Ranking EVERY Third Strike Character

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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    0:00 intro
    2:16 Sean
    3:14 Twelve
    4:06 Remy
    5:36 Q
    7:28 Alex
    9:16 Hugo
    10:30 Elena
    11:43 Oro
    13:23 Ibuki
    15:17 Necro
    17:01 Akuma
    19:37 Ryu
    21:44 Yang
    23:16 Dudley
    24:54 Urien
    26:49 Makoto
    28:44 Ken
    30:38 WHO'S NUMBER 1??
    34:16 No Spoilers
  • Hry

Komentáře • 530

  • @jmcrofts
    @jmcrofts  Před měsícem +22

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    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 Před měsícem +1

      akuma is the trongest in 3rd strike

    • @darius410
      @darius410 Před měsícem

      ​@@ektran4205no lol

    • @GuyX2013
      @GuyX2013 Před 9 dny

      Damn no mention of Ryu's shin shoryuken ? That thing literally sucks opponents in and makes massive damage. He should've been S-Tier

  • @NoGloveNoLove32
    @NoGloveNoLove32 Před měsícem +505

    I'll never forgive SF for turning Sean into a joke character and creating new shotos instead of bringing him back

    • @Kwisatz-Chaderach
      @Kwisatz-Chaderach Před měsícem +50

      The Uber nerf. He was too dang good in 2nd impact 😭

    • @NoGloveNoLove32
      @NoGloveNoLove32 Před měsícem +69

      @@Kwisatz-Chaderach smh meanwhile Akuma and Chun Li have been top tier in almost every game

    • @ttan7293
      @ttan7293 Před měsícem

      SF has always been dogshit at character appeal. Why is Manon so fugly? Who asked for Marisa? Who even likes Luke? Oh look its fucking Akuma again. How boring

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Před měsícem +4

      Agreed

    • @puffballbk2186
      @puffballbk2186 Před měsícem +1

      @@NoGloveNoLove32problem?

  • @megapussi
    @megapussi Před měsícem +212

    he's called twelve because he dozen do damage

  • @YouGuessIGuess
    @YouGuessIGuess Před měsícem +231

    The assassination of Sean from 2nd Impact to Third Strike will never stop being tragic. If they wanted him to be a joke character then they should have given him some goofy animations, like KoF's Shingo. Instead they just made him suck, abandoned him for two decades, gave his unique tackle move to Luke, and replaced him with a generic World Tour avatar in SF6.

    • @Mr._Anonymous342
      @Mr._Anonymous342 Před měsícem +14

      sadly they kinda did in sf3, he's intro can have him accidentally drop his ball, it's even more tragic when you realize he could've been in sf5 but they replaced his ass with luke, removed his own flare n shit from him & it basically being before/during 3 implies he basically "had" em first, i wouldn't mind luke being the face of sf6, but htf is gulie's student a shoto? he should've been like gulie to be honest (his sand blast should've been a charge & "his" tackle could've been and anti-air & to be even more honest, half of sf6 is just the replacement of sf3, but i still have hope for the 3rd strike cast, they just need there own glow up & new moves!

    • @simonb.8868
      @simonb.8868 Před měsícem +1

      his dragon punch is so goofy

    • @davidpineda9160
      @davidpineda9160 Před měsícem +1

      Lmaoooooo😂

    • @Lillenmedmillen
      @Lillenmedmillen Před měsícem +1

      @@simonb.8868dude, he alley oops you into a slam dunk, how is that goofy???

    • @simonb.8868
      @simonb.8868 Před měsícem +2

      @@Lillenmedmillen a dragon punch with 2 punches isn't goofy, OK. That's fighting not basketball

  • @unity8609
    @unity8609 Před měsícem +74

    27:03 The absolute persuasion in this man’s voice
    I will take a look at this, mr crofts

  • @leithaziz2716
    @leithaziz2716 Před měsícem +118

    A small thing you didn't mention about Akuma that makes him good is his 2nd Super that he always has access to, often dubbed "KKZ" by the community.
    The first hit of the Super is not parryable, so you can cheese a bit by chipping out low health opponents after a knockdown. What makes this move even better though is that characters can't block in the air. So a common strat for high Akuma damage is to end a combo with Tatsu, then do a jab and input KKZ. The opponent will recover, but since they can't block/parry the 1st hit of the Super, it effectively becomes an unblockable reset.

    • @LakeEarth
      @LakeEarth Před měsícem +32

      It's a tool he has, but it isn't what makes him good. You almost never see high level players use it. I seen kara-demon probably 30x more often.

    • @ToyotaKudoFan
      @ToyotaKudoFan Před měsícem +2

      It’s super slow though

  • @j4ff4c3ks1
    @j4ff4c3ks1 Před měsícem +25

    I find it funny that almost everyone between bottom tier and S tier are like "they have this special move that's pretty good, and this one as well" and then the godtiers are "broken normals, broken super." I have to remind myself every so often that Chun DOES still have Spinning Bird Kick in this game, as well as her axe kick.

