I rode my R1 until I was 55 years old then sold it because my skill level wasn't as good as it was in my 20s. Nothing like the brute force power of an R1 banging thru the gears. I sure miss her and I've been getting the itch at 61 years of age to go out and buy another one even if I only park it in the living room and look at it while drinking beer on a recliner.
600 handles better and lighter around the tracks against a Liter bike.600 is more than enough for anything except drag, where the R1 will kill it. Bigger engine always wins in a straight line. I heard of people saying that there modified R6 is faster than the a stock R1, don't listen to that crap...big motor...big power.
600s handle easier but never faster lap times than a 1000... In fact, these vids on yt you see 600s passing litre bikes in the track is because the 1000cc rider is shitty, if a 1000 was ridden 100% and a 600 was ridden 100%, 1000s will always set faster lap times because they eat the straights. There is a big difference in the straight line between 1000s and 600s, but a small gap between 600s and 1000s around turns.
Sheridan Marais raced the 600cc Kawasaki and the 1000cc Kawasaki in the same year in the South African Championships a couple years back. He won both Championships that year. At Zwartkops race track outside Pretoria, which is a very tight track and well suited to the 600cc bikes, he was still faster on the 1000cc bike. Sheridan came 3rd in last years World SuperSport Championship on the Yamaha R6, so he's a very capable rider. So a racer with his skill, on both the 600cc and 1000cc bikes on the same "tight" track (not one with long straights to favor the bigger 1000cc bike) proved without a doubt that the 1000cc will be faster than a 600cc - period! However, take a good rider on the 600cc vs an average guy on a 1000cc and the results will be different with the 600cc winning. I've ridden both and find the 1000cc bike the better bike for me. Although currently I'm riding an 08' Kawasaki Z750 but I deeply regret selling my '05 Honda CBR1000RR which I bought new and sold after 40,000km ... having done track days on 5 different race tracks in South Africa, the Blade was epic!
I upgraded from a 2000 Honda CBR F4 (which I loved) to a 2003 Yamaha R1 recently and I freaking love it, I have no issue with the weight it feels just a little heavier than my CBR and the power is AMAZING....great great bike.
For my size, I would take the R1. Definitely more power than I need and will ever use, but the size works for me. Plus, add on the Toce exhaust system and you have one very awesome looking AND sounding bike!!
@@glock1inthetop45no son del mismo tamaño la r1 del 2012 al 2014 es de 830mm de altura la r6 es de 850mm sin contar que la r6 es más gorda y se dificulta más la llegada al piso para bajas estaturas
I have 2020 R6 & have just received 2022 R1 60th Anniversary Moto GP edition...Incredible machines! The R1 blew my mind!! All the best from the USA!🤩🇺🇸👍
the r6 n r1 are both amazing machines. I own a 05 rossi r6 and the thing dominates on mountain roads but with predictable power. The r1 is faster in a straight line for sure but my r6 on curves is puts a smile on my dial without the scary risk of crashing out one a bigger bike.I'm an older rider that likes to ride fast but safely. You young guys can have the short lived glory of bigger bikes n best lap times.
The R6 has such a beautiful engine sound when opening it up with a full headers & carbon fiber canister exhaust. I'd go as far has to say it is the best sounding sportbike period. 600s are like the two strokes of the sportbike arena, you just can't live without that sound.
I was going to go with the R6 but the reason I chose the R1 was the low end torque and not having to wind it up for the power like with the R6. Both are excellent bikes, though.
7:07 the exact same thing I said when getting my R6, the R1 intimidates me for some reason, I have respect for the power any sportbike has. It's what keeps me alive I guess
I started on the r6 a few years back when I was 16 and never had a problem. Never even got a speeding ticket yet! I agree that you should start on a bike you're more comfortable with, but I'm 6'4 and wanted to still get some power wheelies in :D
was hoping to pick up a used 2007 this weekend. Ive owned all the versions, except the new from 2009, and trust me they are all crazy fast. 2nd gear power wheelies are the norm! If you've never owned or ridden one - do it in this life time!
I'm a long time street superbiker & I rode a ninja 600 back in 1988. Anyway over the years I have had many bikes. And even though I am 6'1 I love the 600's for the handling & control, I can slide my R6 all over, and just feel so confident, I like going through the gears all the time to, makes it fun to ride.
I'm glad someone has the responsibility to run fast on a track, instead of the open road.. having that great power, takes maturity.. and tracks are awesome places to run..
Great video. I think I’d much prefer a 600 or 750 on the track. Messing around with almost 200 horses is a little intimidating. But the sounds of the crossplane R1 (sigh)...
