Esbit 1100ML Solid Fuel Stove - Massive Solid Fuel Tablets!
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- This is the Esbit 1100ML Solid Fuel Stove and in this Agenda Free Review, Luke goes over the Pros, the Cons and why this may be or might not be the right stove for you.
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Esbit 1100ML Solid Fuel Stove
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Price : $54 at the time of filming on Amazon
Weight : 14.9oz with storage bag
Materials : Anodized Aluminum and stainless steel handle hardware
Measurements : 8.07 x 6.3 x 3.35 inches
Max Capacity : 5 cups or roughly 1100ml
Solid Fuels :
Stove can be used with any fold of solid fuel includes trioxane and Hexamine and that includes mutliple cube sizes - when talking about Hexamine, Esbit offers a number of options including 27g or 14g Esbit solid fuel tablets.
Speaking of which, this stove was designed to be used with the larger 27g tablets which were brought to the market for this very specific stove.
8 x 27g tablets cost $13 at the time of filming - they burn up to 12 minutes and in perfect conditions one tablet can boil 1 liter of water
Works at high altitudes and sub-zero temperatures
Long shelf life is great for emergency preparedness or survival usage
My thoughts; the tablets do perform well but are expensive
Can be blown out if not used completely and relit when needed.
Tablets can be broken into smaller pieces
Stink like shrimp and will need to be stored in plastic a bag; I normally store opened fuels in two zip lock bags
Review Pros :
The quality is good
It is a unique system
Size is good
Multiple fuel cubes can be used for quick boil times
Very easy to use - quick get up and go time
Good quality handle - easy to deploy
Smart use of the lid as a wind screen
Large stove pan - big enough to heat up a reasonable meal, boil XX of water; can hold a wash cloth, a package of Roman noodles, lighter, spork and fuel tablets when not being used.
Stove plate offers good wind resistance
Thanks to the design, heat is distributed evenly from the center of the pan
Review Cons :
Expensive for what this system is. It is a nonstick aluminum stove with pan and $54 is a high price for it. For $54 this should be made from Titanium. Seriously, you can buy an entire stove kit including pots, pans, a kettle and more for less than this.
Fuel is pricey.
Wish it was nonstick
Storage bag is just ok
Fuel has a strong smell to it
Somewhat heavy for being a solid fuel stove
Stove can only be used with the pan unless you want to rig something up; not cup or reasonable sized pot is going to sit on the stove plate.
Summary :
Overall I really like this stove and I like what the company has done here and while I do recommend it there are some important points to consider. For an example, to performs very well, certainly gets the job done when it comes to heating up meals and boiling water. It’s easy to setup, break down, easy to clean and easy to use. Also, I like the form factor.
The biggest cons in my opinion are the fact that the stove is expensive, the fuel is also expensive and it stinks and if you are wanting to save weight in your pack when compared to a canister stove, this isn’t it. You can go much lighter with solid fuel with other systems or ultralight if you are willing to build a stove platform.
With this system, its primary use is going to be for heating up a meal, heating up water; it isn’t a system for cooking or for long term burns due to the nature of the fuel. When considering this kit, ask yourself how you plan to use it; are you a heat up some water and pour it into a bag type of outdoors person or are you more of a cooker.
Because of the rather short burn times of the fuel, this stove is what I would consider to be perfect for quick in and out trips; if you were heading out for a longer period of time nothing is going to replace your canister stove.
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I've seen this and been wondering about it, its always solid advice to double bag it 😉👍
Definitely, without any question!
Always remember that hexamine is toxic & must never be in contact (whether direct /indirect, residue, fumes, etc.) with food/water /anything consumed.
Double bagging the fuel, stove & pot/pan bottoms, etc. is very important. Besides, the fuel needs to be kept dry.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of hexamine outside emergencies... I've always got some in my survival kit but I save it for emergencies & just use the stove to burn wood for everything else.
However, hexamine is always a big part of my emergency fire starting kits. It's way better then anything else for a fire starter & tinder, even if everything is wet.
You can start dozens of fires with a single small block of hexamine, it's reusable, lightweight & easy to use.
Failing that my self defense road flare will start any fire in any circumstances, even in a hurricane.