    • @107Pedro
      @107Pedro Před měsícem +1

      It was so weird the first time I saw a 3S guide and chun, top2 in the game btw, had "Her specials range from bad to just ok, only EX SBK has use" lmao

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 Před měsícem +11

    Remmy looks so cool, he reminds me of an SNK character. Q also deserves to come back, they need some serious redemption

  • @RigbyIsTheMan
    @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +186

    Seans basketball is S tier, it can stop supers no bullshit

    • @darius410
      @darius410 Před měsícem +1

      Lol

    • @costilla1212
      @costilla1212 Před měsícem +4

      Not all of them
      About half

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +16

      @@costilla1212 it's so fun to see happen, the other day it stopped and saved me from Akuma's SA1 😂

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 Před měsícem +12

      The Ballin Shoto.

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +3

      @@leithaziz2716 ball is life

  • @michaelbailey797
    @michaelbailey797 Před měsícem +12

    hugo is scary af he looks like leatherface without the mask

  • @mrdrofficer
    @mrdrofficer Před měsícem +40

    C. Viper is what they were trying to do with Twelve. Air dash attacks and ground pound abilities.

    • @MusicStuffSome
      @MusicStuffSome Před měsícem +8

      I'd never thought of it that way, that's a good analogy!

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 Před měsícem +8

      And she has good instant air mixups too, they can even crossup.

  • @PapaBear816
    @PapaBear816 Před měsícem +68

    Maxamillion felt a disturbance in the force when you placed Q in the D tier

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +6

      Q is definitely a lot higher

    • @omegadragon9524
      @omegadragon9524 Před měsícem +4

      ong, Q is actually kinda busted. He's just slept on kinda

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +6

      @@omegadragon9524 he didn't even mention the taunt

    • @volynx
      @volynx Před měsícem +24

      6:01 ?

    • @BIGHOSSFGC
      @BIGHOSSFGC Před měsícem +33

      @@omegadragon9524busted with his 2 cancellable normals (both mids) and no-mix-mix?

  • @JakeTheJay
    @JakeTheJay Před měsícem +20

    Another thing about Chun-Li's Super art II, it also is a really good punish tool! The fact that you can get punished for just about anything that isn't blocking when she has meter is stupid terrifying

  • @Ben-jz3mt
    @Ben-jz3mt Před měsícem +28

    Unfortunately I don’t think Sean will come back in SF6. Luke actually has quite a few of his normals. Unless he gets reworked.

    • @christinhell
      @christinhell Před měsícem +1

      He's gonna get Laura's moves

    • @Mr._Anonymous342
      @Mr._Anonymous342 Před měsícem +3

      @@christinhell
      edit: it's so over, i'm offically a loser! 😭
      (this gon be long, forgive me) or just like akuma & ed, get improved versions of his moves, lukes tackle is a tackle/over head, sean's isn't, it's basically a command like grab, his ryubi (i think)
      is the overhead, just give his hadoken motions like akuma's hadouken, but a chargable tackle, his kicking hadoken motions should be the over head move, which can now (idk) kick back projectiles if not close enough to land but close enough for the opponent to like projectile (like urien's aegis) his tatsu can be kinda the same but it's overdrive is like ken's & if done again can be put into a grab like luke's (if he stole sean's moves why not let sean snatch a couple right?), but give him a tatsu punch input which gives him something like ryu's move (actually laura's) but more projectile like (forgot the name of it sorry & i mostly mean lauras) but depending on the button (lp, mp, hp) it changes the speed of it & strength of it, fr fr i like his 3rd strike & old dp animations so make his non over drive dps like lukes but the slam dunk doesn't need overdrive, but for overdrive give him the 2 fisted dp, which does hella damage but to balance it / nerf it he loses more drive gauge than luke does for his overdrive dp (to keep in the theme of him still being kinda inexperienced), make his supers better too, like hado burst can behave/act like akumas but with a bit extra & charge able like ryu's sf6 sa2 (or denjin hadoken in sf3), he can launch from the ground regular (ryu / normal hadouken style), or in the air (like akumas) but if another input is put in, he can also slam dunk it on making the other player's character bounce & can be tatsu into anti-air or level 2'd, another feature (ik this all kinda hard to read apologizes) give his hado burst an toss up (i mean let him shoot it from the ground while aiming it up in the air) to stop someone from jumping over it or to prevent (let's say juri or cammy mains from doing their air combo moves) his level 2 should honestly be hyper tornado, ik it was his sa3 in 3rd strike but, it'd be fitting for ken's student yeah?, depending on the drive gauge level of the opponent it can drain health (basically if full drive gauge, it drains drive gauge only or or if none, eats the crap out of health) and if you're fighting jamie or manon (it can remove their buffs completely making them work for it again.) and his lvl3/ca3 could/can be shoryucannon, it looks like ken's but without fire (maybe electricity (to fit laura/blanka & make it yellow) or air/tornadoy? (kinda like rashids lvl3 but shoryukenish?) mostly kinda leaning towards electricity but both are good, but basically ken's (ca with the slam dunk/"sit down & shut up".) but no fire either what i said above, for ca3 or just ca, it's like ken's again (but the first 2 are normal, leading the 3rd one to be electrical, but when he launches them up he leaps into the air above the opponent, then spins raoidly towards them like blanka, grab them & smack around the walls/screen like a pinball machine, and it leads to sean & the foe rolling together on the into sean having the foe put into a head lock. (basically combines ken's sf6 sa/ca3 animation, with ryu electricity aesthetic, with laura homage, or if that sounds too wacky or too bittersweet (basically apologizing if i'm making it sound like sean would replace laura when both can 100% be in game.) instead he still leaps into the air & holds his hands up in the air making a big hado ball (basically goku's spirit bomb) & slams it on the foe like goku would with him landing like ken paying a kinda mixed homage to oro & ken (basically took inspiration from oro, but i knew it kinda sounds like a spirit bomb, cause i was basically writing & thinking as i went on & wanted to answer a hypothetical question of "okay cool, how or why can sean be good now & what will his lore be in sf6", since i'm on the topic now, i'll shorten it cause this mf too long anyway, gullies arcade story but it means much more lore to ken & his family, explains wth he was doing after his 3rd strike ending, being trained by oro & maybe gouken, then sent to find his og master after learning of everything, he fights other sf6 or future sf6 characters yadda yadda, when he reaches ken, they have a talk, ken pushing sean away, sean getting pissed exclaiming he's not the same kid, but ken kinda mockingly reminds him he lost to a nobody in his first ever tournament, which leads to a battle, sean wins, ken being shaken up but impressed has a calming almost fatherly chat with sean, which has ken kinda admitting he failed sean as a mentor & feels bad for trying to repeatedly push him away, sean comforts his mentor & make amends, ken asks sean if he could idk train mel? it'd be a cool way to fight against mel in wt & find sean either near the masters building or outlaw's court, with mel fighting like og 3rd strike sean but his dp is a blue flaming versions of his dads... idk, sorry for wtf this is, i'm ready to be clowned on! )

