270 Winchester in 2021
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The 270 is awesome, flat trajectory, and less kick than a 30-06. I think the 130 grain is a sweet spot for the 270,
.270 130's, .308 150's, 30-06 180's
I still shoot 150's on the 06, but man, 130's in that .270 are wicked, best deer rifle in my opinion.
I like the 150s. I'm not shooting over 400 yards.
@@jhamelin119 ..for my part, it’s 130’s for the .270 OR a good 150 round, USUALLY 130’s; as for the .308 Win,: 168’s-175’s (ALSO for the SCAR 17 specifically:175 gr mainly). .30-06:150’s. Edited to add: the M1A really seems to like the 150’s more than anything else..
Great choice. My 270 shoots 1/2” groups with 130 Accubonds leaving the barrel a touch under 3000 FPS. Obviously this is a great mulie and antelope load. Especially antelope.
A 130 grain 270 kicks the same as a 130 grain 30-06. Same bullet weight at the same velocity equals the same recoil. But I agree that 130 grain is a great weight for the 270 as well as the 30-06. I shoot 130 grain Barnes TSX out of both for deer and pigs. And I've never noticed a difference in either recoil, trajectory or terminal performance. Both work.
The .270 has been my calibre of choice since 1963 as a 16 year old New Zealand Forestry deer culler. Now 73, I still use that calibre as my main rifle, a 1970 Carl Gustaf.
Gidday mate, i've recently started hunting in Southland i've recently just brought my first larger gun which is a weatherby 270. pretty neat to see another person form New Zealand!
As a newcomer to the 270 Winchester, a long time hunter and shooter, I ignored the 270 for 40 years, not anymore, love this cartridge.
I just bought one today
Tried a bunch from 22-250 to 300 whenever I hunt I always reach for my .270 or 7mm mag 7mm is a lot heavier but my .270 is just right never needed more than 1 shot on any great round.
Like the 270 in 2021, I reckon Ron Spomer in 2021 is also pretty legendary
Touche
270 with a 130 grain is hard to beat. I've killed many deer with mine.
270win was my 1st hunting rifle. I have several other calibers I enjoy hunting with, but when I’m going after “That Deer” I still grab my 270. I trust it more than any other caliber out there…
I just found an old 270 round in an old abandoned building that's how I found this vid wasn't thinking about 270 I wish I had a 270 rifle if I say 270 one more time I'm gonna die
You couldn't have took the words out of my mouth anymore it was my first gun as well it's my choice first choice when it comes to deer hunting and I have dropped many deer in their tracks with it and mine is very accurate even with factory ammo
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Ron, you can never talk too much about any round that's made. And, speaking of the old girls, I always preferred older babes. They may have lost some sexiness, but they still know how to make a guy happy. Long live the sweet .270 Win.
I have to speak to this. I have a 1908 or is it 03? Swedish Mauser that someone had sporterized. 24 inch barrel , original barreled action and two stage trigger, found a free drop in european walnut stock from back in the early 90's when Kimber was chopping the Swedes up for spotters and the owner just gave the stock to me. No money in it, all donations. Donated steel rings and bases. Parents had gifted me a Cabela's 6x40 Pine Ridge that I put on it in about 97. I have had Tikka's (t3 lite in 308 and recently the T3X hunter in swede) both shot extremely well , smooth , etc. Sold them both and went back to my old faithful slick action Swede. Wood and metal, wide trigger guard and forged steel floor plate with the stepped military barrel. Go Figure.
Rounds and rifles do not age anything like women (or men for that matter). A great round in 1925 is just as pretty as a eighteen year old cheerleader today as it was in 1925. A 270 in the hands of a shooter brings home the venison just as good today as it did on day one.
Thank you for doing this video. Just shows the truth about the great old 270.
I have been using a 270 for 40+years and love it for most north American game.
To paraphrase Forest Gump, The 270 and 130 grain bullets for mulies and antelope go together like peas and carrots. Great video Ron!
.270 for the win! My favorite deer rifle!
I could listen to Ron speak, all day. He has a very clear calming voice. He should be a narrator for stories on the “Calm” app
There's a calm app? Thanks Ben.
The 270 Win is very popular in South Africa, especially in the Eastern Cape. Guided hunter today on the Escarpment of Mpumalanga with 270 Win loaded with 130gr bullets and it had no problems putting a blesbok down.
The 270 Winchester Is One of The Best Cartridges I’ve Ever Used 😎😀👍🏼
My Grandfather loved this round and reloaded for it. I can see why he really liked this round. With today's modern bullets and low Bc's its even better.
You mean high BC's.
@@TexanUSMC8089 YES, BRITISH COLUMBIA!!
