5 Conservatives Rank Themselves on the Political Spectrum
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Kelly saying that she doesn't support the LGBT community while looking like she could go to a pride parade with that dress.
Lmfaoooođđđ
True
Rainbows were never created to represent homosexuality
@@chesneectp bruh
@@funkunko he has a point i used to love rainbow and making drawing them
Kelly just sounding like she doesnât care about anyone but herself đ
Thatâs not necessarily a bad thing lol
@@briibhhaadd world would burn down if everyone only cared about themselves. Listen to yourself
@@melissamartinez599 like in many BLM protests, yeah
thats what conservatism is lol
@@melissamartinez599 you think
Imagine what it must be like to be brave enough to announce for the first time that you are part of the LGBT community and the first thing someone says is âI do not support the LGBT community at all.â Yikes.
True weakness isn't in the body, but the mind. If you have cede an emotional response to words, you announce that words are enough to control you. - Bruce Lee
Not everyone has to agree with you
@@yasmine3989 Not everyone has to just be chill about other peopleâs bigotry either though.
@@yasmine3989 human rights arenât as simple as a I agree/disagree argument and it shouldnât be an argument in the first place but here we are
@@Vic112790 As long as you understand that not everyone has to agree with your worldview
How did you find a black Jewish new Yorker republican?
We the black delegation would like to trade Kelly for Jack Harlow
@@bigdraco2994 i second that greatly.
New York has everything
@@bigdraco2994 đđđ
She must be an actress because she was too much đ
The dead silence after Kelly said âwhy did we send that money to Ukraine? That had nothing to do with us.â Even the other conservatives knew........
They're not conservative at all
She's had her ethical intuition tampered with. My guess would be it comes from (and I'm sorry but idk where else it could come from), but her conservative echo chambers.
@@Johnny.bar99 nothing to do with that. its plain ignorance and lack of brains. theres reason why every western nation is supporting ukraine and its not because they care about ukrainian people. they're just using ukrainians to weaken russia(threat to democracy) which is dictatorship. its like using only weapons and not your citizens to fight your enemy.
you only lose money and not lives of your citizens, which might be case later on if russia succeeds.
@@kngnk815 you clearly donât understand the showâs premise
I donât understand either. Why do we need to give money to Ukraine?
Having political discussion with Kelly seems to be like talking to a brick wall
Brick walls aren't that bad
Youâre racist
Even more funny she supports that wall
Nah, if brick walls could talk, even they wouldnât claim her
Well if Trumps wall would have worked, and it did, why not support it. Guess yall dont live near the border and have to face the immediate effects of illegal aliebs pouring over into our nation now
Producers knew exactly what they were doing when they turned the music off when Kelly said we shouldnât be sending money to Ukraine.
Have your thoughts on that response changed now? The polls have moved considerably on it! Now Kelly's position is hardly rare or ridiculous.
60 billion
Kelly is the definition of a person that is all talk and doesn't listen to other people
Disagreement is not the same as ignoring.
That awkward silence when Kelly said not to support Ukraine lmao đ
Yeah, the blonde girl was def trying not to laugh when Kelly asked Why the U.S sent money to Ukraine.
Itâs a great point tho. Ukraine is a rather worthless countryâŠ. Americans need help too, why does Ukraine come first?
i'm happy she got to experience that shame & embarrassment for a second lmao
Not the Ukraine military, but the people.
I started physically cringing
Navi carried the whole episode with initiating the conversations
Haha thanks, that's really nice of you to say. The whole reason I came on here was to dive into the perspectives of other conservatives who I may not agree with entirely. Kelly, for example is much different than me and it was also interesting to hear Cameron and Hunter's perspectives. I was genuinely curious about their worldview and I'm glad I got to see that! -Navi
@@JaiP108 Navi! youâre clearly very smart and brought a nuance to the conversation that was necessary! Iâm interested as to why your response is often âI completely understandâ to responses you seemed to disagree with. Do you âcompletely understandâ or is that just an automatic response to avoid ridicule or confrontation?
â@@sam-cn8tu I appreciate it Sam! When I say "I completely understand" when someone says something, it's moreso just a method of conveying that I'm actively listening to their perspective/opinion/comment. For most of what was discussed in the video, I was able to understand what my fellow conservatives were saying, and though I may not have agreed with all of the opinions shared, I tried to convey that I understood their perspective so they felt heard. -Navi
@@JaiP108 Most conservative would qualify you as a liberal. They are already doing that in the comments.
