Class on Plato's Republic, Open To All. The Greeks and Their Heroes
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- We will read Plato's Republic, Bloom Translation and I will teach it book by book monthly for a year. I will also assign what I think of as the minimal amount of background reading which will be fairly substantial. No exams. Join me on zoom at 8pm EST, Sunday Sep. 10. Michael Sugrue is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Link Below.
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What? Did he pass away?
Ditto on the comment below. I lost my wife and three daughters seven years ago on thanksgiving night. I contemplate suicide on December of that year (2015). Luckily that attempt failed due “circumstances out of my control” however the pain was so humongous that I was still on that path…until again for circumstances of life I ended up watching a very old Michaels video on Marcus Aurelius. That lecture changed my life for ever!.
@ Michael: Thanks for exist man. Thanks for keep fighting against all the things life has threw and will keeping through at you. But most of all. Thanks for your humble ways and share your knowledge with us…with me. Even though I have never had the opportunity to met you, please know that in did I love you like a father…you have been very good to me…thanks….sincerely Sid
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0:00 The Greeks
0:12 The Hero
0:17 Prometheus, Giver of Fire 🔥 to Human Beings
• Brings fire 🔥 to the Greeks
• Gets punished by Zeus, the punishment which involved Prometheus being chained to a rock and having his body pecked
1:12 Prometheus has an “Ace in the hole.”
1:32 Pushing the envelope about what humans can do.
2:30 Arrogance, Hubris, Self-Destruction.
*The Illiad*
3:36 Homer, writer ✍🏻 of The Illiad and The Odyssey.
4:24 Homer
*Achilles*
5:09 The Illiad “What makes a man excellent?”
5:57 Achilles
6:24 Opening Conflict of The Illiad.
7:32 “Where can you find human excellence?” On the battlefield.
8:11 What is Achilles like?
• Strong Warrior
• Brash, Outspoken
• Requires Divine Intervention to be restrained
9:08 What is Agamemnon like?
• - bossy
10:05 Ancient Greek Conception of Nature.
• Seek The Priest
13:00 Men tend to like Homer’s The Illiad
13:42 The Odyssey
14:45/15:23 Achilles felt disrespected.
16:43 Achilles was willing to walk out of the Ancient Greek Siege of Troy.
19:03 Speech, actions, Double Meanings.
20:03 Achilles is hospitable.
21:40 Achilles is earnest and serious. Speaks his mind without a filter.
23:43 Achilles Characteristic Activities.
26:03 Honor
26:47 1 to 1 simple Achilles.
28:17 Achilles has a Disdain for Bribery, and hypocrites, and liars.
29:53 Achilles does not tell lies.
31:37 Lying 🤥
32:44 Achilles gets 1 idea at a time.
33:32 Achilles at the end of The Iliad.
34:40 simplistic to hypothetical.
35:35 Achilles invents the Trojan Horse Strategy.
*Odysseus*
36:35 Trade to Raid.
37:00 Odysseus is a calculating man. A problem solver.
39:45 Odysseus loses, returns home,
*Socrates*
41:17 Socrates
42:33 Plato’s 7th Letter.
43:43 _Plato’s Republic_ 45:01
45:35
46:14 Forms
• Connection
47:37 China
Natural Science
Human Science
48:24 Desperation
49:30 Reading 📖 and a Zoom Discussion
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Missed you dearly! I have been absorbing all of your studies, especially on Theology and Job and Gilgamesh. I am eternally grateful for everything, brother 🙏 I hope one day I will be able to replay you somehow for all that you have done and continue to do.
Another great lecture Professor Sugrue. I hope you are in good health and good spirits.
He passed
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I will read the republic and follow along each month no problem.
I really appreciate what you’re doing for us. You’re the man!
Thanks again
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You are loved, admired and appreciated. 50 free minutes with you saves lives. It's not only your extensive knowledge but your ability to make it immediately digestible and relatable. This part of your essence; and I do mean essence, as defined by you in one of your lectures on Socrates, we recognize as a blessing, both for you and us and we are immeasurably grateful for every minute of your time.
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Yeah....the hero is back!!
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All the good wishes for you, always...
Oh yeah, Mike is back with the fresh cut 💪
Fantastic to see you again professor! I've been making my way through your lectures and book suggestions. It has been a wonderful learning experience.