.270 in 130g is the ultimate rifle for antelope!
Hold on shoulder, go collect.
Well said.
My ruger m77 in 270 shooting corelocks have never let me down hunting deer.
Love my m77 in 30.06. Great little gun….bought it in 97 for $300.
Wish I had a .270 to match….LOL
Nice gun man, my first rifle was a CZ 550 lux in 270 shooting PMP Proamm 130 grain soft nose bullet. Once I learned the gun it was wonderfully accurate. Thanks for the content Ron from South Africa.
@@belliott4213 well you could buy one. Just sayin’
Cheers
The 270 is still a great caliber 🤙🏽👍🏽
Just the pep talk I needed. I’ve been shooting my 270 for deer bear and elk for 30 years.
My plane ol factory Rem 700 with a boat paddle stock out shoots every other “higher end” rifle I own. I do not reload. Maybe someday I will, but mine loves the factory federal premium 130 grain ballistic tip round. I hunt white tails and the occasional hog and it’s never let me down. It may not be sexy anymore. “Sexy” sells guns, but the 270 just kills stuff and always will.
There's a reason why the 700 is such a popular rifle. I'll never be able to outshoot mine. It's nice to have 100% confidence in your rifle so you know if you do your part it will get done.
I have a Remington 700 and it is my go to rifle. IMO the best deer gun/ caliber ever
Jack O'Connor's baby 270 Winchester!! Anything in the lower united States will die from it!!!!!!
Truly a fine rifle, a great caliber, and one of the finest bullets ever made. Great choices. A man could do worse.
When you have rifle that shoots great, kills game right, stick to it. I have a Rem 700 30-06 just like you described. For years it has been right as rain. Nothing fancy, just a work horse.
Purchased my .270 as my one-gun, do-all cartridge. Loading 110gr bullets for varmints, 140gr ballistic tips for darn near everything else. It's amazing how many people will brush aside the .270 for anything larger muleys, despite it's massive backlog of historical data.
.270 Winchester. It takes everything in North America without tearing your shoulder off.
ALL THE .30-06'S CHILDRENS ARE DEADLY!!🤷♂️😉👉
I used my 270 in africa using 140 gr accubonds for kudu, blesbok, golden wildebeest, and even roan. It’s is, in my opinion, the best all around cartridge
Love the 270...but much prefer 375 h and h in alaska!
Thanks Ron been shooting the ole 270 over 30+ years my favorite
I'm going for antelope this October and I'm shooting a 1955 Remington 721. I finally worked up a load with a 130gr Berger. I shot a 3/8" group at 100yds. Long live the 270 Winchester!
Great accuracy and nice shooting, Misfit.
I have a 1953 Remington 721 shoots the same, I want to mount a good long distance scope on it and see how far out I can hit steel with it
@@FlatEarthFighter good luck! I mounted my action in a Boyd's stock, bedded a free floated, and mounted a Vortex 4x12 on mine. I don't get to shoot long distance here. Should be good enough!
270 is still a very legit round! With the newer bullets this is def a perfect white tail caliber. Thanks for the vid
I'd take the 270 over the 6.5 any day. Great video Ron.
Nice thing about 6.5cm it's very close in performance to a larger caliber like 270 and it fits your semiautos giving you commonality so you don't have to fool around with that old glue horse 308.
@ Blueridgeboy: Re: "I'd take the 270 over the 6.5 any day."
You raise a good point: The venerable 6.5x55 "Swedish Mauser" - which has been around even longer than the 270 Winchester (it was first produced in the 1890s) - has been a popular hunting cartridge in Europe (especially Scandinavia) for a very long time, and remains so today. But it has never caught on here in the same way, and that's probably due to the long-standing success of the .270, which does everything the old Swede does, and as well or better, with the exception of having more felt-recoil. The Norwegians, Finns and Swedes use 6.5x55 on medium game and on up to moose, reindeer and caribou, but North American hunters have no need of it, since the 270 already fills that niche so well. About the only time I'd recommend a 6.5mm (.264-cal.) cartridge, is if the kick on the 270 is a bit much for the user. In such cases, one of the 6.5mm cartridges can serve well, or just get some of those reduced recoil loads for the .270 and you are back in business.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 In a country where there are no supplies and having cast 3 cannons of 6.5 x 300 wm (2 schultz larsen and 1 hamerly), it would take 270 that reloading supplies can always be obtained, at one time there were more supplies for 270 than for 7 rem magnum, today there are almost no reloading supplies. I will keep my 270, while there recharge supplies, when I run out of supplies, I will continue with 06/30, there is always that, although sometimes they cost more, anyway. With respect to creedmore, until there are not many supplies in my country and a variety of tips I will put it aside
@@gsxr1189 on paper maybe, but I don't seem to notice it in the field on game, much.
