Your Terrible Video Idea Ruined My Week
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2023
- You asked me to use CDs as an external game drive and it ruined my week.
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Sounds great already, let’s peer pressure him more into doing stupid stuff!
dawid does stupid stuff...
i dig it!
Dawid eats paste...
Deal
good idea
+1
David explaining how a CD drive works to us like we're all 7 year olds is hilarious
Makes me feel young :)
Imagine not being 7 years old. Couldn't be me.
that is the exact drive i have in my pc.......now i really feel old
im 20 and never herd or seen a cd in my life
I'll be 7 X 7 years old this year and I still use a CD/DVD drive from time to time.
My PC still has a built-in cupholder slot. Never knew they could be used for magic storage disks too!
I have an external cupholder. That way I can have as many cupholders as I want.
Dawid saying: "half life takes 40 minutes to beat" makes me think that he is a professional half life speedrunner, it takes me 2 hours to get to surface tension 😂
I think the fact that this was a really annoying video would make the sender of the E-mail even prouder, lol.
😂
Glad we could help
😂
I think this is the first time I've actually seen Dawid legitimately angry at the end of a video and it is palpable, I laughed out loud at how he said "bye" xD
5:43 10:22 That's because it is the motherboard's boot priority setting.
By default, it is set to boot off external dvd drives and usb drives even if there no bootable disk inserted.
One can change it in the motherboard settings to prioritize the internal nvme ssd.
ohhh
yeah I was suprised he didn't catch that either. Working in IT I can't tell you how many times I've fixed a computer that won't boot by changing the UEFI from trying to boot from some random secondary storage HDD or USB
I remember the fear of buying my first case with no physical drive "slots"... was terrifying
I absolutely love the clean front without any disc drive :)
Not had that displeasure, all my cases have at least 2 5 1/4 drive bays as I still use optical media a lot for backups
@@simonupton-millard why though?
@@simonupton-millard usb to optical media exist.
@@vinylSummer My computers have data that's verry important to me, so Have key data backed up on blueray weekly , all my data backed up on on the cloud, Backed up on a Nas in a different building and my VMs backup there data to a different nas 100 miles away at my in-laws, once nearly lost all my data when my pc was stolen but luckily police got it back, so made sure not to make that mistake again
It would have been easier to just install the game to a hard drive, then copy the steam folder over to the CD/Blu-ray, add the CD/Blu-ray as a library folder and then run it off that. Although if you try to run any modern game off a Blu-ray you're going to have a stuttering nightmare so bad I can't even imagine it.
Yes! honestly CD-RW drive where fiddly bastards even back in the hayday, i cant even imagine trying to write files to it in real time over a "pre arranged" cd folder of some sort.
That was exactly my thought on how to do it. Install it, then move it.
Just the thought of downloading directly to the disc is painful.
Exactly, he really made it harder on himself lol.
@@TravisTravels Funnier to watch i guess🤔
@@TravisTravels I think that was the point. He really looks the M-part of SM...
7:30 You're the MVP of the year for accurately describing the sound of optical drive data seeking. "After a full minute of what sounded like two transformers furiously having sex with a fax machine" .
he created the ultimate computer virus on cd🤣
I feel like a sadist for enjoying your pain this much lmao
isn't that more of a sadist thing
@@Leurak thank you, I was having a brain fart when I wrote that. I'll edit it 😅
5:48 has happened to me before. To my understanding it has to do with the BIOS/UEFI trying to detect the disc media and if its bootable which slows down the Boot process. Same thing happens with a PC that has a hard drive that is faulty (i.e. bad sectors).
Oh yeah I forgot about that issue. And a corrupted disc that was unfinished (interrupted) can cause it to hang up also.
Yeah, sounds like the computer tried to boot from the disc.
I too like to keep the good old floppy -> CD -> HDD order (depending on what is installed obviously) , just so that if I need to boot from it, I don't have to enter BIOS to reconfigure stuff.
This is what I thought too. I had a Linux distro on a repurposed hard drive and one day my boot times went from a few seconds (windows boot drive is an nVME SSD) to like ten minutes. Unbeknownst to me, the hard drive with the Linux distro died. Once I removed it, I was back to my normal boot times.
yeah...he screwed up the TOC on the disc when he aborted the copy.
@@richardsinclair7661 Had similar experiences with dying hard drives and that's how I learned that it can happen. Had a hard drive dying (conetents can be just files or have an OS like Windows or Linux, doesn't matter too much in this context) and was really slow and unplugging it and instead booting off a Linux Live Environment on a flash drive was faster funnily.