As a SERE Instructor, I used a folding Esbit stove for years, especially in the winter, for heating up water. I could use a standard stainless steel GI canteen cup. It was great for that, but it sure wasn't $54.
I had a pocket-size Esbit heater when I lived in Germany. It was great for heating water or a small meal, but it was a lot cheaper than this.
The shirt-pocket sized model, loved it. Sold everywhere when I was in the U.K. Everyone manning a post on base had one to heat up left-overs for lunch.
@@jkocol leftovers? C rats in the can. B Unit can for coffee.
Just baught this kit recently. Used it last weekend on a backpacking trip. Loved it. Worked very well for heating up water. I give it an A+. 👍👍
I like my tiny pop-up esbit stove that holds four cubes. Its small, light weight, easy to use and does the same thing. At $54 ... its a hard no for me.
I’m not keen on packing a dirty esbit stove inside a cookpot.
I wholeheartedly agree with you sir. I was thinking around twenty-nine bucks. Even then I would have to think about it due to the ridiculous cost of the fuel! Thanks much for sharing!
Good points! Extra cost upfront; extra cost for fuel. It's a 'nonstarter' for me.
Weber lighter cubes at Home Depot I use to light my grill- and they do not smell-highly recommended! Cheers!
I would love to see it tested as a small wood stove. I feel like it would make a good spot to then put a small pack grill over and use with other pots such as the stanley adventure series. As a kit I think those things together would be versatile and hold up well for longer trips while avoiding the need to carry any fuel at all.
THANKS for an interesting post! I had not considered using this Esbit kit with a pack grill.
The way those feet are attached to the stove box, I think they might melt and fall off if it was used to burn wood. They look like rubber. Perhaps replacing the feet with something a little more fire-proof (maybe some steel nuts and bolts) would work.
@@SageBlackthorn With a stove kit like this, you ensure to make good use of the empty space inside the pan/windshield when it's packed away - I can see myself keeping a Trangia spirit burner and a bunch of other cooking implements along with a 300ml alcohol bottle (made from a square/flat-sided pop-top juice bottle) in there for transport, but yes, he's correct that it's not for 'true' cooking due to the complete lack of non-stick coating, but rather re-hydrating freeze-dried meals and boiling water. You could never cook eggs or bacon in this thing without burning it to the surface of the pot, making it very difficult to clean while on the hike...
I bought a small folding twig stove (the one with hinges) of the Lixada type but not that brand, for use with a Trangia burner but also I can use Esbit solid fuel tablets, Firedragon gel, or twigs in it. This is the most versatile and compact solution imo although you can't make a large fire in it obviously.
If you want a small wood stove, just get an Emberlit stove
ESBIT,
Erich Schromms Brennstoff in Tablettenform.
So simple.
Thank you 👍. Agree re: your comment about the smell of the fuel. I will NOT use Esbit fuel for that reason. I had fuel cubes in back pack in the original packaging and the smell still permeated into my clothing in pack. It smells like dead fish.
I love the esbit mini folding stoves, the one that can store 4-6 fuel tabs inside it... fold up nicely. combine that with collapsing stainless steel or titanium cup... and some anti-contact gloves...
and poof, you have a portable cook set you can toss in a glove compartment, in travel bags for bikes or moterbikes... Then if you have a problem, or just want to stop, you can pull over, boil some water, have a soup or coffee... then continue. yep, i kept some powdered milk, sugar, and instant coffee packs, as well as some Lipton soup with it... entirely to useful
That system looks perfect for heating up pouch meals, such as from ration packs.
Ah good old Esbit... brings back memories of heating up MRE dehydrated pork and beef patties in my canteen cup after crumbling them into a package of ramen noodles. Nothing smells quite like it. Most of us in my Army unit had the folding stoves which they still make.
At least somebody else here knows how these things are to be used...
Scares the crap out of me how many idiots are recommending to grill /cook directly over the burning fuel, then eat their poisonous food.
Like, even if you weren't taught in the military like us, the bloody box the stove & fuel comes in, as well as inserts, all warn never to let the fuel come in contact with food, whether residue, fumes, new fuel, etc!