My 270 served me well in Africa, taking all the plains game I came for, from impala to kudu. Used 150 grain bullets. I did use a 375 for Cape Buffalo!
It’s amazing how Bullets evolved. Every time I hear .270 I think of 130gr bullets. My first rifle I purchased out of college in 1978 was a Remington 700 ADL in .270 with a 3x9 Redfield Widefield. Great cartridge. Thanks Ron, as always your videos are excellent.
Thanks John.
My Remington 700 ADL 270Win with a 3×9 Lynx Professional with 150gr for large game as more killing power than the 130gr and it's working better for me with the correct bullet placement for less meat damage.Smaller game like Springbok ,the 130gr is great here in Namibia
Big fan of the 270! Took my 1st deer with my 270.
Truth is we've had all the cartridges we ever actually "NEEDED" for a hundred years. But it's always fun to see new stuff and yak about the differences. And as long as guys keep it light and in good fun then no problem. Where the issue comes in, and it's usually from younger guys or those that read a lot more than they shoot, is when folks get upset that their favorite round isn't viewed by everyone else as the ultimate cartrdige ever invented. The Creedmore is merely the flavor of the month. A good round, especially for target shooting but nothing special in the hunting world. It's works but so does the .270 and a few dozen more very much like it. No cartridge is going to make a master marksman out of a guy who doesn't practice. No cartridge kills instantly on the first shot every time and no cartridge hits the target every time even when an expert is behind the trigger. There's no magic bullet so to speak just good setup and practice. The Creedmore is just another choice among many. But don't get too upset because that applies to other fanboy favorites like the .300 Blackout as well as long proven vets like the .30-06.
Dave P.. I agree with you .Our bullets have come along g ways with b entertaining tools to make and study them and understand them with ouradvances in our engineering and electronics.
Higher BC's allow them to fly farther superer sonic.
The 6.5 Creedmoor probably isn't any better or as good as our old Remington 7mm Mag...
Except the 6 5 CM doesn't kick as bad..lol
But they both shoot real FLAT for a long ways
There might not be a magic bullet...but I do remember hearing about a pristine bullet...😁
Don't forget the .224 Valkyrie
There IS a giant problem with both the 270 and 7mm Mag. They are both long action cartridges that will not fit in AR10 pattern rifles, and the .270 does not have high BC bullets for long range PRS guys. Why is that important? Because hunters probably shoot less than 200 rounds per year out of their 270s. AR10 guys and PRS guys might shoot thousands of rounds per year. Ergo, 6.5 sells more. As 6.5 sells more, other cartridges will fall by the wayside. Yeah, a 6.5 CM might not do anything for you that a .270 can't, but the opposite is also true. Why worry with antique niche cartridges that offer nothing over the ubiquitous 6.5?
@@wernervoss6357 you should see the comparison Ron did for both cartridges. 150 grain 270 vs 140 grain 6.5CM, nearly 200 ft.lbs of energy at 900 YARDS. yeah, old reliable over buzz & trendy
Your refresher course is my beginners guide and I appreciate it so keep em comin!
Thanks, will do!
When I decided to get a new rifle it was because my hunting conditions changed . I did a lot of woods hunting and never really had a need for anything that could do the job out past 100yds . So I hunted with Marlin 336 , I have one in 30-30 and one in 35 Rem, But then I bought a old farm and every time I seen a deer it was some 250 to 300yrds away . Not wanting to just bruise a deer badly I decided to get a new Rifle. So off to the local gun shop I went .This was in 1996 or 97 , The shop owner showed me something that I just fell in love with , A Marlin MR 7 in 270 Win . And I have taking a lot of deer with that rifle , It is great for coydogs too when the need arose and I have gotten quite a few of those out to 500yrds .
My .270 Win in my Remington 700 that I bought in 1983, is a deer-slaying machine. There is no school like "Old School." As my younger friends pull out theri 6.5 Creedmores and other "popular" guns at the range (with their synthetic stocks), they always gawk with respect and wonder when I pull out my venerable walnut-stocked .270 and proceed to school them on the paper targets.
I have the same 270 I inherited from my dad it has a redfield scope on it from the same 1980s.
@@rodog504 don't ever sell it, friend. You could never replace it!
@@sethwaggoner6497 My dad passed away when I was 17 so I never would. He bought me a Marlin lever action 30-30 which I love also. But Iam looking to get another bolt action gun currently just trying to figure out caliber. Bergara guns look pretty good.
