RTX 4060 Family vs the RX 7600 - Who Wins?
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2023
- NVIDIA Provided details on the 4060 Family so I pixel counted to get the frame rates and understand the performance you can expect. And I also compared it to the RX 7600 and its expected price.
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Wow! RDNA3 does it again! VideoCardz just leaked the TimeSpy scores of the RX 7600 and they are less than 5% better than the 6650XT. That means the 7600 will be more like a 6700 non-XT and very much like the 4060. AMD pricing this at $299 would be too much for this level of performance. I'm sure AMD would convince themselves they are doing gamers a favor at $279. However, If they care at all about RDNA3 brand reputation and sales numbers, this GPU can't be more than $249. Otherwise, another RDNA3 DOA.
As a consumer looking for a new GPU, I'm very unimpressed by the options. The price to performance is just not there. Factor in the used sale value in 4-5 years and this raising of prices while dropping performance is a real sting in the tail. Anyone buying an 8GB card, or one that has a nerfed buswidth (regardless og the GB on the card) is in for a hard time recouping money for a future upgrade. At this rate I'll be picking up a new RX6800 because it's the best performance to price with a resale value. Skipping both nVidia and AMD offerings for this gen. The real kicker is that AMD could have actually broken with the nVidia pricing and pushed for market share instead. Short term thinking now is harming their brand.
Look at your own chart at 7:41.. 20% difference inbetween 4060 and 4060ti... the 7600 is right in the middle
@@igavinwood The only new GPU worth considering is a 4090. I'm on a 3080ti, looking to get 4090 used soon, unless the 4080ti looks good. The idea behind getting a 4090 is you will have absolutely no reason to upgrade for atleast 5 years. High end gaming won't catch up. Maybe a single game or 2 it won't be able to max out. I'll end up spending the same on gimped incremental upgrades. As for you, if you're just gaming, the used market is great man. I have professional workloads to justify the 4090.
RDOA3
First of all Videocards test for 4060 ti, seem off, like the 4060 ones, don't see any reason as you analyzed using Nvidia own tests to rtx 4060 being slower than 3070 or some 3060, except when there'd be a true necessity of high vram bus speed and the half GB/s enhanced by so many times more cache trick or the lack of capacity make rendering not possible.
Another point, AMD has made possible the best RDNA3 cards to be RTX 4060, 4070 and 4090, very good successors of RDNA2 RX 6600, 6700 and 6800-6950. It is maybe in exchange of NVIDIA making the best RTX 30 card to buy any AMD's RX 6600, 6700, and 6800-6950, so much better since the downpricing... Could Jensen and Su be half brothers or being telephatically connected. Just wait for AMD to release FSR 3 that will run better in Nvidia HW as FSR 2 does now than in AMD's...
Let them rot on shelves. Excellent video as always.
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I just upgraded from 2060 super to rx 6900 xt. Was considering the rtx 4070 but decided on pure power with 16gb of vram
AMD gets more improvement per CPU generation than Nvidia can get in a GPU generation. I don't think we've ever seen CPUs improve faster than GPUs. Goes to show what a lack of competition can do to an industry.
You can still get much higher improvement, you just have to pay it.
Gpu is extremely complicated engeniering, like I am not to disapointed with performance it can happen, but with performance for price and especialy with specs, memory configurations as whole sucks + you are paying for features with very limited usage. Not everyone is interested in frame gen from very logical reasons + things like AV1? Sure its great, but practicaly useless in case of mainstream gamers ... mainstream gamer is looking for pure total performance in gaming , thats it. AV1 is something what should be feature in enhanced editions not in basic models if it costs more, 8gb of Vram is something what shouldnt be on gaming gpu for 400usd in the first place in 2023 and pay 100usd for another 8gb ? Thats just disrespectful to everyone who actualy needs to work hard to earn his money. Its arogant slap to the face of your own potential custommer, not very wise move. Nvidia represents themself as company which noone should follow in the future, arogance is Natural enemy of science... they should reconsider their behavior, it can cause them a lot of troubles.
It's not the performance but the pricing. Top Ada Lovelace is ~2/3 faster (AD102 vs GA102); but now they're charging +2/3 the price.
