Will An Old Rusty Engine Save Our Season?? *TWO TRACTORS DOWN*
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The fact that both tractors started to fail in such close proximity I am highly suspicious of the fuel. Or possibly sabotage.
I would look at possible contaminated fuel in both trackers. Since it started within an hour of each one.
Only takes a little to ruin spray pattern.
Thought about that but if the 3rd one is ok then that rules out fuel
@@nickkercheval2704 not exactly, the 435 hasnt been used as much as the 525 and 600 and likely hasnt been refueled as recently as the other two. decent chance they got a new load of diesel and have refueled the 525 and 600 and not 435
@@BackTheBlue96 Not knowing all the specifics I have to think they thought about fuel and ruled it out. I have to agree that if they got a recent fuel delivery that could be an issue. If so drain the tanks and put different fuel in
💯 agree, 2 machines same symptoms,1 identical operational similarly
You know things are dire when Robert doesnt even have a pun to help lighten the mood. Sorry you guys are having so many issues. hopefully your luck turns around and it is a spectacular harvest to make up for it.
Stay the course, you guys are strong with great families. Thank you for the great content over the years
After seeing you blame yourself for the injector problems on those buds makes me think of what dad told me when I started farming. He always said don’t blame yourself for doing something you thought was the right thing to do that the time
And something like this was a no brainer to do worn injectors can kill an engine and total it if they suddenly fail and destroy the block then you are really screwed the injectors shouldn't have this problem being freshly rebuilt
Time for case IH to come to the rescue
CaseIH needs to send you a quad trac to save the season
I'm also thinking a Case IH trial loaner stopping by would be great for the Welkers' stress levels. Be a bad look if a green machine showed up instead....😮
I never thought I´d see an American farmer do an ad for a Farmsim game developed in Switzerland/Germany.
Gaming really brings people together. 😁
Sorry about the trouble with two tractors, not a good time of the year for this to happen. Hoping it works out for the best.
Sorry to hear about your Buds!!. Hope you can get them up and running soon. God bless you guys
I sure wish you guys the best. I know you'll figure it out. We're pulling for you!
Great to see it raining Wednesday afternoon. Hope the water will make you smile 😊
Wish you guys were able to demo that newest big Budd to hit the agricultural market. Looks very versatile. Take care Nick Scott and Dad, hopefully you guys make it thru it
I hope that you all get up and running soon!
It's really great that you as a farmer have a touch with the virtual farming. And yeah, Welker Farms Inc. map is available in Farming Simulator 22 thanks to Mappers Paradise.
Now would be a good time for a demo😊
Praying that everything works out for you guys
If you're still having issues with it, not saying your mechanic doesn't know what he's doing, contact Warren "western truck and tractor repair". He's a genius with these engines.
great video guys. Sorry for all of the troubles. Could be fuel ? Anyhow, good luck fixing the problem
I would first check the fuel return line going back to the tanks for restriction since it only over fuels at high RPM.
Air filter would be my next check.
Check the inter/ after cooler. If they get clogged with carbon, it makes them smoke and lose power.
Had this issue on my fishing boat with a KTA 19.
Totally agree, really wish farming simulator existed back when I was into playing video games. I try to find the time and ambition to play for a lil bit here and there but this game would have been amazing back when I played for hrs on end! lol
Not your fault Nick! Prayers that the old ones work. Maybe a demo tractor is available. Very odd that they both go out and are doing the exact same thing when both just had the exact same service done.
Brad is truly blessed that he recovered from the snake bite. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw what he looked like after getting bit. Very fortunate !!
Love this channel, I can't wait for the live-stream videos! very enjoyable
I'm gonna say the same as others and check the fuel. Last time at work (we run heavy equipment for a steel plant) that we had 2 or more machines with similar issues, it turned out to be clogged injectors from contaminated fuel. We had fuel delivered with algie that contaminated the whole fuel tank, then the fuel truck then our machines.
agree algae bloom holds injector pins open causing flooding or rich condition>black smoke...
Algae in fuel is a big problem in Aviation fuel tanks.
