Whynis it that this man takes his time to show a different way of loading a shotshell in the field or for emergency situations so that the common man is armed and we get even one complaint?? ** If you don't like it don't do it but rest assured it works and there is many cost saving ways of doing things.. Thank you Sir for sharing your time and teaching an old Marine a few new tricks. God bless and keep doing what you are doing..
It seems to me like that's a lot of work. Here's what I do. I put my powder in I put a piece of raw wool I put my shot, which is usually BB's in, I put another piece of raw wool and I put my card over the top of it and glue it. Now I make my cards out of cereal box cardboard works pretty good just the same as buying them. The wool also has natural lanolin in it which kind of helps with fowling. Give it a try it's a lot easier. If you don't have wool you can use wax paper, or for that matter you can use green leaves. Anyway give a shot you never know. Have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
You can also use watered down Elmer's glue. It's basically the same as water glass made for reloading. Also, you can simplify things and use the same volume powder and shot. So if you you use 1 1/8 shot dipper, you can use that for the powder too-to make a square load..
Nice, for over powder wad and cushion wade is it okay to substitute it with round ball patch, or paper and press it down just like loading on a black powder muzzleloader then pour shot shells then place piece of cardboard to keep the pellets press it then finish it as you have shown seal it. Thanks
Scour antique stores for an old time roll crimper tool, ,It is a sleeve affair with a crank on it than you clamp to your bench. It turns a nice roll crimp on shells loaded as you have, I load mine same basic way except I cut the cushion end off a plastic shot sleeve type wad, and put that down on top of the over-powder wad,, then add shot and the over shot card, roll crimp with the old time tool.. Beautiful reloaded shells. The shot sleeve makes the shortened shells work better in modern guns with the long tapered chambers. The older guns with the short taper on the end of the chambers work fine with card wads, but I had trouble in the long chambered guns with the ;powder flame going past the wads and melting the shot before it got out of the barrel. Lots of leading about six inches ahead of the chamber....Hard to clean out. The plastic shot sleeves prevent this. They don't melt because of the over-powder wad.
I like your piece of tubing, it really helps out with lengthening your shell. Maybe a roll crimp tool that fits in the drilling machine is good and cheap. Its the fastest way to do it. Greetings, Jeff
I run 100-150 grains BP behind .69 balls,Lee key drive slug,and my favorite Russian Savarog and Italian "hydrant" slugs between 430 and 659 grains. Very accurate,and alot cheaper than factories.I ßhoot them out of an H&R Uktraslug fully rifled barrel,a 10 ga drilled out to 12 ga for and extra thick barrel.
I do about the same thing! Lately I've been loading brass hulls with 600 grain, 0.735 diameter balls sitting on top of 150 grains of BP. It's a beast on both ends! I've got some videos on my channel showing off a couple loads.
60 grains of black powder is enough for shooting an old 12 gauge double barrel. Of course if it's a newer shotgun 80 grains is good. Just depends on how old the shotgun is and what condition it is. With a very old shotgun hammer gun like a coach hammer gun that's in kind of bad shape you could go like 55-62 grains.
@@davidgardner863 I finally just broke down and brought a 12ga. And 20ga. Mec 600 jr. Reloader ran across a guy that was retiring from reloading he them for $50.00 EA with wads and 2 25lb. Bags of #6 leadshot so couldn't pass it up lol
@Ban this youtube I have used all kinds of powders including black and pyrodex for 12 gauge, but never near that amount. I was even able to fire one made with ground matches as the propellant, all through a mossberg 500.
@John Beige I had the scoop from my 12 Gauge Classic Lee Loader and would always just use one scoop of powder whatever type I had. It was about the same volume as the tip of my pinkie finger from the knuckle up.
I have tried beeswax, Elmers glue, waterglass, and plastic model cement" The model cement works better than any of the others….better holding power, better durability.
Your actually Wrong! In fact that's the exact purpose the 3/4 inside Dia pipe is used for. The pipe has the same 0.75" dia as a shotgun breach, If that shell will fit inside of that pipe, it will never have a problem loading into a shotgun. And once Fired in your own shotgun that hull will be perfectly sized for your firearm, with No Need to Resize. A step I've passed over many times without any bad rounds. In my 58 yrs of reloading,, the resizing of shotgun hulls has never been critical, unless some fool is overcharging his loads. At which point he's in serious trouble if a hull needs to be resized.
@@douglasgault5458 I have a mossberg 500a an Ithaca feather weight 37 and an H&R Pardner single shot 12ga all three have different size chambers a shell from the mossberg will not fit in the h&r or the 37 but a shell from the h&r will fit in the other two the mossberg has loose tolerances and the h&r has the tightest the Ithaca is somewhere in between all shot guns have different tolerances some tighter that others so no a shell from your local gun range may not fit because the brass needs resized
You did not mention resizing the base part of the hull. Since you picked these empty shells up that are of different manufacturers and fired from various shotgun chambers , this resizing operation should not be overlooked. It’s not a problem if the shells were fired in your gun and will be fired in the same shotgun again.