@@rodog504 Ahhh! The venerable .30-30! I am blessed to have my aging father still with me, but he recently gave to me his old Winchester 94 .30-30. I cherish it more than my .270. Anti-gun people just don't understand the rich culture that gun owners possess. May your father rest in peace.
I love the.270win I glad someone with a voice has put it out there for the masses to see! Great job Ron🙏!
Thanks Lawrence.
I just bought my son a 700 adl in 270. Something a bit more than the 243 hes been using past few years after starting with a 223. After watching this maybe I should keep it myself lol!
I brought my ole gal .270 to the dance and I'll take her home EVERY time from now on!
24" barrel (700ADL) with RL23, 150 grain Sierra 2960 fps. RL17 with 130 grain bullet 3150fps. Great cartridge. I have killed more with a 270 than any other cartridge. Everything from groundhogs (woodchucks) to coyotes to deer and Pronghorn.
I got my first rifle this year and ended up with a .270 by luck more than anything but have been very happy with it and the more i learn about it the more i love it
Can't beat it I promise.
I had my pick of cartridges when I bought my first hunting rifle five years ago. Considering it’s ballistics, availability, and practicality, I went with the .270 and I still smile at the range when I put the first round through the bullseye every time :-)
RON YOUR SPOT ON!!!! MY DAD'S WINCHESTER 70 WITH GOOD LEUPOLD SCOPE , FIVE SHOTS INSIDE A QUARTER SIZE WHOLE @ 100 YRDS. MY REM AND TIKA T3 BOTH DOING THE SAME THING! 140 GRN. HOPE TO SEE YOU WHERE I WORK AT BROWNELLS SOON. MUCH RESPECT FROM 641...
Thanks Mike. Say hello to the crew at Brownells for me.
My dad shot a Winchester mdl.70 in 270 in the early 50s and he felt it was the best shooting round for hunting deer. Every deer season he always filled his tag with very accurate and ethical kills. Also, this was with iron sights.
There's guys out there that have such eagle eyes that scopes aren't needed. Paul Harrell here on CZcams is one of them.
I love my .270 remington. Farthest shot on a spanish goat was 700 yards. Goat ran about 20 yards n fell over. Loved it ever since. It was topped with a bushnell 4x12 x 45
I have two 270 rifles, one bolt and one automatic. I have Bushnell scopes on both of them also. Really like both guns , you don't hear much about Bushnell scopes in gun shops or sporting goods stores. Everybody is pushing the "latest & greatest" in scopes also !
But for the money, and clarity I'll take a Bushnell!
Many yrs ago (19710 I bought a Mannlicher-Schönauer in 270. This featured a full length stock with the butter knife bolt handle It came with a factory target shooting under 1 MOA @100 meters. And that rifle never really changed no matter the weather A truly wonderful little gun
I have had a 308 Remington pump I bought in 1959. Super accurate. Kicked like a Blue Mule. Arthritis and age caught up, muzzle brake and recoil pad, recoil like 243.
And noise like a 105mm howitzer!
That's what is so great about the 270, it can hold its own, if not out perform in some way, against almost every other cartridge. It is the very definition of a "venerable cartridge". It can perform as a varmint gun along with a 25.06 but can step up to bigger game. It can take about anything a 30.06 can with less recoil. My Elk buddies take a 270 hunting every year and it works every year they see one. My friend kills deer every year with a 30.06 and every year he complains about how much damage it does to the meat, but he doesn't step down in loads or caliber because he "wants enough gun". Give me the 270. I've never had or heard about accuracy issues with the 270. My Remington Sendero and my old Weatherby Vanguard both shoot sub-m.o.a. with factory loads at 200 yards. Clover leaf's at 100 if the shooter holds steady. I have a number of other rifles in other calibers and when we go hunting, my son grabs that old, second-hand 270 Vanguard every single time, regardless of game, because "it doesn't miss". If they built target 270 rifles with higher twist rates for higher b.c. bullets, imagine what the 270 could do...
You mean like the 6.8 western? 😉
270 winchester ackly improved with a 1-8 twist barrel and will still take standard.270 ammo
@@fedup3582 That's a short action magnum. Same caliber bullet, everything else is different. The .270 is great because it's a necked down 30.06. Be cool to have a high twist barrel put on a .270 action and handload the 6.8 Western bullets. 170 grain bullets in a .270 long action cartridge would be... a 30.06. Nevermind.
IF your friend would spend some time at the range he could take head shots , that don't damage meat , so he must be a meat hunter not a marksman !
