Destroying 9 of the best rifle lights
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- čas přidán 2. 11. 2023
- We've tested the output on a ton of lights over the last year or two, so lets see how durable they are.
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Anyone else using this to justify a purchase you already made?
LOL... just read the comments!
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just poor people simping for Chinese junk
Bought an Olight, huh?
No, I just think flashlights are cool and like this channel.
But I'm the exception that proves the rule.
Really surprising how a holster company is doing some of the best technical testing as well as destruction tests of weapon lights I’ve ever seen in any other company.
Again… another great weapon light evaluation!!! I run Streamlights exclusively and I have had good success with them all for 5+ years. Some have taken a tumble onto the ground before and worked just fine after each instance. I’m glad someone is out here testing all these lights and destroying them for the masses so we don’t have to destroy ours and pay to replace them 👍🏼
We have a lot of fun with these videos, and I'm glad that it's a useful way to give back to the firearms community!
Dude, you know youre doing good stuff when I literally felt excited seeing this video thumbnail from you guys. That's the utlimate test!
I'm so glad to hear it! We are working hard to bring a load of content this year!
@@WerkzHolsters If you ask me, you've already earned the entire year without producing more videos than this. Y'all've put out a lot of informative and entertaining content!
I would've been disappointed if the Rein 3, Streamlight, Surefire, and HRT failed in any real capacity. I'm surprised the Olight and Tacticon survived so well.
We have seen some early failures in the past by big names. I agree with you that it's surprising that -every- light did so well!
Olights are actually pretty solid lights durability wise, people just hate on them. In my experience most lights fail at the connection points or the switch from constant use.
Honestly, these videos are the reason why i love this channel. Durability testing of lights very similar is specs, and performance is a true blessing.
Thank you so much, and please continue.
Edit: Any chance you guys are working on a active retention holster?
When you consider price I would say that Streamlight is a seriously solid choice. I was a surefire guy originally, but over the years I have fallen in love with Streamlight. I choose to trust my life to them. I have the TLR-7 sub on my CCW handgun, the TLR-1 HL on my favorite full size handgun, and the ProTac on a rifle. It's not a matter of price for me either, I have surefire lights and a Modlite PLHv2. Streamlight won me over regardless of price.
I just wish streamlight would make a high candela option
I agree. After watching their previous torture video on pistol lights and now this one, I'm amazed at how well the Streamlights hang with lights that are two or three times the price and are considered the toughest lights out there. For the price, they are amazing lights that can stand toe to toe with the best lights out there. I run a TLR-1 HL on my pistol and a RM@ on my rifle and they have been great. No problems with them at all.
The great thing about streamlight also is their lifetime warranty. I have a 14 year old protac hlx that went out on me. Sent it to them for warranty work and they replaced all the internals free of charge. Now I have a brand new 14 year old light again
I’m pretty much a cloud defensive guy and have the Rein 1, 2 and 3.0’s.
That battery flicker can likely be eliminated if you tighten the battery jack down inside of the light body.
I’m gonna guess you guys probably have done that, but if not, I think that would’ve helped
+1, I notice that rein 3s need to be torqued tight otherwise they flicker. Other than that, I’d say they work as intended. I’m assuming it loosened up during the durability test. Being that it can be fixed by just tightening it down, it means there’s no catastrophic failure.
Agree they likely loosened up. I wouldn't take the flicker as a disqualification.
I have a rein 2.0
I tightened it down like they said and in less than 100 rounds the battery jack backed off by a full rotation and the light didn't work at all
You guys are incredible. Definitely my go to on any information about lights
@bf4chode2 it’s not your channel to dictate who does what and it’s you who are obvious with your demands. I’m pretty sure that is also the owners son, they can do whatever they want and i think the younger guy did fine. This channel provides valuable information and good holsters, if you don’t like it buy a few thousand dollars worth of lights and equipment and test it yourself.
Dictate? Suggestion, sure. Request, fine. I’m not dictating anything. Calm down Mrs. Flannel-Guy’s-Mom.
It’s comments like yours that discourages some CZcamsrs from making further videos especially if their family is involved:ie insulted. Many CZcamsrs I have watched over the years have admitted that much. You could have made your suggestion without being so rude and attacking the people that put so much money and effort into bringing you these videos. I also don’t get your flannel reference…? If you are insinuating I’m some uptight stiff, no I’m not. You need to get a clue and look at the like ratio between my comment and your and then realize it’s YOU that is the problem.