But in Dawid's case seems to be just the BIOS detecting boot devices and the disc drive not being able to read the disc being the slowest point that's slowing everything else down.
That "> 1 year remaining" had me in tears! 🤣
lol i was just getting a patch for a game i have on steam and it said 40 hours left......it went back to normal after a few minutes. i think it might have to do with something were unaware of.......big brother is watching us
Same 😂😂😂
Same thing happened to me when installing a game and the internet went out for a brief moment.
Legend has it if Steam shows you that message for more than 15 minutes, it messages your mother to call you and check you're doing okay.
Haha!! Yeah I don’t think I have ever seen that before.
That "BYE" felt quite personal
This is why we are here Dawid :) Love that you always try as hard as you can to fix the funny random problems :D
That disc drive was so expensive because it supports LibreDrive, so you can read any region disc, as well as UHD (4k) discs
M-DISC feature too, for high quality discs that won’t rot
@@Skradgee Or so they claim :D
Yep, hard to test something that's supposed to last over a lifetime. Still if they last longer than normal that's already a win.
@@Skradgee The M-DISC claims are kind of shaky for Blu-Ray in particular. Regular Blu-Ray discs also don't have the organic layer that is normally responsible for CDs/DVDs 'rotting' away. I doubt there will be much difference in longevity.
UHD (4k) playback on PC is pretty much broken. They went to hard trying to stop piracy. There's a bunch of road blocks that will prevent being able to playback media, like having to have an Intel CPU from a specific time frame. No AMD support at all. It's pretty annoying as I have that drive, and my PC is next to my TV.
Maybe I could build a "retro" box for UHD (4k) playback, I have a couple old i7 systems...
so Windows doesn't necessarily care that there is a disk in the drive...it cares that it's a CORRUPTED disk in drive. disable booting from external media in the "Boot Sequence" section of your bios. once the installation fails, a resume call has already been placed on that part of the disk space so installation can be resumed like on a HDD/SSD/USB...but that "resume" function doesn't work on CD/DVD/BR disks and there isn't even any formatting you'll be able to do to revive it. since that space has been write-protected to allow verifying the files and "resuming", Windows tries to read the disk but can't make heads or tails of the data as that "resume" call on the disk acts as an "execute" call instead, so it locks up and can even do so before the system has booted if the media is still in the drive. Windows also remembers that there were operations in progress during a lock-up/reboot/sleep and wants to try and continue from there as well from memory...and we all know how Windows handles resuming functions from memory.
it's been probably 14 years since i've actually encountered this issue anymore and i'm having nightmare flashbacks seeing it happen again 😂
Thanks for the nostalgia 😂
@@GregoryShtevensh haha, anybody who failed trying to burn a Hirens Boot CD or a Windows XP/7 recovery or installation disk knows this pain 😂
@@dragonhart6505 this is why you verify YOU ALWAYS VERIFY!!!
@@profosist those checksums will get you every...friggin...time without fail aint? the fact that Windows still tries to boot from .exe files in the root of most media...how have we not gotten past that yet!? it's not like i forgot i had popped my Commander Keen floppy into the A: drive, grow up Microsoft! and Windows XP Black Edition > Windows 10/11 lmfao
The BIOS is not the problem I'm pretty sure since it's beginning to boot into Windows first before it crashes. The BIOS looks for boot files on the disc and if it can't find them, it should just skip it and move on to the next drive in the boot sequence.
Besides. Modern Windows is a buggy piece of shit these days anyway.
A previous commenter once wrote "these videos might not always get there in the end but they are fun to watch"
I actually appreciate the part where Dawid tried to explain how cd's work just in case there are viewers who won't have any experience with them. I wish more tech channels did this when using older tech.
Great video, very informative about how slow old media is and why no one should be using cd's or dvd's for storing games any more
There's a lot of channels showing how to handle old vintage retro PCs. It's just they are running under the radar.
@@gamtax They're not under the radar, they just aren't often aiming at this younger audience
I remember how excited I was for the first CD-ROM I had in the early 90s. And I just realized I didn't notice how I don't have any spinny silver disk drives in the entire household anymore.
Bruh, you gotta download *then* burn. You can't download it while burning it. I always had disk issues if I tried that way back on xp.
What’s scary is the number of people who needed that explanation of a disc drive lol
Gen Z never seen one of those bro.
@@CC8771 why have i used them then?
@@CC8771too bad
@@CC8771 yeah, i hate how ignorant my generation is towards old stuff
@@LazuliteLol same
back in days games use to run off cd drives. Crazy that times have changed so much .