I am beginning to question the wisdom of military surplus/transition to civilian markets, it seems too many people are too stupid to be trusted with anything remotely dangerous.
Though it's an interesting Darwin level trap, if you're too stupid to read/ comprehend a single 8 word sentence or even the skull & crossed bones symbol; maybe, just maybe, the problem isn't with the product.
What happened? People who can't be safe by themselves, always used to have responsible adults watching them... Where did all the adults go & why are the clients being allowed to play with poisonous flammable fuel, flames & food by themselves?
This stove is perfect for me. My wife is a coffee drinker so it’s a convenient way to boil water for her coffee. I like the rectangular shape because MRE entrees fit perfectly. I boil water and immerse the retort pouch in the boiling water. (I know MREs come with heaters but the MRE heaters don’t work very well, especially when they’re old). It’s easy to pour out of the corners of the rectangular pot. Another pro is that you can fly on airplanes with solid fuel, but not with liquid fuel. So depending on your situation (military etc) solid fuel might be your only option. I haven’t done this, but if you throw a few twigs on top of the solid fuel tab, the twigs help heat the water. I agree $54 is steep, but for me it was worth it. It fits the way I camp.
I suspect you can put tent pegs through the holes in the stove so you could rest a cup over the fuel.
i was thinking stainless steel skewers . light , strong and you can get them just about any length .
@@pappy451 yeah, although for that kind of thing i dont think lightness would be a requirement
@@JorvikBerserkir hey it was just a thought . no need to analyze it .
and besides , weight is ALWAYS a factor .
Sometimes you got to think outside of the square cook pot. I have this cook set it is compatible with a trangia burner. Also can be used over fire. Also used it for cooking veggies sausage patties fried egg. Make sure to use oil in your cooking. Elbow grease to clean. I digg the square also doubles for storage. Mine is packed with my spice kit cooking oil packable speculate spoon and fork and a scrubber pad. Don't forget the bio camp soap. Think inside the square
As for a wind break.
I used a sheet of aluminium 14 inches high by 4 feet long.
Mark into 4 X 14" X 1 foot segments, then cut each piece off.
Take 6 X very small hinges, then alIgn the aluminium again.
Mark the hinge layout with 2 on each join, leaving no gap when flat.
Plus leave all hinge joints/rods facing up.
Rivet all hinges, from outside to in, so the rivet head faces under and the squeezed side showing up.
Once that's done the whole thing just folds up and can be manipulated, around many different sized burners.
Works fantastic, and I never bothered painting mine because I like the colour of the aluminium against the darker grey hinges.
Another great review Luke. Yes I agree the price is high for this. Strength and Honor brother.
it is what it is! the tight design, flat pan/pot, and included lid, probably makes this the fastest and most most efficient hexamine cooker there is. it wont fit in your pocket, and wont be available as dirt cheap suplus though.
not what i'd take on a hike. but perfect to have in the emergency box of your vehicle, next to freeze dried meals and instant coffee.
but worth the price, just for the "i told you so" factor, in the prepper pack in your car, next to some rations of freeze dried meals.
Thanks for this review. I was thinking about buying the stove and glad your review gave me some extra insight. 👍
About twenty or thirty or so years ago I made a similar kit just using British army rectangular mess tins.
The mess tins are two different sizes and one fits inside the other, both have a folding handle. The standard issue stove was a rectangular Hexamine one, that fits inside the small mess tin.
Having used the system unquestionably for years it dawned on me that I only ever used one of the mess tins for heating anything, and the other as a 'lid' to reduce boil times. So, I experimented and eventually ended up with the smaller mess tin with holes (about 8mm I guess) on every wall at the top ( about 2cm apart) and a bunch of holes on bottom on one (long) side for air circulation.
I then placed the Hexi fuel block in the bottom mess tin, and placed the larger one on top with the water or whatever...the system looked a lot like this Esbit system...which makes me wonder if someone at Esbit got to playing around with some British mess tins and got the idea? It seems logical, especially considering that the large Hexamine blocks being used in the video are about the weight of British army Hexi blocks!
Of course I'd lost the 'lid' to my mess tin, and so used to use lengths of folded up aluminium foil as a 'lid'... or an enamel plate or something.
