Powder Coating A Set Of Wheels From Start To Finish - Video Request
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Now I know why its expensive, alot of prep work . But can't beat the results! Thank u, great job! 👍
Good to see someone actually using the correct technique and settings to powdercoat....Nice one...
Another top notch video. I really like the easy, smooth way you do your spraying. I see so many coaters spraying patches at a time. I can't imagine that they get consistent thickness on the parts the way you do. Excellent! Thank you.
Thank you! And depending on the part and the powder I’m spraying I will do that sometimes where a slight different in the thickness isn’t an issue.
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Looks great! Very nice work. Now I wanna get a set of wheels done now by you!
Great info. I had my wheels powdercoated and thus far even in Chicago winters, it's held up great, though I clean them when I can (time permitting). I would presume it's much more durable than painting wheels over the weather/road elements.
Put me on to the shop you went to in Chicago. Trying to power coat my wheels as well.
@@Dro-Ordanzo I got you - Crown's Customs Coatings - used to be in Addison but recently moved to Wheeling.
@@jeffl1484 awesome thank you bro!
@@Dro-Ordanzo No prob.
Oh man, love the consistency in the application of the spray job. This video ONLY missed, seeing those rims on the ride lol. ALL GOOD THO!
Thank you! Unfortunately I don’t get to see most of my work again once it leaves my shop
@@royalcoatspowdercoating - Sad but good. That means no comebacks.
Great video,our equipment and process is identical right down to the pallet,lol.I just don't like hot flocking unless there isn't a choice
Hello, my name is Annie, it is an honor to watch your powder coating video on CZcams, I am from China, we are one of the manufacturers in Asia that produces and develops electrostatic powder coating equipment, I also know the experts about powder, hope We can cooperate! Looking forward to your reply.
Thanks for this video. I want to get my rims done and wanted to see if I should do some prep work. Naw.... Just let the shop do it. Great video!
Wheel*
amazing..infos.n job.
no clear clear coat applied??
if you dont mind sharing the powder coating product and supplies/ supplier .
I'm been trying to get into it but I'm still scared until I saw this video... thank you
Great video! I prefer watching the whole preparation videos over just short 30 second vids of the whole process lol keep up the good vids! Btw your shoes don’t melt when you stepped in the oven? Lol
Thank you! I try to mix it up so the videos don’t get too monotonous.
No they don’t, but sometimes they’ll start to stick if I stand in one spot for too long lol
Beautiful work. That finish is perfect. I gotta bite the bullet and get a Gema
Thank you! The Gema is definitely a game changer
Great video. Those wheels are beautiful! What powder did you use? Exact brand and part number please. Only one coat? Amount of powder?
For someone just starting out, how much rim strip would you recommend I order? Immediately go for the 55gal or am I able to get away with less than that in the beginning? Thanks in advance dude, great content.
Dude!!!! Thanks so much for making this video. You got me so inspired to do my first set of wheels! I was wondering how much blasting is required after the rim strip? Is it a fairly quick process? I don’t have the biggest blast cabinet. Also I know I’m from Canada but I would be curious to know how much you charge for something like that? That video is going to help a lot of people! 🤙🏼
Blasting is very quick. If you use acid first you are just blasting to etch the metal.
@@GMPC thanks!
Anytime man! Go for it they’re not too bad once you get the hang of it. Rim strip (or a chemical stripper) is definitely a life saver when it comes down to it though.
Blasting probably takes roughly 10 minutes give it take per wheel on my setup after stripped.
Are you asking how much to strip wheels or how much I charge to do a set of wheels?
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I was curious how much you charge to do the wheels for your clients?
@@martinjamesdesigns3748 oh okay sure! So for an average size 20” I charge $100/wheel and then typically every inch up or down from there is +/- $5 per inch. And I’ll typically do the same for wheels over 10” wide. My prices are also based on a basic gloss black. Prices will vary depending on powder cost and type.
Great video I like it when you show the preparation you have to do before powder coating.
Quick question .when you taped the back of the wheels I noticed you did not cut the tape out where the bolts go. Is there a reason for this ?
Keep up the good work
Thank you! That’s a wasted step in my opinion. I’ve never cut out the stud holes when masking the back pad. Do you cut them out and if so, what for?
Excellent stuff! Thanks for that!
As always awesome video and awesome work
They sell a fancy dandy tool to remove a valve stem
Center caps.....what do you do with them? Or do you have your customers just deal with them after???
If the wheels are going gloss black and have a small center cap, I’ll offer to spray paint them if requested. Any color other than that I will offer to spray a sample color for them to get paint matched.
How much per rim?
Wheel*
Hey, thanks you for the content. I have a (newbie) question: what's the purpose of "outgassing"?