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 I tried one recently. It actually works pretty well if you use common sense. Cut off most of the crimped area before using and put some lube in it and it will crimp well enough that it will cycle in a pump and most likely in a semi.
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 You're welcome. Yeah, I like mine enough that I might buy a backup because of the crap going on between the US and Russia/Ukraine. It really is a game changer in that you can take it anywhere and make shells by hand that can be cycled in a pump. Most of the bad reviews I saw were from people not using common sense with it.
The black powder itself is not bad. The corrosive primers used at the time of its use was the issue. As long as the residue is dry you are fine. Still clean your firearm though.
Hot water & soap to clean up black powder & don't forget the soda bath. Real BP contains 10% sulfer /burnt sulfer and moisture = sulferic acid, which can damage a BP firearm. Simple cleanup without the nitro based cleaners, just don't forget to oil the pipes. In shooting BP my best friend is a SS Bore brush every several shots.
@@pacman10182 yes, as long as it is dry is what I said, when the residue comes in contact with moisture, the potassium sulfide converts into potassium hydroxide and potassium hydrosulfide (the stuff that smells like rotten eggs) this is what will corrode the barrel. So as long as the cleaning is same day, you are good.
Load mine with 80 grains of homemade black powder but do mine all on a mec press this guy is asking for trouble hammering on it like that that primer can go off
Yes I agree. All the black powder reloading of the 12 gauges an not one of actually shooting and patterning them. I have seen the video with Dave Canterbury but he is shooting BB size shot at a foam rubber rabbit target at what I believe he said 20 yards. Yes he did have a few hits on target.
Roast me all you want but I have to agree that at the very least you should of done a follow up vid of testing. I appreciate the vid and the potential info but all you REALLY did was show how to reload a 12g without a crimp using BP. You didn't actually prove it works (I'm sure it does) or how well (much more important). I'm well aware I could be out there doing it myself but that's the point of Utube for me- saving time and learning. If you're even considering a test video one with different loads/shot would be VERY useful! Meant no offense, just my two cents.
Whynis it that this man takes his time to show a different way of loading a shotshell in the field or for emergency situations so that the common man is armed and we get even one complaint??
** If you don't like it don't do it but rest assured it works and there is many cost saving ways of doing things..
Thank you Sir for sharing your time and teaching an old Marine a few new tricks.
God bless and keep doing what you are doing..
Best reloading video I ever saw Thanks
It seems to me like that's a lot of work. Here's what I do. I put my powder in I put a piece of raw wool I put my shot, which is usually BB's in, I put another piece of raw wool and I put my card over the top of it and glue it. Now I make my cards out of cereal box cardboard works pretty good just the same as buying them. The wool also has natural lanolin in it which kind of helps with fowling. Give it a try it's a lot easier. If you don't have wool you can use wax paper, or for that matter you can use green leaves. Anyway give a shot you never know. Have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry!
Bb's will wreck your barrel over time. The rest of your methods work well, though.
Modern airgun BBs are made of steel….Daisy, Benjamin, etc.
You can also use watered down Elmer's glue. It's basically the same as water glass made for reloading. Also, you can simplify things and use the same volume powder and shot. So if you you use 1 1/8 shot dipper, you can use that for the powder too-to make a square load..
Thanks, I'll try this for sure.
Well done! Thank you!
Thanks, Good information
Nice vid 👍👍
Nice, for over powder wad and cushion wade is it okay to substitute it with round ball patch, or paper and press it down just like loading on a black powder muzzleloader then pour shot shells then place piece of cardboard to keep the pellets press it then finish it as you have shown seal it. Thanks
I've used this technique to quickly load a small batch of 12 gauge, and with a roll crimping tool from Victorian England and it does the job.
Scour antique stores for an old time roll crimper tool, ,It is a sleeve affair with a crank on it than you clamp to your bench. It turns a nice roll crimp on shells loaded as you have,
I load mine same basic way except I cut the cushion end off a plastic shot sleeve type wad, and put that down on top of the over-powder wad,, then add shot and the over shot card, roll crimp with the old time tool.. Beautiful reloaded shells. The shot sleeve makes the shortened shells work better in modern guns with the long tapered chambers. The older guns with the short taper on the end of the chambers work fine with card wads, but I had trouble in the long chambered guns with the ;powder flame going past the wads and melting the shot before it got out of the barrel. Lots of leading about six inches ahead of the chamber....Hard to clean out. The plastic shot sleeves prevent this. They don't melt because of the over-powder wad.
