Forget everything you THINK you know about "gaming monitors"
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This monitor is almost 3k US. I don't think most of us are resisting new tech. We're simply used to pretending we can afford it
Ive been thinking of getting a new panel, started to watch this video, half way through I started to wonder what the price tag on this beast would be, saw your comment (3k USD) and I was like... aum OK.. so I googled it and here in Sweden its like 40k-50k SEK so thats roughly 4-5k USD. A big pass for me :P
That would buy a couple of months worth of gas and food...priorities.
@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 Eat less food, ride your bike. Lose weight AND afford a sick monitor! Priorities!
@@Xbob42 50-80% higher food costs, 150% higher gas costs, while living 10 miles from the nearest town, plus not depending on playing the latest/greatest game titles on a monitor that I don't need because I have more important things to do. Priorities!
@@gotdangedcommiesitellyahwa6298 Hunt your own food and gas!
Jay the reason many of us complain about these supposed "high end" monitors isn't because it's simply $1500-$3000. The reason we say it's so ridiculous is monitors like ASUS PG32UQX being THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS and they are still TOO MANY "issues?/compromises?" even at that price. if I am paying $3000 for a gaming monitor. I expect PERFECTION. There shouldn't be ANY issues at $3000. The PG32UQX is a pile of pure trash at that price. Yes, most will only use the PG32UQX for PC gaming, but at $3000 they didn't include HDMI 2.1 48Gbps inputs? are you kidding me? at $3000 and I can't use it for 4k/120Hz gaming on my PS5? you "can" get 4k/120 for Xbox X if you lower chroma sub sampling down to 4:2:0 etc. Hell no. not at $3000. Who cares if it's 1600 nits bright if you can't use it to game on with anything other than a PC? $3000 and they can only squeeze 95% DCI? not 98+ ? Latency is 7.5ms at $3000 vs the Gigabyte FI32Q at 2.7 ? seriously? Sorry, but if monitor makers want to charge $1500+ there can't be compromises. It needs to be 99.99999999999% perfect and be calibrated to 100% color correct Out of the Box.
At $3000 I should be able to game AND do content creation. THIS monitor is over $3000 and also only has HDMI 2.0 ports. NOT ACCEPTABLE. PERIOD.
Thank you! All of the above plus I'd say a $3000 monitor should not be built on the same black dull plastic as a $100 Dell office monitor. This thing should be made of premium materials, and for this price I would expect it built entirely of aluminium. At least Samsung tried with their G9 monitor, which still costs less than half of this but actually looks good.
Boom. There it is. Love your passion about it. You summed it up so nicely.
Okay Karen.
Imagine buying a gsync capable monitor to hook it up to a console
This is clearly marketed for rich kids from Saudi Arabia who don't care abt real specs. But they still gonna suck in fps games at 32 inch
I took one look at the price of this panel and said - "Yeah, my LG 27GN950-B will do me fine for the foreseeable future".
Also, it goes without saying that to take *full advantage* of this panel, you'll need a GPU that supports Display Stream Compression (DSC) - namely the Titan X, RTX 2080 or later.
If you are even considering a $2.5k gaming monitor, I'd certainly hope you have at least a 2080.
@Codebreaker Because people have different preferences but yeah, I think this one is over priced lol
Guys who can help me edit something? I can pay a small amount .”” Need it for school document
honestly I don't see how the 27gn950-B is not as good as this, I personally think they are pretty similar? 27GN950-B is 27" yes, but it has AMAZING color accuracy with it's nano ips panel.
I still like my 38GL950G-B over this. Kind of a different class being UW and all, but it could have more dimming zones
I will show my age even more, my first color monitor which I worked months to save up for a CGA 320×200 in 4 colors for $698. Best thing ever when I got it. Took me from monochrome to color. Kings quest 1&2, Earl Weaver Baseball, Master of Orion and X-COM all in color. Anyhow I really enjoy the channel, thanks
"you don't know what you're missing..." and that's a good thing, because if I knew, maybe I'd want it x3
About the same here, but x2. 😊🖖
Exactly. And it's the same with other elements of gaming or PC usage. You can spend thousands upon thousands for PC components, peripherals, monitors, headphones, sound systems etc.
Get something you like and settle there, especially never directly compare it to high end stuff, you might end up disliking a system you loved a few moments earlier.
mood
The “best” is what makes you happy when you use it.
7500$ please.
You know, one time a commercial told me to forget everything I know about slip covers. I said Ok, and it was a load off my mind. But then they tried to sell me slip covers, and I didn't know what the hell they were.
I didn't go to college, but if I did, I would have taken all my tests at a restaurant, because the customer is always right.
Was that a Mitch Hedberg reference?
