Cadillac Celestiq EV: The Inside Story From The Chief Engineer

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  • čas přidán 7. 12. 2022
  • Cadillac’s hand-built, $300,000 luxury car is a masterpiece of low-volume manufacturing and technology. How did they do it? Tony Roma, the chief engineer, talks about how the program came together and how Cadillac figured out what it had to do and how to do it. Also on the show: Frank Markus from Motor Trend and Richard Truett from Automotive News.
    GUEST:
    Tony Roma, CELESTIQ Chief Engineer
    PANEL:
    Frank Markus, MotorTrend
    Richard Truett, Automotive News
    John McElroy, Autoline.tv
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Komentáře • 81

  • @howebrad4601
    @howebrad4601 Před rokem +10

    I sure hope this works out. I was raised a ford man but now have mostly gm. Nothing would make me happier than for gm to show the world the stellar heights and capabilities of General Motors.
    Please please guys make damn sure this thing is fully engineered and ready to rock. No more X car type fiasco, or other various hold hearted efforts over the years.
    Done right this absolutely can make Cadillac the standard of the World again. Do it for Cadillac, for GM, and for America. We can all use a home run and it's accompanying celebration right about now. Leave nothing to chance and hit it out of the park. Although I can't afford one of these we are all depending on you to reassert American engineering and manufacturing dominance.

    • @roccovolpe5384
      @roccovolpe5384 Před rokem

      ❤️🇺🇸❤️
      From italy 👋

    • @howebrad4601
      @howebrad4601 Před rokem +1

      @@brooksteer5629 well I own many cars from many brands and I've seen both buicks and toyotas with 300k on them running fine and I've seen hondas with head gaskets problems at 90k.

  • @fgeiger41
    @fgeiger41 Před rokem +6

    I would choose Escala all day long. Simply gorgeous. I've been a fan of Cadillac design for decades, but the Celestiq seems awkward to me.

  • @Jasona1976
    @Jasona1976 Před rokem +4

    Epic price

  • @RedLeo-pf9yo
    @RedLeo-pf9yo Před 3 měsíci

    I’m ordering mine in January 2025. I’m so excited !!!

  • @kingkontinuum
    @kingkontinuum Před rokem +3

    Looks incredible! Way better than the ugly G90 from genesis

  • @boots_n_coots
    @boots_n_coots Před rokem +8

    More than a hint of Citroen DS here, don’t you think? Not a bad thing, in my opinion 😊

    • @donswier
      @donswier Před rokem

      Good comparison. Bit of SM, too.

  • @Wankidy
    @Wankidy Před rokem +2

    I have not yet seen a Lyriq in the wild. I don't expect to see the Celestiq any time soon

    • @megatronusorionpax4900
      @megatronusorionpax4900 Před rokem +1

      I've seen a few of them already just saw one a couple days ago in black 😄, it's a new vehicle too so it's unrealistic to expect to see them everywhere already. And you'll probably see a Celestiq as often as u see a Bentley or RR

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X Před rokem

      @@megatronusorionpax4900 You see RR and Bentley in the ultra rich suburbs of LA like in Malibu, Rodeo Drive, Holmby Hills, Beverly Park.

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem

      I live in Michigan, I see at least 1 Lyriq every other day.

    • @Wankidy
      @Wankidy Před rokem

      @@Nebula1701 I haven't seen any in the DMV area. Except for those at dealerships.

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem

      @@Wankidy I live in Waterford and travel up and down the i75 corridor all the time and catch them testing.

  • @johnkinsfather64
    @johnkinsfather64 Před rokem

    How do they go about selecting the crew to build it.

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X Před rokem

      They guy said from GM’s prototyping crew who made the concept.

  • @darrylmonroe802
    @darrylmonroe802 Před rokem +1

    When are we going to see this technology and craftsmanship trickle down to other Cadillacs ad well as other GM vehicles please.

  • @howebrad4601
    @howebrad4601 Před rokem +2

    I'd like to know why they went with the rear styling they did. Typically a hatchback look isn't associated with an exclusive, high dollar car. Especially when you see cars like the sixteen, for example, whichbto my eye was absolutely stunning and I'm shocked it never made it to production as a halo car. Instead we get the cts and ct5? They might be good but neither has that absolute steamroller looks of the sixteen. Both gm and ford have had some awesome design themes but very few make it to reality and when they do they are pretty watered down and only vaguely resemble the concept

    • @808GT
      @808GT Před rokem +1

      Copying the model S.