The thing is that the British army system I used came with the British army Pattern '58 Osprey water bottle and its plastic mug, so one would heat the water in the mess tin, pour it in the mug for a brew, and then use the mess tin to heat whatever I was going to eat (you'd need asbestos lips to drink from an aluminium mess tin straight off the heat LOL), unless I was heating the food in the boiling water.
I agree, the price of this Esbit system seems exorbitant for what it is. That said, last year I bought a lightweight Esbit triangular titanium stove, weighs about 11 grams according to my scales, and cost £16 (about $22), so Lord knows how much a titanium version of the 1100ml Esbit stove would be!
I like it. Serves a purpose. For $54 should have non stick. First thing I think of(looking at this product) is heating a 2-person main course. Which I never actually do😁. The fuel tab is an uncontrollable animal. It’s Hell fire or nothing. I still use solid fuel sometimes. Usually as my ultra light set up. I really don’t care about weight but I do like to go very minimal on certain trips. Literally use a piece of heavy foil on a rock, the top of my mini Solo stove, some fuel tabs and a cup.
A lot of people compare this to folding one. Yes those are cheap and smaller, but this has a HA cup, better windshield, can be used also with wood and add fancy feast etc to use liquid fuel.
So most important this is mess tin made in HA not plain aluminium like those kidney shaped cups are and are also lighter than tin + foldable esbit stoves. If you don't store your fuel inside this, there is also room to keep 1/3 to ½ of daily food ration in it. Bars candies etc. in a pocket and freeze dried stuff inside this pack.
Few things I would change: 1 make it little bit higher 10cm/4" or so and it fits better in battle belt pocket (keeping volume same or makin it little bit larger) and then burner would be better for burning wood.
I like the Kelly kettle. Free fuel, super versatile too. The stainless version will last year's. I have the full base camp kit £99 in stainless steel and the smallest, traveller for back pack 1 man use.
I've no idea why you'd use that fuel when BCB Firedragon cubes are a thing. Love that fuel.
I use Firedragon cubes, too. They cost a bit, but they are worth it.
Firedragon is not easily available in the U.S.
He did a review of a FD stove a few weeks ago. Liked it, I but admitted that getting fuel for it was difficult.
It looks like it’s made for Fire Dragon tabs.
Good morning brother from Syracuse NY and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures brother
I have been using, for a long time, a solid fuel folding Army stove. It holds a large packet of solid fuel and it all fits into a pair of nesting rectangular mess kits, that have folding handles.
You can fly with hexamine, which is an advantage over liquid fuel.
I like the Cons section of the vid. All my nagging doubts, addressed...
Pretty neat stove i like the compact design. That gel is neat as well
Would love it of you also mention the weight in kg and grams which 90% of the world uses haha
CZcamsr Greencraft from the U.K. demos a survival kit he's packaged up in one of these -- and it does seem to be a good size and shape for that purpose . . . to keep in your car or "Bergen", where weight is secondary to function. But for carrying and cooking maybe not so much . . .
Great review! I agree the shape, weight, and lack of non-stick surface, and price are a deal breakers. Maybe a good option for day trips, because it can be kept at the ready with little maintenance. Definitely, it looks like gear for a specific use, where flexibility isn't the priority. Thank you!
When's round 3 of the Coleman tent review?
I bought the stove because I liked its uniqueness. I've seen other reviews (mostly from Japan) where it was used for ramen, rice, and tea. Most reviews were positive, although many lamented that the lid was not also a fry pan (that would have been nice). I see that it heats more efficiently than the narrow round Esbit Kit. The price, you are right ....very expensive for what you get. Thanks for another informative review.
Another agenda free review in the books. Keep up the great work, Luke 👊
I have the 585ml set. It works great for my needs and it is much smaller. Perfect for hot drinks and dehydrated meals.
Looks neat, but I will stick with my FireBox stove and cook kits!
You can get a small cookset from Walmart for under $6 - a couple more for Hex tablets and you're set. Or make your own little alcohol burner...
Esbit is nice to pre- heat an Optimus 8r or svea 123...everything stays clean... Now a nice copy..lixada stainless steel gasoline burner...
quite a bit better than the old esbit stove.