    • @Kara-de5cz
      @Kara-de5cz Před měsícem +5

      ​@@Mr._Anonymous342
      I think you like Sean.
      I think.

    • @MightyCalcium
      @MightyCalcium Před měsícem +1

      ​@@Mr._Anonymous342 Sean meat rider (I'm a Sean meat rider too)

    • @Mr._Anonymous342
      @Mr._Anonymous342 Před měsícem

      @@Kara-de5cz no no i swear i like other sf3 characters too, bring back necro & my french edgelord!

  • @SvenHolgersson
    @SvenHolgersson Před měsícem +115

    If Necro isn't in top tier I will riot

    • @vapemomsdotcom
      @vapemomsdotcom Před měsícem

      For real. He's been slept on for too long and I've made it my mission to spread the good word of his high tier status

    • @BackOff_xd
      @BackOff_xd Před měsícem +2

      As a Necro Main, ill break your shins.

    • @EMdemo
      @EMdemo Před 14 dny

      lmaooooo

    • @dalcomaroni9837
      @dalcomaroni9837 Před 4 dny +1

      @@BackOff_xd u can't

    • @BackOff_xd
      @BackOff_xd Před 4 dny

      @@dalcomaroni9837 The Lot Of You.

  • @INikeAir
    @INikeAir Před měsícem +17

    Hugo has that Zangief Jab

  • @jackkelly9048
    @jackkelly9048 Před měsícem +12

    3S Ryu is my favourite iteration of his in the franchise no doubt

    • @David-ln8qh
      @David-ln8qh Před měsícem +2

      3S Ryu is awesome but I still have a fondness for 4 Ryu. Both are comeback machines.

    • @TheBlackSeraph
      @TheBlackSeraph Před měsícem

      Found it odd that JM didn't mention the Donkey Kick, giving Ryu the ability to keep being a zoning character much more reliably.

  • @nights2747
    @nights2747 Před měsícem +5

    Didnt mean to watch the whole thing in one go but once started I just couldnt turn it off! You have a really good presentation style. I get destroyed with Alex but I still love playing him. But maybe for my own sanity I'll invest in one of these high tier chars.

  • @DjGaiden
    @DjGaiden Před měsícem +41

    This is definitely my favorite cast, soundtrack, and design of all the Street Fighter games.

    • @BIGGIEDEVIL
      @BIGGIEDEVIL Před měsícem +3

      Best part the sound track is in sf6

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen320
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 Před měsícem +2

      A cast without Honda is a cast not for me

    • @Aramane
      @Aramane Před měsícem

      I dislike the SF goofy characters immensely except Dan and Rolento, but I dislike the SF3 ones more than 4s (Rufus, Hugo, El Fuerte, Hakan) and 5s (Abigail, Fat Birdie, FANG, to a lesser extent G). In this, Necro, Hugo, 12, Oro, and to a lesser extent Q are just no thanks. And Remy looks like a KOF character - waltzed into the wrong game.