    • @normt430
      @normt430 Před rokem +3

      The rear end dates back to early 1900's Cadillac

  • @randymorgan7714
    @randymorgan7714 Před rokem +4

    Looks like a stretched AMC had a baby with a SUV

  • @megatronusorionpax4900
    @megatronusorionpax4900 Před rokem +1

    I still wish they used the Escala concept I don't agree with them saying it wasn't the right car

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem

      Escala is nice, but it was on the wrong platform, it wouldn't be able to hold the batteries or motors properly. The Celestiq is much larger.

  • @Nick-uw4tx
    @Nick-uw4tx Před rokem +2

    I really dig this car and can't wait to hear about driving impressions but with that MASSIVE hood, does it have a front trunk?
    I'm guessing no.

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem

      I've heard that yes, it does have one.

  • @boots_n_coots
    @boots_n_coots Před rokem

    Dang it, Roma, you’re pronouncing it wrong. It’s Celes-TEEK!
    Ps: nice ride though. Wish you success.

  • @JohnPMiller
    @JohnPMiller Před rokem +3

    I expected the chief engineer to show more enthusiasm.

    • @rule1capital
      @rule1capital Před rokem +2

      It's hard to get excited when no one can afford your vehicle...

    • @johnls39
      @johnls39 Před rokem +1

      That is his character generally. Even though he does not show it, I'm sure he is enthusiast.

    • @TheHomeExpert5
      @TheHomeExpert5 Před rokem +2

      Why be excited? The styling is a disaster. They should have stuck with the design language of the elr. That was gorgeous.

    • @maestroadam
      @maestroadam Před rokem +1

      He knows it’s already a failed experiment.

  • @foreverinteriors
    @foreverinteriors Před rokem +1

    I saw a commercial for a rather premium Audi product, I forget the name. It was clearly aimed at a target audience that looked and acted the part. Mature man, beskoked suit, Grey beared . He had a definite presence and was being brief as he walked by another who of which maybe a sales representative. The ad agency did not joke around, it was top notch and the car was limited volume. I saw a celestiq commercial. It featured 20 something GIRLS and BOYS. Some were wearing what looked like designer clothing while dancing around while others wore something, i dont know? Those ones looked like clowns. As commercials are constantly repeating I can assure u I will switch channels rather than watch that kiddy commercial again.

    • @maestroadam
      @maestroadam Před rokem +1

      Agreed, Cadillac marketing has been terrible for years now. I thought it was going to improve when they got rid of the Melody lady, but it’s getting worse!

  • @Thoughmuchistaken
    @Thoughmuchistaken Před rokem +2

    I don't think it's a bad looking car, it's just not a great looking car. And people are saying $300k is too much, but here in Canada a Hummer EV is currently listed for $299k on Autotrader... At low volume they should sell but it might not give Cadillac the profile boost GM is hoping for. As 2023 rolls by I'll be paying more attention to Aptera production.

  • @Andoniscars
    @Andoniscars Před rokem

    EPIQ

  • @johnkinsfather64
    @johnkinsfather64 Před rokem

    The luxury’s market has been adding SUV models and having good sales response, why a sedan . Is it just easier to design a great looking sedan?

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X Před rokem

      Many of the $300+K buyers drive around in sedans, supercars if you have not notice!

  • @dclpgh
    @dclpgh Před rokem +2

    Wow the RoboCop (6000 SUX) inspired rear styling is........Um....HUH.......Yeah.

  • @joegim7680
    @joegim7680 Před rokem +4

    In itself this is not a bad car. But at $300K it is a hard sell. As a potential Celestiq customer are you fully confident in GM's software capabilities(Hint: VW ID)?

    • @rule1capital
      @rule1capital Před rokem

      I would rather take 7.5 M3 and start a rental fleet with 6.5 to gig workers... I would rather buy 3 Tesla Model S base and give 2 to family members... I would rather buy 2 Lucid and give 1 away in a raffle...

  • @shanewilson2484
    @shanewilson2484 Před rokem

    Trunk lip is a yard high. Yikes!

  • @davincisghost9228
    @davincisghost9228 Před rokem +1

    No right hand drive... not entirely "customisable" then... pity.

  • @BryceLovesTech
    @BryceLovesTech Před rokem +2

    I’m very pro electric and we need as many electrics as possible. But at $300,000 this car will be as popular as a $75,000 ELR was.

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X Před rokem +1

      I think the ELR had the exterior styling but the rest as a copy of the 1st year Chevrolet Volt! Cadillac never updated to the more powerful Volt engine either and let it sat to die in their showrooms.

    • @firefox39693
      @firefox39693 Před rokem +3

      The Celestiq is sold out. The ELR never got off the ground, because it was a much more expensive interpretation of the Volt.