@@JaiP108 Navi youâre the real one in this video my guy đđ»
I think Maui honestly summarized the general view on abortion. Nobody wants abortions, but they're necessary for protecting women's health.
Bro whatâs Mauiâs ig this dude looks like Gigachad
Why are they necessary?
@@time_for_toast4922 Is it not obvious, some women aren't in the condition to have a child and aren't in a position to have one. children are draining and expensive too
"Protecting women's health" ??? What about the health of the unborn child?
@@jonesr227 They are literally unborn. Its not gonna hurt them or anything
When Kelly said she didnât support the lgbtq+ Community she looked at Navi dead in the eye đ
But also congratulations for Navi for coming out đđđ
Kelly seems to think sheâs the only person walking this planet with a political opinion that matters.
LMFAO seethe, kelly is based
@@laxxdood sheâs just a New Yorker.
Kelly doesn't consider that the witch hunt could just as easily be targetting her, at which point it wouldnt be about moral superiority but just the reality of living as a target. But if she wants to arrogantly insist that upholding that order onto random strangers makes her just super well ok not the first waste of a brain.
@@laxxdood đđ
Are you from New York even?
I really liked Navi, he seemed so open minded and willing to listen to other peopleâs opinions respectfully.
I love hearing other people's opinions, world would be so boring if we all thought the same way! :D -Navi
@@JaiP108 proud of u for coming out, even though we donât share many values, itâs still a brave thing to do !
no
@@grainofsalt2113 yes
@@JaiP108 I love u sm. I'm glad that there are some people under the 'conservative' umbrella that support and are part of the lgbtq community as well as being wary about the environment. Thank you :D
I love that Cameron isn't just focused on abortion but is talking about ways to decrease the number of abortions and give women better public health, i.e. free birth control and educating women on birth control (and men too but that's just my belief idk if she believes that), and fixing the adoption agency.
-I'm not surprised that such a compromising positive comment got so many likes. I stand by my comment, however we also need to acknowledge that several of these Republicans were against some people having basic human rights
Abortion should be completely outlawed.
just literal common sense lol, if safe sex and preventative measures were taught instead of just abstinence there wouldnât be a need for so many abortions.
I wonder what she thinks about gun violence against abortion clinics and schools
@@shankeduu ong
@@Jahu-qs2us me too
Kelly saying I'm very against the LGBT community and then immediately saying I'm not anti-gay or anything made me spit out my tea đ
SAMEEEE I LEGIT SNORTED
You realise that you can be against parts of the lgbt community and support others? Because being gay is very different from being transgender. Concept of transgenderism is delusional.
Except she literally didn't say that?? She said she doesn't *support* it. That's not the same as saying you're anti-gay.
I bet you Kelly didn't understand half the questions in the compass test hence why she was in the middle. She is definitely the most conservative.
exactly i also feel the same
I bet she did understand the survey and answered truthfully, but has been so influenced by her social circle that she doesnât even realize sheâs not that conservative. People mirror their surroundings without giving much thought to how they actually feel, but properly written survey questions account for that and know how to get to the truth of the matter.
@@countessofmontecristo3849 I would disagree with this statement purely because she came out into the libertarian section, when almost everything she said was authoritarian. You canât be libertarian whilst also being anti LGBT rights and anti abortion.
Or she just said âagreeâ instead of strongly agree, her absolutism alone would bump her up 1 or 2 spots.
tbh i think it shows that political beliefs and ignorance are two different things
âI do not support the LGBT communityâŠIâm not anti gay or anything, I just have very traditional valuesâ girl what
She said what she said.
@@wittyusername9544 and she sounded goofy
@@wittyusername9544 yeah and what she said made No sense
Thatâs called being neutral.
It's her choice
I have never seen a more liberal looking group of conservatives!
b/c they're simply not conservative.
@@rileybuske1265 listen to them, they are.
Most are pro gun rights
Support the constitution and the amendments
That is the basics of being conservative. In addition to preferring capitalism and mostly a free market economy.
@@savannahhalm lots of liberals are pro gun and support the constituition. The difference between a conservative and a liberal is mostly religion.
@@markelcreek56 I donât think so. I am a former Liberal, it is a lot more than that
cameron is someone i could have a conversation with. kelly is like all the family members iâve argued with like a brick wall
Kelly really doesn't seem like she's open to hear any discussion about views that are different to her own, which is more sad than anything
Whatâs the point of discussion? She said nothing wrong.