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this man's speech is ambrosia for the soul
It has been awhile since the upload Mr sugrue I was starting to worry! Glad to see a video and hope to get another unplugged with Darren
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Wow! I love this guy! I didnt recognize you. But I remember the name, good to see you sir! You must be awesome around the dinner table !
I see Michael Sugrue, I click.
I've received a copy of the republic for my birthday last month, so this is amazing timing
Welcome back
Excellent lecture as always professor I'd like to add something else to the preamble of Achilles: the triple insult that leads to his sulking.
As we discover later in book 1 The son of Thetis was prophesied to be greater than his father. When the other gods noticed Jove's eyes wandering to Thetis they grew fearful of the prophecy, after all the last divine son who surpassed his father is now king of the gods, so they schemed to marry her to a mortal. This the first tragedy, he's gone from divine to mortal before being born.
So Thetis is "wedded" to a mortal but at least for Achilles the man is a king. So Achilles is now destined to be a great king but what's this? His mother receives a prophecy that he will only gain his glory if he goes off to war and dies. Now he's been robbed of being divine, and robbed of longevity. All he has left is his glory.
So when Agememnon takes Briseis in the opening, he's symbolically taking the last piece of destiny Achilles has left. I add this because i feel it adds more depth to the pain behind his decision to refuse to fight and to his scene with Priam, a king who kneels to Achilles and gives him the respect he feels he deserves for the first time in his life.
Thousands of years later and the 1 to 1 ratio hero is still the most popular. Great video and welcome back.
Thank you professor Sugrue, you’re the best teacher I’ve ever had. I hope you continue the great work ❤️❤️
Brother Michael, it's so sad that we'll never get to hear your promised insights on the Republic. Rest in peace.
Knowledge, understanding and love makes people human. Thank you Dr. Sugrue for your contribution to helping us get in contact with our humanity.
Hey thanks for doing this monthly, you're indeed , a philosopher.
Dr. Sugrue's long form style is a breath of fresh air in today's click bait culture.
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Thank you for educating me. Thank you for your work since the 90's.
Thank you sir. Found your popular Stoic video years ago and am always grateful to see you continuing to teach.
Prof. Sugrue, without coming across as an obsessed fan, your videos are a blessing on my Recommended page. You've stated before in your TTC lecture tour that Plato sought to supersede Homer as the great teacher of Greece, and for what it's worth, that is how I saw you and your lessons as a fledgling mind. I continue to refer back to the Dialogues as well as your annotations as a yearly tradition. As always, looking forward to your next video with earnest.
lol i just got to 42:05, glad you still hold that view :D
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Looking forward to the next hour. Thank you, again.
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Dr. Sugrue gave the best lectures I've heard. The new ones are superb, too. Sadly, I watched a video saying that he's dying. So I'm begging God to save his life.
We are all dying
@@davidconroy8554 sadly it the one certainty in life.
@@darillus1 well I could argue that from a philosophical perspective but I don't know where you are at that way, sometimes I'm not sure whether I'm losing myself or finding myself, do you know what I mean?
@@davidconroy8554 I know. But I heard that tragically, since Dr. Sugrue has cancer, he'll live only about five years.
@@williammcenaney1331 well there are a number of variables that could impact on that. I don't know that I'll live five years, I could be dead tomorrow. Cancer is curable, I don't give a fuck what anybody says, it depends on what kind of cancer it is. I had an enlarged prostate and fixed it naturally, Denis MC Kenna used Turkey tail mushrooms to cure his Ma, she had breast cancer. For Brain cancer I'd use Rick Simpson oil, personally I wouldn't go near a doctor. But of course one would first have to overcome the fear of death.
Thank you mr Sugrue!
when you’re Michael Sugrue I suspect you don’t have an unanswered need for thanks and praise… I’ve consumed much of the ‘old’ (late 80’s / early 90’s (?)) Princeton lectures which are just pure *gold*… and now just rolling around in the current series of lectures we’re blessed with, and look… there are occasional spikes in excellence in aspects of life. the man is a total gem - particularly brilliant, genuinely funny, charming, and endearing.
so, no need to receive praise but nevertheless - “thx” for the mental sparks and heart warmth, Michael - and to The Universe (or whatever) for your overall human richness.
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Missed your teachings
I fell in love with philosophy because of him. Amazing lecturer
i 💜 u Man! Thank you so much for the countless hours of amazing education you've given to the world, for free.