    • @diba9281
      @diba9281 Před 28 dny

      ​@@Aramanemad cus Q is a Chad and gets more action than you, and he's not a goofy character

    • @Aramane
      @Aramane Před 27 dny

      @@diba9281 pffft I'm a gay man with abs during Pride - so, I doubt it.

  • @RenPenov
    @RenPenov Před měsícem +1

    Love this kind of content! Hope to see more for other games like Alpha 2!

  • @Keaks_
    @Keaks_ Před měsícem +3

    Alex is my favourite street fighter character of all time, high risk high reward. I feel like he has so many different moves that people just forget he has all of these weird ass mix ups. Stomp, jump dive into grab, crouch heavy into knee drop EX in the corner. Also ddt catches so many people off guard.

  • @frobuddy8082
    @frobuddy8082 Před měsícem +12

    It would be cool to see Remmy in sf6

  • @Hoods_
    @Hoods_ Před měsícem +44

    Chun is the best all rounder but Yun can bully her like no other in the cast

    • @karateman1988
      @karateman1988 Před měsícem +8

      Yeah being the only character with (permanent) V-ism combos will let you do that

  • @SuperLemonfish
    @SuperLemonfish Před měsícem +30

    Dont forget that hugos has an invisible timer counting down 30 frames over and over. When it runs out, it dumps all inputs related to SPD
    and so about 5 to 30% of the time depending on how fast you do the input, it will run out and make your spd input drop!

    • @ryler7
      @ryler7 Před měsícem +3

      wait what??

    • @SuperLemonfish
      @SuperLemonfish Před měsícem +3

      @@ryler7 yes. An invisible timer determines if the move will be registered or not. You can do a fast 4 frame spd and if the timer ran out during that window, tough luck. No spd. Its actually a pretty huge deal. Check out demonstrations on youtube.

    • @ryler7
      @ryler7 Před měsícem +2

      @@SuperLemonfish that's insane lol. I'll never look at hugo the same

    • @SuperLemonfish
      @SuperLemonfish Před měsícem +1

      @@ryler7 I dropped him because of this. Whiffed spd can swing matches
      (and also because hes not good, and because geneijin is giga degenerate and unfun to fight)

    • @ryler7
      @ryler7 Před měsícem +1

      @@SuperLemonfish dash gigas is still fun to do tho (even if I only get it once every hundred attempts)

  • @Daithlee
    @Daithlee Před měsícem +55

    Imagine Sean being decent, then trash, and then Luke shows with a large majority of his moves set and be really good...who knew lol?

    • @bombs2848
      @bombs2848 Před měsícem +26

      They did intentionally gut him in third strike tbf
      He was top tier in second impact

    • @yellowslotcar
      @yellowslotcar Před měsícem +4

      See above lol he was actually really good in 2I

    • @megapussi
      @megapussi Před měsícem

      i mean yeah, sean in 3s is an intentionally bad shoto and luke in sf5 and 6 is an intentionally good shoto, not that surprising

    • @manrightchea
      @manrightchea Před měsícem +21

      Sean was never a damn joke and honestly it's kind of fucked up that they stole a lot of his moves for Luke.

    • @MegafanX123
      @MegafanX123 Před měsícem +7

      Meanwhile Yun and Yang litteraly got replaced by their fanboy ☠️

  • @darkchild130
    @darkchild130 Před 7 dny +3

    The irony of calling Q a scrub killer, then getting 0-10 against Q.
    Oof!

  • @MrCactuar13
    @MrCactuar13 Před měsícem +4

    Denjin Hadoken is good, but it can struggle against characters with high stun. Dudley I've seen has been a problem character for Ryu players because he takes just a bit more to stun so he doesn't really fear the Denjin mixup as much as others, and if he doesn't get stunned then he gets to punish Ryu on hit if he's close. I think in those matchups, Ryu should be using SA1 for the EX donkey kick and hit confirm into super.

  • @shignificent
    @shignificent Před měsícem +2

    Typing this while the ad is playing because I like your channel and want to give you the engagement.

  • @RigbyIsTheMan
    @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +9

    We love to see a Ryu winning

  • @DeaDGoD_XIV
    @DeaDGoD_XIV Před 4 dny

    CZcams has been recommending your videos to me lately, and after watching the third random video of yours I am subscribing

  • @viewtifulbeau6285
    @viewtifulbeau6285 Před měsícem +7

    It would be funny if now that there’s so many new players playing 3rd strike because of Evo. That the meta was shifted and new top tiers were discovered.

    • @ssjAnnaPaquin
      @ssjAnnaPaquin Před měsícem +1

      I think people give a lot more respect to Ryu and Dudley as of late. Yomoda and Kuni both narrowly missed Top 6 winners at EVO JP and on the NA side Exodus won jazzy circuit and Bubbles won combo breaker.