Thatâs how a lot of conservatives/ people with that type of mindset are. I will give her props though for not being overly disrespectful
@@leanon9220 I mean she looked at the guy that JUST came out as bisexual and said "I dont support LGBT people", that was ice cold
What did you want her to do? Change her opinions just because someone said something else?
so... a conservative
I actually found my self really liking Cameron be because while some of her opinions I disagree with she kept an open mind about things and with some things like when she said she still saw people as a human being no matter their pronouns and stuff. I thought that was really cool.
Exactly!! Kelly on the other handâŠ
respecting someone's pronouns but voting against their human rights is not "really cool"
@@amberfirexx9 true
Also the fact that she was coming up with solutions, although im for abortion I defiantly agree that there needs to be more mechanisms to prevent the need for them as well as more education etc.
@@Random-sk6hm sex education needs to be back in schools
Lets just use Kelly as the wall. I feel like after a 5 minute conversation with her immigrants will be so frustrated they go back home by themselves
omg stoppppp
Kelly is absolutely unbearable. Must be so sad to have such little respect and understanding for other human beings.
Seeing how diverse their views are really strengthens my opinion that we need more than a 2 party system.
In Germany we have multiple parties that each represent different interests and have to work together in the government. At the moment we have a government consisting of the Green Party (focus mainly on environmental issues), the Social Democratic Party (focus mainly on workers and social issues) and the Free Democratic Party (focus mainly on economics). The other parties that were not in the majority at the election are in the opposition. :)
@@sockeeee who do the CDU represent?
CDU stands for Christian Democratic Union and they are more on the conservative side, even though Merkel was quite liberal. With her nor running for the election last year and them being completely "unattractive" for the youth they lost quite a lot of votes and are currently not even a part of the government.
I hope this helped :)
@@sockeeee yeah fair. I was just wondering because usually every country has a conservative side and yet, from my view in the U.K. looking in, the CDU are very⊠centrist. I was wondering whether there is a truly conservative faction/party in the country
@@jamiengo2343 yes, there is the afd who are anti lgbt anti immigrants and so much more, but they still gain many votes...
While I donât agree with many of the things Cameron says, I can at least appreciate that she seems open and respectful about it. Kelly on the other hand sounds like the type of person that would walk up to me, only to call me a slur đ
literally
Feel like sheâs the type where in the middle of a conversation she would call your mom a welfare leech and then act like youâre wrong for getting mad.
EMO girl .
so true I don't totally agree with a lot of the things Cameron said but I'd feel so comfortable and chill talking to her about our different views :D
what slurs exactly?
Navi is extremely smart, I would honestly like to have a discussion with him since he seems the most open-minded and has a mind of his own.
I personally think that Navi should have been on the lower side of the spectrum just based on his answers. Kelly was the most conservative and defininantly should have been on the higher side of the spectrum.
As a Jewish person, I feel embarrassed by Kelly, especially when she talked about how there's no need to help other countries
She's not really jewish judging by her phenotype. She has the more typical african-american conservative profile.
Why should American taxpayers fund foreign wars? That money should be helping struggling Americans.
You donât see foreign countries sending money to America đ„Ž
@@Tsukonin her religion is Jewish, no matter how you feel
@@Tsukonin Wow your ignorance is really showing.
@@bummy777 America has taken enough from the world already
Kelly doesnât seem open to hear anyone elseâs opinions. When she says âi donât understand why youâre saying thisâ she seems to only think her way of thinking is correct and everyone else is wrong. Thatâs the issue i see on both extreme sides of the spectrum
đđœ
I agree, even as a liberal I think we need to listen to the other side.
Your opinion isn't supposed to be based on what's the way of thinking of different people. It's supposed to be on what you think is the best way to do in the future, economically, socially...
PS: obviously my english isn't the best sry
@@LyadSmain weâre not saying that. Weâre saying be open minded
@@LyadSmain you obviously didnât understand my comment. Thereâs a different between sticking to your own opinions and beliefs and being unable to listen to any other perspectives because youâre too set in your way of thinking. If we all only believed what we believe without being open to different perspectives then we would all live in our own personal echo chambers and that doesnât nothing for growth.
Navi is such an intelligent and insightful soul, so much respect for his responses to everybody, we need more people like him
I find it telling that a group of conservatives voted the person with the most ignorant rationale as the most conservative.