I worked up a hand load years ago for my Sako AIII using a 130 grain AB. Got is down to 5 shots inside .65”. I have tried that same load in (4) other 270’s and they all shoot it under an inch. In my limited experience, I have found the 270 to be very accurate for my needs. I am no professional long range shooter and I try to shoot under 400 yards at game because that is the limit of my expertise but the old 270 works fantastic for me. BTW, i have a couple 6.5’s and so far, they haven’t impressed me enough to replace my 270’s.
Would you mind sharing this load data? In interested in working up a 270 load using ab bullet
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I think the 6.5 is getting popular mainly because long distance shooters lighter recoil and the slightly better BC. Though within hunting ranges I would always pick the 270. The only round that has peaked my interest outside the calibers I own is the 277 fury. Will have to see how that goes, will it disappear into obscurity or stay relavent.
I have several 270 that I love.. 260 too (not as common).. I am going to build a precision 270 in a free-floated AR platform now after watching this. Thank you for your wisdom.. I am a 40 year old "old school" gunsmith that is still (and will ever be) soaking up every bit of wisdom and knowledge I can find. Keep it coming Sir.. ballistics are my shortcomings.
Edit: I have built several 243s in AR platforms that were superb.. sub moa all day.. but the 270 has my attention.
What a beautiful project you have undertaken 👍lucky you 🙌
How'd this turn out? I've got a 20+ year old Savage .270 that I'd love to nestle in one of those Oryx stocks. Just don't want to be "putting lipstick on a pig". LOL!
My 22yo Remington 700 ADL will shoot Sub MOA all day and if I do my part even go 1/2 MOA. It had a few modifications over the years but it's still a factory action and barrel. My pet loads for our game in Northern Australia is the 130gn Nosler BT or the 150gn Nosler ABLR I get 3,075fps and 2,970fps respectively out of the 22" barrel.
I took my once in a lifetime Arizona desert bighorn sheep last November at 525 yds with a 270 WIN shooting 136gr Federal Terminal Ascent ammunition. I love the 270 Winchester.
The second 270 Winchester I bought myself was a Winchester M-70 XTR. It was around 1978. I put a fixed Leupold M-8 4x scope on it. My uncle said right off the bat when I brought it home that it was a piece of junk and the cartridge was even worst. Yeah, I sighted it in with some 130 gr Norma Loads, it shot well out of the box and even better once I had a bedding job is done and some trigger work. Five shots would fit fine under a quarter, I took that rifle to Newfoundland that fall for Woodland Caribou! I would in time have six rifles so chambered. My uncle was wrong as he was on a lot of things, I would not even go hunting with him anymore after that trip. Those Winchester M-70 XTRs were really very well-made rifles. Over the years I figured out that a 270 really needs a 24-inch barrel. In a 24 inch barrel, I have gotten 3, 200 fps with 130 gr bullets and 3/4 inch groups. If I was going to buy a new one today- I think I would go with a ULA M-24 with a 24" barrel topped with a 2.5 to 8 power Leupold on it and call it good for the rest of my big game hunting days.
That's a sweet rig you got there 👍👍👍
@@bustersmith5569 The only thing I don't like about it is that that rifle runs about a pound heavier than I like these days. Then again I can shoot it accurately.
Soon after the .270 came out, Jack O'Connor said it was the best cartridge for Western big game hunts. An awful lot of people today would agree with Jack.
My browning hells canyon speed .270 shooting 140 Sierra game changers shoots 1/2” all day!
I have a custom built 270 that was built in 1950. Great rifle, great cartridge. Does everything I need to do. 130 grain is my favorite.
Love the .270. I’ve shot it for years. Love the 6.5 mm Cr, too, so keep the innovations coming. More new stuff, more fun for shooters . . . and more stuff for Ron to educate us on. :-)
Once again Ron thank you for your input on the 270. I have been shooting my 270 since I was 16 that was 40 years ago lol. I still have her and love her. I use the 130 nosler and have yet to have a deer run Once I hit it. Anyway I did buy a 6.5 Creedmoor back before it became popular. I also like that caliber too. I also have the 270 wssm . These days because of where I hunt I use my 358 . You are truly a great person and I appreciate your educational videos so cudos to you and keep the videos rolling
Love the passion you have for the 270.
It is my got to for deer and elk the 130 gn has never let me down
Wow, great vid! My first deer rifle was a 270. That Remington 700 w Federal ammo is sub moa when I do my part. It's a great round, but I never knew just how good until I watched this video.
Ron,
Love the content. Every video walks me back through time, like a family reunion…
my dad and 3-4 other uncles and cousins on my moms side were REM 7mm men,
My grandfather was a 25-06 shooter and I had a couple of relatives that pulled the trigger on a 270.