I enjoy the analysis videos like this, thank you for putting in the effort and making them. For Nvidia it's fairly easy to knock down the models by 0.5 of 1 digit (4070ti = 4070, 4070 = 4060), AMD is similar, (7900XTX = XT, 7900XT = 7800XT). It's an attempt to disguise poor value by having the name and price at a certain point, but the performance not there.
I'm kind of shocked how few subscribers you have, keep it up because I think you're going to go far, production quality is there, content is there, really good stuff.
These companies aren't going to want to cut into their margins just because a new generation wasn't as fast as they hoped for though. AMD was expecting 50% more performance per watt, they just didn't get it. Because AMD didn't get the performance they were hoping for, Nvidia gets to sell a AD107 chip as a 4060.
@@johnc8327 thank you, that's the most hopeful way of looking at the current situation, seems logical as well given how disappointed everyone was with the XTX and how AMD tried to walk back it's claims, I didn't put 2 and 2 together. AMD slipped, Nvidia has taken advantage, makes sense. FWIW, I'd still buy an XTX today if my current card died, I'm just not in any hurry, it'll be 30% off at some point, in my region a XTX is $1600 AUD so, decent investment
Analysis of not even released gpu without data btw
You are exactly right with the naming of the models. Thank you for the kind words.
But i'm sure Digital Foundry will try and spin this as a positive for pc gaming once again.
Digital Foundry is the best in business. No one shills for Nvidia to that level.
@@thematrixredpill don’t get me wrong, I enjoy their technical deep dives into game engine tech, but their refusal to be critical of Nvidia so they can continue to get sponsored videos is kind of a joke at this point.
Yeah their bias is getting really obvious lately. They flat out have been refusing to do comparisons between AMD and Nvidia GPUs in these new vram/dx12 driver quality starved games, all of which have had a significant edge for AMD.
NDAs pays the big bills, Digital Foundry is for sure signing those NDAs with Nvidia.
And they know very well how to play ball and how to P-Hack the data that many will not see.
Winner: 6700XT at $320
This is a great channel and i hope you continue growing. Love these analysis videos.
Thank you!
I like these analysis so much! awesome videos! keep up the good work!
Thank you!
i don't expect the 7600 to be on 6700 xt level
Probably 6700 non xt
Yes, it will compete with the 6650
@@armed_but_blind2768 just the 6650xt, no way they are giving a 6700 with 2gb less vram
Nice analysis as always.
The cards from both will be poor. but thats no real surprise.
Add a 5% margin of error and the uplifts are dire.
The 60 and 600 class cards have cemented their low end status with this launch being unable to attain 1080p high for newer titles .
and( personal opinion ) the 128 bit bus will speed the cards demise irrespective of the Vram buffer. as its a smaller shovel to move an even bigger pile of sand.
Keep up the great work and thank you.
7600 because 6nm vs 7nm is minuscule.
And the 4060 because its actually a 4050 die since its the first ever XX7 die used for a "60" class card they have ever released.
Price fixing cuties ❤
Great analysis, as always.
Thanks!
Who wins=Corporations
Who lose=buyers
Clear, concise and informative as always.
Thanks!
I have a 1060 6gb and am looking to upgrade to a low power newer model with 12gb+, what would be a good option with possible undervolting? ((the cheaper the better)
You may be able to find a deal on an RTX 3060-12GB if you find retailers dumping them before the release of the 4060 in July. Cheapest AMD 12GB would be the RX 6700 XT. Otherwise, nVidia's this generation option is the RTX 4070 which, I showed performs great at 160W and you could do some undervolting to do even better. However, even buying an openbox unit, those are still ~$510-$540...so still very expensive compared to that 1060.
@@ImaMac-PC thanks!
The 4060ti is the 4050
3050 - 23.8% of full die cores, 276mm², 128-bit bus, 8GB GD6, PCIe4 x8
4060ti - 23.6% of full die cores, 190mm², 128-bit bus, 8GB GD6, PCIe4 x8
The 4060 is a cut-down 4060 mobile (4050 desktop)
Laptop 4060 - 107 die, 32MB L2
Desktop 4060 - 107 die 24MB L2
The 4070 is the 4060
3060 - 33.3% of full die cores, 276mm², 192-bit bus, 12GB GD6, PCIe4 x16
4070 - 31.9% of full die cores, 295mm², 192-bit bus, 12GB GD6X, PCIe4 x16
This lineup is a scam.
great information, subbed and liked, i get almost the same numbers, i use timespy at a benchmark site, it tends to overvalue amd cards. is techpowerup more precise?? i cant find the relative performance chart! i have a very old gpu, but still i dont upgrade unless prices go down more, in europe the 4060ti will be 439 euro, no thanks. i dont pay more than 300,- and 450,- eur for the 4070 is the max for me. ty for answering the gpu comparison question, so i can update my sheet
Thanks and welcome aboard!