    • @lemonpug6582
      @lemonpug6582 Před měsícem

      Yang meta is gonna go crazy tbh

  • @emza642
    @emza642 Před měsícem +1

    the timing of this vid is perfect coz i just recently got the 3oth anniversary bundle yesterday

  • @rakanelafrangi161
    @rakanelafrangi161 Před měsícem

    Your videos bring me a lot of peace FR

  • @OpoumConsumer
    @OpoumConsumer Před měsícem +44

    Im really disappointed that Capcom treated Sean like another Dan with those new trash moves, even tho his 2nd impact dp was already the best

    • @Mr._Anonymous342
      @Mr._Anonymous342 Před měsícem +5

      they even gave it to luke. sf6 is just "3rd strike 2.0"

  • @souljasleet
    @souljasleet Před měsícem +9

    Do alpha 3 next if possible!

  • @shemgreenwood559
    @shemgreenwood559 Před měsícem +1

    Would love to see Jmcrofts try to use the secret special attacks that SF6 Akuma gets after taunting 😁

  • @non-yy6ih
    @non-yy6ih Před 8 dny

    You forgot to talk about a lot of Remy tools that (in my opinion) make him a playable character as well as Hugo
    - His HK kara throw that's nearly a teleport
    - His fast dashs
    - Corner combos
    - LOV gatling
    - 1 frame super
    - good anti-air
    (- His animation when he removes his jacket)

  • @omgitzmolin3673
    @omgitzmolin3673 Před měsícem

    Hey jmcrofts how you do that Zanf or Hugo that special how they full circle so fast and other

  • @Cressx
    @Cressx Před měsícem +4

    I know Alex isn't the greatest character, but I still love playing him.
    Still can still oops someone really fast if you get a few good reads.

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 Před měsícem +3

      It's hard to make powerbombing not feel good.
      "YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!"

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Před měsícem

      @@leithaziz2716long death

    • @RigbyIsTheMan
      @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem +1

      ​@@leithaziz2716 or in his Michael Jackson voice in New generation

  • @lot8113
    @lot8113 Před měsícem +5

    I dont know that much about 3S, but im wondering what the thought process is for putting Remi, a character that is almost never seen, in the same tier as Q, a difficult character with actual stenghts that we've seen do work at times. Maybe its my misconception and im missing something but im curious nonetheless.

    • @jmcrofts
      @jmcrofts  Před měsícem +10

      Remy also has diehard specialists who perform well at tournaments. Check out footage of Pierrot

    • @LakeEarth
      @LakeEarth Před měsícem +1

      Nah, they're very different characters but they're about even on the tier list.

    • @Kara-de5cz
      @Kara-de5cz Před měsícem

      They're both in the same tier, the tier of "bad but has some great players in tournaments"

    • @GeoGyf
      @GeoGyf Před měsícem

      3S is very bad balance wise. That said the parry system can throw everything in the mix.
      Ofcourse a player who picks a top tier & is ''on the zone'' with parries washes the competition.

  • @user-et3xn2jm1u
    @user-et3xn2jm1u Před měsícem +1

    Chun's super is also kinda fucked up because the camera follows her opponent when they get launched, meaning she can prepare off-screen mixups for when they land.

  • @triohazard6104
    @triohazard6104 Před měsícem

    This helps since I just got Third Strike and I want to learn older fighters

  • @TheEverythingEnthuiast
    @TheEverythingEnthuiast Před měsícem +3

    24:56 -26:48
    this is the closest to a Urine video yet

  • @giantdinoboy8264
    @giantdinoboy8264 Před měsícem +2

    I do think that Q is a little underrated because he isn't good in the traditional sense outside of his supers which are quality supers. He's about as good as Elena imo due to his high hp, throw bug (crouch to standing or standing to crouching (I forget the specifics) puts his throw box in the air), good strike throw with the longest reaching command grab in the game that leads to a combo + defense boosting taunt, some high/low from mid screen with rush punch overheads and lows, and his presence from full screen with his defense taunt (even Chun Li players are scared of this before they build super) and the universal parry. He just has too much damage, a great taunt, and many mediocre tools that cover his weaknesses to an extent to be low tier.

  • @minisquirtle9702
    @minisquirtle9702 Před 13 dny

    Much as I enjoy tier lists, I think its more fun to see a list of who people like the most as a character rather than which character is better gameplaywise. Just the ol "I just think he's neat" and why

  • @erminioff
    @erminioff Před měsícem

    Noob question: what sf3rd version is that? with training mode, frame data etc? I have mame and sf collection on steam but no option to turn on this hud...maybe fightcade+some script/mod? Thx

    • @CCuppy29
      @CCuppy29 Před měsícem

      This is the Fightcade training mode LUA

    • @unibrawn
      @unibrawn Před měsícem

      this is the grouflon training lua, much better than the figthtcade default

    • @CCuppy29
      @CCuppy29 Před měsícem

      @@unibrawn wow ignore me I guess I’m spreading snake oil

  • @jk8190
    @jk8190 Před měsícem

    Makoto is my favorite, but I can't figure out how to convert from command throw + back and SP to super. Even if I do it extremely fast it just doesn't work.