I’m a 30 cal guy with 30-06 and 300…
Please keep the stories/education coming.
I’ve come full circle.I started out with my first rifle, a .270, back in 1989. I’ve shot .300 wby, .300 win mag, 7 mm mag, 450 marlin, and .35 whelen( which I love) I’ve picked the Ol war horse .270 back up again, and also purchased a new browning bar safari in .270… it kills just as good as I remember . Pulled it up to my number 1 spot in the gun safe….. .270 Winchester killing stuff since 1925….. 💪
Soon as you mentioned the BAR being a good gun i knew you know absolutely nothing about guns beyond saying some buzzwords. The BAR is a huge piece of crap, a rifle that feels like a shotgun that has 35lb trigger that feels like its dragging a boat anchor through sand
@@whiteyfisk9769 lol. Ok whitey. Funny how people wanna hate on someone because they have a different opinion about a particular caliber or firearm. I’ve heard of some BAR rifles being under a MOA at 100, some won’t hit a pie plate at 50 yards. I happen to have a good one .But FYI , I have 2 rifles chambered in .270 win. The BAR, which I have two head shots to it’s credit one whitetail and one axis ,and an A bolt that shoots .75 MOA. No need for BUZZ WORDS here pal. I can guarantee you I know what I’m talking about when it comes to rifles. You ever hit a man size target at 1765 yards?? I didn’t think so, you have a nice day ya hear.
@@gabemcneil5221 lol wow, you head shot a deer and shot a piece of paper at 1776 yards. You sure showed me. You ever shot a living critter at 543 yards in the mountains, with wind, and moving targets, resting on a backpack? Ive never owned, held, or heard of a good BAR. Sorry, but its a crappy rifle friend. No need to get butt blasted about truth.
@@whiteyfisk9769 man you must really hate a browning bar. I know there are crappy ones out there , my dad and brother both have the new bar hells canyon. They might shoot a 6” group at 100. Mine is a safari , and seems to be better than those . I find them handy while hunting axis deer ,because they run in herds shots are usually 100 or less. You can have fast follow up shots to get a couple on the ground for freezer meat, I do not use them for long range . 300 is about max on what I would feel comfortable with on it. I have other rifles for long range shots. You are entitled to your opinions as I am entitled to mine . Sorry we don’t see eye to eye. And yes I’ve killed my fair share of wild game .I’m not one of those inexperienced hunters who pop off on here, that’s what pi$$ed me off. You assumed something about me that you have no idea of. And has a decent trigger . I’m not gonna debate you on who has done what in their hunting career. We could trade stories all night And would probably enjoy it. I simply made a post that I had bought a new browning bar, and your hair got on fire . I am sure we have more in common than not if you are a true hunter. 👍🏼
@@gabemcneil5221 i didnt mean to rustle your panties friend. Its just every BAR ive ever shot has been dog crap. But theres guns i hold dear that people think are crap, like the Maverick 88. So i get it. Ive never hunted Axis deer, just deer, elk, and black bear. Sounds like an AR10 might be a rifle worth looking at for ya...you know, if you wanted to get with the times and give up your World War 2 technology lol...im just pulling your pudd.
Sounds like you know your rifle and its strengths and weaknesses, and thats more than most hunters can say.
Ron, one of your best videos. I appreciate how throughly to discussed/compared the two cartridges. My second quality built custom rifle was a 270 WIN with a #4 24" barrel. With minimum load development I was able to get .3 inch groups with 140 Bergers and a less than max charge of H4831.
I was 16 years old on a Junction Texas deer hunt with a 270 Remington 700 an old RedField scope with my own hand loads of IMR 4350 and 130gr. Hornady. First day shot a jack rabbit at about 250yds. Split rabbit into. Good confidence in test with untride rifle. Following 2 days killed 2 deer fell in their tracks. Both shoulder shots. Thing I did not like was much blood shot meat. 270 is a fine accurate cartridge for open country on deer and varmints , As good as Jack said it was.
Thanks Ron for ANOTHER great video. I studied for a full year before buying my "all around" North American game rifle. It boiled down to 7mm rem mag or the venerable .270. I chose .270 and have been in love with my Rem Mod 7600, 22" barrel with a 1-in-9 twist. I ONLY use 150gr Rem Core Lokt. I have made head shots on groundhog out to 450 yds because I know from years of practice where that pill is going at range. Not bragging, just saying. Latest is not always greatest.
So you're that man with one gun we're supposed to be wary of! Nice shooting.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors That and my Garand. Lol
Great shooting indeed!
Your dog is awesome.
I love 270 it's the 1st cartridge I used to go hunting with.