Thanls I really love the way you teach
Thank you, Dr. Sugre.
I am glad you are doing are doing well.
Thank you for sharing this class, it's a pleasure to relax and listen enjoying a drink and learning.
welcome back Dr
You help me feel less disconnected from life /reality when everything else is pushing me in the opposite direction. Thank you.
WE LOVE YOU PROFESSOR GOD BLESS YOU!!!!
I was listening to you while I was exercising and I was amazed. I couldn’t turn it off. You made those old time stories so interesting you have a gift. I’m glad you’re putting it on CZcams. I hope you have poor put up more content
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Doctor, you give all you have, and it is more than one could ever feel deserved of. Thank you for beginning this great book with us.
Just seeing this now. I regret missing yesterday's class. I look forward to reading Plato with you!
This is great. I haven’t read the Republic in over 20 years. This is a tremendous opportunity to get a masters insight into one of the greatest books ever written. Salute Professor, glad your back & with such a wonderful plan 🖖✌️
I recently almost bought Plato's republic at a local bookstore but have been massively hesitant to read Pluto's work as I don't want to tarnish my own writing, when you hear things like, 'All of Western philosophy is but a footnote to Plato' it's hard to be original if you consume well-trodden paths.
Interesting point about not wanting to consume well-trodden paths. Aren't you writing for an audience though? Shouldn't you therefore know the origin of the tradition you and your audience is in?@@darillus1
We love you and your mind. Thank you for everything!
Your Plato lectures are the foundation of my adult self. Thank you so much.
Thank you for the lecture professor, I enjoy tuning into your podcasts while I’m traveling. I feel if I’m going to watch CZcams over the weekend I might as well learn something interesting along the way. I hope your feeling as well as you can.
Achilles reminds me of my grandfather a bit. My grandfather was a powerful man, quiet and humble, but completely fearless and quick to violence. The worst thing a person could be to him was a liar, which he just wouldn't tolerate. He wasn't complex, but he was FAR from being stupid.
Heeeeeyyyyyy Prof! Glad to see you back!!
Thank you for uploading the videos that you have. I have them all backed up on an external hard drive. Also, very nice Coltrane poster. That man was truly connected to something beyond this world. Have you ever heard Allan Holdsworth before? Anyway, thanks again...
No but I will. Thank You.
@@dr.michaelsugrue I have a short clip of one of his tunes on my profile titled _The Un-Merry-Go-Round_ that may be a nice intro if you're interested. It's one of his more ethereal chordal pieces.
Being that you're a Coltrane fan, his album _The Sixteen Men of Tain_ may be a good starting point. It's the most "jazz-sounding" of his records (aside from _None Too Soon,_ which is an album of exclusively jazz standards). It's an incredibly beautiful album. His approach to soloing is very similar to Coltrane in some ways, utilizing "sheets of sound".
All the best.
@@dr.michaelsugrue _Downside Up_ and _0274_ are a couple of my favorites. Just figured I'd share.
Thank you. I am extremely grateful for your lectures. They are changing my mind.
The professor's back!!
Thanks for posting!
Michael, your lectures are fantastic! Please consider doing a video on Carl Jung. It would be incredibly insightful!💗
I am so happy to see you here again.Just love all your teachings!
Hi Michael, I discovered your videos 4 months ago, and they have already changed my perspective of life and how I think towards so many things. You are a great teacher with so much passion about whatever it is are speaking on.
I am very sad to hear you are not of good health!
I have the same Coltrane poster on my wall :)
Thank you, Professor. It is so wonderful to see you and hear that voice again.
I am extremely excited to follow along with this
I'll be following the whole series. Thank you professor Sugrue.
Now this is high quality content: educational but accessible, entertaining and thought provoking.
Thank you professor Sugrue
Welcome back and thanks for such a great lecture!
Praying for your good health, Dr. Many thanks.
Thanks a lot. Now my wife is making me read the book in preparation for your lectures. Like I don't have enough already in my life. Grudgingly, I am looking forward to it!
RIP Michael
Amazing lecture and amazing and positive zoom call. Thanks Mike :)
Thank God for you.
another great lecture as always, bringing tremendously valuable insight to this platform
Im looking forward to your all of your upcoming lectures. Thank you, professor!
hope you're doing great prof
Good to see you again Dr Sugrue, I hope you are doing well.