Excellent review Luke. Decision made.
I have the basic Esbit sove. But I'm going to look for this one. It's usually just a back up. But that one would be good for 2 people. 👍👍👍
looks like you could also just feed some wood into it. or use the trangia gel holder and just cram that into it. Worst case scenario it's still a solid mess kit. But what i love about the new esbit line is the BBQ, which is basically a giant esbit burner that uses coal... which is still a giant solid fuel! i love it!
reminds me, i have a large normal esbit burner (the foldable one in a new design) which also uses 27g tabs too, but also fits 3 strips of the normal ones
You could put a small grill grate over it to use any shape pot or cup..
That is a high price for aluminum but I like it. I can see adding a grill to the pan to use it for steaks, hamburgers, hot dogs, toasting the buns. If I can make items perform double duties, then it's worth the price. Great review.
That would be the stupidest decision you likely have ever made...
NEVER GRILL OR COOK SO THAT THE FUMES CONTACT THE FOOD WITH HEXAMINE (I.e. Esbit type fuel)!!!!!
It is extremely dangerous & you will be poisoned! It can be fatal or cause permanent irreparable damage! Hexamine is NEVER something you want to consume.
That's why the stove was designed to be used with MRE/rations that are boil in a bag & if heating water for drinks, you use the lid that came with the mess kit.
Very dangerous & foolish advice, the fact it even got boosted by the channel creator is beyond f'ed up!
If you have any decency you will edit your post to include a warning at the start to not try this & the danger it poses! I really hope you do.
GREAT DESIGN
Well another great revue thank you Luke for all you do and Susie as well …. S & H
This thing needs 2 things like you mentioned. 1 add on tray that is non-stick and a cris-cross aluminium stacks that can hold other smaller / medium sized pots and pans. This should go directly onto the top of the fuel chamber.
Good video. If that stove is made by titanium or steel. Then it maybe work with wood too. And that stove needs a modifications. If you can put here a multifuel burner, then you can use it many ways.
Thanks Luke, great review!👍
Thanks.
Scenario: you’re stranded somewhere and you’re out of the solid fuel. You resort to using small sticks. How well does it hold up?
Aluminum will melt in a wood fire. Aluminum melts at 1200 F and a wood fire gets a lot hotter than that. I wouldn’t even use charcoal in an aluminum stove. I wish this were steel like the small Esbit folding stoves - you can use wood in those,
That's why I have a small folding Lixada-type twig stove, made from stainless. I can use my Trangia burner in it, and I also carry either Esbit tablets or Firedragon gel fuel as backup, or to start a fire using twigs, for if and when my fuel runs out, or just if I feel like it.
It was a loaded question guys, to prove a point of worthlessness.
@@Spushed I know, that's why I wouldn't get one of these.
@@simonh6371 I run the same system for the same reasons. Solid fuel in a dire pinch because I can't stomach the smell.
With a stove kit like this, you ensure to make good use of the empty space inside the pan/windshield when it's packed away - I can see myself keeping a Trangia spirit burner and a bunch of other cooking implements along with a 300ml alcohol bottle (made from a square/flat-sided pop-top juice bottle) in there for transport, but yes, you're correct when you say it's not for 'true' cooking due to the complete lack of non-stick coating, but rather re-hydrating freeze-dried meals and boiling water. You could never cook eggs or bacon in this thing without burning it to the surface of the pot...
a thought...would it not make more sense to have 2 smaller tabs spaced evenly on the bottom instead of the one in the middle? might make for easier use...and leave the spot in the middle as well..
Nice review Luke. I like the fuel tabs for their stealthiness. :)
at 12 minutes of burn time, that means the esbit fuel costs about $3 for 25 minutes. An 8oz MSR fuel can has a burn time of about 25 minutes and costs $6, so surprisingly the esbit is cheaper on burn time. The MSR boils in a little over 2 minutes so you get 12 boils/can. It seems like the esbit would take about 6 cubes (or around $8-$9) for as many boils. So the fuel can is cheaper on boils.