  • @z0d603
    @z0d603 Před měsícem +2

    My favorite characters in 3rd Strike are Necro, Makoto and Q. Even though I love the guy, I tought Necro would've been in C tier. I'd also switch Urien and Makoto even if I love her very much. Finally, Q. His name is a letter. He is Q tier. What does that mean? You have to be Q. Be Q or bust. I just love Q specialists.

  • @BigCreepySleepy
    @BigCreepySleepy Před měsícem

    Great Video 🕹️ BRB Gotta download 3rd Strike

  • @apaleguy
    @apaleguy Před měsícem +1

    Idk why but I have a Pocket Sean and I've been able to demolish a lot of top tiers at my locals.
    However things get serious when I get Dudley out.

  • @Anna-vx2pe
    @Anna-vx2pe Před měsícem +8

    Demonstrating ibukis weakness on chun is funny because as I've heard shes the only mid tier that actually goes even with her

  • @KungFoo1
    @KungFoo1 Před měsícem +7

    Alex reasoning could be improved. No big damage off of lows, has command grab to compensate but it’s really not rewarding. Only lp version gives you oki. His other moves are reactable in a lot of cases. His combos are ok, even though he doesn’t have many. Ex move Enders do great damage and corner carry. And the super sa2 is alright, just don’t use it from long range. It’s obvious the range not to use it from. Cr Lk x 2 doesn’t work, just one lk. He has a harder confirm with cl mk and an easier one with any elbow or a jump in

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 Před měsícem +3

      Alex's big issue is that he doesn't have anything substantial about his kit. All of it is subpar or has problems/is inconsistent. He also doesn't make good use of meter in general. He has one really good EX move, but all of his Supers are bad, hard to link and are reactable.

    • @KungFoo1
      @KungFoo1 Před měsícem +1

      @@leithaziz2716 he has simple dice roll gameplay, if you guess right on offence his high stun damage can kill you so fast though! No safe pressure iron clad strategy gameplay model, he’s for Spartan players lol. I love it. His long range normals are good for zoning though.

    • @pleaseshutup7053
      @pleaseshutup7053 Před měsícem +3

      Alex is hulk hogan which means he’s on top brother

  • @gustavobraga8199
    @gustavobraga8199 Před 21 dnem

    Question from a newbie. Whats the best way to play 3rd strike on pc? Is the collection on steam the only version available?

  • @mimikyugigas8106
    @mimikyugigas8106 Před měsícem

    as an ultra beginner i've been watching a fair amount of your 3rd strike videos to get familiar with what's what. they've been very helpful! been having the most fun with Elena at the moment

  • @hiverhythm
    @hiverhythm Před měsícem +2

    Yeah, I agree it's a bit of a toss up. I think Chun Li might be a bit more straightforward or easier to play, with good normals, a nice damage and flexible super. Maybe a safer bet, with the reliability of the normals- that seem to usually lead to a super with meter. Obviously at high level, it's not so easy to play Chun against other masters. I think she has good fundamentals which make her strong.

  • @kaiserbts8007
    @kaiserbts8007 Před měsícem +1

    I see Hugo shifting tiers a lot in tier lists, also first time I’ve seen Ryu that high
    You argue it’s SA3, well I would like to argue that red parry also helps Hugo a lot and is universal which could make him a higher tier, though the strengths of each mechanic and character depends on who’s using them

  • @greasygranpapy7529
    @greasygranpapy7529 Před 6 dny

    I've been an unapologetic Hugo main for well over a decade now. There's no way i could do better with any of the top tier characters. He's the most fun Grappler of any SF game imo. I love that slap catching short characters right in the face.

  • @turdferguson2
    @turdferguson2 Před měsícem

    Is there anything that lets you see the move data like this, on older games like Hyper Fighting??

    • @unibrawn
      @unibrawn Před 14 dny

      hf does have a fightcade training mode as well, though not as great as third strike's.
      supercombo is the wiki for street fighter games where you can find almost all framedata listed

  • @wildwest1832
    @wildwest1832 Před měsícem

    That is pretty good tier list. I agree with it

  • @benifited
    @benifited Před měsícem +2

    Oro on B tier is crazy

  • @mee7er
    @mee7er Před měsícem +1

    Making Luke when we had a perfectly good “next generation shoto” sitting on the bench.

    • @Noko744
      @Noko744 Před měsícem

      That next generation shoto was from 1997

  • @wugmup3578
    @wugmup3578 Před měsícem

    idk where i heard this but does twelve have a good matchup against chun li?

    • @jmcrofts
      @jmcrofts  Před měsícem +2

      he can be annoying bc her anti air is complicated, but no she still destroys him

  • @Neverfate
    @Neverfate Před měsícem +8

    As a Remy player.... yeah, just... yeah.

  • @SawedOffLaser
    @SawedOffLaser Před měsícem +1

    Ryu, outside of Denjin, can do a lot of stun. Like I see Ryu players get stuns pretty often, which only makes him stronger.

  • @mellofuego4917
    @mellofuego4917 Před měsícem

    Folks! You're a saint, JM. Thanks for doing what you do.