All I can say is get a Fass, catches any debris or alage for that matter.
Rick below mentioned fuel return line , absolutely correct the pt fuel system is very sensitive to return back pressure. Run it into an open drum. Also check your tank breather
Real life farmer fixing, #9 wire, duct tape and a big hammer!! Always works. How is moisture holding up?? Real dry here in eastern Alberta, like scary dry!!
The first JD 4240 through 4860 had duel air filters. Changing the outer filter only confused many. The inner filter would get dirty also and cause extreme black smoke. Changing the innner air filter would cure the air pollution issue. Big Buds may have primary and secondary air filters like the fuel system.
as a giants partner i love seeing you promote the game awesome video :d
I’ve played farm simulator back couple years ago. With a bunch of friends, just like good ol days. Hopefully both buds are fixed soon. 🙏
I played a farming game on Facebook which wasn't near as complex as your game. I was building spread sheets to get the maximum out of the game. AND I was getting up at 3am to harvest crops to beat my friends. Then one day I realized that I was spending more time playing farm instead of my real business doing commercial construction drawings. Looks like a really neat game, but I need money.
There are low flow injectors and high flow injectors, I found this out when running a KTA on the Dyno and was getting crazy horsepower and it kept climbing, got the injectors and fuel pump matched and it was back to about 625 H P. This happened after the injectors were overhauled. Cheers my friend
Somewhere and somehow this is yet another educational moment. We just we had the ability to edit the itinerary. Sucks when time is all you don't have. Many possibilities. Pray you all figure it out ... sooner than later.
Praying that everything works out for you guys 🙏
might seem odd but I've experienced a planting season that didn't seem that dusty but all 3 tractors took to smoking one at a time.... an 886, a 1066, and a newer case . and after trying fuel filters and all sorts of other things it ended up being the month-old air filters. it took like 6 guys and almost 2 days to figure that out...... they had just been changed... no one thought it could be that.
check temperature of each exhaust manifold port with IR temp gun to see which cylinders are running hot
Both Buds have the same issue at the same time can only be one thing, and that would be Fuel as it is the only thing that has been added. Very unlikely that both tractors injectors fail at the same time unless it is Fuel.
But the 3rd bud is not having issues
@@anthonymurphy2464 Not really, its still a mechaniacl unit style injector that's just electroically fired. If it was bad fuel, that tractor would be suffering too. I'd say it was a poor rebuild job on the injectors.
@@dieselman8v923 Totally agree.
@@dieselman8v923 there is no doubt about it in my mind it’s bad rebuild. This is why you do not rebuild injectors. Ever!
@@peteparker7396 even New injectors can be bad. I've seen it more than once right out of the box
Thanks for that intro Bob. I haven't heard that in years. I really miss Rush.
I love playing Farm Sim 23 and the Welker Farms map is one of my favorites.
Time for the channel sponsor to send you something to keep you going !
I would try and check the fuel and maybe change fuel filters just as a precaution. I have no experience with farming but in the trucking industry bad fuel can hit you quick.
You three in the truck cab reminded me of my dad and us three boys all crowded in headed to town. Couldn’t leave us boys behind. After all we were headed to the feed store. Our local Agway farm store. It’s always frustrating when you the kind of problem that makes no sense. We all have faith in you men. You’ll get ‘‘em fixed.
Good luck guys. Have you wondered about the fuel? Being they both went down at once?
Sorry for the lack of luck this spring. Like others have said could it be your fuel supply? Hope you found the fix! Good Luck.
Being both are having the issue maybe that's the source
Time to work with your sponsor Case and bring in a new or used Steiger. You certainly are spending more money on these big buds then the payments you would have for a new/used unit.
I have been playing on FS 17, FS 19, and FS 22. On every iteration I have Welker Farms as one of my main maps!
I would make sure air filters are clean, then take a fuel sample and check fuel weight. 2 tractors same problem sounds like fuel
I used a rock between casting and nut when I had a nut spinning on the other side - i see you had a lot rocks in the field so save the tip for the next time :)
My friend has a 1980 Kenworth with a kta 600 and it used to get a $10,000 fresh up every year!
