about the figures, thag speculates it was for strategising. Because the figures were really quickly and shoddily made in comparison to their level of technology, that they needed to lay down some strats in urgency :)
The fact that many of the Vinca inscriptions are similar to those found in Linear A of Crete should be taken into account before dismissing the possibility of representing writing. It's also worth noting that other writing forms, like cuneiform, started as pictograms for trade items as well.
Yeah, but IF they were modern artifacts misrepresented as historical, the guy who made them ALSO knew of the Liner A inscriptions.
They are 2000 years older than the Cretan ones
@@user-xc6co3ur2v That's why they are so significant.
At time when Vinča existed greeks didn't existed, so please keep your lies for yourself. Greeks exist maybe 2000 years b.c. while Vinča is at least twice older.
@@miloscarapic4502 What lies are you accusing me off, mate? You can look at the similarites between both scripts if you really are interested. Linguists have discussed the similarities too. Did it ever occur to you that new writing forms are build of older writing forms?
Your videos helped me develop some prehistoric fantasy settings my players are absolutely fascinated by. Thank you for your work!
Very cool!
I bet copper pieces have a better exchange rate than platinum pieces in your game.
@@bluebird3281 A copper axe or mace would cost at least its weight in copper pieces, plus extra for labor and incidentals (charcoal for forge, maintenance of tools, etc.). Assuming D&D 5e system, a mace would be minimum 200 copper.
@@AlbertaGeek I have a high DEX I would rogue that @#$% and sell it back to them for two goats.
Please, which game is that? Thx in advance!
I am from Serbia where this culture was created and there is still a village of vinca
Yes, Vinca is continuing civilization from Lepenski vir civilization and Starcevo civilization.
Vinca civilization did not come from Anatolia like he said
Glad to see more and more videos on the Neolithic Balkans. The Vinca and Varna cultures are fascinating and I still play the Varna video to my students sometimes! Greetings from Bulgaria.
Никакъв привет за тия мърши сърбите,били най правите и първите!?!
Ще горят в българският Ад!
Казах!
The Vinca culture is a group I have been fascinated with for a long time - in fact, it was learning about them which got me very interested in European pre-history, which lead to an interest in Indo-European studies. In one of my stories, I wrote a sorceress who was born in the Vinca culture, but survived to present day - she provides a good excuse to learn more about this fascinating people.
Vinca, Lepenski Vir, Starcevo - Serbia - the origin of European culture.
Serbs are the oldest nation of Europe, the first alphabet - the oldest calendar in the world - 7533. year. Serbia had access to 3 seas, now it has no access to the sea.
From Serbia and the Serbs, somewhat of a country and a nation emerged - now they are the biggest enemies of the Serbs.
Yes! finally a video on the Vinca culture ;)
Yes it's been requested ever since I started the channel. Sorry it took me so long.
@@DanDavisHistory it's alright 👍, thank you for your hard work
@@DanDavisHistory It's worth waiting for the quality you bring to the table.
From Serbia🇷🇸
@@DanDavisHistory If some corporations come to us, then sorry on you. The video is great, but as I said.
Didn't realise that the statuets represented masked individuals. Fascinating.
That's just a theory.
A Vinca theory!
Proof that masks work. TAKE YOUR Vaccines!
I've been asking historians for a video about these guys forever and ever and ever and now you finally did one thank you I tell everyone the oldest civilizations in Europe not the Middle East
😊❤
We in Serbia have older civilization then Vinca. It was Starcevo and Lepenski vir civilization then Vince civilization.
Vinca civilization did not come from Anatolia. It is continued civilization from Lepenski vir and Starcevo
I think a video like this was really needed. I always see this culture get referenced but never anything focusing entirely on them. always glad to see one of your uploads
If you dig deep into the archive, you will realize that from Crete to Kiev, and from Zagreb to Burgas, there lived people speaking the same language, with the same customs and gods, before the Greeks arrived.
Macedonians didn't arrive for shore !
There isn't bigger settlement in Balcan than Ohrid (Lihnid) Forthrees is .
It was fortification against Greeks !
In our old saying "Gorki" the bitter invaders from the South .
What was that language?
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733
The culrure was European !
If invaders from South ( now retrogradly called Greeks ) gave culture to Europe , than culture of Europeans should have been called
Indo/Greek culture ,
not as it is called officially
Indo/ European culture today , besides old languages before Indo Europisation ( Etrurian , Katalonian , Finnish ,
Macedonian and etcr , which are today extinct .