Because that makes up the republican base.
When Kelly made that comment about âwhy should we support Ukraine what does that have to do with us?â the silence was deafening. I bet she was only in the middle because she didnât understand half the questions on that test. đ
We are wasting money in helping them instead of wasting that money to struggling American's. Especially what everyone is going through now. Now parents are struggling to buy baby formulas & the people inside the White House aren't doing nothing
Why is it our job to help fund them? I understand hekping the citizens but why aid their military or govt? Not our job.
@@rublex1484 bro itâs a humanitarian crisis
Timpe stample please
@@lukehapter4781 Because "first they came for the socialists"
Kelly made a fool out of herself this entire episode
We can take care of our own people, but people like Kelly would be against it.
By being a conservative, y'all really don't understand the point of jubilee do you?
@@15jewjew she could be independent and her statements would still be ignorant and bigoted.
@@katielowery1925 Not getting the point. Yes people have opinions that aren't what you agree with that's the whole reason for having these. It's about conservatives, why are you surprised when a conservative have conservative view point. You called her the bigot, but a bigot is someone intolerant of another's view point. Which is what a lot of y'all do on the regular with jubilee.
in what way
Kelly: I donât support the LGBT community
also Kelly: *wearing a rainbow hearts dress*
Navi is actually the LEAST conservative, I feel like I can have a conversation with him about anything and still feel like his listening unlike Ms.Kelly!
Kelly is like the âThatâs not vegan!!â girl of this episode
Why because she has logical beliefs than majority of the insane people in the US?
@@xomnipresent8913 or Derick
Youâre racist
Facts
@@xomnipresent8913 Just because her beliefs align with yours doesnât mean sheâs objectively âlogicalâ. Sheâs using absolutes in a political discussion thatâs built off of grey area. Come on dude.
congrats to the guy who came out as bi! It takes a lot of bravery and acceptance to come to that point! đđđ
@@The.rapist911 rot
@@The.rapist911 Iâm sorry that you have so much hate in your heart to comment this
@@vojta4045 a bit far mate
@@brolacoleo1619 Nah
You are the reason this country is going down the toilet. People like you that thinks itâs more brave to be trans or gay than to fight in war for this country. People have it completely backwards
Navi & Cameron are the real champs of the video for being so open-minded to otherâs opinions
Love how racially diverse this group is even if I'm not conserative myself, it's cool to see
it's not diverse at all though... it just seems that way cause they're wearing bright clothes and isht
@@lwbb4156 two white people, one Mexican, Indian and black woman. That's about as ethnically diverse as you can get in a group of 5
Kelly seems to be âconservativeâ just because sheâs homophobic. She didnât talk about many things other than her homophobia and isolationist attitude.
She didn't express a phobia at all
@@DD-rh2sz she very much so did.
@@DD-rh2sz uhm she did multiple times
@@sipssometae7283 Not supporting something isn't diagnosed as a phobia.
@@DD-rh2sz it literally is. Transphobia - dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people.
I like this because it shows not all Conservatives think the same. It shows there is a spectrum just like with many things in life, so I appreciate this.
they are all vile disgusting people
Unfortunately the way jubilee is though it manufactures that image instead of it genuinely being the case. If you took a random sample of 100 people from the US population, Iâd be surprised if 1 of them was a black conservative. They always bring black conservatives on and it distorts how people view black conservatism - where people donât see it as the very fringe and uncommon thing to be that it is.
That should have been a given.
Yeah! Thereâs a spectrum for the various ways you can be ignorant & a terrible person!
@@emmabunch-benson4795 I wouldnât call you a terrible person but the usage of the word âignorantâ shows great irony in your comment.
I feel so bad for Navi bc he literally just came out then Kelly was like I donât support the lgbtq+ Like damn way to rain on a manâs courageous moment
Lol exactly like he just had the courage to do that and she just threw a rock of " I dint support the lgbtq+"
Was she supposed to pretend to support them or smthn lmao
@@EPlTHANY she wasn't suppose to say anything like the rest of them did. There is a time for everything
@@hopeintruth5119 Bruh she's on a show specifically to talk about her political views, tf do the mean there's a time for everytbing?
@@EPlTHANY again there is timing for everything. The challenge barely begins and she just jump on it. So yeah there is a time for everything.
âI donât support the LGBTQ community but Iâm not anti gayâ oh.
i think this group worked quite surprisingly well together.