@@ImaMac-PC well lol i asked about techpowerup... if u only read 5 words i dont ask in the future. btw i think that 7600 is not on 6700xt level. its only 10% faster than the 6600, a 6700xt is 24% faster
I really liked the graphic work :) I agree with what you say, but assume that if they actually price the 7600 at $269
The Vram is only 8 GBs.😞
Good analysis as ever , let's not forget that $300 for RTX 2080 performance (in fact , if Pascal had been optimised properly for titles in more recent years 1080ti oc performance with 3GB less VRAM).in 2023 doesn't present a good deal.
And 2080ti performance for $500 with more VRAM is what we should have had in 2020 (with a reasonable 256 bit bus even - we don't even get that in 2023).
It's clear what's happening with nVidia and AMD trying to take advantage of interia from a massively distorted market . Fair play to them but I would like to see more of the tech press call them out on it.
4070 12gb is updated 2080ti/3070/3070ti for half money...
@@zdenkakoren6660 I'd say it's more of an low power 3080 for maybe 25% less - should have been called a 4060ti and priced at $400
AMD could've demolished the 60 series if the 7600 had 10-12gb as standard. It was a big mistake giving it only 8gb, at least if it's priced at or above 300 dollars. If it's less than that, there's definitely an argument to be made for it, but I doubt they sell it for less than $299. They can salvage the fumble if the 7600 XT has 16gb and is priced around $320.
I am rather frugal and do not upgrade my video cards very often. I just recently upgraded from my RX580 with 8GB of VRAM and it has served me well for 4 years and counting. I recently purchased the RX6800 with 16GB of VRAM. It was the most cost effective solution with this much memory. Ngreedia's planed obsolescence leaves a bad taste in my mouth and charging a premium at the same time while downgrading year on year performance should be noted. AMD is not without its faults either but I feel I got a card that will last for several years without compromising performance or feeling like I paid too much.
I tried for way too long to get a 6800 non-xt when they came out but they were out of stock forever so I waited and ended up getting a used 3080 for $450. That 6800 would have been nice.
@@pf100andahalf The 3080 is a great card and $450usd is a great price. I think everyone should buy used or cards from previous generations. Time to skip the 40 series and current 7000 series until prices come back down to realistic costs.
Does 16gb on 128bit on 4060ti degrades performance vs 8gb 4060ti🤔
My 1080ti is still doing the job, but I want to upgrade for very long already.
I bought a 4k Screen but there are no Cards for it that I would consider worth the Price.
Maybe a XTX for 1000€ if the Powerdraw issues are fixed and I can be sure that it works fine for Ai.
1440p it is until then :)
I did the same , switched my 1080ti for a xfx 7900xtx ...my power consumption on 4k/240hz is around 40W single monitor (on windows,YT) and i think thats OK, in 1440p it drops below 12W. With Adrenalin u can also reduce the power consumption without sacrificing too much FPS . there are some YT videos about how its done ! On the other hand if power consumption is the thing for you , go with the 6950 or a equivalent nvidia GPU!
@@Vr6Zecke The 6000Series is TERRIBLE for Ai. Not gonna happen :)
But yea, I heard about switching from 144Hz to 142Hz and Powerdraw is fixed... but I think I wait until a refresh of the 7000 comes, or my PC breaks down :)
Nothing is a good deal... I hate current year ^^
@@LUL69214 At least you got a deal on that one. I had to buy my 1080ti in the first mining boom because my previous Card broke. But at least I can say that it was kinda worth it because it still does a good job, around 6 years after I bought it xD
Just did the math and came to 12,50€ a Month for 6 years = my Purchase Price of 900€... you got a great deal with your 20 Bucks :D
3:23 You can say that again.
Why are the bus so small on the 4060 series? I cant see it being better then a 6750xt especially since they are now under 400, and the 7600 is similar to a 6700 non xt which is 330 now but 2gb extra ram hard to justify next gen
Segmentation. They don't want the 4060/4060ti to game at 1440p. Jensen wants you to pay up for the 4070 for 1440p gaming.