"Greek culture" which is written as history on CZcams for children cannot compete to Mesopotamia culture which was spread to River Danube in Europe !
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733 The so-called Slavic, of the seven "Slavic tribes", is actually the language of the Thracian family, which includes over 200 kingdoms.The most interesting thing is, why does Google not want to translate the names of the biggest of them???? Wow. I will try to write them - Mysians,Getae,Masagetae,Peonians,Scytyans,Macedonian, Ilirians,Tevcrians,P/B/elasgian,P/B/hrigian and many more.
@@stickemuppunkitsthefunlovi4733The name Thracians/in later times-Slavs/ was given by foreigners, just as the Indians in the USA were given a common name.
It's great to see another video on an ancient culture that don't usually get much attention.
Great video. Their burning of their homes remind me of the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture. I wonder why so many prehistoric groups did that.
I wonder..disease control?
Pests, rats and other animals in the thatch easier to build a new one than get them out
Extreme house cleaning!
I imagine that it began with mold and pest control, but it becomes a strong psychological ritual, the destruction of the old and the construction of the new as an act of physical and spiritual renewal/death and rebirth of a community.
Maybe an insurance scam
some of the ceramic figurines are so reminiscent of jomon dogu from japan
This Sunday, I visited the National Historic Museum in Sofia, and I saw very similar artifacts from 6000+ BC but probably from another culture because they were found along the coast of the Black Sea (near Durankulak, Dobrich province). It was fascinating. There was gold jewelry too, probably some of the oldest ever. Visiting this museum is a must if you're in the area of Sofia.
Vinca, Lepenski Vir, Starcevo - Serbia - the origin of European culture.
Serbs are the oldest nation of Europe, the first alphabet - the oldest calendar in the world - 7533. year. Serbia had access to 3 seas, now it has no access to the sea.
From Serbia and the Serbs, somewhat of a country and a nation emerged - now they are the biggest enemies of the Serbs.
@@milicgordana7935Of course there’s a shallow serb here explaining how a culture which lived in the same region but more than 5000 years ago is somehow serbia and the people were serbian, you’re so brainwashed its funny, so can we Bulgarians claim the Thracians as our direct ancestors, as well as the Vinca culture, after all it was in Bulgaria as well. We have almost nothing in common with those ancient cultures, yet you fail to acknowledge this, claiming everyone who set foot on your land as your direct ancestor, pathetic.
@@milicgordana7935Нещо си объркал рейса,глупав сервин!
Най стария календар е българския и е признат от ЮНЕСКО!
Най старото злато в света е българското край Варна!
И знаеш ли вие море нямате ,ама сте били на 3?????
Обаче България е била на 3?
Тази московска зараза ви е хванала отдавна,обаче ние пак ви хванахме в лъжа!
Нещо да кажеш,а педал ?
Върнете ни западните територии,че нема ви се молим много!
Цигани такъв!
Thats because Serbs use to live there too. All the neighboring countries of today are a modern day creations on ancient Serbian lands that mostly were made thanks to Vatican parasites killing Serbs and brainwashing their children. It has been done since Vatican exist. If you look at every European country or "nation" they all have Serbian roots from culture to words but they all don't know where it comes from, while Serbs do use these and used them before any of these existed.
Vinča site near Belgrade will be soon reconstructed and vastly improved, it is not in a state such important location deserve.
Renoviran je i otvoren sad u 2024 se može posetiti. Pozdrav. 😊
Before Vinca we have older civilization Starcevo and Lepenski vir civilization.
@@user-zw9sz9xd6g završena je tek prva faza, sanacija klizišta, do 2025 treba ostalo.
Thank you for following up on the Vinca culture!
As always, well done. I enjoy your take as a writer combined with your extensive research, it allows for speculation and analysis that’s a bit more cutting than what a historian or archeologist can put out there. Thanks for some quality content.
too bad speculations in this video are heard as it was a fact .
The Vinča culture is unique and very interesting. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for watching.
Deeply fascinatint, thank you for putting this video together.
Very nice biopic of a people who seem to have thrived for a significant period of time. One can imagine people raising their families in these communities for thousands of years. Generations of grandparents parents and children come and gone.
Yeah thats crazy, and just like that they are erased from existence and history almost. They were living in a present times just like us today, with all their strugles pretty much irrelevant now. Thousands years from now same fate might happen to us, none of the current nations and nationalities and ethnicities won't exist in the future. Everything we do now will be erased in some future
I’m a total geek for early metallurgy, so when I see the clay disc with markings, my first thought is, of course, a metallurgical recipe.