Conservatives tend to be collected and smart people unlike...
Not all of them are Palin
They all seem pretty unbearable to be around though
I was actually thinking they could be holding back because they are being recorded. Like-that pause after the Ukraine comment looked like some folks wanted to say something but didnât. I do wish they were a bit more open to discussing their differences in relation to their own. But interesting.
@@littlehalfbreed LOL that pause was because no one else but the 5th guy agreed
Congrats to Navi for feeling comfortable coming out publicly like that for the first time :)
Thank you! Seriously the first time I've said I'm bisexual publicly, I was so nervous! When my parents and close friends see this, oh boy °o° -Navi
@@JaiP108 You did great! Fellow queer desi here also âșïž
@@JaiP108 I just wanted to say that I am proud of you. I came out and was so nervous telling my friends, so I canât imagine how it felt coming out to the Internet.
âI donât think being conservative has anything to do with your political affiliation.â
if i was in this video i wouldâve completely ignored kelly the entire time or just talk over her. girl needs to know sheâs not the only human that has an opinion.
That was the first time that guy had publicly come out as bi and to hear Kelly say she did not support lgbtq community must have been hard. Iâm not against conservatives at all I just wish that some people in society were more open minded.
Edit: sorry if this came across as judgemental or rude this was not how it was meant. I understand they were not shaming him just stating their opinion on the lgbtq community which is their own view.
As someone whose quite active in Conservative circles, I can tell you that 9/10 I meet don't care at all your sexuality. Most oppose like vocal lgbt activists, but if you tell them you're gay or bi (like in my case) it's a non issue to them.
No hate but he probably was not effected. Conservatives have thick skin
@@permets2apollox453 why would someone oppose LGBTQ+ activists
@@daivic and on every election he is basically supporting the same group of people that bullies LGBTQ community.
no-one shamed him they just said they weren't for that so watch video.
This is actually really nice example of how the political compass test isnât accurate at all
So true
It's also an actually really nice example how none of these people are barely even conservative.
it shows that the political compass tries to make the political scientific when it is more social. There are so many factors that go into one labelling themselves conservative and what is conservative in one country could be liberal in another or vice versa.
Honestly Kelly prob didnât understand half the questions lmao
I would love to know what each person answered on the test. I think that would paint a better picture of what type of person we are looking at. Peoples words are one thing their actions are another.
I like the spread love message at the end. At the end of the day we are all people. The worst trait in people is not being about to be friend or have a conversation without fighting with people who have different views then you. No matter what side your on you can always connect on something
they shouldâve taken the quiz BEFORE discussion/ranking each other
Wouldn't have been as entertaining to watch.
@@stephenh694 Yes, the test taken before, but revealed afterwards would be better imo.
but then theyâd know their place on the ranking
When navi talked about why he's a conservative, I couldn't stop thinking that as a European, he would be considered a liberal. Not a social liberal, but definitely a liberal. American politics are so weird???
Because basically everyone has a victim complex, it really has brought the whole country down in basically every aspect
No. European politics are weird, American politics are normal.
@@tomboychan5123 european politics > american politics. Neoconservatives in america are soft asf, completely different from the conservatism in europe.
@@tomboychan5123 well thatâs definitely not true đ
@@tomboychan5123 how would you know?
so proud of navi for coming out!! that takes so much confidence to say, especially on such a huge platform
Why is nobody talking about how Attractive Maui is like bro đ
;)
They missed the most important part. Why they were ranked that way. What answers made them ranked that way?
Jubilee used the economic scale of the test only, so itâs unrelated to 90% of discussion.
yeah them leaving that out made the video feel like an ad for that website.
@@spidermain But I'm still interested because that's how Jubilee categorized them in the end. That still doesn't answer how they answered those questions.
Loved Navi's statement at the ends. Glad they put that there.
Iâll remember that when the Supreme Court sends women back to the 19th century later this year. Sorry but conservatives are not my friends and never will be if they vote for ppl in congress who are against basic rights to control your own body.
I cannot believe we have people in the world like Kelly. Itâs insane how close minded and arrogant some people are.
imo, i feel like a true conservative is more so a traditionalist. Nothing that extreme, but by the book. Patriarchal, church going. buttoned buttons, keeping things within the house/family, a bit closed minded but not for hurting ppls feelings.
Now for the episode, navi and cameron are the mvps. Kelly is...well.. what you'd expect from this episode.