Bad fuel . Possibly gasoline an diesel mix. I've seen it happen before .
don't blame yourself Nick, you was doing maintenance to prevent these problem, if the injectors are failing that's not your fault.. hope you guys get it figured out
This a terribly frustrating time for your farm. Hang in there. You will get it solved. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Great time for CASE to send a demo! You'll get it figured out! God bless
Good luck guys!
Prayers sent from the East Coast for effective repairs, locating of parts and no more breakdowns.
Injectors or bad fuel. But the injectors make sense. Good luck from Portugal 😃
Praying for you guys!!!!
Case should provide you folks with a tractor IMO. For how well you represent them. God Bless ,and I hope you resolved the issues.
You need to have a metal detector tool bar to find all of those spare parts.
Oh and just remove all the iron supplements keeping the crops alive? 😀
We had a machine that did an injector. Thought we would be smart and put a full set of injectors in. Couldn’t get it to go again so new injector pump and all sorts thrown on it. Turns out the brand new injector were faulty!
So frustrating. I feel your pain Nick
Been playing it since it came out I have the whole series. Waiting for 23 to come out for consoles
Damn you guys aren't having much luck planting. Hopefully you guys can get done planting & get those Mighty Big Buds working correctly.
It might be time to cut you loses and get yourselves a new to you CaseIH. At least one save the buds for auxiliary work.
I agree with Mac Dawg - it sounds like dirty fuel.
Really hate to see you guys have all this trouble. Hope things have gotten better by now.
How the hell did you see that opener in the middle of the field from the cab?😂 I think we have to start calling you Hawkeye Nick😂
You guys do amazing work on just about everything. You are doing what you have to do. After a trial of our faith come the blessings. Keep pluggin . . .
Such an inopportune time, I sure hope you guys get it worked out quickly.
Had are 955L and are 955L 13x did something close to that it was water in the fuel we bought that morning at the local fuel station. Sadly it scorched all 8 injectors between the two loaders. Best of luck, Godspeed
On a Cummins with PT fuel pumps if they start smoking like that under load like both your Buds are doing it's not the fuel it's in the injectors themselves. More than likely they'll have a bad set of springs or tips and seats on them. Rebuilding old Cummins injectors is getting to be a lost art anymore. One of the best places still is Pittsburgh power. They're expensive but worth the cost Bruce there has forgotten more about Cummins engines than Chelsea Cummins himself.
@haroldbenton979 I heard an interview with Bruce Mallinson of Pittsburgh Power a few years ago, and he talked extensively about a big problem with rebuilt injectors. Poor quality control in parts was the point of failure he was seeing the most. I'll bet things haven't improved.
True, cummins pt pump rooms are getting harder to come by. We have a pump room at our facility that is very busy. Quality is excellent. Problem is we are on the other side of the world. I think that locations like Alabama that service the gulf would be very experienced in pt fuel system servicing due to the crew boat market which still runs a high volume of k series marine engines
Nick, don't beat yourself down on those injectors. At least when you showed us in the video you put those things back together as clean and the best way that you know how. I'm guessing it's probably the company that rebuilt the injectors fault.
It’s the twisted sisters!! When one goes the other follows closely!
If the motors are to worn out. I hear cat is making new engines for trade in on pre def blocks that are going in pre def items
If the swap works I sure hope you name the company you sent the injectors to in order to save others of this heartache
Thanks for your video Welkers.
I really feel bad that you are having all these problems at seeding time. Oh my how frustrating.
I saw by some of the other comments that there were questions about your fuel. I assume you have probably looked at that.
I know that the injectors can be a real problem if not correct. But it sounds like your mechanic has looked and relooked at them.
Sorry I do not have any answers for you.
I know it is seeding time and seed needs to get into the ground. Could you possibly get a demo unit or borrow a unit or a rental to at least get seed in the ground.
Keep us posted please. Worried about your tractors. Hopefully you find the answers.
Sending prayers your way for answers !!!!!!’
God speed guys.