No it’s a mitch joke
Just for a frame of reference I guess 1152 dimming zones, assuming they're evenly divided, means each zone takes up a total of 7200 pixels, or a 120 x 60 rectangle. Pretty dang good, but still not as good as per-pixel dimming on oleds; and with the first qd-oleds being available at like half this thing's price, I can't help but wonder what the pricing of a 4k oled of this caliber will be
Yeah I’m surprised at the price of this when the new 34” qd-oleds are less than half the price. They are 1440p, but slightly higher refresh rate. I still stand by the fact that 4K is unnecessary with such a small screen size. Much rather have the qd-oled technology, although miniled is still pretty good.
I paid 999 for a 48" LG C1, roughly going by that, I'd guess 6-700?
What is best monitor under 1300-1400 USD around 32 inches screen size?
Usage: , Ai modelling and machine learning models, mostly Entertainment and casual gaming in free time( I game rarely due to work) ....
I am kind of looking for desktop monitor too where I can code and visulize models for artificial intelligence and data science and
As I spend most time on desktop, I usually watch my Netflix and stuff here only
I am not much into competetivie gaming as I game once a week when time permits so having clear and crips documents and better content creation and consumption is the choice
I want my documents and research papers and reading experience also to be great
The QD layer improves colors and sometimes also brightens the colors which effectively improves the color volume as well as most of the colors gets absorbed in the polarizer. The dimming zones improves the black level in a scene. It is a physical layer that blocks out light to improve black level. But sadly IPS panels are not known for their contrast as their inherent raised black level ruins it but in this case MiniLED is pretty helpful I guess as they have much more dimming zones which can reduce blooming vastly and can achieve more black level.
I remember it was like 1995, I visited the local Hi-Fi store and they had on display a Philips 32" Plasma TV costing roughly $20K (at the time) and it was protected better than the Mona Lisa. The shop owner told me that anyone who purchased one was also buying insurance. Imagine insuring your TV today.
Well yeah.. 20k back then felt like 40k today.
An insurance for a TV, lame.
Do you have kids?
Jay: forget everything you know about gaming monitors
me, with a $149 Dell monitor 1080p 60 hz: done
Which is fine,if ur not gaming 8hrs a day..I'd rather spend money on a vacation or a car bike boat etc.then again I'm cheap and don't want to work when I'm 50
@@SpaceRanger187 been doing the same actually. I save 2k for fun and decide to take the family on vacation. I gave up on having a dream PC and just bought a PS5 and it has all I need as an adult
Same here except mine are Philips and I have 4 of them xD
@@jaredj9099 SIR sell that ps5 and buy a pc this instant, saying a ps5 has all you need as an adult makes no sense to me a laptop would have been a better choice no ?
Yes, you are not alone.
Most gamers game at 1080p from what the STEAM survey says.
I have been waiting for something exactly like this. Can’t wait.
It's also down to companies outright fabricating the ratings on their cables. If I buy a cable that says it does the laterst DP standard, it should damn well do it.
This is true. We also need to hold whomever comes up with these standards accountable as well. When , according to the standard, something can be labeled as HDMI 2.1 while only actually supporting HDMI2.0, why is there a standard?
that only works if the organisation that set the standards does not constantly changes the names like USB.
@@xellos013 This too. I only hope that this is a trend that doesn’t actually catch on.
Can't like... you're at 69 (nice).
They would have to put expectation dates on them cause the standard changes so often
"I'm going to age myself . . .1998 I'm a junior in High School". Yikes. Class of 1993 here :)
*Class of 1985 snorts and goes back to playing Super Metroid on his SNES...
Class of ‘87
Who turned off the Nintendo? My Mario game progress!!!!
Class of '93 here as well😀
Class of 2019 here, I guess I'm still a fetus lol
amazing quality as always thank you Jay
FINALLY. Been waiting for someone to review or just talk about this one (besides LTT)
Let's wait for HW Unboxed review!
Price 3k is insane anyway
Jay told me to forget everything thing I know about gaming monitors, then proceeded to show me a gaming monitor but I didn't know what it was
Heck, I'm still trying to figure out what a slip cover is. :/
@@trajectoryunown ayyyy lol , wasn't sure how many people would get the practically copy cat joke 😋
RIP Mitch Hedberg
Thank you this video just fixed the issue I was having with my monitor without even trying (the blackouts)
when i was looking at monitors a few years ago(just before covid and all the shortages) i did a bit of comparing and ended up settling on two ViewSonic XG2402's not only for their cost but that they were 144 Hz. they're a fairly well established name in monitors so there's that as well, it's like sticking with Sony for all the new tech stuff(mainly since they're the ones that have pioneered most of it)
While this monitor is awesome, anything that's significantly more than that Alienware QD-OLED for $1300 doesn't seem worth it to me unless it's also some sort of high end OLED. Wish this and other mini-LED monitors were around $1K instead. Eventually I'm sure.
I am a huge fan of self emissive technology. While I do believe OLED/microLED tech is the future, I think there's still advantages to miniLED displays as of now. For example: better full screen brightness, no risk at all of burn in, traditional RGB layout(the Alienware one has worse text clarity)
Yeah, but not everyone wants a Ultra wide display.