Hmmm close enough. Iâm not really church going, and I would question patriarchal, but I like things⊠As they should be :)
That why? from Kelly after she talked about the US sending money to Ukraine is sickening to hear. It just comes off as complete disregard for other peopleâs lives. Horrible
True, Kelly said so much ignorant stuff.
What about the Russians struggling? Theyâve gotten no help. Yet Ukraine, an equally corrupt and sh*t country, commands money from all countries! Itâs crazy. Ukraine can fuk off if Russia is to fuk off. We have domestic issues.
@Kurocoon when's the last time you ever aided a foreign country?
It's not our country not our people not our problem. what about all the smaller wars going in the world are we supposed to tend to those as well. also why should we help when there are other super powers and why are we the judge but then people say our country sucks. you guys and neither do I know not much about Urkraine besides that it's not Americas problem.
@@lunamagnoona1788 we have stopped entire wars and other countries looked to us for help but the one time people say no there's such an out roar.
I wanna be friends with Navi and I agree with him I feel like their ranking was more accurate bc the political compass test doesn't ask all the most relevant questions
also i feel like some of them (kelly) didnât understand the questions on the test
Aw that's really sweet of you! I brought up the idea of other tests to them but to be fair, I suppose this is one of the more comprehensive tests, I would've probably gone with it too. The PewResearch ones are my favorites, but they are a tad bit short. Political Compass from my pov is meant to evoke certain reactions from people, their questions are too charged for my liking. I enjoyed it though! -Navi
@@JaiP108 Go worship some white men!
Would have been nice to have seen how they answered questions on the quiz. I feel like we could have gotten to know their stances a lot more in depth that way.
This video crushes my hope and makes me wanna rip my hair out - please make more
This is such a weird thing to be "competing" for
Itâs embarrassing they are basically rating themselves on who is the worst person and they probably think they are voting for the best
What a great example of how inaccurate the political compass test is!
And how Jubilee chose people who aren't conservative. shows how people don't have basic understanding of politics
@@rileybuske1265 It's not that they're not conservatives. That test is flawed.
@@nickb1156 no, they aren't conservatives. Only Kelly was
@@Very_Silly_Individual the fact that you only recognize the extreme ends of the spectrum show the problem with American politics and how polarized it is
@@ivanmijacika7230 What? Her views aren't extreme the average conservative would align with her. The fact that you think that shows the REAL issue with American politics.
She's only the extreme in this situation because the other "conservatives" are actually just soft libertarians, and liberals.
Thatâs why I really like this channel. They give everyone a chance to speak, not just who their views align with.
I love how Navi was most logical and in the end when talking about their views he referred to them as flaws xD
7:28 when she said USA shouldn't have sent money to Ukraine, I just got so upset... Ukrainians are fighting for Western world values, that's why it's important to support them. That's just ignorance from her part, tragedy of war and oppression is something that Western world doesn't seem to (and hopefully will never have to) understand and fear of.
I can see her point though. Do I agree with it? Nah.
Of course the war is tragic but thatâs not the question. Why should Americans funnel money into foreign countries to fight their wars when they have their own problems to solve?
Ukraine is just as fash as Russia, they're just our ally. How many journalists and dissidents do they need to arrest before you see that?
since when humans got so selfish? there are gonna be a lot of desths in the war if no one helped and America being one the greater powers and part of being part of NATO.. should help them. sure America has problems too but we are talking about thousands ppl dying of WAR. like the world shouldnt close its eye on that. we are all human but with diffetent leaders
@@armina6311 there will be more deaths the more we get involved.
also the women with glasses is driving me mental she literally doesn't get why america is sending money to ukraine (there is a literal war)
But why should American taxpayers have to fund it? That money should go towards helping struggling Americans
@@bummy777 precisely, people are too afraid to admit this.
@@bummy777 Have you ever looked at how much money the US spends on the military? THAT money could also go towards struggling Americans. Instead it creates more.
Yeah I agree. There was like an awkward pause after she said that Ukraine thing, as if everyone just kinda went "did she really just say that?" Lool
@David Chavezwhat form do you think the help comes in? When itâs tax payer funded- money rarely goes to the people. Itâs spent politically and militarily (ie.. weapons) for the war. Private charities are typically what goes to help people. If our foreign aid actually went directly to people- I donât think there would be poverty in the world today.