If humans ever developed a time machine, I’d want to use it to go back and observe this period of humanity. For me, the several thousand years of pre-pottery Neolithic and chalcolithic is the sweet spot. (5000+ years is an unfortunately big sweet spot!)
i did some hobby metalwork inspired by history,i love looking at base principles (starting from scratch and learning from there,and evolving with knowledge of what is right and wrong and why) what video/series would you recommend for someone to have a good foundation in metallurgy?
all this mainstream history is fake
Take a look at the following: De Re Metallica by Agricola and L'Encyclopedie by Denis Diderot. You will not be disappointed.
@@andrewthompson5728 thanks ,^_^
I want to go to the library at Alexandria and get cleopatras sketches ...😢😢😢😢😢
Loved it! Thanks a bunch for sharing this with us Danny Boy!
wow they were so advanced for their time. It's crazy to think this was seven thousand years ago
Ermagerd a new video!¡!
Also, I wonder if those clay figurines could've been kids' toys? Something like modern-day toy soldiers. Maybe even made by the child.
Actually I should have included this in the video but there are figurines that were obviously made at least partly by children. There's a couple of little toy cows still with fingerprints in. They can tell that adults or older children made most of the clay figure and then a child finished off the shape by pinching the clay together. So it seems clear that some figures were children's toys.
They also made tiny versions of household objects in clay - little tables, tiny pots and bowls. They look like toy kitchens!
@@aaronfleisher4694important to note that in anthropology, a "ritual" is pretty much any social activity that is done repeatedly, no matter how serious or significant. Shaking hands is a ritual, children's toys are ritual objects. It's an important clarification, because when most people hear "ritual" they default to religion, and it really doesn't have to be related
That's what I thought too. There were probably an abundance of those made to entertain kids. Many had little holes in them. Maybe they were stringing them and hanging them somewhere or wearing them, not sure. Was it for babies to play with, pets? Reminds me of the popular playdough. I wish they can solve this mystery!
@@DanDavisHistoryomg that is so precious!
Damn, never had better timing than this. Thanks for the new video! :)
Great! Thanks for watching right away.
Thank you Dan! It was very interesting to follow. Yet, there's so much more to explore and present about this culture.
As always Dan,nothing short of an absolute gem of a production ❤ 👌 Thank you!
Yet another fascinating video
Keep them coming man, great job as always
You're the only content creator who's sponsor I chose to visit as a way of support. That and youbue algorythm boosting is all I can afford :D
Fantastic video ! Really enjoyed this , incredibly fascinating and brilliantly told. Thank you
Fascinating information about a culture that I knew nothing about. Thanks for sharing this with us. Well done 👍
We in Serbia have older civilization which is Starcevo, Lepenski vir then Vinca civilization.
Vinca civilization did not come from Anatolia like he said it is continued civilization from Starcevo and Lepenski vir
Your videos are fantastic! I can't get enough of them!
I love these ancient culture videos; you really being them to life. I love that you speculate on what things like these figures mean (could this be for planning strategy, or the roles of different war bands before a raid?) I think your talent as a writer gives you a unique advantage in helping imagine how things were for our ancestors.
Looking forward to this! Thanks Dan!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for doing what you do. I just love things like this. Keep them coming!
I receive a ton of joy from watching your videos. You do a great job.
Thanks for your work and time ❤
I am enchanted by that group of presumably warrior statue. In the simple bell shape you can see how human hands have rolled and squeezed the clay. It's a bit like the hand shadows outlined with ochre, but now I can dicern pressure, movement and more precision
The notion that early metalworkers might have exercised (or been constrained by) ritual power brings to mind what I’ve been told of the etymology of the name Cain-among other possible meanings, it referred to the forge. The forge gave the power to kill one’s brother, but God forbids anyone from taking the life (by placing a visible mark?) of the one who works the forge. The sense of terrible, but necessary and protected, power may have been appreciated in different ways in more than one ancient culture.
Vinca, Lepenski Vir, Starcevo - Serbia - the origin of European culture.
Serbs are the oldest nation of Europe, the first alphabet - the oldest calendar in the world - 7533. year. Serbia had access to 3 seas, now it has no access to the sea.
From Serbia and the Serbs, somewhat of a country and a nation emerged - now they are the biggest enemies of the Serbs.