@@davidyang9902 I’m So confused now to which is the perfect gaming monitor to buy ! i’m okay with curved , Ultrawide ( i don’t want 4K though ) is there anything personally you recommend for ultimate immersive gaming experience ?
49" ultrawide Samsung 4k 240hz mini led is $700-1000 cheaper than this based on prices I found yesterday
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 Samsung also has the Neo G8, which is also mini LED, 32”, 4k, 240hz, 2,000 nits of brightness for $1,500. There’s just no reason to buy this one
I still remember the plasma TVs when they first came out that were pushing $10-15k brand new. Loved how they looked but that price tag was stroke-worthy lol
Same, my friends family had one they were the biggest pieces of crap lol
I remember plasma TVs consuming like 600W or more as well.
@@spankeyfish I was surprised to know that you have to keep plasma TVs vertical. A work collegue wanted to give me an old plasma screen but couldn’t figure out how to transport it vertically in a car or trailer. I think I dodged a bullet.
And here I felt like I was splurging on a $1300 oled!
I remember them heating up a room 10-15 degrees 😃
Great video! I always learn something new when I watch your videos sick monitor!!
I remember my grandads big screen was 3/4 ratio almost square and had a huge projector built out front of it on the floor that had the three big lamps green red and blue it was huge you had to have a dedicated living room just to the TV haha it’s amazing how far TVs have come though since I was a kid …
I remember buying my 1080p Samsung plasma 60” when they became slightly affordable and then had to deal with burn in after the first year it seemed was super disappointing but man the new 4k lcd tvs that or under $1000 and huge or such good quality for the money we live in the best time for good Affordable TVs
This monitor looks so awesome. I'm going to have to check it out when I get the chance. awesome video man.
With the external brick making it lighter and thinner, it also keeps it way cooler with having the main power board and rectifier outside the display and it also reduces the EMI they have deal with inside the display.
I'm sure I'll love this in 10 years when it's mainstream enough that I can actually afford it.
was thinking the same thing, this is more expensive than a good gpu
Yes this is not going to sell well at that price.
2500 dollars?, nope!
there is nothing new about it,.. it is mainstream.
@@dr.decker3623 the price point indicates otherwise. How many "mini LED" monitors are out there? If you can say every company sells them then sure, mainstream is the proper wording.
@@TENGILL My 77 inch bravia was only 800 more. LOL.
*loud rumbling* 22:05 "ARE THEY MAKING IT BETTER" ahahahah had me in stitches
I liked the little mini-rant at the start. I feel that!
I remember in like 2001 I was helping a friend move. He had a 60 inch CRT TV. I do not remember HOW much it weighed, but me, him and 3 other people had to ever so gently pull it it to the floor when we were moving his trailer. It's amazing JUST how far we've honestly come in tech.
Tbf, that CRT screen was probably better than any LCD or plasma screen until like 2008-2009. LCD is still playing catchup to CRT's in a lot of areas
60inch crt tv? You sure?
As far as I know, 60 inch TVs weren't ever CRT. They were projection TVs.
As someone, just a couple years younger than you Jay, I absolutely remember the insane prices for flat panels when they first came out. LCD, DLPs and on and on. I for one am happy flat screen tech stayed around, got better, and cheaper. Moving a 50 inch rear projection TV was never ever fun lol. I still have my old viewsonic flat panel monitor in the closet, it worked for me through college, grad school and for a few years after that also still have my ViewSonic N6 HD Video Processor box lol.
I got to watch a younger relative nearly require a hospital trip trying to move a 32-inch tube tv. They insisted on doing it themself, and were flabbergasted when after they gave up, I tipped it onto my thighs and waddled it to it's destination without major strain.
I also remember some of the smaller tube TVs having explicit hnadholds built into the cowling around the top so that they were less awkward to try to move.
@@jtnachos16 'I tipped it onto my thighs and waddled it to it's destination without major strain.' This is literally how I was taught to move washing machines when I worked at an electrical retailer at the turn of the century, lol
I remember when i bought a 21" CRT sony monitor.. that thing took up my whole deskspace lol... But ye just remember the early plasma screens.. damn they where expensive.. i still have a 720p 43" Pioneer in my bedroom and a 1080p Panasonic plasma in my living room...
Dude when flat panels were becoming a thing, my roommates found a 50 inch rear projection TV. We moved up two flights of stairs and I honestly wanted to kill them. The viewing angle was exactly in front of the screen and was bad. I lived with them long enough to get a plasma just as 4k was making its debut.
And $5,000 for a 50" plasma tv in late 90's.
I love this guy. He’s a great role model. Thank you for being you.