Your analysis perfectly fits in already known facts.
I got 6650xt 5mo ago for 280USD (plus local 21perc VAT) It is enough for my only 2 online games, I can play the "more" hw hungry of 2, which is World of warships (DX11) comfortably at 1440p and ymit would run even 4K.
But I understand many new games starting kick 8GB gpus at 1080p hard.
Nvidia 4090/3090 is 1,63x performance. If node uplift kept in lower tiers, should not be 1,63x 4070 over 3070? 4070 is already just 1,31x faster. 4070 is just 1,54x faster than 3060ti.
4070 is 54perc of4090, 3070 is 67perc of 3090 and 3060ti is 58perc of 3090.
Nvidia is downgrading gpu chips by half tier while increasing prices of 4070 to level or 3070ti.
That's less than 3060ti performance for 3070ti price.
While they made hype with 4090 and just 100USD price increase to be mere 7percent inflation over 3090 price, they think they can milk lower tier crowds.
Better to support Arc and get 16gb vram with good bandwidth as a bonus.
they dont even sell one gpu in my country, and if they did..... an a750 would probably be more expensive than a 6700xt so probably for me intel is not a good enough buy in my country
@@curie1420 that's a dam shame. No other choice than go Radeon then.
Most people buying that price range dont have motherboards that can even use the ARC cards properly.
A comparison on the mid tier GPUs for the die sizes should be an interesting insight how they are maximizing profits by selling you a smaller silicon chip this generation.
Also the FE cards are missing components on the PCB compare 2 to 3 generations ago and the vram bandwidth is being reduced compare to last generation.
Nvidia is cutting in so many layers cause they need to find that extra profit margin, cause the back door Crypto selling are now falling through in sales and bonus being reduced.
Jensen is setting up the 8GB cards so perfectly yummy for so many, but they don't know that over +20 AAA games are now being delayed well into 2024 now.
When these games come on the market millions will have bought the 8GB cards and will see the huge vram demand these new games will have. CEO planned obsolescence is no joke gamers.
Many will be disappointed that the $300-$400 they spent will only allow them play AAA games at 1080p medium setting or lower. That used to be the expectation for people buying $150 GPUs. I wonder if the PCB components of the 4060 will look like PCB components of a 1650 Super from 4yrs ago?
@@ImaMac-PC That is very correct, it will be AAA next-gen games 1080p at medium and 1440p at medium/low on these 8GB cards which are already cut down near to the bone. You can easily compare the PCB layouts at TechPowerUp they have the pictures in their reviews. As we have seen with the RTX 4080 FE which is an eye opener.
Let em rot until they're forced to sell them at half price.
I think the current strategy is to sell half as many at the high price. I wonder how many quarterly investor calls Jensen has for this current strategy?
Whoever wins we lose
Almost 3X the tensor core throughput to help fluff up DLSS FPS and claim performance gains that do not actually exist. At the 50-60 tier, the baseline performance isn't consistently high enough to cover the latency penalty and I'd much rather have higher raw FPS.
remember, the 4060ti was supposed to be the 4070 if it wasnt for the backlash on the 4080 12gb
Imagine buying a new 8GB card for 440+ (EU price, 4060 Ti 8GB version) in 2023. And even the 16GB version will cost 500+. For that money you can get something way faster from previous generation. I agree with those who say that the 8GB version of 4060 Ti should not even exist and instead 440+ should be the price of the 16GB version.
The 16gb 4060ti should be 400usd! Since the performance uplift IS so poor 🤷🏾♂️! The vram should be a bonus at this point 🤷🏾♂️
4060ti 16GB is a great product with a terrible price imo. Yes it's only 15% more raw rasturization generation on generation but frame generation in single player games is actually pretty cool. 16 gigs of ram is welcome at this tier despite the compromised bus. DLSS and FSR are comparable at 4k but at 1080 and 1440, there is a noticable qualitative difference in favor of the former. Stability, CUDA cores, and NVENC, are the reason for Nvidia's success. They don't make the best gaming hardware; they offer the most balanced productivity and gaming package in the market. $500, though? That's rough. $450 would be better. Anything other than that and I would just unilaterally recommend it, frankly.
i have 2060 Super, so for me buyng 4060 Ti 16 GB will be impruvement in FPS :) and 16 Gb video buffer give me more stabillity in FPS for the future :)
Or, you could just buy a faster 3080 on the used market for 450 USD and let the 4060ti die 😅! Frame gen IS like first dlls 1.0, its a mess. And you will only be a beta tester for ngreedia
@@jacobgarcia4659 3080 widout guarantie? no way! 4060 Ti 16 Gb will give me enoght FPS boost for next few years! and i will have guarantie insurance for that time...used 3080 on other side for sure not give that insuranse.