Outgassing releases trapped gasses and oils in porous metals so they won’t try to escape through your coating leaving a bad finish
Is your neutralizing tank a mixture of water and baking soda, if so what is your ratio?
I never used a specific mixture. You can use the test strips that they use in pools if you’d like but I’d base mine off the reaction (neutralization) I got when I put parts in. If it bubbles, I’m good. If the bubbles start to slow or go away, I add more baking soda.
It does use a electronic charger to make powder stick,correct?
Yes powder is positively charged and then attracted to a grounded part.
Excellent video!!..I am just getting started myself. Subscribed👍🏼…Aloha 🤙🏽
Awesome man, thanks and good luck!
How much you paid for that big ammount of paint stripper?
It is like 15.000€ here in germany wtf.
It’s a little over $1,000 delivered right now for 55gal
Is that the 4x6 oven you were talking about in your " cost of getting started " video?
Hey man watch alot of your content and it's sick! What Chems do you use for your neutralizing tank?
Thanks for watching! My neutralizing tank is just water and baking soda.
Looks like our satin black
Two questions as I'm getting into doing this myself at my job. How much powder does it take to dona set of wheels? I ordered a lb from Everlast to do my 15" wheels hoping it will be enough,if not I will order more. Secondly...what is the temp of your oven set to and how long do you let them sit in the oven to cure the paint? You may have stayed that already and I missed it. Great vid though. Thanks for sharing
Very good and interesting. I note that you hot flock. Why do you not spray from cold? I have also heard that some people phosphate alloy before powder coating but don't really know why.
Kind regards Paul from 48 Spokes 🇬🇧
I normally do spray cold. I just sprayed these hot for something different.
Phosphate is supposed to help with adhesion but I do not do that process and don’t have any issues.
What about vapor blasting? Just got a blasting cabinet, have everything to make needed mods to make a gravity fed, widen and make it taller and finally top loading capable. Just don’t know if should leave regular blasting or vapor blasting.
If you want to powder coat then leave it how it’s supposed to be. If you want to restore old aluminum parts and leave a nice raw finish, then vapor blast.
So now that I do hotflocking in my videos with the hard stuff I find I like to do everything hotflocking because it's easier. So question do you hotflock everything also or just rims?
I usually don’t hot flock much unless needed. I just coated these hot to do something different. May start doing it more often but for now I prefer to shoot my powder cold.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating Do you personally see any benefit in spraying rims hot or cold? Any advantages for you of one over the other?
@@royalcoatspowdercoating cold is definitely safe. But I love how hot gets everything and no light spots. But it's definitely not the safest way lol. I'm starting to like the hotflock corners and hot spots then do a cold coat to smooth it all out. I love how everyone does things differently and it's all correct
Great video
Thanks
I got a couple questions
What size are the rims
What striper do you use and neutralizer
Thanks again
Thank you! I believe these were 20s.
This video was Rim Strip and the neutralizer is water and baking soda. Here’s a direct link to the stripper! www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
Nice job! I’m excited to try out the Eastwood tips you sent me
Thank you! Hope you like them 👍🏼
Hi from Ireland. I’m looking to start up my own powder coating business but I have 2 questions. 1. What do you use to strip the wheels? 2. What’s the neutraliser you use after stripping? Any help would be so appreciated
Hey! This is rim strip for the chemical stripper and water/baking soda to neutralize.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating awesome. Thank you so much for getting back to me!
Do you use any degreaser after blasting?
I only use air after blasting. I wouldn’t recommend using anything other than air after blasting. Anything else leaves room for contamination; degreaser, acetone, rags, etc in my opinion
dielectric gloves class 3 or 4 nice job
Great job
So you put them to the oven before spraying ? Not after ?
Yes you will cure them in the oven after spraying. I sprayed these hot just for something different although it’s not an ideal method.
awesome video! what did you put in the wheels to run the hooks through them?
Eye bolts from the local hardware store
what size? 5/16" or 3/8"@@royalcoatspowdercoating
great video, what type of chemical stripping do you use?
Using Rim Strip in this video www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
Hello I enjoyed the video! I have a question, when powder coating parts and you want to keep parts marked, I was told you could just use a sharpie and put 3m powder coating/heat resistant tape over the sharpie writing to preserve it ? Does this work, with a normal sharpie pen and the tape, I know the tape works but have you tried this before
I haven’t had the need to try that but I assume it will work.
Great video,as always
Thank you!
Awsome vid! Very helpful to someone like me whose thinking about taking on this hobby. Do you think getting a striptank is worth it if I’m looking to do longer parts like trailing arms etc?