I got almost the same display well the same specs. Love it
thats a $2500 monitor, jesus
Sometimes I don't like when youtubers only focus on highly priced items
Yeah, when Jay was a junior in high school, I was working as a desktop support tech, setting up and tearing down a training room weekly with 21 19" Dell Trinitron CRT monitors. I tell you what, those 19" CRT monitors were HEAVY. We're talking 66lbs+ each. Every Tuesday morning, I'd have to set up all the computers in the training room, along with the 21 Dell Dimension desktops, and tear them all down on Thursday afternoon, for 3 months straight. My jacket size went from 42 to 50 that summer, thanks to the workout those monitors gave my shoulders.
That's why old tech was better, not only it was repair friendly and not single use only but it also was supporting the physical development of the IT department workers. 👌
Gotta thicc boi here
When Jay mentioned the switchable profiles to raise brightness etc, i got reminded by the fact that i use Nvidia Filters through GeForce Experience to raise brightness and add "vibrance" in games like CS:GO
21:30 The panel should have about 236 sq. in. of area, divided by 1152, gets you 0.2 in^2 per backlit zone. So each dimming zone is about 0.45” X 0.45” (about the size of a fingernail). *5 zones per square inch*
As someone with a 10bit planel (that can also do 8bit) I can assure you that you can't see a difference on that gradient test. I am not even sure the website can show an image that outputs to the monitor in 10bit. However the gradient is super smooth in both modes so it really isn't an issue.
Since you mentioned it, I'd love to see a video about multimonitor stands that can hold 4 or more monitors. I'm about to either build a new PC to support 4-6 monitors (I trade as well as work a regular job so 2 isn't cutting it) or possibly buy a good laptop that can support up to 4 monitors with USB-C/Thunderbolt/Lightning or something, if possible.
My son is a Tech Lead Programmer with a AAA gaming company currently in LA and uses at least 5 Monitors on his standing desk. Was lucky that when lockdown happened the company gave everyone a cash handout to buy equipment so they could work from home, they were very forward thinking on that one. Oh and it it wasn't $500 or something silly like that but many $000's, just shows how much money is in the gaming industry).
Very nice jay thank you
In my experience length of cable is very important with DSC. Also some graphics cards act strange if older HDMI monitor is plugged in while DSC running on display port.
Mini-LED is about 4 product generations away from being affordable.
I'm personally waiting for 2nd or 3rd gen QD-OLED over mini LED
I'm still waiting for OLED to get into 500 dollar TV's.
CRTs were awesome, except for their high weight, high power consumption, and small corner-corner sizes. They beat LCDs in each other metric.
CRT brightness is lower than LCD brightness now isn't it? Early LCD's blew chunks I won't deny that.
they also explode violently
@@6996Gunslinger And can kill you, not just by falling on your and crushing you, but if you broke them and touched the internals... goodbye heart!
@@6996Gunslinger Welcome to dealing with a vacuum tube!!
@@shanez1215 There were a few pretty bright ones in the early 2000's, but honestly it was at the very tail end of the CRT era, so the technology likely was never developed further.
It's neat to see where tech in monitors is goin. Pretty cool video
Love to see you do a comparison between this monitor and the new Alienware QD OLED. That QD OLED is the one I've been drooling over, and at less than half the price, waaaaaay more attainable.
We were in a lull when it came to 4k 32 inch monitors and I’m glad to see viewsonic actually tried something new here. I swear every panel was HDR 400 edge lit garbage, for $799-999. Hopefully other companies step up and we get an influx of innovation.
EX3210U
Yeah this one’s only 3000💀
LG has a new 32" 4k 144 Nano Cell coming out soon. It will have HDR 1000 and bringing back ATW Polarizer. . I think its the 32GQ950
Probably not as nice as this.. .but about 1/3 of the price.
Asus has the PG32UQX for pretty much the same specs at $3k. What we need is for these specs to come down in price.
Still cheaper than the 42 inch flat panel led TV I bought back in 06 🤣
So pleased you mentioned about the cables, and that it came with one. It's one component that's so overlooked. Influencers and industry have spread the word that buying stupidly expensive cables is not really recommended or needed in the average setup, and the problem is that people have adopted this and will buy cheap. But as you mentioned, not getting a certified cable that can meet your displays specification, is just wasting the high refresh rate or HDR experience.
It's also about the build quality of the cables. Super super cheap cables like the ones companies often bundle in will have a thin cord which puts the wires through more stress over time. That's fine for a static setup but if you're using it with a console or moving the PC around it's not ideal.
That being said, there really isn't a benefit to spending more than like 10-15 on a cable.
@@shanez1215 a $150 active cable is a lot cheaper than a second PC for your TV, but yeah if your PC is sitting on the same surface as your monitor you can save some money on cables.
@@Runiat What the heck is an active cable? Is it a cable or a PC?
The reason was when HDMI came out there was no difference at all. Every cable you could buy had an identical output because there just wasn't at on of information. Companies scammed the crap out of people selling them a $100 cable that performs the same as a $4 one. Now though with so much information the cables actually do matter again, much like the analog days ironically enough xD
@@Runiat 150$ for a cable? What a scam.