@@Neptune-ku1es attacking?! Lol you need to get a grip. To your point of people not making content because people are “mean” to them then don’t make content, especially if they are going to involve their family. And the flannel reference is to the guy who you are assuming is the son. I am saying you have the hardest of hard on’s defending that guy, like an overbearing mother would defend their son. Have a good one homie, don’t take things so personally, it’s just CZcams and they aren’t going to stop making content because somebody doesn’t like the cohost of one video. Deep breath.
@bf4chode2 no one cares about your opinions.
Wish they used streamlight protac hlx since a lot of us still have that one..
So many lights. Had to use something a bit more current.
This is a great channel! Lots of information & great job on the video presentation! Very surprised this channel hasn’t blown up but you’ve gotten a new subscriber with me. Thank you for all the awesome work 🤙🏻
Thanks for the great feedback!
As someone who works on night shift. Most of my lights are Streamlight or CD. My MCH's and Rein's are my favorite lights, but can't go wrong with Streamlight and their WML or handhelds. I always recommend both brands.
Both brands in my eyes are worth the price.
Awesome content . Thanks for doing these tests
So, the real takeaway here is that the 'premium' branded lights don't offer anything substantial over the 'budget' lights in terms of durability. Not really surprising to anyone whose run all of these lights on various platforms. My only concern is recoil vibration from heavier caliber setups, like a SCAR 17. That was the only reason I sent with a Cloud Rein 3....otherwise, I've been pleased with Streamlight and Olight.
Suggestion for the future: Flashlights that are not specifically marketed to the WML crowd (like Acebeam, Convoy, Wurkkos, etc) but who have outstanding light properties. I've often wondered if they would hold up mounted to a rifle.....
We have some ideas for a recoil test apparatus. Stay tuned!
I'm *so down* for a Wurkkos/Sofirn and Convoy test. I know a not-insignificant amount of forum members that swear by them as rifle lights, especially Convoy with the C8 and C8+ and the Sofirn SP35, and part of PFlexPro's business is re-driving and potting Convoys for tactical and WML purposes.
These are always my favorite videos.
Glad you enjoy! It's a fun way to give back to the firearms community.
When I saw this video in my recommended, I winced. I have the battle torch v3 and I’ve been running it for sometime. Glad to see it held up along with the more expensive lights. Seeing the stream light protac 2.0 made me uncomfortable since I just bought it and didn’t want to regret my purchase of it. Looks like it turned out to be pretty durable.
I'm glad the video gives you a little more comfort with your purchases. I was surprised by the BattleTorch. Streamlight always seems to perform well in these tests.
Going to a low light rifle class tomorrow. Interesting results to bring with me!
I have the Javelot Tac on one of my rifles, and it survived a fall off the car severe enough to bend the mount. It might be a weak point, but it wouldn't surprise me if the mount was designed to absorb some of the damage to keep the light alive.
I’ve got an arisaka mount on my javelot tac which I like a lot.
Love these tests. I mainly use the Streamlight Pro-Tacs on my rifles and they have held up very well. Don't have as many pistol lights yet but have been impressed with the Streamlight TLR-7a and the Olight Valkyrie.
Thanks for sharing your experience with Streamlight.
What a test.....thank you!
Pretty fun test of those lights. I have a good number of WML's in my collection.. CD REIN 1.0 and 3.0, Surefire Scout M600DF and M640DF Turbo, Modlite PLHv2 and OKW, Olight Odin, and a old school Streamlight HL-X. My current fav is the Surefire M640DF Turbo.. only because it's my newest light. lol. And tbh, I'd had a hard time choosing between the REIN 3.0, Modlites, and Surefire Turbo if I could only choose one.. Excellent lights.
I'm going to check into getting that HRT AWLS though..
Another great video. I enjoy the evolution of testing methods you use. I run a Streamlight Protac HL-X on my AR and a Streamlight TLR7-Sub on my Glock. Keep up the great work! For the naysayers don't hate on the flannel.
Ha! Running the same set up🤙🏽
As far as the Protac, I couldn't imagine needing anything brighter than it
Thanks for the feedback! Streamlight is always a good choice.
Great holsters and great content. Thanks for sharing, as I'm currently in the flashlight market.
I'm glad these videos are helpful! Thanks for the feedback!
I watched y’all’s video on the pistol light test and I went with the TLR-1 HL, nice test on the rifle lights!
HRT does have a booth at SHOT Show! (#62206) I am sure they'd love to see the aftermath... 😆 Great video as always!!