There is a Russian made hand roll crimper on Amazon by distributor called Daddy Ammo that actually works pretty well
Good job
I like your piece of tubing, it really helps out with lengthening your shell.
Maybe a roll crimp tool that fits in the drilling machine is good and cheap. Its the fastest way to do it.
Greetings,
Jeff
Was thinking same thing love my roll criper
Instead of the wad, could you use wadding? Such as sheep's wool?
Thanks, I really appreciate this!
I run 100-150 grains BP behind .69 balls,Lee key drive slug,and my favorite Russian Savarog and Italian "hydrant" slugs between 430 and 659 grains.
Very accurate,and alot cheaper than factories.I ßhoot them out of an H&R Uktraslug fully rifled barrel,a 10 ga drilled out to 12 ga for and extra thick barrel.
I do about the same thing! Lately I've been loading brass hulls with 600 grain, 0.735 diameter balls sitting on top of 150 grains of BP. It's a beast on both ends! I've got some videos on my channel showing off a couple loads.
60 grains of black powder is enough for shooting an old 12 gauge double barrel. Of course if it's a newer shotgun 80 grains is good. Just depends on how old the shotgun is and what condition it is. With a very old shotgun hammer gun like a coach hammer gun that's in kind of bad shape you could go like 55-62 grains.
Great video. Do you not worry about the primer going off when you are tapping on the wads?
Not your hitting the inside, not the back of the striker where the firing pin strikes
It can still go off I have had them go off luckily it was just a primer this guy ever has one go of going to be missing a hand
@@texascelt8363, If you have a drill press, you can use it to press in the primer.
@@davidgardner863 I finally just broke down and brought a 12ga. And 20ga. Mec 600 jr. Reloader ran across a guy that was retiring from reloading he them for $50.00 EA with wads and 2 25lb. Bags of #6 leadshot so couldn't pass it up lol
Hot glue gun, dry’s quick keep’s humidity out. For any kind storage time.👍
Oh damn!
Reminds me of my dad
That's an insane amount of powder.
It’s the normal amount of powder
@@KashtukprimalMy apologies. When I used to reload 12 gauge I was using about 18 grains of smokeless. Much different for Pyrodex no doubt.
@Ban this youtube I have used all kinds of powders including black and pyrodex for 12 gauge, but never near that amount. I was even able to fire one made with ground matches as the propellant, all through a mossberg 500.
@@littlebiscuits watch your bore, potassium chlorate is highly corrosive to your barrel.
Hot water ans soap cleaning is usually necessary.
@John Beige I had the scoop from my 12 Gauge Classic Lee Loader and would always just use one scoop of powder whatever type I had. It was about the same volume as the tip of my pinkie finger from the knuckle up.
How Reloading black powder shotgun shells with To light up the night sky???
Have you tested the rounds?
Haven’t patterned it on paper but I’ve already shot them all up on flying clays.
They did very well
I have tried beeswax, Elmers glue, waterglass, and plastic model cement"
The model cement works better than any of the others….better holding power, better durability.
Thanks for sharing that. Any issues with the model cement getting stuck in the barrel after firing?
Using hulls from a gun range will not always work because in most cases you are gonna have to resize the brass on the hulls.
Your actually Wrong! In fact that's the exact purpose the 3/4 inside Dia pipe is used for. The pipe has the same 0.75" dia as a shotgun breach, If that shell will fit inside of that pipe, it will never have a problem loading into a shotgun. And once Fired in your own shotgun that hull will be perfectly sized for your firearm, with No Need to Resize. A step I've passed over many times without any bad rounds. In my 58 yrs of reloading,, the resizing of shotgun hulls has never been critical, unless some fool is overcharging his loads. At which point he's in serious trouble if a hull needs to be resized.
@@douglasgault5458 12 gauge is .809 at the base and .810 in the chamber
quit talking horseshit
@@douglasgault5458 I have a mossberg 500a an Ithaca feather weight 37 and an H&R Pardner single shot 12ga all three have different size chambers a shell from the mossberg will not fit in the h&r or the 37 but a shell from the h&r will fit in the other two the mossberg has loose tolerances and the h&r has the tightest the Ithaca is somewhere in between all shot guns have different tolerances some tighter that others so no a shell from your local gun range may not fit because the brass needs resized
absolutely loved the video.....where did you get the wads? thanks!
Dude you can just jam a bit of cloth in there.
With bore butter or lube.
You did not mention resizing the base part of the hull. Since you picked these empty shells up that are of different manufacturers and fired from various shotgun chambers , this resizing operation should not be overlooked. It’s not a problem if the shells were fired in your gun and will be fired in the same shotgun again.