I'm running a omen 27i ips monitor and I love it
I've had my eye on this monitor for months! Literally my dream monitor
I cannot wait for microLED to get to an affordable both on TVs and on Monitors! MiniLED although far from becoming mainstream from a price point of view (and screen dimension at the moment) is amazing I cannot wait for that!
OLED is the way to go now. Nothing comes close, LG have just released a 42 inch OLED which is near perfection for a PC monitor.
@@pez555 Correct. Until *Micro LED* becomes affordable, OLED is the way.
TLC have 75" mini led this year on their top of the range c93 model.
@@pez555 burn in is my main issue with oled
@@pez555 problem with OLED is how dim they are. HDR is the future and OLED isn't good enough yet for a true HDR experience
I love these videos. Not because I intend to buy anything like this, but because the older stuff goes down in price again and I can upgrade to that older stuff :)
I use an LG OLED tv and I love it. 120gz refresh gsync compatible 55" and the picture on OLED is just fantastic.
keep us posted on yours and phil's decision to move from UW to 32" 4K. Been thinking about the same myself but would love to see a video update if you switch and your reasoning and thoughts. And if you do are you guys going with dual 32" 4K displays or single with a small side monitor?
After doing a lot of research into my recent monitor purchase....I know just from the description about how much this panel is worth. Out of my price range.
I ended up going for a much cheaper MSI curved 32" 1440p 165hz panel. It replaced an older Dell 28" 4k display and I've been very happy with it. The Dell had some of it's backlight burn out.
I still need to get a vesa arm for it though as my Dell didn't have a vesa mount on it.
I come from the days when we lugged CRTs to lan parties. Kind of weird....they started to die out about the time LCDs became a thing....because online gameplay became a thing at the same time.
I got the same I love it
What exact make is this monitor? Been searching for a good 1440p monitor at 32". also how much was it?
What is best monitor under 1300-1400 USD around 32 inches screen size?
Usage: , Ai modelling and machine learning models, mostly Entertainment and casual gaming in free time( I game rarely due to work) ....
I am kind of looking for desktop monitor too where I can code and visulize models for artificial intelligence and data science and
As I spend most time on desktop, I usually watch my Netflix and stuff here only
I am not much into competetivie gaming as I game once a week when time permits so having clear and crips documents and better content creation and consumption is the choice
I want my documents and research papers and reading experience also to be great
@@seanwfindley What is best monitor under 1300-1400 USD around 32 inches screen size?
Usage: , Ai modelling and machine learning models, mostly Entertainment and casual gaming in free time( I game rarely due to work) ....
I am kind of looking for desktop monitor too where I can code and visulize models for artificial intelligence and data science and
As I spend most time on desktop, I usually watch my Netflix and stuff here only
I am not much into competetivie gaming as I game once a week when time permits so having clear and crips documents and better content creation and consumption is the choice
I want my documents and research papers and reading experience also to be great
I moved from a 34 ultrawide to 32 4k 144hz a while ago and have no regrets. I dont think I could have gone back to a 27 inch but the 32 is plenty big and I prefer the extra display height when gaming. I felt like instead of them stretching FOV for 21:9 most games instead chop off the top of the screen.
Just curious, what did you get
What is best monitor under 1300-1400 USD around 32 inches screen size?
Usage: , Ai modelling and machine learning models, mostly Entertainment and casual gaming in free time( I game rarely due to work) ....
I am kind of looking for desktop monitor too where I can code and visulize models for artificial intelligence and data science and
As I spend most time on desktop, I usually watch my Netflix and stuff here only
I am not much into competetivie gaming as I game once a week when time permits so having clear and crips documents and better content creation and consumption is the choice
I want my documents and research papers and reading experience also to be great
I just swapped to a 27 inch for gaming (with a higher refresh rate) from a 32 inch and I'm not missing the extra space. Meanwhile, I use my 32 for AutoCAD and that's great.
I love my LG IPS 144 HZ Monitor I had other ones that were good monitors but THIS one is my favorite. My old one was an MSI 120 HZ which is great for my racing rig for now but the curved thingy thang seems to be cool with racing. But the time may come where I gotta go with another and this one is pretty cool! Thanks Jay for the review because we don't get a lot of monitor reviews unless they are special.
I bought a Blue & White Power Macintosh G3 back in 1998 and bought a matching LCD Apple Studio Display to go with it. That 15” display was $2000, had a contrast ratio of 200:1 and had a max resolution of 1024 x 768.
I rather just get the OLED one instead from Dell / Alienware for $1,300 than this Mini LED 4K one for $2,500. Sorry but Mini LED at 4K 165Hz is CRAP. Especially when you can get a 4K OLED 48" 120Hz from Gigabyte from MicroCenter for $1,000 now
Yes, OLED is a better value and technically better contrast.