Glad I could help! Strip tank as in one of the fabricated ones? I’m able to fit 90% of my parts in my tub now. The long suspension parts I usually just have to flip over and do the other half.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating yes fabricated. Ah that makes sense. Does the container you have the strip material in have to made of a specific plastic? Where did you get yours from? Thanks ahead
@@Arikos08 it’s an eagle over pack drum I ordered from Amazon. I think it has to be made out of polyethylene if I remember correctly.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating thank you I will have to take a look. I really appreciate the reply.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating where did you get the stripping material from?
Hello there, there is no need to use the primer first? there is so many different advices I get confused. Some people say to use zinc primer first. Thanks a lot
I think the sync coating is just for non metal areas or similar things where the powder coat wouldn't stick
They just going to try and match the center caps with spray paint?
Center caps are left up to the customer. If they want I will spray paint them black but I let them know upfront they won’t be a perfect match. If it’s a different color I will offer to spray a sample card for them to get a paint match.
Amazing💯🔥
Without the weights back in the rims where they were won’t the rims be out of round?
They will need to be re balanced after mounted
Iam in Canada what is a average price for doing a set of 4 rims ? Thankyou , And by the way you do some nice work
Typically wheels will start at a $100/wheel
Do you know where i can get the Hyper silver that Toyota uses on there wheels? I have 09 venza and the hyper silver is what they use. I tried calling prismatic powders but i didn't get a answer for this color. I need to find this color cause I'm redoing my wheels. Any help would be appreciated.
I do not know of a match. Powder is pretty difficult to match paint 100%. You may just have to find something close.
What does your neutralizing tank consist of? Tsp? Baking soda? & how much tsp or baking soda to water ratio?
Baking soda. And just need to balance out with a ph tester
I see lots of powder coaters outgas after they have sand blasted which never made sense to me as if it brings anything to the surface it’s now there, do you still do this same process ? Thanks man great work
Some people do it that way. I don’t agree with it for that reason you mentioned but to each their own! I prefer to outgas then blast.
The incorrect way, but people do it so they can hot flock their wheels straight after outgassing to save on gas/electric bills, half assed
having mine down now by a shop that just did them the wrong color. They are going to strip again and re-do, but does this cause any issues doing it so quickly again? Thanks
This won’t cause any issues to your wheels 👍🏼
thank you! @@royalcoatspowdercoating
Newbie question: is it only one coating thick enough?
One coat is thick enough if applied correctly
@@royalcoatspowdercoating ok thank you sir! More power to you!!
Whats the ratio on baking soda to water?
No specific ratio, I just always made sure there was a reaction when submerging the parts in the neutralizing tank when I was using Rim Strip
Do you do any videos on the differences between the tribo vs corona style guns?
I do not have any of those videos.
Wow nice work, what chemical you using to strip the whells
I use Rim Strip
Rim Strip is a brand
18 inch wheels on toyota sequoia limited estimate to get them powdered coated?
Send me an email royalpowdercoats@gmail.com
How are imperfection handled? Something like curb rash.
Something like curb rash I am usually able to sand most of it out or at least down to an unnoticeable point
Glass beads for blasting?
I wouldn’t recommend it. Glass bead does not leave enough of a profile on the part. I personally use green diamond
What product did you use to get that color. Most of them I see are double shot with chrome first?
These were just coated in gloss black. A chrome base is only used with translucent colors to get the candy effect.
How many passes would you say? They usually do 4 at work mostly
That really depends on the part and spraying technique
I just got some wheels powdercoated that had a lot of sharp edges and i've noticed when i shine a flashlight on them i can almost see through the sharp edged areas. Is this normal or did they do a poor job painting them? I can't really notice this without shining a light on them and haven't had a look at them in the sunlight yet.
This is pretty normal. Powder tends to pull away from sharp edges when curing.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating If this is the case why does everyone say powder coat is superior to spray paint? I inspected my wheels in direct sunlight and it didn’t seem noticeable but it still concerns me. Can it peel in these areas where it’s thin or something?
Where did you get the tape from and what kind is it
Hey! Tape is available on the website. Here’s a direct link: www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/powder-coating-supplies
How long does the coating last ? 🤔
Powder coat lasts a long time!
Chemicals?!
Name please?!
Thank you in advance!
Rim Strip! www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
Which brand of rim strip do you use and do you clean the floating solids out ever?
The product name is Rim Strip by Express Chem. And yes I pull the stuff off the top from time to time.
Damn ever seen powdercoat looking glossy before curing, what brand is it? Also im I doing something wrong because when i apply gloss black it doesnt look reflective like that at all beforte curing
I coated these hot for something different, not the ideal way to coat them though. But I use wet black from tiger Drylac
is it possible to powder coat parts of a wheel for example inner dish of a concave wheel only?
Yes it is possible. But you’d need to completely strip the wheel and re coat. You wouldn’t want to do it over an existing coating
@@royalcoatspowdercoating cheers for the advice
Hi how much powder do you need for 4 17inch rims?