Hereâs the thing. If youâre voting for politicians who want to ban all abortions no matter the case, it doesnât matter what you âbelieve.â If youâre voting for politicians who openly hate lgbtq+ people, it doesnât matter what you âbelieve.â If youâre voting for politicians who do not believe in climate change, it doesnât matter what you âbelieve.â
Maui from my state!! How do I get on this show?!
I love that Navi finally said he was bisexual to others! That means alot to him and I'm happy he is finally comfortable to say it to the world!
Your video ideas and production quality is inspirational to all us creators out here JubileeđŻ Thank You. â€ïž
Ok but Maui could be a model
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@@TheSquidMountain whatâs up Maui!
For Maui moisture as well! (Haircare brand)
Navi needs a political/social commentary podcast. Would definitely listen with coffee every Monday morning at work.
As a conservative, I align myself 75% with Navi, 15% with Cameron, and the rest with the others. I also am Bisexual and Mexican. I am against illegal immigration and highly against creating any wall.
Very interesting and thought provoking. As someone with both US and Italian citizenship (but definitely more Italian culturally-wise), I've always been interested in the differences between the two systems. I sometimes think that having a two-party system (like in the US) forces the same identity (ex. "conservative") on persons with considerably different world views. In Italy, where the political landscape is more varied, they'd probably end up voting for different parties.
This video tells me that most people are incoherent when it comes to their political beliefs. Not surprising, but frustrating nonethelessâŠ
Kinda obvious. But yes
yeah a lot of their explanations where contradictory
Not most people. Conservative people.
@@emmabunch-benson4795 lmfao "people who dont think like me are wrong!"
@antjbiotics the irony is palpable
How is Kelly gonna be homophobic like that buut her dress is really giving pride đ€đłïžâđđ€š
They always choose independents for conservatives I swear.
Supporting the second amendment, not supporting LGBTQ, and not giving aid to Ukraine are 3 issues 80% of conservatives can agree on
Quite interesting to see how diverse their views are
Because conservatives are logical people unlike....
Because conservatism is based on values not political beliefs. They share the same values but they all have a mind of their own.
@@The.rapist911 How would having more diverse views as a group imply logic?
@@The.rapist911 Kelly was far from logical
They werenât very diverseâŠ
Many of the talking points they discuss are not âconservativeâ in the broader definition of the term. Thatâs why their rankings were so skewed. Most Americans donât know what a âtrueâ conservative or liberal framework means.
Tell us what it is then know it all Courtney
@@lawtraf8008 conservatives are in the blue quadrant. These people were all in the purple Libertarian quadrant. Therefore they are Libertarians
It's true. A lot of this was just based on tribal stereotypes and not core economic or civil principles. The closest it got was the guy's prompt about interventionalist vs isolationist.
So true. I think Navi scored so high because he must understand political science much more than someone who just knows they support tradition values. Same thing with the libertarian guy. I feel like today's "conservative" party is huge on collective agendas like being anti-lgbtq, anti-abortion, etc. where it is much more based in small government, free-market thought for people who are more aware of political science
@@romanpopyk Kelly was definitely not libertarian but the website listed here as a libertarian
I really appreciated the nuance in a lot of their takes. I think thatâs what makes someone worth having a discussion with. Kelly, for example, is not someone I would enjoy talking to.
A lot of social beliefs are directly related to exposure, the more your around something the less of a "boogeyman" it seems. My sister was super anti- trans for years, come to find out she never met one before. And started to immediately backtrack when she realized her favorite neighbor was one.
its sad that some people only advocate for those they can see though. its a true lack of empathy
conservatives believe in individual liberty. they dont care that a person lives how they want. they do care if they are grooming children or dont accept that males and females are different. if a trans person isnt a groomer and knows they are not the other biology then conservatives wont care
Political views are just opinions they impact peoples lives. I refuse to look at someone as âhumanâ when they blatantly donât support my rights.
ARE NOT***
"Trans people in sports" is still such a weird nieche culture war issue, that the sports orgs are already taking care of themselves. Idk why people are so bothered about it.
Sport orgs only care what people think
Because they'll find any angle to attack the rights of marginalized groups
It's one of the few topics where being trans actually matters. People who disaprove of being trans can't really say anything bad against them just living their day to day life, but they can be upset that they are "ruining sports!".