The Iowa Farm Boy. Steve.
would a fuel additive mixed in the diesel fuel help the engine or it could be an air mix issue,
Great video Nick LegArms and Bob
Sorry to hear Nick...Is Case on the way with a Quad...that'd be handy
It will be interesting what is causing both tractors to produce so much exhaust smoke. I personally is not a fan of rebuild/ remanufactured injectors and have by my experience noted them to be a failure. In my opinion, and experience new injectors is the best way to go. Good luck and I will be watching with great interest the cause to you're problem. Hi from Australia.
look at it this way. it can only get better from here. keep your chin up things will be fine.
A lot of people are getting bad fuel and it's causing fires. Both tractors nearly the same time? Sounds like it's the fuel. Stay safe out there
Sounds like a plugged primary air filter.
If yiur fuel quality is ok
Check the air cleaners
Check the turbo including crossover. Axial and radial measurements
Cut the filters open and check for engine damage. If all good big sigh of relief. If debris identify material, remove cam covers and check followers and cam if steel.
Check the after cooler. Get a boost reading steady state and check the delta p I would expect 2psi there's no actual spec.
Are you setting inner base circle method.... 304 thou on the dial indicator if I recall correctly
These are great engines if you service injectors every 5000hours and fuel pump every 10. Dont screw up the fuel pressure, Just leave as standard. Dont mix cpl parts. Make sure the parts from the old engine are the same cpl
K19 are still made out of seymour and are available. Plenty of these still running here in australia.
Might be time to start upgrading the tractors.. Maybe a couple new big buds are in order
Not Big buds. Just a couple of quadra-tracs
Be a fuel issue maybe ? Especially with both buds going wrong
Only thing is they are running 3 and the third has no issue apparently
Is the bowling ball cannon available in the Welker Farms mod?
When the same problem happens to two tractors at the same time, you need to look for a relationship. Did you get a fuel shipment in recently? Could it be bad fuel?
Not having much luck with the old bud engines this time nick 😮hope you get it sorted out
what a shame you guys worked so hard to get everything ready and now this, i hope for better days ahead.
That is sad about your Big Bud's. Hope you can get the fixed. Maybe it is time to think about one new Big Bud tractor?
Has to be bad fuel, I haven’t watched the end of the video yet but makes all the since in the world. There you got an extra comment out of me for the obvious symptoms lol
There is an old Polish proverb: "Diesel, musi dymić", which means "Diese, have to fume" :) . The black smoke usual means injectors problems and this is regular situation with old diesel engines here, in Europe. If there is too much fuel (when you rapidly press a throttle) or it is not spread correctly (injectors malfunction) then it is not able to burn in the right way and you have a black soot in the fumes. I guess.... :D
You can do it!
Good luck you guys need some love your videos
Hoping that will FIX the engines 🙏🙏🙏👀👍
Old Shoe🇺🇸
There's a chance that there's an issue with air supply to the engine. If the pressure is good, and injectors turn out to be OK i believe you should check the engines to see if they get enough air. Could be just a simple filter problem or something more serious like a turbo.
I know it sounds like a really stupid suggestion, and you have likely already checked, but have you tried running it with the air filter/filters out? Looks to me like its struggling for air....esp with the way it cleans up at idle and just smokes under load... The fuel is likely correct and its just getting starved for air, does it feel down on power at all? Could just be a dusty season and both have clogged up? Or maybe you have serviced both tractors recently with a different brand of filter which blocks up alot quicker than normal in the dusty conditions? Like i say you have likely already checked this, but if not, its got to be worth just pulling the filters right out for one pass just to see if it sorts the problem? Maybe if your reading this comment you can like it up so it gets seen. Hope your able to get it sorted soon, nothing worse than a breakdown mid season, never go wrong in the shed do they!!
Fuel?
I’m saying Bad Fuel? 2 Tractors and Same Issue?
3 rd Bud running ok though
Keep the faith Nick! Keep the faith.
fs 19 player here also played welker farms and contests and a few other maps and mods
Liked this video for your little speech on gaming 👊
be a great time for a demo unit