Do you have the stock pipe on it? Or do you have an aftermarket? I love the sound of the new R1s, kinda reminds me of the AprillaRSV4 and the MotoGP M1. Does it ride like a Twin in city streets? Like power at low&mid range? People like Twins cause they have power at low RPMs, is the 09-13 R1 similar to that?
We had a bike shop when Yamaha first came out with these bikes back in the late 70's. People were bending them up pretty regular. They had a nasty throttle habit, when you twisted it..it was nothing then all the rpm's suddenly wound up very quickly. Older folks were buying them and wrecking left and right. We stripped one down and got it through the quarter around 13.86 or so. For what it was it was it was a quick little bike. I cannot remember the model, been too long ago. Those were fun days, we spent every dime we had running from track to track every weekend!
The main reason why I prefer the 1000 (despite being only 5 foot 7 & weighing around 140 lbs) is coz not having the capability to really push them is a buzz for me. I am still learning a couple of years after jumping up. I respect this thing & that makes me a safer rider. The litre still handles more or less as well it's just the torque that's scary (but fun at the same time). It takes a bit of getting used to but you'll soon find yourself never looking back. 600's are perfect track bikes imo
have you had anything done to your R1 m8? as ive put a power commander 5 k&n filter and de-cat pipe and its kicking out 173BHP (162bhp standard) at back wheel and the 03 R1 if my memory serves has about 145bhp standard? would of thought the gixer would of beaten it unless it was a standard gixer and yours has had some work done lol
I have a 2012 R6 and I love it! People say its shitty for road riding but I say it's fine. I have multiple friends with all sizes of the big 4 manufacturers and a few that ride Ducatis. We all agree that they are all superb works of art but all also have drawbacks. It comes down to preference. I'm 5'7" and weigh 150 so a R6 is perfect but my friend is 6'0" and weighs 230 and his CBR 929 is perfect for him. It's all what ya like. All are great bikes though and I'm just happy to have one!
A few upgrades, PC3 (looking to upgrade to a 5 before dyno tune), Full Graves titanium with ex-up delete. It's advertised 180 bhp but I'm at 4500' elevation so it won't be quite that high. My buddy's GSXR is stock except for a shorty two brothers slip on. I think it kills his low end and that's why he lacks on the street roll on. Don't worry though, he passes me up on the street because he gets way crazy and cuts up the bike lane and such. LOL
that R1 is gorgeous. red and white,nice colours. Im buying myself an R1 when im older. they are great bikes. I do like the R6's but ive got a thing for the R1.:)
Hey so I need Help! I've been wanting to get a Motorcycle and my friend has a 2001 Yamaha R1 for sale and im interested in buying it. I have little experience driving a motorcycle. So i want to know if its a good idea to get it as a first bike. Or should i take baby steps and practice in a dirtbike?
Damn one of those with a toce exhaust and it sounds bonkers... would love to get one from this model generation as my first liter bike in the far future... cause hell ill rather want to learn how to properly ride on a small bike then move to a 600 like a zx6 or r6 then get this...
The 600 class handles noticeably better but that's obvious. The difference with the litre is that the power kicks in way lower down. It's a completely different way of riding compared to the 600. Takes allot more getting used to. I prefer the litre. The extra torque makes it more bearable when riding through towns/cities and it's challenging to ride fast.
I've been hearing some new riders are riding bikes like the R1 in this video after getting their endorsement. Is that a good idea or not? Just curious...
i'm still pretty happy with my 600. i'm hoping to test ride the r1 this summer and a couple of other litre bike . but i don't think my feeling for the 600 will change . but i understand you somewhere .
i ride an 07 gixxer 600 right now with 3 years of riding experience, however, mostly road. im selling it right now and getting a new bike next year. however im torn between getting the R1 and the R6.... 600s dont hold value and i know im gonna want to move up to a 1000 eventually, but i havent mastered the 600 yet. i know that i want to make my next bike my "forever" bike, but dont want to get something too powerful if i havent mastered a 600...... any professional advice?
I rode my R1 until I was 55 years old then sold it because my skill level wasn't as good as it was in my 20s. Nothing like the brute force power of an R1 banging thru the gears. I sure miss her and I've been getting the itch at 61 years of age to go out and buy another one even if I only park it in the living room and look at it while drinking beer on a recliner.
start exercising :)
Did you get it?
Awesome man
2019, these bikes are still sexy AF!
CycleBeats damn right!