Because sports is sex based. This literally what yâall preach lmao âsex is different from genderâ itâs acknowledged that trans women are women but their sex is still male. Trans women deserve their own category. Thereâs a reason why sports are separated by sexâŠ
@@zingyburger And in some sports weight class
Both young women and men need to be taught and aware of birth control options.
The comments on this video were generally much nicer and open-minded than I expected. Well done Jubilee community đđ
I feel like the people on the least side of the spectrum are the types of conservatives and liberals we need more of. Theyre open to criticism, challenging beliefs, discussion, aware of other people's situations and overall operate on a fluid spectrum instead of being black and white. People like Kelly are the reason for such a big division in this country's political parties. They're pompous and like to assert their opinions as if there's no way they could be wrong and it lacks nuance.
Yep
Say it Louder for the Kellys in the back!!!
definitely not! they dont represent true conservatives at all
Well said!
These are average conservatives
"I'm not like anti-gay or anything but I do support traditional values in the home" Okay so what I'm hearing is that she doesn't think gay people deserve the same rights as others but she claims to not be homophobic. I may have interpreted something wrong there but that's what I'm hearing.
I'm very supportive of the LGBT community, but some conservative people take a more neutral approach. I would guess that she absolutely believes in the same rights, but doesn't celebrate pride, as an example. Just because you don't actively support someone doesn't mean you're against them.
The two can be exclusive.
@@avitron142 YES.
@@avitron142 I disagree. People like her say âI donât hate themâ but them vote against same sex marriage which is basic human rights.
There's a difference between not supporting the community and not supporting their rights. Conservatives or at least libertarians like a lot of these people are, don't think gay people are undeserving of rights
@Avitron142 is correct. Just because you don't support somthing does NOT mean you don't think they deserve rights. That's the type of jumping the gun conclusions that get everybody hyped up in the first place.
You can support one...and not the other without having malice towards the side you don't support. I don't get why this is a hard thing for people to understand..
Navi was super cool he has a light in him and a joy that makes everyone want to listen to what he has to say plus the fact that he kept the conversation moving
funny how the "extreme cases" train of thought for abortion doesn't also apply to when cameron was talking about human trafficking over the south border as a justification for the wall? hmm
I wish they had shared some questions from the test they took
I just took it and search it from Google. The test was hard
@@connie0613 how was it hard lol
You can take the test yourself. Just look up Political Compass Test , it's quite popular
@@d_pratik1I know, it would have added more context to the video tho
@@theonlythingihavetosayis9333 the questions were hard for me to understand and I had to think them thru
yikes, no hate towards kelly, but definitely dont think i could be friends with someone like her. props to her for being her real self on the internet.
If I was forced to be friends with Kelly, I would definitely try to avoid her as much as possible.
Every time Kelly opened her mouth, I became increasingly nauseous...
Thinking that a government should help its consituents over the citizens of another nation is not being conservative, it is just having common sense.
Congrats to Navi for coming out as Bi! :D it must be very difficult coming from a desi family as well as being openly bi in conservative spaces. wishing him the best :)
Parents haven't seen this yet, oh dear o_O wish me luck! -Navi
Being only gay, lesbian or bi makes you a conservative amongst the silly rainbow cult
@@miliba Don't worry, when I say "part of the LGBT community", the "oppression" circlejerk, for lack of a better term, is most definitely NOT who I'm referring to. Organizations who fight to uphold LGBT rights, people who foster a positive spirit within the community, and my LGBT friends IRL are who I refer to.
Whatâs most important is that this channel continues to show all different perspectives. Itâs a key ingredient for an even bigger conversation. As a part of the LGBTQ+ community I didnât necessarily like a lot of the opinions being expressed but I wonât spew hate or negativity their way.
đ thanks for being sensible.
However I just want to add onto what you're saying and that people are allowed to disagree or be negative about opinions they don't like, especially if it's ignorant. But there is a limit to how you can respond to it
@@gyosob7265 I think people can disagree but once people start acting negatively for things that they believe are ignorant, everyone from all sides of the political spectrum will continue to hate each other like cats and dogs because they think that their opinions are correct and not the other way around. But I see what u mean tho, there def is a limit
One of them basically admitted that people like you should not participate in society
Soapbox moment
the political compass test is really only a measure of the particular issues it focuses on, and answers will vary strongly based on how you interpret the questions and how they're framed. kelly definitely seemed the most socially conservative to me, but navi and hunter seemed the most economically conservative/libertarian which is what i guess the test picked up on.
These are the most liberal looking Conservatives ive ever seen.