@@rpospeedwagon agreed. This is horrible value for money. Surprised Jay is bigging it up so much to be honest. Shame.
@@pez555 'Thank you ViewSonic for sponsoring this' at 45 seconds may help to explain
OLED is terrible as a monitor because static elements and burning. Better suited as intended, a TV, for mixed content. Just check how Linus and others ended up after a year using OLED as a monitor.
@@pez555 New technology will ALWAYS be horrible value, that's just the nature of the beast.
OLED also burns in over time. If someone has the money to burn this is honestly better value than most early adopter products.
In several ways, CRTs were not just fine, they exceed LCD panels.
The main problem was the geometric increase in volume, and therefore weight, when the screen size increased, leading to high expense.
LCDs aren't superior, they're mainly smaller and cheaper for larger screen sizes.
They are better than everything outside 120Hz OLED panels. Even with those they also have “infinite” contrast and some better panels can get 100Hz easily. IPS and VA is inferior in every way but yes, CRT weight and bulky design just wasn’t cutting it no more.
Power consumption and heat were an issue too.
With modern display tech we're finally starting to beat CRT's in all categories though. CRT's have a lot of draw backs, power consumption, burnin, and lower brightness for example.
Retro game pixel art was still made for CRT's though but that's another problem all together.
CRT's do have wicked fast refresh rate support but that's not really needed, the main benefit is latency. But OLED is pretty low on latency.
Agree to disagree.
@@shanez1215 And near infinite potential resolution range (depending on the limitation of the hardware design) as well as color and brightness depth.
It's still great tech, hobbled by all the problems of bulk (including heat and power. Thanks Silmarieni C!)
Hey Jay, are you going to check out the new Alienware QD OLED display?
Im using LG OLED C2 42" 4K and its frikking amazing, that i can reccommend!
would like to see it compared directly with alienwares AW3423DW!
better compared to the PG32UQX
Worse for twice the price, pretty much.
@@RathOX Valid point to be fair. GG.
@@pez555 The price vs spec was kinda what I was tunnel visioning to be honest 🤣
Probably the only thing this panel has above Alienware aw3423dw that I have is that it's 4K..
But I'm a huge High refresh rate snob and I'm a few generations away from being able to move to 4K. I run games at a medium/ high/ Ulra mix and if I'm not getting at least 120 fps average it gets uncomfortable for me:)
I really want to be at 200 FPS no questions asked. So 4K is a pretty long ways away from that.
This looks cool but honestly my Alienware QD-OLED cost half what this does and QD oled is superior imo. would rather 4k UW but meh I can live without it for now
Exactly. Jay even goes to say that Mini LED is the latest in tech for computers... Like wtf lol
Will a high brightness black and white panel which has Color LCD on top act similar to mini led display ?
It would be nice to know how long does it take for the monitor to achieve the color rendition that is on the specs and the color consistency across the whole panel.
Fantastic monitor! But the price is insane. This would have to be a Black Friday special! But I am keeping my eye on this one now.
Ah yes. I love these yearly viewsonic monitor reviews. I look forward to next years
I’m waiting for years for miniled displays and now I have MacBook Pro with miniled display and damn that display is the best thing I’ve ever seen
Jay doesn't make monitor reviews often, but when he does I know I can't afford them :D
I would love to see more 38 inch ultrawides... that's where I want to go from my 34"
Best one is the Alienware 38. Alienwares new 34 oled is also one of the best
I did that, from an Asus 35, 100hz to an alienware 38 144hz,u will never go back
Yeah me too. I want a 38 uw
@@tomgjonaj9965 yeah I have the Alienware 38 and it’s so nice
I was going to get the Alienware 38" but instead go the Alienware 34" QD-OLED one instead because my RTX 3070 would struggle pushing higher fps at the 38" resolution and to be honest the QD-OLED is truly next-gen and you have to see it in person to fully understand as youtube videos dont do it justice
biggest difference which is overlooked by many with "modern" not necessarily high end monitors is the power they use, newer monitors use 60/70%, less, I changed from a 10 year old perfectly good working high end at the time 24" monitor which used 120 watts of power to a top end LG 4k 32" monitor which uses 40 watts..that's a huger difference especially when spread over a years power consumption
What is best monitor under 1300-1400 USD around 32 inches screen size?
Usage: , Ai modelling and machine learning models, mostly Entertainment and casual gaming in free time( I game rarely due to work) ....
I am kind of looking for desktop monitor too where I can code and visulize models for artificial intelligence and data science and
As I spend most time on desktop, I usually watch my Netflix and stuff here only
I am not much into competetivie gaming as I game once a week when time permits so having clear and crips documents and better content creation and consumption is the choice
I want my documents and research papers and reading experience also to be great
My monitor is way over 10 years old, but looked up it's power consumption and it's also 40w. Huh.
Still rocking my 16’ inch LCD FP from dell (2009) with converters. 👍🏻
Could you do another list of gaming monitor. Thank you and have a good day.