@mister clean yep 2012 r6 moto edition myself just bought
1999-2002 R6 is still sexy
When you took that helmet off I was expecting someone half your age!
Wise Fool like a girl without makeuo
sagar giri You're Nepalese right? I am too! Well by blood anyway haha
Wise Fool brother was not expected that lol, jay nepal
sagar giri Do you live in Nepal?
That's experience my brother.
Everyone here is family let’s goooooo!!!! The Yamaha sportbike squad!!! R6 R1?? Both baby!! Yamaha vs everyone !!
one of the best videos on r6 and r1 out there! THANKS!!!
who the hell has dirt at the entrance of a bike track?
@@bernardbernabe7733 This is South-Africa not Europe....
@@devalkify you get the N pass
@@maximilian1512 thanks nigga
That explains the kph instead of mph...... bye.
People who want to see riders slide their bike(s) into a wall... Better get MACO...
Excellent video, excellent test, excellent comparison, Thank you.
Thank you that was up and close great information about both bikes the R1 and R6
600 handles better and lighter around the tracks against a Liter bike.600 is more than enough for anything except drag, where the R1 will kill it. Bigger engine always wins in a straight line. I heard of people saying that there modified R6 is faster than the a stock R1, don't listen to that crap...big motor...big power.
600s handle easier but never faster lap times than a 1000...
In fact, these vids on yt you see 600s passing litre bikes in the track is because the 1000cc rider is shitty, if a 1000 was ridden 100% and a 600 was ridden 100%, 1000s will always set faster lap times because they eat the straights.
There is a big difference in the straight line between 1000s and 600s, but a small gap between 600s and 1000s around turns.
Sheridan Marais raced the 600cc Kawasaki and the 1000cc Kawasaki in the same year in the South African Championships a couple years back. He won both Championships that year. At Zwartkops race track outside Pretoria, which is a very tight track and well suited to the 600cc bikes, he was still faster on the 1000cc bike. Sheridan came 3rd in last years World SuperSport Championship on the Yamaha R6, so he's a very capable rider.
So a racer with his skill, on both the 600cc and 1000cc bikes on the same "tight" track (not one with long straights to favor the bigger 1000cc bike) proved without a doubt that the 1000cc will be faster than a 600cc - period! However, take a good rider on the 600cc vs an average guy on a 1000cc and the results will be different with the 600cc winning.
I've ridden both and find the 1000cc bike the better bike for me. Although currently I'm riding an 08' Kawasaki Z750 but I deeply regret selling my '05 Honda CBR1000RR which I bought new and sold after 40,000km ... having done track days on 5 different race tracks in South Africa, the Blade was epic!
What were the lap time differences between the R6 and the R1???
@mister clean did ask for probabilities, facts son, facts.
I upgraded from a 2000 Honda CBR F4 (which I loved) to a 2003 Yamaha R1 recently and I freaking love it, I have no issue with the weight it feels just a little heavier than my CBR and the power is AMAZING....great great bike.
Love Yamaha!❤ After many years, are still amazing!😍
For my size, I would take the R1. Definitely more power than I need and will ever use, but the size works for me. Plus, add on the Toce exhaust system and you have one very awesome looking AND sounding bike!!
ок бери р1 за 9000 евро
did you ever get an r1?
They the same size tho physically the r1 is heavier
they feel the same size tbh
@@glock1inthetop45no son del mismo tamaño la r1 del 2012 al 2014 es de 830mm de altura la r6 es de 850mm sin contar que la r6 es más gorda y se dificulta más la llegada al piso para bajas estaturas
I have 2020 R6 & have just received 2022 R1 60th Anniversary Moto GP edition...Incredible machines! The R1 blew my mind!! All the best from the USA!🤩🇺🇸👍
please do more of these!
Shogun! love your VLogs man!
Cara muito top essas R1.. essas levantada aí foi show 👏👏👏
the r6 n r1 are both amazing machines. I own a 05 rossi r6 and the thing dominates on mountain roads but with predictable power. The r1 is faster in a straight line for sure but my r6 on curves is puts a smile on my dial without the scary risk of crashing out one a bigger bike.I'm an older rider that likes to ride fast but safely. You young guys can have the short lived glory of bigger bikes n best lap times.
R6 with full exhaust system and power commander and im happy
The R6 has such a beautiful engine sound when opening it up with a full headers & carbon fiber canister exhaust. I'd go as far has to say it is the best sounding sportbike period. 600s are like the two strokes of the sportbike arena, you just can't live without that sound.