Him explaining disk drives reminds me that we are seriously at that point where an entire generation of people already don't know what that is and it's scares me
Even worst. The generation which you are talking about can't read an analog watch! (it happened to me a couple of days ago).
That was funny. I would to love to see him explain a rotary dial phone next. Or what a touch tone phone was. Or how not every person with a landline phone could use a dial up modem because not everyone's phone lines could support it.
edit for spelling
why scary. Nobody knows how to punch cards to operate old mainframes either
@@marcogenovesi8570 not scary from a "people are getting dumb" perspective but rather a "damn time is flying by me" perspective.
Shhhh.... Floppies
4:25 Hahaha. The ole' disk space bait and switch! It's like waiting for an NYC subway train that gaslight's you that the train will be along in 5 minutes but eventually turns up after 30 minutes elapsed time.
I've had that happen with city buses, the app says arriving in 5 minutes and the bus just doesn't show up, and I ended up having to wait for the next bus.
What do you mean back in the day. I still use my Blue Ray burner almost on a weekly basis.
Good one! I remember playing games that needed the original disc in the drive, but not to play off it. It was a form of copy protection that everyone hated and cracked NO-CD executables for games that you could DL on shady websites were a common thing. Sometimes these executables were also loaded with viruses, fun times!
The angry sign off made me laugh so hard I nearly peed myself. Apparently we need to peer pressure him into making more hilariously painful content like this!
Honestly the best content on the internet!! Keep it up!! great work
1Year remaining that can't be good🤣
Rather than installing directly to disc, couldn't you have installed to ssd, created a new Steam library on the CD/whatever and just move the files through Steam?
You should email this idea to him
@@STORMFIRE07 agreed
I remember doing that back in the days those two games originally come out, and things worked decently well then. While it was still slow, it's obvious that optical media support has been deprecated.
Watching this with a tear in my eye. Looking back at the times when a game took 5 CD-Roms! Looking at you Baldur's Gate! 1994
Next video: Dawid explains what physical books are while trying to use it as storage media for a game
I mean.....maybe if he printed out the game code...and to load the game he had to scan the pages with OCR....you know, I'm sure some madman could actually make it work with smaller games. XD
Why not install then MOVE to CD?
I "like" Dawid's videos before I've even seen them, cause they're THAT good :). Keep up the great work!
The two transformers and a fax machine caught me off guard. I laughed so hard.
I actually knew everything he did wrong from the get go, because of working with discs for a huge portion of my life
Not using a 64x CD drive was mistake one!
@@rainbowbunchie8237 Because CD-RW doesn't have write speed that fast?
You should do this with USB2.0 flash drives configured in a software RAID0
That'd be some janky setup, Windows refuses to allow this.
Two iscsi network shares perhaps?
Genius.
On unixoid systems you can do it. I've seen people RAID a bunch of USB drives on Mac. Yes it works, but if you throw all the drives on a hub, you'll still be limited by the connection between hub and computer.
Bonus points if he tries it with the crappiest drives he can find that barely even qualify for USB 2.0 speeds.
Yes, but USB 2.0 flash drives that intentionally use the cheapest & slowest flash chips with < 5 MB/s!
How about using formatted rewritable blu-rays in raid0
Now that would be interesting
As a data archivist, the idea of a computer without an optical drive is madness. Thankfully large companies (including the likes of Corsair) still make MANY new cases with multiple optical drive bays.
This hands down is one of the funniest videos you've ever made ! I was laughing from start to finish man.😂
Next up RAID0 the CDs for even higher capacity and speed WCGW
Write him up an email and send this idea to him!
Then do 100s of floppy disks in raid0
Your PC didn't boot because the CD-Drive is set higher in the boot priority in the bios. Make it lower and it will work.
I literally was looking around for a vid like this but could not find one. Dawid to the rescue
"Whoever sent me that email I hope you're proud of yourself"
Oh Dawid I am indeed very very proud of myself and your pain and suffering exceeded my expectations. All according to plan! 🤣
Dawid explaining a disc drive like they've not been used in decades is making me feel really old...
I don't get why he's even explaining it, they're everywhere.
Almost every car on the road has one, and the majority of computers
@@rainbowbunchie8237 for future generation that never get to use or see one
"Until the next one, BYE" lmao. I felt that man. hahaha
I love how the port on the back of the drive still had the IDE cutouts on it.
The question on all of our minds: CAN IT RUN DOOM?
Yes, did it back in the day, burned doom and quake to a cd to play at school (got round there lockdowns on installing software)
My GZDoom folder is about 25 MB in size. The Doom 1 IWAD adds another 12 MB, the Doom 2 IWAD about 14 MB.