@@milicgordana7935samo da te ne cuju albanci pa da pocnu da placaju drogom da ih evropa gura u udzbenike da su drevni iliri koji su se borili protiv mocnog rima, a albosi uz nato i ameriku nisu mogli da udju u sr jugoslaviju 99te. Toliko o njihovom herojstvu i snazi, da nema otpada Hrvata oni bi bili prvo mjesto u licemjerju. A najvise mi je smjesno kad tvrde da je nasa istorija (koja je samo teorija) o doseljavanju na balkan tacna, a kad im te iste izvore pomenes bitku kod tare gje je napisano da su srbi dosli u bitku i da su imali bjele kape oni kazu laz, srbi falcifikovali to su ustvari bili albanci. Sto govori da oni uopste ne znaju sta pise o doseljavanju dje fakticki je tvrdnja da smo se naselili posle sto he vizantija oslabljena kugom ostala bez stanovnistva koje je bilo samo u nekim gradovoma i fakticki od slovenije do soluna sve je bilo bez duse i tu su upadali varvari i napadali gradove nis, beograd iskoplje pa su zato ti gradovi dati kako bi se izbjegla bepotrebna trvenja na 2 strane jer na istoku su ih bili arapi. Znaci nebuloza totalna.
We are not sons of Cain. We are sons of Japheth.
Fascinating video on a culture I knew nothing about. Interesting interpretation of the mace being a symbol of authority, from the buwava of a hetman or ataman to the mace in the House of Commons in the UK.
Great! A new upload!
A fascinatin topic in a clear and accesible explanation. Great video.
Fascinating! Thank you for this
Thanks for your great Vinča video. How interisting.
A pleasure to watch. Great video 👏
That is fascinating. 8000 years ago. I can't help but ask myself how the climate looked like back then. It is said the sahara was green 15.000 - 10.000 years ago, probably around the time the pyramids were built. It would be so awesome to know how societies co-existed back then, far, far apart from eachother. We nowadays still live among hunter gatherer tribes, and these societies always make me think there's much more to these ancient eras than we have found. It makes me feel so... small and insignificant :) It leaves me in awe. Also, I don't agree with claims that something is "one of the first", I like to think of it more as "the oldest we have found.... for now"
Vinca and Starcevo are part of Belgrade - Serbia. Lepenski Vir is in Serbia.
Serbs are the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest script in the world. Serbs
they have the oldest calendar in the world - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla. The Serbs gave the most to the development of the world. Now it is
Serbia is an occupied country.
There are even older pyramids in the Balkans than those in the Sahara...
Beautiful video, such a fascinating people, let's hope we learn much more about them 👍
Many thanks.
At 18:45, The first thing I thought of was "1000pt Warhammer Army". If cube dice were discovered in the vicinity of the figures, we'd know for sure. heh. But I'd not be surprised if they were figures for a wargame or actual tools for representing troops in war planning or as part of storytelling like puppets.
Great stuff, as always, Dan. Those "chess men" really are fascinating. I need a timeline with all the civilizations on it to see how they all relate.
Another excellent video. Thank you!
Another masterpiece. Thank you.
A lot of experts in Serbia on vinča civilisation. They can help you with more info
Da, arheolog Jankovic ima interesantno tumacenje Vincanske kulturi.
Vinca culture isn't Serbian culture
@@snoopyportfolio2072 its pre serbian culture, same people, same dna (from analysed skeletons),same culture(symbols etc), and guess where you find the remains? In serbia
@@alexroma2667 Slavs only entered Balkan in the 7th century
Eh he probably thinks it's propaganda, we are discredited as a nation in every field
The first 10 seconds of the video are not exactly as you say, sir, about migrations from M. East, because the new researchees of HAPLO GROUPS of the domicial people in Serbia and former Yugoslavia today, (I2a, R1b), are the same with HAPLO GROUPS of arheolohical human bones samples from the period of Vincha, Starchevo. It means that there was not any big migration from M. East to a Balkans. If we take a look also, at the HAPLO GROUPS maps of M. East, or Greece, the answer is more clear. I congratulate you, sir, for the rest of your god job on this video, it means a lot for me, for my people, and, I hope, for the real History Sciense.
@ Имаш "Еупедиа хаплогроуп И2а" .
Осим ововременог стања и распореда хаплогрупа у Европи и шире , имаш и опис и историју (за сваку од хпл.гр. данас присутној у Европи) .
Приказано стање је са становишта науке о ДНК , као и ДНК испитивање нађених скелета из разних периода , на разним местима
Vinca and Starcevo are part of Belgrade - Serbia. Lepenski Vir is in Serbia.