Absolutely I’ve just bought a 2004 r6 yoshimura sings up to 16,000rpm
I was going to go with the R6 but the reason I chose the R1 was the low end torque and not having to wind it up for the power like with the R6. Both are excellent bikes, though.
Like Top Gear, but for bikes
Hi
Great review, i'd take that R6 anyday
Exactly, when the 09 came out I really didn't like it, but now I absolutely love the way they look from 09 onwards.
Still in love with Love my 07 R6
all the best for your new ride bro
This is the most awesome bike I ever had, love the big bang. And btw, Red Star in SA rocks too, wish i could fly down there every year
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Pick my red&white r1 up today ! Can not wait. had cbr 600 for 2yrs
7:07 the exact same thing I said when getting my R6, the R1 intimidates me for some reason, I have respect for the power any sportbike has. It's what keeps me alive I guess
Love the aggressive angle on the swing arm of the R6.
Yes, it does, it gets pretty warm there.
R1 looks good with those after market exhausts!
Great bikes, great video 👍
I started on the r6 a few years back when I was 16 and never had a problem. Never even got a speeding ticket yet! I agree that you should start on a bike you're more comfortable with, but I'm 6'4 and wanted to still get some power wheelies in :D
Awesome! We have one of each and love our bikes equally.
was hoping to pick up a used 2007 this weekend. Ive owned all the versions, except the new from 2009, and trust me they are all crazy fast. 2nd gear power wheelies are the norm! If you've never owned or ridden one - do it in this life time!
I'm a long time street superbiker & I rode a ninja 600 back in 1988. Anyway over the years I have had many bikes. And even though I am 6'1 I love the 600's for the handling & control, I can slide my R6 all over, and just feel so confident, I like going through the gears all the time to, makes it fun to ride.
Thanks for the input bro
the exhaust at the back on not the side is bloody awesome
I REALLY like the design of the anivesary edition on the r6 and r1s this year!!!!
No brainer, both more fun than the wife!
My neighbour may disagree!
your neighbour has had ur wife then
@@seanmoore4653 OP doesn't care because he's sure even if it did happen the neighbor wasn't happy with that either..
LOL
i love the r1
That deep grumble is mind numbing. Sounds like a pissed off demon. That cross plane
Great Vid - thanks guys
so glad i bought one! have akrapovic pipes on and it makes it look so much better and sounds wicked. build number 662
Very nice video!
I saw the r1 at a set of lights on my bike with my friend, soooo nice sounded so awesome
I'm glad someone has the responsibility to run fast on a track, instead of the open road.. having that great power, takes maturity.. and tracks are awesome places to run..
R1 for the win!
great review :-)
Great video. I think I’d much prefer a 600 or 750 on the track. Messing around with almost 200 horses is a little intimidating.
But the sounds of the crossplane R1 (sigh)...
really cool video !
Do you have the stock pipe on it? Or do you have an aftermarket? I love the sound of the new R1s, kinda reminds me of the AprillaRSV4 and the MotoGP M1. Does it ride like a Twin in city streets? Like power at low&mid range?
People like Twins cause they have power at low RPMs, is the 09-13 R1 similar to that?
Please check my channel for more videos of 2012 R1. All videos are in HD
We had a bike shop when Yamaha first came out with these bikes back in the late 70's. People were bending them up pretty regular. They had a nasty throttle habit, when you twisted it..it was nothing then all the rpm's suddenly wound up very quickly. Older folks were buying them and wrecking left and right. We stripped one down and got it through the quarter around 13.86 or so. For what it was it was it was a quick little bike. I cannot remember the model, been too long ago. Those were fun days, we spent every dime we had running from track to track every weekend!
YES! That was it and RD! There were fun!
Cheers:)
Nice job, great bikes.
proud to be an Owner of both YAMAHA bikes
I LOVE MY R1 and FZ8 For street all-around use :)
Great And The engines were superb...................no doubt simply best
Best review
The main reason why I prefer the 1000 (despite being only 5 foot 7 & weighing around 140 lbs) is coz not having the capability to really push them is a buzz for me. I am still learning a couple of years after jumping up. I respect this thing & that makes me a safer rider. The litre still handles more or less as well it's just the torque that's scary (but fun at the same time). It takes a bit of getting used to but you'll soon find yourself never looking back. 600's are perfect track bikes imo
have you had anything done to your R1 m8? as ive put a power commander 5 k&n filter and de-cat pipe and its kicking out 173BHP (162bhp standard) at back wheel and the 03 R1 if my memory serves has about 145bhp standard? would of thought the gixer would of beaten it unless it was a standard gixer and yours has had some work done lol
Hello The Bike show team. Did you ever test Yamaha FJR 1300?