свинцовую дробь нежелательно тромбовать молотком - дробинки теряют сферическую форму и летят менее кучно на большой дистанции выстрела
Watching from the Philippines. Is that a tub of sky flakes on the foreground?
Ha ha ha yes!
@@Kashtukprimal you are probably married to a filipina or have filipino friends.
What are shy flakes
Dude i got tired of rounds you cant carry...so i bought a hand held russian roll crimper for 30 bucks...so worth it
im curious if those russian hand held reloader actually got shells in good form for semi auto to run reliably?
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 I tried one recently. It actually works pretty well if you use common sense. Cut off most of the crimped area before using and put some lube in it and it will crimp well enough that it will cycle in a pump and most likely in a semi.
@@JohnB-dr8sk thanks even though this is a year old question lol i still haven't pulled trigger on those handheld reloader yet but i might soon now
@@SlavicCinnamonRollie556 You're welcome. Yeah, I like mine enough that I might buy a backup because of the crap going on between the US and Russia/Ukraine. It really is a game changer in that you can take it anywhere and make shells by hand that can be cycled in a pump. Most of the bad reviews I saw were from people not using common sense with it.
@@JohnB-dr8sk Yeah smart to get spare just in case if something breaks.
In Iran, I did it many times. wasn't the case and shell.
In the US I have too much shell and gunpowder :)
Seems better to pay less than a dollar a round for my old 16ga
Would you by chance have any recipes for the Federal 1.75 inch Shorty load with Pyrodex & a 15/16 oz of 8 shot? Thanks.
Sorry no I don’t have recipes for that. Probably do well with 60gr 2f
@@Kashtukprimal Thank you.
@@Kashtukprimal Wouldn't he be better off with FFFg for that load? Faster burn might be better
Or you can buy a 12 gauge breech plug from gun adapters and load in the field.
That place has become insane. Insane prices now, and everything they made that was good is no longer available.
Not all primers are created equal, same with hauls, wads, powder, shot ect…
Excellent video..!
There is a really simple way to re-fold crimp without using a press. If you're interested, I'll explain.
Thanks for the video...
shadowcastre yes I’m aware of refolding the crimp without a press. But I’m partial to this method. I have a roll crumpet too... for the next video
Shadowcaste
Please do
Id be interested if you're still willing to explain.
I can close a shell like the factory with my hands and a dowel
Isn't black powder highly corrosive to your firearm?
Yep, clean it right after shooting with dishwash soap en water. ;)
The black powder itself is not bad.
The corrosive primers used at the time of its use was the issue.
As long as the residue is dry you are fine.
Still clean your firearm though.
Hot water & soap to clean up black powder & don't forget the soda bath. Real BP contains 10% sulfer /burnt sulfer and moisture = sulferic acid, which can damage a BP firearm. Simple cleanup without the nitro based cleaners, just don't forget to oil the pipes. In shooting BP my best friend is a SS Bore brush every several shots.
@@PraetzelProjects BP fowling is hydroscopic, it attracts water from the air, that's what's corrosive
@@pacman10182 yes, as long as it is dry is what I said, when the residue comes in contact with moisture, the potassium sulfide converts into potassium hydroxide and potassium hydrosulfide (the stuff that smells like rotten eggs) this is what will corrode the barrel.
So as long as the cleaning is same day, you are good.
Load mine with 80 grains of homemade black powder but do mine all on a mec press this guy is asking for trouble hammering on it like that that primer can go off
This method is very bad, the shot will sleep, and the flight speed of the shot will be very different
It's the way they've always been loaded. What are you talking about?
Que mala filmación
Trump 2020
All of your steps were good but you pounded on it to much. Now roll crimp it. 👎on the glue
Show us you shooting the thing... lame.
Yes I agree. All the black powder reloading of the 12 gauges an not one of actually shooting and patterning them. I have seen the video with Dave Canterbury but he is shooting BB size shot at a foam rubber rabbit target at what I believe he said 20 yards. Yes he did have a few hits on target.
Funny how people who don’t do shit have the most shit to say. Lame
Now that you were shown, Please load your own black powder shell and test fire them for us!
Roast me all you want but I have to agree that at the very least you should of done a follow up vid of testing. I appreciate the vid and the potential info but all you REALLY did was show how to reload a 12g without a crimp using BP. You didn't actually prove it works (I'm sure it does) or how well (much more important). I'm well aware I could be out there doing it myself but that's the point of Utube for me- saving time and learning. If you're even considering a test video one with different loads/shot would be VERY useful! Meant no offense, just my two cents.
What a huge waste of time. Winchester does such nice job for me.
You really forgot about 2020, huh?
Wisdom is fleeting, no matter the political affiliation.