Serbs are the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest script in the world. Serbs
they have the oldest calendar in the world - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla. The Serbs gave the most to the development of the world. Now it is
Serbia is an occupied country.
Hahahahaha didnt Slavic tribes come to Balkans for appr 1000 years? Gtfoh
@vladimirkrstov, That’s a lot of anachronism you’re engaging in. Not a single one of those Roman emperors were Serbs, as no such thing as a Serb or Serbia existed then. They were Roman.
Yes he did not say that before Vinca Serbia has Starcevo, Lepenski vir civilization.
another great video. many thanks!
very good program, enjoyed it
Great video! Thank you!
Their figurines have an almost Etruscan look about them.
I don't think so, but it would be a good idea to make a reconstruction. Not sure why they haven't.
Vinchan alphabet has al letters from Etruscan language, but even more and predates etruscan culture, it's confirmed by Profesor Radivoj Peshich published in Italy, and accepted by scientific comunity.
To me when I saw those Etruscan figurines they looked Egyptian.
@@frostflower5555because the Egyptian were the most advanced culture at the time they traded with Egypt and learned from them. Also from Greeks of course but people always ignore Egypt. Of course looking at the statues it’s obvious they were learning more from Egypt than from Greece.
Maybe the Etruscan came from the Vinca people. And weren't etruscan quite different from the latin people and all other people that lived in what is today Italy?
I was fascinated by their houses in a row, creating the first known streets.
This is amazing! In romania we still have ancient rituals in which this similar masks are worn
You are romanized tribe,but in past you been someone other, very common, i can say.... No meter... I don't want to make you angry.
@@pavkovic77What romanized tribe ? And what was before that, what do you mean ?
In Serbia we have poklade
There needs to be an examination of the emergence of agricultural societies, and their impact on the early herding societies. It is no secret both have been at odds with each other, and a study of how they may have come to their initial agreements.
Vinca, Lepenski Vir, Starcevo - Serbia - the origin of European culture.
Serbs are the oldest nation of Europe, the first alphabet - the oldest calendar in the world - 7533. year. Serbia had access to 3 seas, now it has no access to the sea.
From Serbia and the Serbs, somewhat of a country and a nation emerged - now they are the biggest enemies of the Serbs.
@@milicgordana7935 Ummm, second oldest alphabet. The Cyrillic alphabet borrowed many letters from the Greeks. The letter "F" for example.
Greek alphabet is a spinoff of Serb / Vinča alphabet.
Greeks are a mixture of natives (Serbs), North Africans and Levantines.
Ancient Greek writes like Plato make it quite clear that they are not the native. Plato himself says they have taken the native language and twisted it to such a measure that they don’t even know what the words mean / how they came to be / their etymology.
He uses “Zogon” (a cart that is pulled by two oxen), as an example and says he has no idea what the etymology is.
Serbs still use that word today. It’s called “Dvogon”.
Dvo (two) gon (verb: “goniti”, meaning to chase; to push; move away).
Egyptians that came to Europe (that mixed in and became ancient Greeks) brought their papyrus technology with them and wrote down all of our epic poetry and traditions etc....that are sung along the “Gusle” instrument.
Another wonderful and educational video. :D
THANK YOU!
🙏🏻 LOVE FROM BELGRADE, SERBIA!
Thank you so much for your work!
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video about Vinca culture ,an ancient (54×100 BC) farming civilization in Balkan regions . Thank you 🙏 (Dan Davis history) channel for sharing
I have been waiting for this. Cucuteni-Tripolie next please:)
That was one of my first videos. I need to remake it, lots more to say about it.
Great stuff, my man!
Thank you!
15:29 I wouldn’t mind a video covering all the undeciphered languages we currently know about. People don’t know how many there are.
I love learning about the neolithic it's such utterly fascinating period
15:33 Some of the letters look Slavic like this one Ђ and Ч on the top left side and the letter ш that is next to the Ч letter
Yes Serbian people still write and use those letters. It was Vinca letters now we call it cirilica
Ђ is not a Slavic letter it is hallmark of Serbian letters
@@ranojutro426ćirilica is a misnomer. It indicates Serbian inability to develop the writing system themselves and negates clear continuity with Vinča
@@LeksoS "Slavic" was another word for Serbian people, it was made up just like many others to confuse future generations. Slavs = Serbs
Slav = Pravoslav Pravoslavlje (Orthodox Christian-ity), Slava = Celebration, Slaviti = to celebrate, Slovo = letter, Sloviti = to know how to write and to read ... etc
All Serbian roots of words dating back to ancient times and still used today.