I'd say yes, yes it can run Doom!
@Simon Upton-Millard I did a similar thing in my school days, except with Worms World Party and various emulators.
I wonder what loads faster. The PC version of Half-Life running from a CD, or the PlayStation 2 version of Half-Life also running from a CD. I smell a follow up 🤣
I don't smell a follow up. Dawid probably never wants to do this shit again for as long as he lives.
This video made me chuckle remembering the speeds of optical media. I haven't had an optical drive in over a decade and I don't miss them.
And now use an old iPod as a boot drive!
See DankPods for this.
@@rainbowbunchie8237 thats why i suggested it!
@@diamondev1 Sweet XD
could you have not just copied the files onto the disc instead of trying to use steam?
That really would have saved so much time, and a 64x drive would've loaded everything so much faster, 9-ish megabyte reads.
Or even with a non-steam game.
@@rainbowbunchie8237 Correction: 52x was the upper limit on CD drives.👍
Man this dude is hilarious. I remember wanting to see homies videos again but couldn't find the channel. Glad I did tho. I think the video I saw that made me wanna subscribe before I forgot, he said something about a "Hobo Garbage" prebuilt, and I was dying. Lolo!
Dawid rage quitting at the end is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
I always laugh when people explain disk drives like some ancient archaic technology, because I've always used CDs, DVDs, Blu-Rays, and now M-Disks for archival storage and stuff like that, stuff that you want but is also going to sit on a shelf for decades. But then I realize that a lot of the people on youtube now have never seen or heard of, let alone actually used a CD or some other disc format. Makes me feel weird, especially since I'm 22. I'm not that old.
love your videos
You can see how angry is david by only one "bye" in the end
experiments are fun! Thanks for the knowledge Dawid!
For the price of that bog-standard Blu-ray drive, you could've spent not much more and gotten one flashed for 4K rips.
If you're still within the return window (which I'm guessing not) and want to keep a drive (which I'm guessing not), I'd suggest looking into that.
I have a good old no-frills DVD burner in. Does the job perfectly and gets used frequently.
I feel like Blu-Ray never got enough traction to be even worth thinking about. The availability of sufficiently fast network plans and both legal and illegal streaming sources pretty much took all demand out of it.
you did it to yourself, dawid. why blame us for helping you make a video.... 🙁
So you must have been the one that recommended it!
I am fairly certain that the disk drive was set as the 1st boot device by default once you plugged it in. You generally have to go into bios and set it to be the last option or eject the disk like with old floppy drives or it won't boot properly.
Yes, you are correct. I'm 40 and in computers my whole life. Since before SATA ports were on consumer motherboards and after, every BIOS I used had the CD-ROM as the first boot device before the hard drive. The Windows installation disc would actually check for an MBR on the first hard drive to see if it pointed to a Windows boot loader, and it would skip the disk. You could tell because it would say "press any key to boot the windows disc" and it would count down a few seconds and then boot the hard drive, so many people never changed the default first boot device from the optical drive. It would cause an issue with a different disc in the drive if that disc was bootable.
i'm going to add this video to a playlist, so if i'm ever feeling bad and everything is going wrong, i can just watch this and feel instantly better about my day.
The way he said "BYE!" at the end 🤣
totally appreciate your patience on this.... its like running a game from my 386 machine when u need to change a few floppy before u can start playing your game... awesome days🤣
In that case, a fail was a massive win considering how funny the video was 😂 thank you for sharing that painfull experience with us
I am sending you a case of Sony MD-2HD 5.25" Floppy Disk Double Sided High Density to try on.
I love these little lessons on tech! I had never heard of a “blue-array” player before!
Seeing such old games playing off a cd has me MYSTy-eyed.
A very very long time ago, I was experiencing a very odd slowdown issue with my computer. It was running Win 98, and the computer starting grinding to a halt when trying to load any games. This went on for a day or so and I was trying everything. Then for no good reason except frustration, while I was attempting to load a game, I hit the eject button on my CD drive. The game then instantly loaded. I can only assume that when the drive was closed, Windows was trying to read from the drive, even though it was empty. Who knows, I bought a new drive and the issue went away. Right at 5:48 in this video reminded me of that once forgotten escapade.
That transformers/fax machine line absolutely killed me 😂
Ohh I remember this issues, I had DVD burner/reader combo and just DVD reading drive, idk why, Oh yea HD were tiny so I could direct burn from one to another and PC would either freeze or never boot if both were plugged at same time , so I did similar I kept them both on top of the case and kept unplugging and replunging when I wanted to use them , what a wonderful times !