    • @davekozlowski1266
      @davekozlowski1266 Před rokem

      @@firefox39693 sold out.,.all 100 or so of them? Problem is the technology for a great EV platform doesn't exist at GM.

  • @maestroadam
    @maestroadam Před rokem

    I don’t think they’re going to sell many of these at the price they are asking for. Maybe if it was priced like a Panamera?

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem +1

      A Panamera doesn't have the customizability as the Celestiq, You can get down the very small details in this car.

    • @johnls39
      @johnls39 Před rokem +1

      How many do you think they are going to sell then at over $300K? The plant will make at least 400 annually. The panamera is regular production volume you see daily.

    • @maestroadam
      @maestroadam Před rokem

      @@Nebula1701yeah but I think people who want that level of customizability will buy a RR. Not a Cadillac that looks like a Citroen lol.

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem +1

      @@maestroadam GM already reported they sold out the first model year of the Celestiq.

  • @nycameleon
    @nycameleon Před rokem +1

    for 300K I hope it supports North American Charging Standard

    • @Nebula1701
      @Nebula1701 Před rokem

      LOL the NACS is not going to survive past Tesla.

  • @brunoheggli2888
    @brunoheggli2888 Před rokem +1

    Mindblowing gamechanging,GM is the best!

  • @locofurioso
    @locofurioso Před rokem

    All these guys may end up working at tesla.

    • @rule1capital
      @rule1capital Před rokem +1

      If they are lucky and can make the cut...

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X Před rokem

      Elon does the hiring of Tesla engineers himself still! He does not ask floater questions during his interviews and will present several problems for the interviewee to solve! 😮 Of course, if you are recommended by a working Tesla engineer, that helps alittle!

  • @kevtheobald
    @kevtheobald Před rokem +5

    Styling wise feels dated already. This would have been impressive five or ten years ago. Lyric has already had software issues, it does not inspire a great confidence in GM.
    This is meant to be niche vehicle, but I still wonder if they will truly hit their goals. They may get deposits, but once it hit the market, people might see it is underwhelming and cancel.

    • @maestroadam
      @maestroadam Před rokem +2

      It does look 10 years old already!

    • @MrCarGuy
      @MrCarGuy Před rokem +1

      The Elmiraj and Escala have aged well, though. Probably should have made a faithful reproduction of those. Big fan of the Sixteen concept proportions too.

    • @maestroadam
      @maestroadam Před rokem

      @@MrCarGuy the sixteen would have been an undeniable halo car.

  • @Akira-nw4jl
    @Akira-nw4jl Před rokem +1

    not sure how this very expensive handbuilt car helps GM.

    • @johnls39
      @johnls39 Před rokem +1

      It's a halo for Cadillac to give aura around the Cadillac brand to showcase the best technology, features and design.

  • @MysteriousTony
    @MysteriousTony Před rokem +5

    ...🙄...that thing is ugly, no one wants to say it.....everyone knows it...

  • @TheHomeExpert5
    @TheHomeExpert5 Před rokem +2

    The result is a grotesque and hideous disaster. They should have continued to follow the design language of the Cadillac ELR which is Sublime and gorgeous.

  • @sergiomessina2037
    @sergiomessina2037 Před rokem +2

    I think the front of the car looks decent but the rear side and rear end is just ridiculous. This really gives you insight into GM's mindset. Thinking this so-called flag ship. Model is representing the company. Sad...

  • @matthewswan9819
    @matthewswan9819 Před rokem +3

    sounds like a bad deal.

  • @MrCarGuy
    @MrCarGuy Před rokem +1

    Truly a silly name. The Latin etymology of it is less ridiculous and no more difficult to pronounce. Gotta put a Q at the end!

  • @ronpatrick9836
    @ronpatrick9836 Před rokem

    $300K for an Equinox covered with crap, too big to park anywhere, and inadequately tested. But add enough LEDs and they will come.

  • @maestroadam
    @maestroadam Před rokem

    Haha nobody is going to go to a GM dealer and drop this kind of cash on a car.
    Grossly overpriced and playing in a pool that Cadillac can’t compete in.
    Are they going to sell it with undercoat in the F and I office?

  • @lawrencefranck9417
    @lawrencefranck9417 Před rokem

    He should be fired that is one ugly car.

  • @michaelgrissom834
    @michaelgrissom834 Před rokem

    Joke

  • @Tigersmundo
    @Tigersmundo Před rokem +1

    *Cadillac awesome prototypes ALWAYS......awful execution EVERYTIME never look the same or close at the end.....Mr. Elon Musk buy them out to save them from themselves dumb arse decisions.*