Typically about 2-3 pounds. I usually order 4 pounds to be safe
Thank you! I appreciate the help
What size air hose do you run to your pot blaster? 3/8 or 1/2?
Just 3/8”s. I really need to run a 1/2” line though.
Should fresh powder coated wheels have hairline scratches all-over? I just had mine done through a local Ford dealership that I bought my car from and they tried to tell me because it is black that it will have scratches from being wiped no matter what. I think they don't want to take accountability for a low quality job. There was also some dried up yellow stuff on the wheels and tires, almost like a wax or polish, when I picked it up. I didn't see you put any wax or polish on those wheels so not sure what the hell that residue was from.
Unfortunately if you don’t clear a gloss black wheel you will run into the issue of micro scratching. I always let my customers know ahead of time before doing the job if they opt out of the clear.
The residue you’re seeing could be the lubricant used when installing the tires on the wheels, but that’s just a guess.
Hmm..they didn't give mention an option for a clear coat. They are going to redo them because there was also what appeared to be like tiny craters and dust dried into the coating.
Are you supposed to clear coat them, or is it just 1 coat?
Clear is not required over this black but it could be added. Some colors require clears though.
What type of blasting media do you use?
30/60 green diamond
*What chemicals are you using to strip the wheels?*
I'm using rimstrip www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
If you have any questions feel free to email me royalpowdercoats@gmail.com
Is powder coating reversible? I think I want to powder coat the rims on my leased Tahoe
It is a permanent coating that will need to be chemically stripped and/or blasted and recoated to get back the original finish.
Can you help me with making a stripping tank for rims??
Shoot me an email tyler@royalcoatspowdercoating.com
How many lbs of powder does it take for those wheels?
Usually about 3 pounds
Hii don't have the paint stripper i just have the sandblast first i sandblast then outgass?
I’d sand blast to remove coating, outgas, and then sandblast again to remove outgas contaminants
@@royalcoatspowdercoating what grit to use?
@@richardr2674 30/60 green diamond
Do you powder coat the wheel center cap?
Only if it’s metal!
Hey, what media do you use to sandblast the wheels?
Green Diamond 30/60
Hey man what size air compressor do you use for you blasting
I use a Quincy QT 54. Puts out around 15cfm at 90psi
@@royalcoatspowdercoatingokay sweet weird question how do you reclaim your media ?
What is in the neutralizing tank?
Water and baking soda
How much
What is the liquid after paint remover?
It is my neutralizing tank made with water and baking soda
What is the cost on something like that?
Prices for wheels typically start around $100/wheel
What kinda paint stripper do you use?
This is Rim Strip in this video: www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
What did you do to the center caps
I typically don’t mess with plastic center caps, but sometimes I’ll paint then black if requested by the customer.
I’ll offer a powder coated sample to them if they want to take them to a paint shop to match the color.
How long does powder coating last on rims for?
Powder coating your wheels can last for several years if taken care of.
Hey bud what r u using for ur Rim Strip
The chemical stripper is called Rim Strip. Here’s a link! www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
how long last the strip chemical?
I keep mine in a sealed container. Seems to last several months but that will also depend on how much you use it. I usually just top mine off as it gets low.
What chemical stripper do you use for parts other than wheels?
Rim strip is just the name of the product. I still use the same stuff to remove epoxy, paint, and powder from other parts.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I have wondered that so many times but all I ever see anyone use it on is wheels lol. Thanks man! I appreciate the vids
@@samconner1119 all good, glad I could help!
Why can you just sand blasted
You can. But a garage set up like mine would take forever to get the existing coating removed and can potentially leave an uneven blast profile. So chemically stripping them before blasting is easier for me.
Where do i can find the acid??
Rim strip can be found here: www.royalcoatspowdercoating.com/product-page/rim-strip
How much do you charge for a set of wheels ?
Prices start around $100/wheel
What do you charge ? And where are you located
Send me an email royalpowdercoats@gmail.com
Located in Spring, Tx
What CFM are you running on that blaster
15 cfm
I had it turned way down to about 40 psi in this video
Is that just water and baking soda?
In the neutralizing tank, yes. I needed to add more baking soda in this video.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating I’m just getting started but how much do you think I should dump in for 10 gallons of water?
@@juancanchola7330 you could get some test strips and keep it above 7 on the ph scale if you want to be technical or just dump a pound or so in there and when you put your pieces in after stripping it should bubble pretty good. If it’s not bubbling, add more.
@@royalcoatspowdercoating is there anyway to message you if I have some questions when I get my gun ? Without commenting haha
@@juancanchola7330 for sure, you can reach me on my email royalpowdercoats@gmail.com
Wooof bro.
You need more caution around that chemical. I just think of the thousands of people who are watching this video who don’t realize how dangerous that rim strip is. Not setting the best example my dude.