Even better , get a new RX 6800xt with the same VRAM , similar performance and a warranty for the same cost!
@@tourmaline07 well i now that, i am waiting to see what performance do 4060 Ti 16 Gb then diside what will buy :)
@@MrDraven72 that's not the point... the point is not to buy new cards and so the lesson of nGridia is clear... if you buy a new one you're just supporting thieves who will continue to rob us
will be upgrading from 960 to 4060 ti
nobody cause both are trash finally nvidia and amd are competing for who can sell the worst card for the best price
4:37 counting pixels, how fast can it be done with a math spreadsheet a plot the graph in the background, drag'n dropping points. best BS stopper available in your office suite.
But I think some good thing (not properly explained by NVIDIA mainly, neither in detail anywhere and we cannot test it yet) is shown in the misleading Frame Gen bar plot.
Roughly, you can see a 170% to 300% performance on the Upscaling/Smoothing Tensor-AI. It's like the firts time it actually works and do sth noticeable. And it's scaled right the same way RTX 4090 does (up to 3x in temporal-1D like- video flow, or squared that in spatial frame -2D like generation-, that's +70%), RTX 6000 theoretical with full die seems to be able to go up to 4 times in 1D like work and 2x in upscaling resolution in a video flow, and so upscaling "accurately" with AI from 1080p to 2160p like it's trained to. IT's a pitty that DLSS is a video super-resolution technique and should be called DLSR or Nvidia DLSR, not 3 but the actual working NDLSR, because DLSS 1 and 2 is most of an DL in-frame SR (DLIFSR and not DLSS). Don't know who is puting wrong names to algorithms and products at Nvidia lately.
That is a great thought and similar to what I do. Just overlay a grid and now I don't have to count as many pixels but it allows me accuracy to within an FPS 🙂
@@ImaMac-PC much simplier your method for bar graphs, indeed. Taking measures on scaled grid.
While mine helps you obtain xy coordinates in whatever units they are in any curve or shape... Precise enough to interpolate or adjust functions and do maths or simple enough to use them as a table, make your own graphs with same data set or extend the curve and extrapolate, predict or whatever you want to do... Like overlay a custom grid of the resolution it makes sense for you and make fast measures like yours with proper meaningful figures and rounded values.
Wow even with RT on 4060 ti didn't improve wow way to upsell old technology in new gpu for maximum price nvidia
That is a good point - the 4060ti also benefits from better RT hardware and doesn't even do that well considering. I think this card might end up weaker than a 3070 in some instances.
Because it has less cores
It's a good improvement if they called it what it is... a 4050.
I think AMD has a Surprise GPU on 25 of May to present other than the RX 7600. They know that 8GBs VRAM isn't going to cut for high end 1440p Gaming.
it doesnt have!! rx 7600 will be disapointment too probably with price and performance, seems that rx 6650xt and 6700/xt are much better deals then 7600 or 4060
I dunno. I feel like AMD would argue "If you need more VRAM at lower prices, buy RDNA2." They unfortunately still have old stock to clear.
@@WickedRibbon Better to die tomorrow than today, AMD marketing strategy 😁😁😁
@@WickedRibbon Bigger Vram GPUs age better, thus more time for research and resource mobilisation for Nextgen...
@@WickedRibbon RDNA2 will be better in anyway because of vram and performance and rx 7600 smells on failure if price will be over 260$
looks like i am keeping my 3060ti forever
upgrade from 3060ti is minimum 4070 or next gen
It'll easily get you through this gen...it's a really good GPU!
Im open to say the 4060 is a lose unless amd sets a 260 price to crush a fat win
Already Failed why even bother. Just use 30 series or 6700-6800 wait until 50 series.
Theonly thing you can consider on is 4080 and 4090
Thanks for the Video 👍
Thanks!