I have no problem spending on my firearms. BCGs, barrels, triggers, optics...I'll gladly pay top dollar. But this right here is why I absolutely REFUSE to spend $300+ on a flash light. I use ProTacs on all my rifles and have for years. Fantastic performance and durability that doesn't break the bank!
Great video! 👍🏾
Thanks for the feedback on what you're running, and the video!
Great stuff!
I run Modlite. Unless you're an operator in Cambodia, they all did outstanding.
They all did great. And Modlite is a good choice!
This is awesome stuff! I love my surefire turbo and my REINs. Have multiples of each
Glad you enjoyed it!
Surprised the cheaper lights did so good, but i usually use surefire g2x on my other rifles and they seem to hold up good. I might to actually consider other things now for the spares, but i love surefire.
I have an olight, 2 modlites, a streamlight and a surefire. I love them all.
My take-away from this when deciding on a WML for my AR is that all my likely contenders (Surefire Turbo, Modlite OKW, Cloud REIN 3.0) are all more than tough enough for my intended uses. So, I can focus on functionality and performance (which you covered very well in an earlier video). For me, if the REIN had a better or standardized switch, I'd just buy it. But it doesn't, so I'm going back/forth comparing total price (including switch and mount) and functionality.
You can't go wrong with the ProTac either. They are solid AF especially if you can find one on sale.
Another good showing from Olight. Ditch the mount that comes with the Javelot Tac and put it on a Magpul M-lok offset mount and it is tough as hell.
I respect Olight's build quality.
If Olight would ditch their magnetic charging they'd have real contenders. As it is, I worry about the magnets drawing metal objects against the tailcap and shorting the battery in my bag, and they can easily short with water submersion. @@WerkzHolsters
@@BoschalaOlight is adding USB-C to a bunch of their new lights. The new Warrior X4 has a USB-C port under a rotating collar, so if you have it mounted to a rifle and are using a remote tail switch, you can still charge it. It even turns on when a USB cable is plugged in.
I have 2 pistol streamlights, 1 rifle streamlight, and 2 rifle olights. They all work just like they are supposed to, functioning and charging.
Thanks for providing your experience with them!
Streamlight for the W. I’ve had my Streamlight strion for about 9 years and still going strong. Original battery as well. Never replaced anything what so ever. I use mine everyday as a mechanic.
No one noticed these guys are clones of each other? Great video as usual! No one else puts these lights through the ringer like you guys.
We enjoy putting them to the test!
love the drop tests. I've very hard with my rifles and they all get dropped (on accident). would love to see a cantilever test as I've bent or snapped a handful of them and have basically sworn off all 6061 mounts and only use the 7075 arisaka/trex arms mlok pro mounts with the surefire pro body.
Perhaps we get some steel pic rail, and weld it on to a solid steel pipe. That would certainly put the mounts to the test!
It might be redundant but I’d like to see some videos dedicated to the single CR123 or 18350 sized rifle lights.
I think we have a comparison of the 18350 versus 18650 Surefire Turbo. Which 18350 rifle lights to you think are good performers?
@@WerkzHolsters The surefire turbo as you mentioned, the Cloud Micro, Modlite OKW 18350, and the Arisaka 18350 with Malkoff head are the ones on my radar. There are likely other good options too.
Love the tortue videos. I use an owl because of a torture video I saw on that vs a scout years ago. They did drop tests and ran them over but both survived everything till their last test when they dropped a cinder block on them. Scout died on the first one I think, but the Owl they had to resort to throwing the cinder block at over 30 times to smuch the bezzel shut and the led would still turn on. Pretty extreme and unrealistic but convinced me to get one for some reason.
I should have included an OWL in these tests!
@@WerkzHolsters an OWL would have broken your impact tester 😂😂
Olight Javelot Tac!!! Now I feel better for my purchase. 😂
I sorta feel like shit for my Cloud purchase now. Knowing I sold my X Tac for Cloud makes me feel worse.
So considering the price, I would have to say the o light is the winner.
Mounting your light on the side of a can that sticks out that much further is kinda ridiculous, kinda defeats the purpose 😂
For a value priced light, tacticon is solid business
I personally run Olight brand because of their performance and price, where I live, I don't really have to worry about waterproof rating, and if my Olight dies, I can buy another and still have money left over instead of buying 1 of the more expensive brands. My first Olight, which was one of their first generation keychain lights I bought about 7-8 years ago finally gave out about a month back, after being on my main set of keys for years that I have dropped, thrown to others who can't catch, and it looks like the internal rechargeable battery still works, just not the connection to the bulb.