  • @lemonpug6582
    @lemonpug6582 Před měsícem +2

    Kinda new to Third Strike, why is Yang not A+ tier? He feels like he should be higher I don’t really see a weakness in his game at all

    • @unibrawn
      @unibrawn Před měsícem +1

      limited antiairs and low health, low damage, no real "checkmate" situations like other top tiers can enforce. He has to win neutral many times to take a round, Chun or Yun have to win it twice.
      On most lists he's generally around 6th best with Dudley

    • @lemonpug6582
      @lemonpug6582 Před měsícem +1

      @@unibrawn Thank you I appreciate it

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 Před měsícem +4

    Elena is the hardest character to play against. I can’t tell what to do against her.

    • @GeoGyf
      @GeoGyf Před měsícem

      Elena has janky hitboxes. You have to study her moves in the lab to understand what actually punishes.
      Then again 3rd Strike is all over the place with the balance.

  • @secularteejay
    @secularteejay Před 16 dny

    Elena main here. You can cancel her normals into super. Crouching medium punch can be linked and even confirmed into SA1 and SA2

    • @MVGUY_ENTERTAINMENT
      @MVGUY_ENTERTAINMENT Před 16 dny

      bru can u help me w he disadvantage and combos i just picked her up and shes rlly fun

  • @themajesticspaceduck6798
    @themajesticspaceduck6798 Před měsícem +4

    Sakura and Sean should've been the new Ryu and Ken instead of Luke and Jamie

    • @brandonwilliams6119
      @brandonwilliams6119 Před měsícem +2

      Holy Based!
      However I don’t mind Luke & Jamie, no reason why we can’t have both rivalries

  • @danielchang3213
    @danielchang3213 Před měsícem +1

    No mention to the full stun combo of makoto? Tominaga uses it all the time.

  • @gregski2514
    @gregski2514 Před měsícem

    This sound track bangs

  • @Zenadir779
    @Zenadir779 Před měsícem

    It might be a little much, but it would be really cool if you could make a video about option selects like SGGK

  • @AlgaeEater09
    @AlgaeEater09 Před měsícem +24

    What I love about third strike is that almost NO characters have fireballs. It’s mostly a closerange footsie game

    • @MegafanX123
      @MegafanX123 Před měsícem +13

      But for me this makes the characters thay have it very annoying to fight, also because the of the lack of anti zoning tools outside of parrying(Except Remy, Urien or Oro, incredibly I never or rarely saw them using them)

    • @emperormegaman3856
      @emperormegaman3856 Před měsícem +5

      I think a bit less than half of the cast have at least a small projectile (granted, Chun-li's or Oro for example is a very minor part of their movelist). It's just that with the parry, spamming fireball isn't a good idea.

    • @kaiserbts8007
      @kaiserbts8007 Před měsícem +1

      @@MegafanX123Because they’re low-key kind of ass if that’s what you consider an anti-zoning tool, realistically who’s using CBK, chicken kicks or knee drops to punish fireballs?

    • @unibrawn
      @unibrawn Před měsícem +1

      @@MegafanX123 alex stomp, dudley duck, yang rollkick, 12 airdashes, akuma tp / demon flip, sean roll, ibuki hien and kubiori, hugo's claps eat fireballs while letting him get meter. There are more characters with answers to fireballs than without.

  • @ricanbloodb
    @ricanbloodb Před měsícem

    Gotta see more tier list videos could you do sf vs X-men or mvc 1

  • @clackman622
    @clackman622 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks to this guy Ken on FIghtcade has DOUBLE the amount than before and it was already number 1

  • @JoseMartinez-ol2mo
    @JoseMartinez-ol2mo Před 29 dny

    What’s that version of 3rd strike he’s playing?

  • @dr.wolfstar1765
    @dr.wolfstar1765 Před 28 dny

    Can you do this for MvC2?

  • @TheOldschoolBrotha
    @TheOldschoolBrotha Před měsícem

    Twelve best parry punish is raw super, which does great damage

  • @choomummmaa4527
    @choomummmaa4527 Před měsícem

    How would i download and play street fighter 2 online anyone got links plz and ty

  • @Mario_bland
    @Mario_bland Před měsícem +1

    Maybe 3s has changes aince i used to watch regularly but dont most people use sa1 instead if denjin? His ex moves hit like a truck and they dont need setup like denjin does. Also since you wont have meter post denjin stun its not a guaranteed kill after.

    • @thatnerdcalledzanni3957
      @thatnerdcalledzanni3957 Před měsícem +3

      Yes the meta changed. Denjin setups have changed the way the character is played.

  • @rlclark50
    @rlclark50 Před měsícem

    Ah, was hoping you'd rank Gill as well.

  • @glawrk2861
    @glawrk2861 Před dnem

    30:38 I appreciate you trying to be all mysterious but you can still see the characters in the timer thumbnails.

  • @thisnameisboring6005
    @thisnameisboring6005 Před měsícem +1

    Have you ever played at a local or major?