You could use this with two alcohol burners inside instead of the fuel tabs. For outdoor emergencies The stove part needs to be made of steel so wood can be used when the tabs are gone. If this were steel like the folding Esbit stoves you could use wood or charcoal as a fuel but aluminum will melt.
When I was a kid I used Esbit fuel tabs to power my steam engine and neither I nor my family ever objected to the smell so I wonder if these tabs are different. I have small Esbit folding stoves I keep for emergency use but they are made of steel and I can use wood in them If i need to, or even put a small alcohol stove in them. I see this large aluminum stove as an emergency stove stored in a home or building, Red Cross tent, etc..
agree about the price and weight . you could slide some stainless steel skewers through the air holes to make a grill .
then your small/er round pot could be used . i think 3 or 4 skewers would be enough .
the feet being what looks like plastic is another no for me .
Looks like it takes up way more space than a Trangia stove and mug.
With a stove kit like this, you ensure to make good use of the empty space inside the pan/windshield when it's packed away - I can see myself keeping a Trangia spirit burner and a bunch of other cooking implements along with a 300ml alcohol bottle (made from a square/flat-sided pop-top juice bottle) in there for transport, but yes, he's correct that it's not for 'true' cooking due to the complete lack of non-stick coating, but rather re-hydrating freeze-dried meals and boiling water. You could never cook eggs or bacon in this thing without burning it to the surface of the pot, making it very difficult to clean while on the hike... And no, a Trangia-27 kit takes up about the same amount of space, and is heaver.
That seems more a walker day trip kind of store kick!
Thanks for another informative review.
I have the Esbit E-CS585HA, works well enough for hot coffee, oatmeal and instant soup. I didn't get the Esbit fuel tabs though, twice the price of the Coghlan's. I am not sure how the Esbit smells but the Coghlan's is fine. Bigger trouble is purchasing the solid fuel, most weeks retailers are out of stock on these and have been for most of this year here where I am in Canada. Even Amazon goes weeks between inventory.
You said it all.....
Looks like a good bento box meal warmer. Good for freeze dried foods, canned goods, and the likes.
I have it and like it, but everything you said is true. From the poor fitting bag it comes with to the fact it's made of aluminum, heck even stainless steel would have been better! Last but not least is the insane price for Esbit solid fuel.
Nice stove,in theory. In use,not so much. Some improvement has to happen before I would purchase.
Almost looks useful,... but is maybe just a bit too big for hiking, and if you're car camping, there are lots of other options. When we hiked long distance, we used the old military style solid fuel stoves (Air Force brats, so dads could get us surplus / out of date stuff that still worked fine) that cracked open, and we used the rectangular 'mess tins' on those, and they could be partially closed at an angle to support a single cup. This looks to be a posh version of those, but I think it loses some versatility.
I agree with your review Luke. I find the BCB crusader MKII pretty good and fire dragon gel very inexpensive. It is way less bulky than this one. I guess it just looks good!!
It smells lol. Years ago TAS made a 1 quart pouch, with pouch for hexi stove for that very reason. In 1980s Esbit had a small hexi stove. Bit hard to find around but they are still made. They fit in a issue compass pouch. 1 steel ALICE clip...theres not much that it cant be clipped to outside most backpacks..a compression strap even. If its basically coffee you need its not a bad option. For a 100gr or few ounces, if youve stopped for a few extra brews, or wind is up, and suddenly find that gas cannister is empty....
I have some of these for fire starters..(very small packages). When I was in scouts we used to use sterno stoves, not sure if that is still a thing, or not.
Sterno green jell is still sold on Amazon (and probably elsewhere.)
Sterno & stoves are still readily available at many Sporting Good stores. I, too, had one when in the Boy Scouts back in the late 40's.
I keep some in my emergency kit for fire starters, but I have to Saran wrap then put it in a zip lock bag so it doesn't make my kit stink.
...GOOD ONE, you could use those tablets to heat a house..lol..stay safe..
54 dollars to boil water. Even if all you were doing was freeze dried, it still seems a little pricy. The capacity is nice, especially if you need 4 cups of water for 2 different meals @2 cups each. I can't decide if the pros outweigh the cons on this one. Nice, thorough review as always.
its nice but i would think only suited to specific situations..day at camp or the beach maybe. it reminds me of the 2 billy can and folding hexamine stove kit the british army used to use. bcb crusader all the way for my choice of pack stove. great review all the same.