I use that exact drive for ripping blurays for my Jellyfin server. These optical formats might be a thing of the past for most, but not for me.
Never seen hardware induced hair loss, thanks for taking one for the team!!!
I remember in the 90's building a PC with an amazing 4x4 drive. It would hold 4 CDs and read at 4x (no writing in those days). While I still have a portable burner drive and blank discs, I don't use them. I do have a music CD collection, however.
Strangely enough I’ve had the same system instability problems regarding crashing and window’s refusing to boot with a faulty SSD I had. Unplugging it almost immediately brought the system back up to functioning
HAHA yo, you remember the giant book case in the car and turning PAGES of discs to find the perfect song to fit the mooooooood haha
even with da peer pressure the dawg in him never let him down to post da video 🤣
"1 year remaining" had me bursting with laughter. Sorry for the frustration, but the video of it is golden! 😂
Dawid not knowing that most games literally ran off their CDs back in the day is cute
Console games sure but didn't you always have to install PC games and use the disc as a DRM unlocker?
@@captinsparklezremix no. There were minimal installs you could do back in the day. The rest of the data you didn't install because you lacked HDD or whatever would be ready via the CD-ROM.
I have happened to test a game on a blank blu-ray disc myself. Although, the technique I did is install a game on my main drive, then move the game to the disc and of course progress takes a while. But ran really well. The game I have tested on a blu-ray disc is Sonic Origins.
And all these years I thought that was a slide out cup holder, the things you learn at 41 years old....
Before steam, it was common thing to play the games directly from the CD without installing. Because in Bulgaria there were no original games they all were pirated and they were selling the games already installed and not with the setup files in the CD. So we were playing the games directly from CD and it were working just fine. The last games I played this way was NFS Hot Pursuit 2, Serious Sam the First Encounter, Sven XXL, Driver and Half-Life 1.5.
the deadpan/dry humor is beautiful
Wow, I've never seen one of those that can read Blu-rays too. Last time I had one it was for CDs and DVDs, and it could write DVDs at like 8x!
I recently upgraded my pc to a Z690 (previous gen) rig. I downloaded W11 to a flash drive but it refused to install. I then downloaded the ISO version of W11 and istalled it from a DVD. It took a bit longer than a normal installation.
I forgot the exact term, but when the OS detects disk read/write error, it'll slowly and automatically kick itself down to more basic and rudimentary I/O options.
Like it'll go SATA-300 → 150 → 100 → 66 → 33, and then under 33 there is a final "fail safe" that really sucks down CPU power.
If you try and read files from a bad sector of a failing HDD, it'll do this until you cancel the operation.
Or, at least, that's how it worked up until Win7 for me, and I never had to deal with a failing HDD ever since.
I used to run Quake 2 off of a CD-RW, and I would pass that around to friends so we can have a lan party in a school computer lab. The load times actually weren't bad and once the game loaded, ran great. Just ran off the CD
How to turn your modern gaming computer into a PS2, with Dawid. I love it 😂
On my first computer almost 20 years ago i used to have a DVD-RW as my music library.
A true dedicated warrior who continues in his quest to do silly unnecessary and yet entertaining things.
Should have used a SCSI nakamichi five disc CD changer from the 90s. Could have 40 'drives' attached to a computer in their own separate tower. (although only 5 could be mounted at one time)
The issue with booting may have been the pc trying to boot from the optical drive. Removing it from the boot order in bios might fix that.
Glad to see everyone else is explaining why its not booting with a disk in the drive so I don't have to
This is what true hell will be like. Trying to do things that should never be tried.
I had to do the same thing with a blu-ray player to install an old version of Adobe Premiere Pro. Took the back panel off the case to hook it up lol
Oh my god, seeing Dawid talk about Disk Drives like how I remember VCRs as a kid is crazy. I feel old. But hes right, I havent used a CD in probably over 10 years. I did just buy an external CD drive for older stuff I have
I actually own a USB3 BD/RW. The Pioneer BDR-XD05. When looking for a drive I wanted a USB BDRW drive and I think that was the only one at the time.
It was in relatively recent times (post games coming on physical media) and isn't getting a whole lot of use at the moment. Bought it to mostly play movies with a possibility to burn things.
Lol
I got a case for my new build with a disc drive slot on purpose ...cause my family still use them for music in their cars and want me to make CDs for them constantly
Sudden flashback to the "fancy" 5 cd changer drives.
Steam got tired counting and just said "1YEAR REMAINING" LOL