Im betting streamlight will do well. I dropped a protac 13 stories onto gravel after years of dropping it off a truck onto concrete and it was always still on when i retrieved it. It was the protac hlx. Im guessing the 2.0 is their updated version?
The tumbler is cool
It's my brass tumbler from way back. Been forever since I've reloaded.
The barista at starbucks called, he wants his rolled up jeans back.
He said he cant twink it up without his pants.
Thank you
Need to add in Weltool lights!!!
They have insane candela and still good flood, are fully potted, and have multiple infrared and multiple white light swappable heads for different beam patterns and uses!
So many lights so little time! But yes, we have a number of their heads and some bodies here.
Streamlight protac, rein 3 and the modlite okw seem to have performed the best in the majority of these tests
SureFire 640DFT on a MegaMouth bowfishing rig to hammer carp & gar at night…awesome..!!
I have a Battle Torch V3 on two of my rifles, which regulary goes on sale for $75. It is a fantastic value with great switches and different tailcaps included. However, it doesn't come close to the quality and innovations of Cloud Defensive's Rein 3.0. Both are great lights, but I trust Cloud with my life.
amazing content
Glad you enjoy it! I am excited that we get to have fun and give back to the firearms community with these test videos!
I'm a Surefire guy, so I'm all for them. There are already way too many people out there loving Chinese lights, I'm happy to be the exception.
I'm happy to see Surefire step up their game with the new Turbo lights.
Yep same here but they are obviously cloud groupies for sure……..
My Modlite had smashed 2 batteries on my 870 running only bird and some occasional slugs in training. My sample size of one light has an issue with heavy jolting recoil back and forth. Still love the lights but I was not shocked to see the battery smash like that.The lights themselves run like a top and are going strong. Just be mindful of those 18650's getting smashed.
olight punching above it's class
I've never faulted Olight's build quality. I would appreciate more focus on light quality, and consistency of product (e.g. lots of comments about their products failing under light use.)
Im surprised that you didn't put Olight's Odin in the lineup. I run a full sized Olight Odin GL and Im curious how it would hold up.
Olight Odin mount is pretty weak tbh. Those little screws on the scout mount bracket that are on the light body itself are really small and just not beefy enough. My first Odin (full size) had to be sent back and was replaced. This was the 1st gen Odin when it originally released in June 2020, so maybe it's been revised since then. Otherwise it's a pretty good WML.
For 20yrs i was die hard Surefire guy and switched to Streamlight especially on pistol mounted lights
But we live in a great time for Tactical lights atleast,the choices are endless and they all seem to be quality
I have to ask did you guys stop making the M7 holster and i missed something?
I went to grab one for a G45 and couldn’t find one
I respect Surefire, and I also think Streamlight does a heck of a good job at a good price point. Regarding the M7, we are putting those on pause while we work out a better attachment system. The "belt lock" doesn't live up to our expectations regarding quality. We have some ideas for a better attachment system, one that we will build in house. Stay tuned!
Excited to see what comes of it
Im looking for a OWB of the semi concealed/mid ride duty holster type
I was thinking with the bladetech or Safariland belt attachments i could get a strong side belt carry height that hides under a jacket yet still clears my plate carrier on draws
What about testing LEP lights? Ive always been curious if they are as reliable as led???
Good point. We have lab tested LEP, but we haven't destruction tested them... yet.
@@WerkzHolstersJust got an Olight LEP, it would be nice to see one destroyed. Haha.
Really like my surefire 640df turbo. Damn near indestructible
Got it too in tan for my geissele urgi upper. Happy with it
All tactical lights should be Idaho-tested from the factory.
I agree! Manufacturers should be required to post the videos!
I am damn impressed by the Olight as these are supposed to explode just by looking at them according to armchair experts.
Also impressed by the tacticon v3 as I know what they cost as opposed to some of the others that cost north of $200.00.
What's all the hate about by the bald guy for the Tacticon Battle Torch?
Arisaka gang
So many rifle lights! So little time!
We need a new death match for dual tail caps. Surefire DS cap, Unity Z-bolt, Unity GasCap, and any others (if there are any).
Someone test those goon beam lights.
The Rein 2.0 disappointed me honestly. I have it on my main rifle and won’t be replacing it because of this or anything, but disappointing regardless.
I would definitely put a Tacticon Battle Torch on a cheap gun after this.