New subscriber here. Great video!
My dad has been hunting with a 270 for 60 years his uncle who taught him shot 270 his whole life and they've passed it on to me. I've only harvested a few deer with any other cartridge and always came home to the 270. It's nice to hear someone show it such respect.
Great video and review once again Ron. Love my Win .270 Featherweight that I’d purchased a ‘good while’ back, specifically to hold onto and pass down. It’s served me VERY well throughout the years and has never failed to live up to my expectations as a fantastic platform AND cartridge. Kudos brother..
Thanks Green! Enjoy that M70 Featherweight. Best looking factory rifle ever!
I danced around getting a .270 until I found a perfect match to my .30-06. Didnt regret it either. Both those Remingtons are twins, as well as in performance. Factory Federals at approx 0.75" @ 100m. The 06 can put 150gr. sierra handloads into 0.3". Just plain awesome.
I am in the same position as you, I use a 270 light barrel and assemble a bull rifle on 06/30 as I couldn't get bull on 270 winchester
Frankly I see no reason why people don't think a .270 can be accurate. Like any cartridge, if you build a good gun around it and load some quality ammo, I would easily expect great accuracy.
The 270 is one of most accurate cartridge s there is. Years ago at the gun club I was a member and officer of the rifle range, we had a public sight in day. My job was to help people sight in their deer rifle. The rifles chambered in 270 seem to be the most accurate, Don't know why .
You and Jay have all the reason, but there are 2 drawbacks, there are no bull barrel rifles available, especially at a cheap price, well in my country there is not quite, so I had to build a 6/30 bull barrel for informal shooting , The other problem is the tips, for it to become popular, an economic bull barrel rifle and shooting tips would have to come, as cheap as possible ... if I know I want the best and not have to pay ... the answer is easy "When 277 becomes military, some corrupt politicians will sell it for less than the cost, which exceeds any marketing" .... Phrase made by the president of the Argentine Republic Carlos Menen
@@sergioantoniolazzaro1995 hay buddy Remington made a bull barrel called a senduro in 270. Sweet shooter...gotta look to find one but thay are around. Had one for awile was the death hammer for rock chucks on windy days.
That is true. Example - the cz527 7.62x39. Mine gets .5" all day with handloads. Supposed to be an inaccurate cartridge. I have seen 270s that shoot 1/4 in. Factory guns at that.
@@sisleymichael Mike you are right on. It is a myth that it takes a bull barrel for a rifle to be accurate. The heavy barrels help in longer shot strings. Normally a slim barrel will open up groups when it gets hot but have seen the exception to that rule with a Ruger 77 in 300 Win Mag. You could fry bacon on the barrel and still shoot under 1inch 5 shot groups.
I have a Parker Hale 270 for 50 years. It has taken everything from prairie dogs to elk. Lots of Pronghorn. Love it and will pass it down to my grandson when I quit hunting at 90 years old (20 years from now).
Love my 270. I shoot 150 round soft point and it’s deadly on whitetail
Thank you for your video, I love and adore the 270 Winchester. I have my dad’s Remington M700 270 and I cherish that rifle even though I have a 30-06 for my use. The 270 will do the job.
Good idea to clear the understory, good luck you and yours sir, hopefully we all come through the droughty spell fine.
270 my favorite cartridge for deer, moose and black bear love it !!
I picked up a walmart special mossberg .270 in about 08 or 09 and have beat the snot out of that gun, and it still works. Took an elk with it in Montana at about 650 yards, and have taken many deer in NC in the 200-400 yard range. Shooting the cheapest 130 gr bullets I can get my hands on usually gets better accuracy than the spendy ballistic tipped bullets.
My moms bf bought one of those mossberg in 30-06 shoots lights out with his corelokts looking to handload some 165 swift Sirocco for him for deer/elk cartridge since he can't find his corelokts locally. Noticed some guns don't like the plastic tipped bullets hoping his likes them
@@tylarhaugan7908 I would load them up as slow as you can to begin with. The slow ones seem to group better.
@@jmyoung513 most of my loads are near or at max charges. I load for velocity after I get 1 moa groups for hunting loads. 130 for 270 does seem like sweet spot I am thinking about rebarreling my brothers 270 just so we can shoot 165 accubonds
@@jmyoung513 oddly enough old model 54 and 70 seem more accurate the hotter they are.
Ron, I love my Remington 700 Mountain Rifle in .270. It is an a- kicker and name taker, if they ever decide to make bench rest rifles and special ammo, it will be damn hard to beat comparing apples to apples. Hope to see you at a show soon.
Love the 270! I and the hunters I know here in South Africa shoot sub min with our 270 as we reload for them. Its a great cartridge!