I would love a 1440p version of this
I just want a 27" flat, 4k oled with good refresh rate. Is that too much to ask for?
I'm on a lg gn-950 and a gn-850 currently. I really don't want to move to a 32" for example.
I don't think there would be a huge difference between 1440p and 4k at that size unless you're super close to your display
Yep, very unfortunate that Samsung is doing their 4K/240Hz monitor with the curve. A 27” monitor doesn’t need to be curved at all. Huge miss for them.
@@lllhunterlll9644, really depends on what GPU someone has. Most also don’t want 4K, regardless of size.
The first manufacturer to make a 4K OLED 27, 32 or 34 ultrawide is literally going to rake it in.
Imo there's no reason to get a 4k 27"
You'd barely see any difference between 4k and 1440p
Hey Jay. I have an ACER X34 X34BMIPHZ. Picked it up in 2016. Would you say it's worth an upgrade to the newer panels that are out, based on what you see?
Hell Jay I was gaming on CRT back in the early 90’s
For $2500 they can keep it. Nice product, but no… no way I’d spend that much on a gpu or monitor.
For $2500 you can get yourself a FAR better OLED TV. Mini-LED is shite in comparison.
@@Valk-Kilmer mini led is still being developed so who cares
what he wants to emphasize is the innovation that comes with it, he made that LCD analogy for exactly that purpose. give it 5 years and some more testing/ development and you’d be getting them for the same price as LCD. to be fair i am more excited for the high quality LCDs to drop in price to CRT level 5 years down the line 😂
$2500 is fucking ridiculous. I just looked up the price and it is beyond exorbitant
@@sohamsaha04 the point he wants to make isn’t a good point when you look at the Samsung Neo G8 for $1,500 and see it’s the same monitor but better in some aspects.
CRT is still the best
Much has changed in the world of monitors! I remember getting my first LCD panel around 2004 and it was a BenQ FP737s-D 17" with the standard 4:3 aspect ratio. I picked it up on a surprise sale from a local store one Saturday for under $500 Canadian and was really excited to upgrade from my CRT. Well, it wasn't a bad monitor but the black levels were terrible! I was playing Doom 3 at the time and it was hard to see anything in dark scenes, and that game had a lot of dark scenes LOL. My next monitor, a Samsung 225BW (which I still have in storage) was a BIG improvement in several ways. Speaking of Dying Light, I need to finally install and play the first game!
Hope you do a video soon on the new QD-OLED stuff samsung developed. Looking forwards to your opinion
Ummm, miniLED is out there for a while now with LG panels
I’m making the switch over to LG C2 OLED
Just got one and its fantastic
@@Dx-so7jm Manufacturers are surely going to release a shed load of OLED monitors in the next year or so. 4K OLED/QD-OLED will perfection for 40 series cards.
@@pez555 i picked up the 42in and its perfect size for my desk , once a QD oled releases i will upgrade to that for sure
No other monitor can compare and they can all get fucked. Been miking us for years with shitty IPS/VA panels. Thank god for LG OLEDs.
Jay, now that you've looked at this and the other XG32OU monitor how do they compare. I know this new mini-LED is crazy bright, etc. But if it was your money for all that you're doing, is the XG32OU the better deal? I need to upgrade my old HP Z30i. I'm sure even the XG32OU is going to be brighter and a heck of an upgrade.
I'm looking for a new 4k monitor for a new comp I built (3080). Should I go for LED, LCD or OLED?
Does Jay have an exclusive deal with Viewsonic? No problem if it does, the man has got to take care of his family. But $2500 for this is a ripoff. We have OLEDs now for less than half the price. The Alienware AW3423DW is objectively a better monitor for half the price although it is a different aspect ratio/resolution. These mini LED monitors are a nice evolution for IPS, but that's all they are. It is an overpriced upgrade on an old technology. I can't see many of these selling at all.
The latest stuff has a tax added to it. Every piece of tech has been like that. Until the new becomes the mainstream, it will always be like that.
"Ripoff" is a little bit unfair. How much did OLED cost when it first came out?
You should see the prices of mini led tv’s like the wall
I agree. It's definitely a cool monitor and if I had $2500 to just blow on a monitor I probably would, but the reality is that not many people are going to be able to spend that much on a monitor. Idk how much people really spend on monitors (I know it's a pretty important piece of the computer setup) but to me $500 is already getting up there as far as how much i'm willing to spend on that component.
@@alexmills1329 the wall is microLED, big difference.
Looking up the price for that thing: Costs over 3300 EUR here. Noped right the hell out of it.
@5:38 If I were to buy a display port cable nowadays what brand would be a good brand to buy to ensure a great brand display port cable?
Sharper Image was where I got my Force FX lightsaber when the Star Wars prequels came out. I got rid of my Dell 24" IPS CCFL backlit display two years ago even though it had a useful 16:10 aspect ratio but it was showing signs that it was on its way out despite working well after a few minutes of warming up.