I'm in the market, will compare the 7600 Vs 6600 at £200 and 6650 at £250 here in UK. 7600 needs to be sub £300 and very power efficient to be in the conversation.
Performing @ 6700xt for the price doesn't seem too bad for the 7600 but then you realise it only has 8gb and there are games coming out that even at 1080p you can't run maximum textures
AMD badly want to sell the rx 7600 8gb for 299$. The only problem for them now is that Nvidia has taken the 299 spot with the shitshow that is 4060 8gb.
So AMD have to go lower.
Probably 269$
according to techpowerup the 3060 8gb and 3060 12gb are the same, and 3060ti gddr6 and 6x are the same, which is for sure not correct
I don't think AMD will fare much better. RDNA3 will be roughly 10-20% faster than RDNA2 with no frame generation to hide behind. Nvidia will offer just enough value to stay a step ahead of it's competition. None of these GPUs will sell particularily great, but Nvidia will have an easier time selling them because they have more of the market share than AMD.
If they Price the 7600 AT 250 usd that would make many people consider buying AMD ! Since the 4060 is too Weak for RT , and Frame gen IS New and fsr 3.0 IS on its way
@@jacobgarcia4659 due to nvidia mindshare they will sell more cards
Ngreedia shady move
"rebrand 50class card as 60class"
RX7600/4060 $199
4060Ti $249
4060Ti 16GB $299
There fixed the prices comparred to current:
RX6700 $270
RX6600 $190
A750 $150
if rx 7600 will be over 269$ msp then that card dont have point because you already have rx 6700 10gb for 280$ or 310-320$ for 6700xt and performance of rx 7600 will be around 6650xt or 5-8% above
DLSS 3 should have been called GSYNC 2
3090 Ti 24 GB tested 4K ultra in "RYZEN 7800X3D vs RYZEN 7600X vs RYZEN 5950X | Test in 6 Games" video from Mark PC channel, do you thing results are fake or wrong? The slower (less powerful, less cache, but similar clocks) the cpu is, the less FPS are delivered while the more RAM is allocated. Amazingly NVIDIA Load % it always shows 98% , except in one game where even the 7800x3d shows 91% load on the GPU although more cores are working, less ram used and the other cpus are losing lots of FPS with more ram used and more load % in the GPU side.
at 300+$ price none of this wins ,basically this card will be fast as 250$ rx 6650xt but slower then 6700xt 12gb for 310-320$
audio is too low my friend
Thanks for the feedback!
It's 550€ in my country. Disgusting, the 4070 is around 630€.
Good analysis.
Thanks.
What a lul the 4060 is.
So with tsmc's better node and a newly improved architecture, we get this load of rubbish.
I wonder why dlss3 is only available on the 4000 series???
I want performance, not features.
So true lmao. Though, I'm going to add, not just for the people who purchased an Ampere/RDNA 2 card. Both Zen 4 and RDNA 3/Lovelace are "skip" generations for everyone. If you buy it, its futureproofing value will be quite lower than if you just wait for 1 gen. ONLY buy this if your system is literally going to die in the middle of waiting if you don't upgrade.
People still defended 8GB VRAM as current as 2022. That's why the GPU gens are really bad.
Zen 5 and RDNA 4/RTX 50 will be the "buy" generations. That's my prediction.
Unless crypto r eternal lol
7600 will rot on shelves at 299 or more. I mean you can get a 6700 10GB for less than 300
Unless we're all training AI in the next few years, they won't be able to sell new GPUs. The market is flooded with 30 series, which are very good cards, 4090 gamers can skip multiple generations and still max out settings. The used market exceeds gaming demands, there is absolutely no need to buy a new card at a premium.
Actually we will be training ai for the next 20+ years. AI will not stop.
AMD AND Nvidia are working together ! AMD gpu's are always close to Nvidia speed and just a little cheaper, this keeps any other company out of the market, Intel needs to beat performance and have lower MSRP to beat them!
That would be the right formula for Intel to overtake AMD in market share next generation!
I was able to get a amd 5700xt 8gb for 100usd used which is equivalent to rtx 3060.
The 4060 is not even worth considering at launch price.
Any old gen gpu priced at 299 would have blown rtx 4060 with extra vram to spare.
That was a good deal!
