Good morning❤ 4 years sober! I am grateful for AA. It changed my perspective and gave me a relationship with my higher power. Today, I know that I never have to drink again. Today, I get to show up as my higher self and be the woman God created me to be.
Good morning AA Family. I am greatful for another day never promised. I am greatful for my freedom. I am greatful I can make better choices. Thank God for my sobriety. And I am greatful to be able to work hard for my family. I am greatful for a roof over my head. Thank God for another day. Have a blessed day.
Oh Bob, I thank you and your God who helped you survive and heal. I want to like every 5 minute, and hearing you gives me hope, faith, will and inspiration to not give up but get up,.
Good morning AA family. Thank God for the rooms of AA NA. I am always greatful for the rooms of AA NA. I am greatful for my freedom and sobriety. I am greatful to get to work hard again. I am greatful my chains are gone. I am greatful to give back as well. Thank you AA family.
🌎 Amen. Thank God for the rooms of AA NA. Thank God for sobriety. I am so grateful for the rooms. I will honor my freedom and honor my family and job. Thank God I can go to work today. I can work a honest life. I am greatful for the roof over my head.
It's pretty easy for me to stay sober when things are good. I can pretend things are going good and stay sober, but when you are stripped from your purpose and everything you've worked for. That is when my sobriety needs to be forefront in my mind. The second you open my eyes till you close them at night, till then on if I ever forget again it repeats
Pretty easy for me too cross addicted I was about twenty years six years drink and durg free but I just keep telling myself yes if I go back to old ways that shite will kill me its that simple
You don't get long term peace in recovery figured that out from life's journey but you hand it over to find the calmness in that you find peace to accept what goes on around you
Thank God for AA NA churches. I will always be grateful for the rooms of AA NA and churches. There is Freedom in the rooms. I can also give back. Thank God for the help everyone has given me. I am greatful my chains are gone
Such beauty in the way this man has changed his life mind talk outlook on life really beautiful how AA works but maybe it is maybe it isn't you understand 12 steps people's keep coming back just drop the ego it goes straight to your head
Hey what's up dude? Not me man. I was in the punk scene in Ohio at that time.... might have gotten in less trouble in Oklahoma! Haha, hope you have a great day :)
I understand being beaten by alcohol and the rock bottom. It is completely unnecessary to conflate that with the idea of God or the Grace of god or being an alcoholic means having some kind of distinct alcoholic ego. This thinking is what happens when you immerse yourself into AA's doctrine year on year and you don't get exposed to opposiitonal challenging views from outside.
@@tacomike417 It has been many years since I read any AA literature including the extended literature, but from memory I believe Bill W. stated that he wrote the 12 steps in around 20 minutes. This was easy for him as he came from the Oxford groups, an evangelical order who believed they could communicate directly with God and save the world. Bill W. said he left it as he only wanted to save alcoholics. The essential premise behind step one or the first three depending on how you want to look at it, is that no human power could have relieved our alcoholism. The implication is that without the application of a non-human power the alcoholic 'must' drink again - there is no human will or choice to prevent this, it is inevitable. In my view, alcoholics have been trying to rationalise and make palatable the idea they must find a god ever since. and so they have tried to say this is a spiritual program to deflect from the reality that its basis comes from and is fully compliant with a religious evangelical program. I fully identify with the speakers experience of not being able to stop drinking and not being able to continue. This is the point in the Big Book if I remember correctly might be called 'the jumping off point'. And when I reached that point I returned to AA meetings, not determined to beat this by application of the program. I returned fully knowing that I could not stop drinking and that at some point I would drink again. This was deflation. And, to date it was my last drink. I didn't beat alcohol, I didn't work a program to beat alcohol, I didn't get a sponser to beat alcohol. Alcohol beat me into a humbling submission. The fellowhip of AA enabled me, over time, to change my thinking about alcohol. I had not lost anything. I had got rid of something and that type of thinking took me many months to some years. AA people facilitated that. For many people, alcohol is also a symptom. So when they put the alcohol down they are left with themselves. This is why Bill W. did not mind the agnostics, because he was convinced that sobriety would eventually force alcoholics to kneel before God. My view is that if after you are sober you wish to lead a life following a god of your own understanding that is your gift to do; but this should not be under the premise that you 'must' drink again if you do not. The 12 steps are reverse engineered. The intent is to get people to see themselves as doomed if they do not comply. Atheists have been in AA from the outset and they wanted a secular program, but unfortunately in my view, it was Bill W's baby. I am one of those left with issues when I put down a drink. I learned in AA that there was no problem a drink could not make worse. Sanity has returned because I realise that there is no problem that alcohol cannot make worse. The change of viewpoint was the 'return to sanity' and was enabled by people in AA and did not require a god. I would probably still be in AA today if the program was simply one of simple mindfulness or 'just sitting' meditation and an environment where people were free to go and find what suits them. It is not, it is an environment of people constantly tring to gaslight themselves into believing they must hand their will and life over to god. Totally unhealthy and probably killed as many as it has saved in my view. My last drink to date, 1982. I wish you well.
@@budte 🤔🤔🤔 I guess you haven’t heard of Jimmy B or Jim B… he’s 1 of the first 10 in AA and his story A Vicious Cycle is in the big book 1st and 2nd edition. He didn’t have a “God”, just a higher self:) As YOU understand “God”is the 🔑 key to a power
Good morning❤ 4 years sober! I am grateful for AA. It changed my perspective and gave me a relationship with my higher power. Today, I know that I never have to drink again. Today, I get to show up as my higher self and be the woman God created me to be.
Alanon member here... ...doing steps 10 thru 12, at this stage. Nice to hear this talk.