Thanks for the candor Have had a folding Esbit for years, but use Sterno, or a Trangia most of the time. Solid fuel pellets are a bit too pricy, and emanate a putrid odor.
it looks like a good design. a titanium version would be even better
Smells and Expensive? I am sticking to my titanium multi-fuel cook kits.
Amen
With a stove kit like this, you ensure to make good use of the empty space inside the pan/windshield when it's packed away - I can see myself keeping a Trangia spirit burner and a bunch of other cooking implements along with a 300ml alcohol bottle (made from a square/flat-sided pop-top juice bottle) in there for transport, but yes, he's correct that it's not for 'true' cooking due to the complete lack of non-stick coating, but rather re-hydrating freeze-dried meals and boiling water. You could never cook eggs or bacon in this thing without burning it to the surface of the pot, making it very difficult to clean while on the hike...
You can use an alcohol burner, or even hand sanitizer, and sterno instead of the solid fuels.
It does seem a little pricey for what it does do and its limited use in the bush think I'll pass on this one myself thanx for great review on this product stay safe luke
Hey Luke?
Do you work for the *Department of Redundancy Department* ???
If so, don't quit your day job, you're so good at it.
I found the hexamine had a tendency to evaporate similar to camphor blocks do, if not sealed air tight.
Good review. Thanks.
The German army's most favorite type of cooking system.
as a German I can tell you this is a rip-off. and the army esbit is not a favorite, it's all we got.
That's because German food is as bland as drier lint.
That's why they skip means and fill up on beer. 😆
I returned mine immediately. For $50, I felt majorly ripped off by the quality of the metal. It scratched ridiculously easily - even just with my nails. Went back and got the Stanley cook pot kit instead. Cheaper and way better.
Just because the markings stop at 28 oz. doesn't mean that is the limit. There looks to be about an inch of pot above the line. I do agree about the price and the shape and size. There is to much area for evaporation and bad heat distribution. A smaller but taller pot could have the same volume and utilize the single heat source more efficiently.
Could you potentially use wood in that kit in place of the cubes?
About that fuel storage aluminum foil then drop it in the one thing altoid tin are good for things you never use but might just need some day ,then warp the seam with electrical tape been doing this since the solid fuels started coming out . I buy the new ones just to see how they last and generate good heat .The only time I would ever us one is in case of emergency all the others go to the grand kids they us the hell out of them . Stay safe happy trails. PS stand up wind when you open that tin .
The tab looks extremely flammable,
cut a tiny piece to start a flame and burn a wooden-stick pit instead
The tabs would last forever if you use them as flame starter instead
Great, fair-minded review. Thanks!
Solid review. I like how you can like a product but open mindedly point out its cons, which influences our opinions. If you only talked about how great it is, a lot of people would buy this only to realize it's not necessarily the right tool for most situations
Looks like you could slide a few tent pegs through it and use a cup or whatever you want to heat water
I use it to heat up MREs and other retort pouches because they are rectangular. The shape of the pan fits the MREs perfectly. Yes, MREs come with heater pouches but they don’t work reliably.
It does seem like a limited use case given its shape but 54 doesn't sound unreasonable.
I do not need 4 Cups of heating capacity in one vessel. So, I like the 'clamshell' folding stoves that store three of those tabs and will work with a suitable Stanley or Zebra pot. I would rather have a nesting system of pots. On the other hand, the rectangular shape and the large, low geometry of the Esbit set make for plenty of stability.
Maybe clip one of those grill plates off cheap one off barbecue charcoal burners to fit on top?
That thing is massive. My cook kit fits in the side pocket of my pack. Don't know where I'd even keep something like that.
seems like that would make a good instant raman
Even the three legged modern art piece with. a pin on top is just short of 30$.Thought they were on our side!
I wonder how much of the price point is because it ships international from Japan free.
International shipping is not exactly cheap and its cost must be factored into the overall price of the stove.
Thanks for showing us. A bit costly. Take care.