Awesome video Dan! 🌊🏄♂️🪷
Thank you for your effort and help to find out the history and age of our ancestors on the soil of Serbia. A grateful Serbian woman
Amazing as always
Thank you very much.
Some of those figurines strikingly remind me of the head of a mantis, maybe they took inspiration from that insect as it is known to live in those latitudes
Fascinating civilization. Smart, elegant population.
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Although Vinca is not the same tier of civilisation the likes of which we will witness 2000 years later in Mesopotamia, they certainly are a distinct culture with traces of proto-civilisationary traits.
They are an important corner stone in the theory of how civilisations came to be since the usual school of thought teaches us that there was nothing in europe prior to the old civilisations.
Glad to see more videos on teh topic of Vinca culture, especially in English as world doesn't really talk enough about this fantastic culture, while in Serbia and Romanai there is no enough funding to discover more. I am very much fascinated with so called "Vinca symbols" for which some believe its the first world's writing. But there is much debate about it still whether those are just decorations or writings.
In Vinca culture, everything is inspired by the number 3. Serbs still have the number 3 rooted in their culture.
Another classic!
Love it.
Thank you very much 🙏
I picked up The Living Goddesses by Marija Gimbutas. It's a great read and it offers an in depth exploration of, what she calls "old Europe". She discisses cultures like the Vinča or Cucuteni Trypillia culture. They are absolutely fascinating and I've always wondered what people from this remote period were like
They were probably a little prettier and a lot more intelligent.
Pleased to see another Gimbutas enjoyer
@@user-lf2jh2ru9fYes, they knew the number 3.14.
@@kumstuke she's fantastic. She was well ahead of her time.
A lot of her theories have been debunked by other scholars.
6:30 the rectangle reminds me of what was found in america when building the railroad. The tracks always seem to be going past these. A lot of stone left under the ground. It is unknown what they are about.
15.24. Serbian symbol.cros with 4C
I have been there as a kid, part of a school trip. It was hella cool to see everything they dig up and preserved as well!
There were several cultures before the Vinca culture, both in the same area, the greater region of the Balkans and Greece. I don't know if it was the largest at this particular point in time, but it certainly wasn't the first.
Yes, in Serbia Lepenski vir civilization, Starcevo civilization then Vinca civilization.
The oldest discovered so far.
Those figurines are amazing! And thank you for not talking about ancient aliens. 🙄
Big up Oldeuropeanculture for the ancient wisdom 👌
Good Morning! Great video, watched it twice. Any suggestions for reading material on the topic of ancient writing and symbols? I can't get enough of the earliest symbology in our ancient past. Thank you again for all the hard work
I would recommend the book: The Mystery of the Danube Civilisation: The discovery of Europe's oldest civilisation written by Harald Haarmann.
@@vesnajelovac3951yes Lepenski vir civilization, Starcevo then Vinca calendar
This is so interesting. Just wonderful.
I had not heard of the Vinc^a culture! Interesting they were Mediterranean originally. And such large settlement. Unusual so early. There is so much we don't know from these early periods like grabbing smoke! But historians & archeologists have done an amazing job recreating these people & their lifestyle.
They are not Mediterranean originally, they are continuing civilization from Starcevo and Lepenski vir civilization
Those recreated houses look nice. I could live in one of those.
So fascinating! I can't help but wonder what those miniature figurines were for - it would make sense that they are game pieces, or figurines on a map in times of conflict to denote strategy and tactics, or something else altogether. It is really wonderful that this much material has survived for so long.
Vinca and Starcevo are part of Belgrade - Serbia. Lepenski Vir is in Serbia.
Serbs are the oldest nation in Europe.
Serbs have the oldest script in the world. Serbs
they have the oldest calendar in the world - 7533 years old.
Serbia gave 18 Roman emperors, Emperor Constantine. Nikola Tesla. The Serbs gave the most to the development of the world. Now it is
Serbia is an occupied country.
@@vladimirkrstov Wow, it takes a special sort of nationalism to literally think your country is the most important one in all of human history. Especially when, as you note, Serbia is now basically a rounding error for the US or Japan. Or that there are several nuclear powers, but not Serbia. It is like an ant yelling at a human, "Behold my glory!"
Seriously though, what the hell is wrong with you? Serbia is a tiny backwater best known for its inability to co-exist with its neighbors. Doesn't matter how many Roman Emperors you've contributed to history if you can't simply [exist] without causing other nations problems.