Good morning AA Family. I am greatful for another day never promised. I am greatful for my freedom. I am greatful I can make better choices. Thank God for my sobriety. And I am greatful to be able to work hard for my family. I am greatful for a roof over my head. Thank God for another day. Have a blessed day.
Hanging on by our prayer tonight praise God tomorrow will be here soon
I love your truth I'm 10 days sober alive I ador
e you soo much Bob.........xos
Oh Bob, I thank you and your God who helped you survive and heal. I want to like every 5 minute, and hearing you gives me hope, faith, will and inspiration to not give up but get up,.
Good morning AA family. Thank God for the rooms of AA NA. I am always greatful for the rooms of AA NA. I am greatful for my freedom and sobriety. I am greatful to get to work hard again. I am greatful my chains are gone. I am greatful to give back as well. Thank you AA family.
🌎 Amen. Thank God for the rooms of AA NA. Thank God for sobriety. I am so grateful for the rooms. I will honor my freedom and honor my family and job. Thank God I can go to work today. I can work a honest life. I am greatful for the roof over my head.
It's pretty easy for me to stay sober when things are good. I can pretend things are going good and stay sober, but when you are stripped from your purpose and everything you've worked for. That is when my sobriety needs to be forefront in my mind. The second you open my eyes till you close them at night, till then on if I ever forget again it repeats
Pretty easy for me too cross addicted I was about twenty years six years drink and durg free but I just keep telling myself yes if I go back to old ways that shite will kill me its that simple
First things first Make sure your relationship with a power greater is good primary purpose. Peace
You don't get long term peace in recovery figured that out from life's journey but you hand it over to find the calmness in that you find peace to accept what goes on around you
Thank God for AA NA churches. I will always be grateful for the rooms of AA NA and churches. There is Freedom in the rooms. I can also give back. Thank God for the help everyone has given me. I am greatful my chains are gone
Thank you, needed this 🙏
Love the name.
Wow amazing
Such beauty in the way this man has changed his life mind talk outlook on life really beautiful how AA works but maybe it is maybe it isn't you understand 12 steps people's keep coming back just drop the ego it goes straight to your head
Taco, I grew up in the punk scene in the 90s. I knew a Taco Mike. In okc and Edmond Oklahoma. Could this be you?
My name is Micah.
Hey what's up dude? Not me man. I was in the punk scene in Ohio at that time.... might have gotten in less trouble in Oklahoma! Haha, hope you have a great day :)
What's up Taco Mike??
I understand being beaten by alcohol and the rock bottom. It is completely unnecessary to conflate that with the idea of God or the Grace of god or being an alcoholic means having some kind of distinct alcoholic ego. This thinking is what happens when you immerse yourself into AA's doctrine year on year and you don't get exposed to opposiitonal challenging views from outside.
What would be an example of challenging views from outside?
@@tacomike417 I just expressed one.
@@budte Took me a minute but I see what you mean now. Thanks for this.
@@tacomike417 It has been many years since I read any AA literature including the extended literature, but from memory I believe Bill W. stated that he wrote the 12 steps in around 20 minutes. This was easy for him as he came from the Oxford groups, an evangelical order who believed they could communicate directly with God and save the world. Bill W. said he left it as he only wanted to save alcoholics.
The essential premise behind step one or the first three depending on how you want to look at it, is that no human power could have relieved our alcoholism. The implication is that without the application of a non-human power the alcoholic 'must' drink again - there is no human will or choice to prevent this, it is inevitable. In my view, alcoholics have been trying to rationalise and make palatable the idea they must find a god ever since. and so they have tried to say this is a spiritual program to deflect from the reality that its basis comes from and is fully compliant with a religious evangelical program.
I fully identify with the speakers experience of not being able to stop drinking and not being able to continue. This is the point in the Big Book if I remember correctly might be called 'the jumping off point'. And when I reached that point I returned to AA meetings, not determined to beat this by application of the program. I returned fully knowing that I could not stop drinking and that at some point I would drink again. This was deflation. And, to date it was my last drink. I didn't beat alcohol, I didn't work a program to beat alcohol, I didn't get a sponser to beat alcohol. Alcohol beat me into a humbling submission.
The fellowhip of AA enabled me, over time, to change my thinking about alcohol. I had not lost anything. I had got rid of something and that type of thinking took me many months to some years. AA people facilitated that.
For many people, alcohol is also a symptom. So when they put the alcohol down they are left with themselves. This is why Bill W. did not mind the agnostics, because he was convinced that sobriety would eventually force alcoholics to kneel before God. My view is that if after you are sober you wish to lead a life following a god of your own understanding that is your gift to do; but this should not be under the premise that you 'must' drink again if you do not. The 12 steps are reverse engineered. The intent is to get people to see themselves as doomed if they do not comply.
Atheists have been in AA from the outset and they wanted a secular program, but unfortunately in my view, it was Bill W's baby.
I am one of those left with issues when I put down a drink. I learned in AA that there was no problem a drink could not make worse. Sanity has returned because I realise that there is no problem that alcohol cannot make worse. The change of viewpoint was the 'return to sanity' and was enabled by people in AA and did not require a god.
I would probably still be in AA today if the program was simply one of simple mindfulness or 'just sitting' meditation and an environment where people were free to go and find what suits them. It is not, it is an environment of people constantly tring to gaslight themselves into believing they must hand their will and life over to god. Totally unhealthy and probably killed as many as it has saved in my view. My last drink to date, 1982. I wish you well.
@@budte 🤔🤔🤔 I guess you haven’t heard of Jimmy B or Jim B… he’s 1 of the first 10 in AA and his story A Vicious Cycle is in the big book 1st and 2nd edition. He didn’t have a “God”, just a higher self:) As YOU understand “God”is the 🔑 key to a power