270 Winchester is my favorite big game cartridge. My Uncle James taught me all about the 270 Winchester,GOD rest is soul.🙏
Thanks Ron for highlighting one of my favorite cartridges. It was the go to round when I was growing up in the 1950s. If I had to pick one cartridge it would be the 270 Winchester. Jack O'Connor knew his stuff! As for standard action or short action, it makes no difference to me.
I’m 14 and use a .270 to deer hunt i have dropped almost every deer ive shot with it. Awesome caliber
Just proves that many of these newer calibers are not needed. Thanks for the video
Great facts. Once again something else beats the creedmoor😆
The Winchester .270 is pretty much all a 6.5 creed moor shooter ever really needed lol
That made me laugh
270 is my favorite whitetail cartridge. Thanks for the awesome videos
You bet, Brian. Thank you.
For varmints we shoot 204, AR223, deer 308. No looking to purchase a 270 but I couldn’t help but listen to you explain the 270.
You really do an excellent job of explaining different cartridges vs. different loads vs. comparable cartridges as your doing in this video.
Thanks for taking the time to put this information together and then talk about it.
As we used to say in sales, no good deed goes unpunished, there those viewers who are going to jump up and down disagreeing with you, for me, I never fail to learn from your channel.
From Missouri
You got me to thinking about the reality of "need" in these times of ammo and reloading component shortages. I managed a retail store that sold ammunition for years and came to accept that some cartridges are more relevant than others by virtue of their availability. My list of relevant rifle cartridges: .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .243 Winchester, .308 Winchester, .270 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, 7mm Remington Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, .30-30 Winchester and .45-70 Government. For carbines you can include the .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum. Anything else is of dubious worth unless you reload and have components for the caliber in question. If you think you "need" anything else you may have to wait a very long time to restock your ammunition supply.
Thank you again Ron!! You are very intelligent with ballistics. I myself love these videos. I'm a gun nut, but the information that you have is great!! I've been trying long range shooting out of my .280 Remington and have had success. God bless and keep up the great videos!!
Thanks Evan. You should have excellent success with a 280 Rem. shooting long range.
Thanks for talking about the 270. I’ve got old FN Mauser large ring in 270 that still shoots great 👍
Good to hear
I have a 270 in a TC Venture that shoots under a half inch all day. Absolutely love it!!!! Oh yeah factory Hornaday Superformance 130gr sst. I put my reloading dies back in the box.
My favorite Deer hunting guns is the 30-30 and the 270, It just depends on where I am hunting.
I've found winchester soft point 130 grain to be the best for me, took my first 8 point with it at 175 yards dropped like a sack of taters
Like those TATERS...lol.............
Happy Saturday. Have a great weekend Amber. Great job
.270 is awesome- thanks Ron
My first rifle and still going strong. Taken more Whitetails with that .270 than I can count. 130 grain bullet is hard to beat. Thanks for bringing up the Old Girl again Ron. She's still pretty amazing in my book. Happy 4th of July Sir!!
You too, Stephen. Thanks.
I have an older Ruger M77 that has shot into 1" at 200 yards, 140gr Sierra pushed by IMR4350. With a 170gr Speer I have broke both shoulders on a 5x5 bull elk, at 200 yards. Very versatile gun.
What a beautiful dog
My .270 Win is still my favorite. Mine loves the 140g. bullets. Very accurate and always kills.
Hi Ron
Great very interesting video Mate , I have only shot a 270 once at 400 yards with 1.5 moa result I was impressed as I’m not the best shot , Steve from Australia
Greg F. Great video . I have four .270's , all remingtons - one M760 and three M700's. The most recent is a CDL - beautuful rifle and handles nicely ; with light recoil. Have taken deer and black bear with my.270's all with Remington factory 130 grain Core Lokt PSP ammunition. High sholder shots on deer drop them in their tracks. All sighted in + 3" at 100 yards and deadly to 350 / 375 yards with no holdover. Have rifles of 12 oyher calibers - - but my CDL in .270 gets the nod unless I'm hunting thickets and shots are close range ; there my forty year old Marlin 336 in . 35 Remington is my pack. Mostly it's a matter of confidence with your choice and ensuring proper shot placement . At 77 I'm more inclined to be in a shooting house overlooking a field or power line.
Tikka T3 in .270 win. Is my go to on most hunts.
I ordered one a couple months ago, hope to get it soon!
Love my .270. Very accurate and it does the job!
Ron,another great video. I always enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing 👍.
My buddy and I have been hand loading for over 20 years and he is a .270 man. Trust me, the .270 is VERY accurate if you know how to hand load properly..