Especially when they have them on sale for 50% off. Not a great light compared to others but by God it will get the job done if that’s all you got
Ive been using klarus lights and have been tough as nails
So... many... brands... to... test. Drowning under lights here. :)
I have a Modlite, and a couple Goonbeam's. I don't plan on buying Modlite again for a number of reasons.
Thanks for the feedback!
Have you guys tortured an Elzetta? They are pretty tough.
They get over looked all the time but they are the only light to survive my pocket carry for over a year, including all brands tested here. I run them on my rifles as well as my edc and they have never failed in anyway.
@@drunknnirish I'm about to try Arisaka with Malkoff just because I want more candela. If Elzetta had something with more throw, I don't think I would ever switch.
@@mrmcbeth I LOVE Arisaka mounts so I am sure all of the other stuff they have is great as well. I think lights suffer more from this than even rifles (as hard as that is to believe), most people on the internet chase what is cool/popular and numbers not what actually works, I mean if they did FN rifles would be way more popular.
@@drunknnirish That’s true. What mounts do you use for the Elzetta weapon lights?
@@mrmcbeth the Arisaka defense light mount for 1" lights. Its a single ring all metal mount that is super solid. I like it because its a single ring so I can run an Alpha and keep the weight down in the front of the gun.
Thrunite did well last test. Why not include their rifle light?
I have a feeling they didn’t properly set up the battery jack on the cloud lights.
Hope your class goes well!
I think the winner here is the customers that buy any of them. It is dark 50% of the time, and the crazies of the world are not afraid of the dark. Have a light, train with it (even if you have nowhere to live fire in the dark, you can dry fire in the dark) and be responsible.
After seeming that the batteries were taking a lot of damage while even inside some of the lights, I think having an extra battery or two as backup in your kit is a good move.
Excellent comments!
I’ve got over 7/8 hrs with a high quality vape 18650 outta my surefire m640df. Made it all night on, tried it twice. Amazing. But tried other batteries and none came close to the premium vape battery
@@BeardOperatorimpressive！ could you share the brand of it？
@@yungpochou720 it’s HOHM Life 60w 3077mah. I tested all my laying around 18650s and these batteries went 3/4 longer than any other batteries. It is an older model battery so they’ve probably made a better one since.
Can you test a Malkoff and hds
We need some graphs/tables.
I've been on the Streamtlight bandwagon for a loooong time (30+ years). Still am...
Good products that I don't hesitate to run or recommend. One thing that people don't notice unless they test a ton of lights is how consistent Streamlight is across the same product. When I test multiple TLR-7 / TLR-7A / TLR-7Sub lights and they all perform very close to each other, that means Streamlight has super tight quality processes in place.
Wheres the arisaka?
Finally!
Ha!
No Malkoff/arisaka lights? Shame
try vibrating while in the mister
HRT with the moisture issue was a bummer.
Yeah, I was surprised that it was the only light that let water in. And it came in during the tumbler, which only had a tiny bit of water in it. Surprising indeed...
Streamlight is releasing the HLX Pro soon... 50,000 candela and 1,000 lumens supposedly.
Yep! www.streamlight.com/products/detail/protac-rail-mount-hl-x-pro
i dont like how he says 2 dot O.
High praise to Tacticon, Olight, and Streamlight bcz they cost fraction of the price of the other lights
Excellent point!
I'm buying a Tacticon flashlight
Please get and test Goonbeams!!
We have tested them in the past. Interesting that I'm seeing more comments about Goonbeam lately...
amazing use of funds lol. shame the OWL isnt around anymore, dont think it would fit into the spud gun
The AWLS didn't fit either... until I used a bandsaw to cut off the mount!
You guys should have tried putting them in a melting furnace to see which light survived, because clearly your testing wasn’t to find the durability of the lights, it was to get views and test if the materials had breaking points. In no way we’re most of these things a light would endure, like even on the light’s worst day
Cloud owl would demolish all of those I think
That would be surprising since cloud arguably performed the worst of any here and they discontinued it
I should have included an OWL!
@@curgunner they discontinued it because of manufacturing costs thing is an absolute tank look at the construction I’ll actually bet money it will perform better tbh an all of these
Thicker tube walls than any light on market t
Goonbeam next!
Goonbeam is just rebranded convoy lights.
More expensive rebranded Convoy flashlights
@@brotherbrad1617 Convoy doesn’t make weapon lights. It’s true that he’s using some kind of streamlight knockoff housing, which is exactly why I’d like to see some durability testing on them. The performance compared to streamlight is impressive, so if the build quality is passable/comparable I think it’s a good market option.