  • @H0tDawgWater911
    @H0tDawgWater911 Před měsícem

    My homie plays a mean makoto… cool to watch

  • @dboygreenz
    @dboygreenz Před měsícem +1

    Excellent vid, also great commentary at combo breaker!!!

  • @ajshiro3957
    @ajshiro3957 Před měsícem +1

    J Wong approves

  • @r1konTheAutomator
    @r1konTheAutomator Před měsícem +1

    26:54 - I remember when I saw makoto for the very first time in 99. I was a shoto player so the fact her walk was SUPER slow and she didn't have a fireball or DP...phhh what a shitty character. Then I saw the J video where he played Kokujin and double perfected him and was like "... what?!" then I saw the video, I think one of the OG ones, where ppl in Japan started the "EY EY EYYYYY!" thing. I thought it was the coolest thing I've ever seen. Since that day I'm the worst longest playing makoto on the planet but holy shit is she fun 😂

  • @dereklewis4321
    @dereklewis4321 Před měsícem +1

    12 will forever be my favorite character despite being doodoo

  • @Pk_blu
    @Pk_blu Před měsícem

    U can cancel fmk into chop with makoto ?? 28:00

  • @morgz8477
    @morgz8477 Před měsícem

    Bro you NEED to do super turbo tier list

  • @billyblanx1434
    @billyblanx1434 Před měsícem

    What was the purpose of making moves unsafe on hit?

  • @RigbyIsTheMan
    @RigbyIsTheMan Před měsícem

    No mention of the taunts?

  • @augustojacques2145
    @augustojacques2145 Před měsícem

    I wonder how a tier list made based on each of the 3 super arts would be...

  • @bawitback
    @bawitback Před měsícem

    Good video, as a Remy/Necro, Twelve main for years I enjoy the challenge. Agree with your ranking placement especially top 4.

  • @binofbread6975
    @binofbread6975 Před měsícem +4

    Yang for SF6 COPIUM

  • @eutimiolongoria4696
    @eutimiolongoria4696 Před měsícem

    I think the common consensus in 3rd Strike regarding the best character is that Yun beats Chun in the head to head match up. But Chun, as you said, has more favorable matchups across the cast. Plus she is far more accessible than Yun, who requires more effort to maximize his potential.

  • @djcwittz3012
    @djcwittz3012 Před měsícem

    This video could impact the outcome of SF3rdS Evo this year

  • @someguyik
    @someguyik Před měsícem +12

    Remy should be F-tier because he's French.

  • @Taziod
    @Taziod Před měsícem +3

    Can you do a video for beginners on how to get into Third Strike? I notice you have some cool training version of the game and I know you can play it on FightCade but I don't know where to begin.

  • @markalexander6036
    @markalexander6036 Před měsícem +7

    So, you mention towards the end of the video that Yun and Chun go pretty even. However, I've heard many people claim that Yun actually beats Chun pretty consistently, and I've also seen this represented in match-up charts for all the characters. I used to consider Chun the best character in 3s, but my friend once made a pretty compelling argument that Yun is, in fact, the #1 because of this one deciding factor.
    Yun beats Chun, and he beats everyone else. Chun loses to Yun, but she obliterates the rest of the cast even harder. According to a global match-up chart, Chun would appear to be the better pick. However, Yun winning against the most difficult match-up in the game (Chun) is a pretty compelling argument for him being the true #1. Many people would argue that (Yun) having universally good match-ups is more important than (Chun) being especially dominant in a handful of match-ups.
    In short, the argument goes: Yun has no losing match-ups, while Chun has one losing match-up (Yun). Therefore, Yun is the #1 character.

    • @jmcrofts
      @jmcrofts  Před měsícem +8

      the troll response is Chun players are so carried they think they lose an even matchup ;)

    • @markalexander6036
      @markalexander6036 Před měsícem +1

      @@jmcrofts ...I'd believe that too, lol.

    • @letsblocking
      @letsblocking Před měsícem +4

      It's the opposite in high level play, if anything Chun beats Yun or it's an even matchup at best.
      She counters dive kicks really well, has good anti-GJ options (cr jab, kara throws), wins the neutral game, she can punish GJ activation from 2/3s of the screen with super. Yun also has relatively weak defense/hp which is a problem against Chun.
      The great advantage that Yun has over other chars is that he's the only one who can force her to be active because GJ charges up so quickly. But she can afford more mistakes than he can and as soon as she gets super the risk/reward ratio becomes too messy to try to pressure without GJ.
      They're both broken. That said, no one else fights her better than Yun which is why she's the best character in the game.

    • @makavelimusolini1036
      @makavelimusolini1036 Před měsícem +1

      @@letsblocking Agreed. Yun does well but overal Chun is better and at least even or even plus vs Yun.
      The only characters that beats everyone is Gill. But he's not legal.

    • @pat777b
      @pat777b Před měsícem

      @@letsblocking Okay, it's only one tournament but why did Yun dominate Evo 2024 Japan if what you say is true? Is Evo 2024 Japan not high level because 3rd strike has been out of the competitive loop for a while?
      Anyways, lets see what happens in Evo 2024 America and other future tournaments.