I keen to know what’s your opinion.
Cheers
What exhaust do you have in the R1? They sound and look just awesome!!!
we can all agree the aggressive look on the r1 is so 😍
I love my r1 2012 special edition
Who dislikes the bug eyes look of the R1? R6 all the way both looks and feel.
+nVr new R1 looks so much better
+nVr I love the bug eyes look of the R1, also love the looks of Ninja Zx-6r 2007-2008 bug eyes look :D
love the bug eyed look
i love the cyclops face on gixxers
love the sound of this bike sounds like my hemi V8
R1 is the dream. Cosmetically I'd be liking the old light setup more so.
i have this bike and i love it always ride on type A
I have a 2012 R6 and I love it! People say its shitty for road riding but I say it's fine. I have multiple friends with all sizes of the big 4 manufacturers and a few that ride Ducatis. We all agree that they are all superb works of art but all also have drawbacks. It comes down to preference. I'm 5'7" and weigh 150 so a R6 is perfect but my friend is 6'0" and weighs 230 and his CBR 929 is perfect for him. It's all what ya like. All are great bikes though and I'm just happy to have one!
i've had both the R6 and now a new R1. both are great bikes, but the R1 is more fun I think. The power is amazing. :)
2012 model looks like an alien, still a beautiful machine
This video makes me love my r6 even more :)
R1 is better
I LOVE BOTH
I like your Alpinestars suit.
That was actually one of those few bike reviews that were actually done well and enjoyable to watch
sometimes it really doesn't matter what bike you're using as long as you can handle it...but don't rush you're self on a big bike
Well done
Yes, traction control limits the ability to wheelie, but as they mentioned in the video, you can turn the traction control completely off.
I think I will always choose the R1 :)
I want them both!!!
A few upgrades, PC3 (looking to upgrade to a 5 before dyno tune), Full Graves titanium with ex-up delete. It's advertised 180 bhp but I'm at 4500' elevation so it won't be quite that high. My buddy's GSXR is stock except for a shorty two brothers slip on. I think it kills his low end and that's why he lacks on the street roll on. Don't worry though, he passes me up on the street because he gets way crazy and cuts up the bike lane and such. LOL
Love the 50th aniversary coulors got it on my yzfr125
that R1 is gorgeous. red and white,nice colours. Im buying myself an R1 when im older. they are great bikes. I do like the R6's but ive got a thing for the R1.:)
this model is looks like a real beast that is why only this model of r1 is my dream
Love it!!!!!
I am thinking of buying a 2003 R1. I do have Kawasaki ZX-11 1993. So it will be fun to feel the difference.
I like the look of R1, but it's too damn expensive :( also R6 as well!
Hey so I need Help! I've been wanting to get a Motorcycle and my friend has a 2001 Yamaha R1 for sale and im interested in buying it. I have little experience driving a motorcycle. So i want to know if its a good idea to get it as a first bike. Or should i take baby steps and practice in a dirtbike?
Damn one of those with a toce exhaust and it sounds bonkers... would love to get one from this model generation as my first liter bike in the far future... cause hell ill rather want to learn how to properly ride on a small bike then move to a 600 like a zx6 or r6 then get this...
The 600 class handles noticeably better but that's obvious. The difference with the litre is that the power kicks in way lower down. It's a completely different way of riding compared to the 600. Takes allot more getting used to.
I prefer the litre. The extra torque makes it more bearable when riding through towns/cities and it's challenging to ride fast.
Your awesome at the r6 two
Very good presentation, guys...
Greetings from Germany near the french border.😇
I've been hearing some new riders are riding bikes like the R1 in this video after getting their endorsement. Is that a good idea or not? Just curious...
I just bought this buy after getting rid of my cbr. This 2012 model is nasty. Im 6'3 and it fits great
i'm still pretty happy with my 600. i'm hoping to test ride the r1 this summer and a couple of other litre bike . but i don't think my feeling for the 600 will change . but i understand you somewhere .
i ride an 07 gixxer 600 right now with 3 years of riding experience, however, mostly road. im selling it right now and getting a new bike next year. however im torn between getting the R1 and the R6.... 600s dont hold value and i know im gonna want to move up to a 1000 eventually, but i havent mastered the 600 yet. i know that i want to make my next bike my "forever" bike, but dont want to get something too powerful if i havent mastered a 600...... any professional advice?
Do it up. I love my 09 R1 and would recommend it to anyone :)
r1 wgp series so gorgeous
I love my r6
Like your black and white suit alot!!!