Lots of Goonbeam comments on here... anyone else want to see testing of their lights?
@@WerkzHolsters I know I would. I haven’t seen any tests done to standard that y’all do, and I think that would help with purchasing decisions. Especially with a focus on comparing them to the streamlight HLX.
The Cloud Defensive lights were overall very disappointing for their price. I expected a lot better of them
Honestly, kinda surprised Olight shit on them. Everyone that ever tells me something about my Olight Javolet Tac will be reffered to this video.
@@dannyboy8231995 my Olight basically caught fire 🤣 no flames but the sucker smoked like a chimney for a few seconds and never came back on. I like Streamlight a lot for the price. Never had an issue. Know a lot of people with Olights though that never had an issue so idk what to even think anymore
Should have filled up the water tank all the way to not cater to the olight.
Check out the pistol light review to see what happens when magnetic charging is submerged in salt water. :)
The Rein is way too big, just like their other options. Surefire turbo having 100k candela is just plain useless for indoor use.
$300 light bag holders shaking rn
I've watched these videos from you guys for so long, and every single time, i cry myself to sleep because nobody ever brings Elzetta to the fight. Especially the models with the acrylic lenses as opposed to the newer more traditional reftector/lens combo models (HC head) ive seen some VERY impressive videos done with them in the past and own more than my fair share of elzetta flashlights. It's the only brand i trust on my 12 gauge. They simply just DONT FAIL. I wish i could show you my now retired/replaced charlie that i used as my backup hammer/daily carry for 5 years. They are the toughest flashlights made. Period. Give them a fair shake. Try and kill one. Either the alpha, bravo, charlie, or bones models. Good luck 😏.
We have an Elzetta handheld here in the shop. Stay tuned...
This video doesn't have enough views
Cloud defensive sucks ass.
Long story short I had a mch hc edc and mch duty. Every light flickered. It's a huge problem in their fb page group. 3 posts daily about their light flickering. Cloud kept sending out tail caps. That was just a bandaid to a bigger design flaw in their lights. 2 months later they would flicker again.
Funny I was on a call clearing a house with 2 other officers. I had to stop and fart arohmd with the duty light to get it to stop flickering. Had to unscrew it take the battery out and fart around to get it to not flicker anymore.
That was the last straw for me. I got all new tail caps and sold the lights off. That's whete I draw the line. Been a flashlight enthusiast for years and none of my other lights do this. Something to do with the battery not making full contact in the light there for the flicker. I believe the batteries are too short. They need to figure their crap out
lol u just have to tighten the battery jack
@dankershaw5875 there's no battery jack on a hand held cloud light. Shows how much you know lmao
well, I dont own one, lol. keep typing up novels in youtube comments that nobody cares about, though 🤣
That is shady right there. Not submerging the tali caps so one light would pass. We all know who pays their bills now.
Go read the comments on the pistol light torture test... it was viewers who pushed back on the 2 meter salt water tank test...
@@WerkzHolsters peer pressure caused you to compromise the integrity of the testing?
Yep and they are Surefire HATERS it’s so obvious….. the Surefire won the scratch test zoom in and look the clouds were all worn around edges on mounts and the hrt had scratches to body, the Surefire still looked new.
@@LovesM855A1 most of them carry X300s on their carry guns so I don’t think they are surefire haters
@@joshdennis8841 Rifle lights …. We’re talking Rifle lights ….. and obviously you don’t listen. Regardless I still enjoy this channel and I do like Cloud….. they just aren’t end all be all and def doesn’t have war time under its belt. I will also say their holsters are 🤌🏻🤌🏻….. In spite of it all they are partial to cloud period.
ModLite superiority
Modlite makes great lights but it is ran by such sh***y people.
I was about to buy a PL350 with a PLHV2 head, then I dug into why everyone was discounting their inventory and not Restocking.
And while cancel culture sucks and all, I'm not a fan of backing companies that operate like scumbags.
Can you guys not feature the guy in the flannel anymore. 1) he is obnoxious 2) his obnoxiousness led him to believe the rein 1.0 flicker when I believe your hand was over the bezel. Watching it at .25 playback speed the rein 1.0 did not flicker when he said it did. I like the big guy better
He’s fine lol, I think you’re simping a little too hard for your light.
@@curgunner never owned a rein and probably never will
@@bf4chode2so then your comment is just being a dick. Copy.
Yeah I don't think they give a shit what you think. Sorry not sorry