Wait, so this Video has no Benchmarks on response time, contrast, color accuracy, power consumption etc. and we just have to "trust" whats written on the label by the manufacturer and pay $2500?
Nah
Just wait for Hardware Unboxed or RTINGS to do proper review and not a sponsored video.
Yeah his content get more and more to be a shity promotion channel by the years.
This monitor uses the exact same panel as the Asus PG32UQX, so just look up the benchmarks for that. The short version is that other than response time which is not good, everything else about the panel is pretty great.
Yes, very disappointed with Jay here. 'Just trust us bro' isn't very consumer friendly when you're trying to sell an extremely over priced monitor at $2500. Mini-LED? Maybe for £200 as a spare monitor in my garage. Anything that isn't QD-OLED/OLED is absolute garbage now since owning a C2.
You could always create a ultra wide resolution to run within the 16:9 framing. It'll have black bars on the top and bottom but with a screen that big it will most likely still be bigger than most of the ultra wide's out there.
yep, goodjob true that.
Pls jay, try to get your hands on a lg 42 inch oled tv and compare multiple screens to that one! im running this tv for a few months now and it is the best of the best i have ever seen and experienced!
Lol I remember The Sharper Image, cool store to hop into since they had all the cool gadgets. Everything was of course super expensive, but at least you could try stuff out!
I remember when 144hz panels were just starting to become a thing! Jay did a triple panel setup and raved about the difference between 60hz and 144hz. I immediatley bought a 144hz panel and could instantly see the difference. People thought he was nuts! Jay and I talked about that! This panel is light years ahead of that time and a panel that checks all the boxes for you is worth buying as you'll be looking at it for a long time and taking it to your next build.
Believe it or not but there are people, like me, that actually can't see any difference above 60 Hz. But what I can most definitely see is better colors and resolution so instead of chasing that highest possible refresh rate I have bought myself nice 60 Hz IPS 4K 28" panel
@@stanisawszczypua9076 I’m one of those people who can’t really see the difference. I can, however, feel the difference if that makes sense. I think a color accurate display that’s 144 would perform better for me than a 240+ display with less than accurate colors.
I use to be fine with 24hz. After switching to 60hz I did not notice a difference until I went back to under 30hz. It was horrible. A few years ago I stepped up to 120hz. Again did not notice any change. Now if my fps drops under 100fps it is immediately noticeable just because I am so use to 120fps. If fps drops to 60fps or below the game just feels unplayable to me now.
@@zillbot That may be how I am too. Once I switched to a high hz monitor, I havent played anything below 60. Maybe I should hook up my old monitor and see how 60 hz is.
I'd still say wait for a DP 2.0 monitor, this requires DSC and dithering to achieve 144hz, hurting the actual picture and color quality, you could also get the alienware QDOLED monitor for half the price of this one and it's a different dimension in picture quality
Someone hasn't taken a look at CRTs recently... :P
probably too young for vacuum tubes and MS-DOS.
With my LG38GN950 I also started to see difference from the third square. I didnt know that test yet
In love with Aorus FO48U oled. Right now the price is incredible because reviewers wanted to use it like a a normal monitor. It a serious panel for media and full screen gaming not a panel for work. So now you can get it discounted at a great price.
Always had a soft spot for Viewsonic. Reasonably priced, light on the corporate marketing bullshit, focus on giving you good quality for your money.
Yeah they make awesome screens
A good quality crt is still amazing to this day. Really wish they'd revisit that tech.
OLED is the best comparison to CRT.
It has benefits but I can see why it's been abandoned. It's just way too expensive to make and especially ship, they're stupid heavy, and use way too much power.
@@Valk-Kilmer
Oled isn't like crt at all. Sample and hold blur and 5 times the input lag end to end mouse click to screen even if it did 240hz. For gaming nothing is like crt. Good enough lag and motion but like crt, not at all.
@@theoldpcgamer77 and you can use much lower resolutions with no real visual loss. There are no "pixels" to alias. Idk why anyone even has a 4k display. Most games perform very poorly at that resolution even with a 3080ti. Until Nvidia let's us "bake" our own unsupported or modded games locally for customized dlss profiles, 4k is an automatic no-go for me. I don't only play the newest AAA titles with dlss available.
@@dicktater4801
I love DLSS as it means i can get near native image quality and greater fps. Kind of like crt dealing well with lower resolutions. I use 1440p and even DLSS performance (so 720p) on some of the newer games like Metro Exodus enhanced looks excellent. As you know non native resolutions scaled the normal way via the driver or a displays scaler take input lag to insane levels and nasty image quality. DLSS is a god send to me as i like as close to 200fps in games to minimise motion blur and have that connected feel with controls while still getting a 1440p image or close enough it looks the same.
Interesting question then, which do you think is better. OLED or mini-LED for black/dark scenes?
Can you make a video on how to get out of bios when you have upgraded your new ssd?