0:14 is that even a question? Everybody knows that nvidia lies all the time,like they did with the 3.5gb gtx 970,rtx 3080 being twice as fast as the rtx 2080,etc,etc
amd kill thier fluid motion so im not gonna buy radeon anymore while nvidia doing opposite, the move forward to incorporate DLSS to directshow
also nvidia just put cheap 106 chip to be Ti instead of using cut down 104 chip like 2060s or 3060ti. but they sell it at 104's price
pci-e 4 x8 with 8 gigs of ram on 288gb/s will choke in 2 years
or shall i say it will be a stutterfest
Pcie x8 🤢🤮
So if you have 5700xt 8gb for 150$ no need to buy this xD 5700xt is on par with 2070s/3060/6600xt and even Xbox series S~ series X
Maybe if Ngredia stop spending so much on their fake marketing they can afford to lower prices.
Nope! $269.99 for the 7600.
Yep. And with the lower performance than expected, I can understand why they decreased the price. It's like the XTX all over again.
did nvidia lie when they said 3090 is 8k gpu??
Of course they did 😂
Did AMD lie when they said the 7900 XTX was a 8k gaming ?
3090 Ichill x3 It says on the box 8K :D maybe movies i guess
@@kennethpereyda5707 Well, it is substantially faster than a 3090, so it may do well 🤷🏻♂️
Bravo...consumers have to go on a global strike..and simply don't buy new cards...only then nGridia and AMD will learn a lesson and have to lower prices
Underwhelming, overpriced, underperforming new gen GPUs to play broken, over monetized, grindy, repetitive, soul-less 'live service' or cut content games or remakes from when games were actually good.
This is the sad state of PC gaming today.
The 4060 would be better than a 7600 since it will use 70 watts less than the 7600 and pay for itself in the first month if it's 299.
6 years later same vram pathetic
No one wins whohoooo
7600 vs 4060 who wins? Rdna2 wins :-D
not if it cost 329.00 plus
6700 10gb
@@kennethpereyda5707 ofc metters on local markets however 4060ti 16gb vs 6800xt for pretty much same price? Thats no brainer if you want to play singleplayer and multiplayer at the same time especialy. Its hilarous, typical dllss value is zero if other gpu is simply faster without any upscaling than 4060ti 16gb with dlss. + 6700 bellow 300 thats realy hard to beat. Nvidia has pretty much nothing for avarage consummer..
@@kennethpereyda5707 You know he said Rdna2 not Rdna3
I got no beef with both AMD , and Nvidia I hate them equally but the 4060 takes the W here.
I’m glad I’m not poor enough to stress about this nonsense. Haha.
Not gonna buy these weak & overpriced cards...
I am sorry...
Don't be sorry! Say it out Loud 'n Proud!
Well, did you people ever considered that you are not supposed to upgrade every generation? You got spoiled by long history of insane gains generation from generation. However, Moore Law is Dead. This is the new normal. You will get the same uplift through two generation and upgrading from RTX 2000 series to RTX 4000 series has a lot of benefits. Especially if you pick up the right models like RTX 4070.
👍 best rewiewski keeping my 1060 6 gb with broken fans until it catches fire
Boost the fan speed to get you through another generation!
1. "Pricing strategy" is a very pretentious description. It's a plain duopoly that enacts with impunity a cartel's "pricing strategy". US doesn't intervene because US loves to yap like a moralfag but always only up to the point where there's any risk of its corpos losing profits or position globally.
2. 4060 may be able to hold at $300 for a while because NVIDIA but 7600 is DOA if it comes in above $250.
3. All three 4060 models seem performance engineered to aid with selling older models. 4060 Ti is very nearly a 3070. If the 4060 Ti is made to not be in stock, maybe you'll get a slightly discounted 3070 especially if the latter is 1-2% faster. 4060 is the same with 3060 Ti and it doesn't really nuke the 3060 12 GB because it has just 8 GB. As I said, all 3 models are carefully made to avoid nuking older models. This carefully choreographed gymnastics would absolutely not work without AMD's direct non-combat help. AMD could literally nuke NVIDIA's whole strategy collapsing its prices under ~$600 and forcing NVIDIA to either sit on stale stock and take huge losses or go into a price war to still take huge losses but retain market share. But AMD just sits pretty, doesn't compete and allows NVIDIA to not feel the pain of its mistakes.