Re: Carson Hocevar - the field put him 3 wide - he didn't make any move to get there. The entire low lane went to the wall to block each other and Carson held his line. Was he supposed to just go backwards at that point? Hell no, he's racing for position. The car that moved underneath Carson made it 3 wide there. Blaney's spotter should have called it out.
The question is do fans want another Nashville with 5+ overtime restarts and over half the field running out of fuel and getting wrecked or do they want the race to actually end?
No matter if ur a larson fan like me or not no 1 has ever ran down basicly the whole field like that at indy b4. Hate it wasnt clean finsh but that was god like. Larson is a legend in his own day. Legends are apmost always after death or retirement
I've seen NASCAR on MANY occasion hold off on a caution flag to get to a race finish. I'm not surprised at all at what took place at Indy. For me it was in keeping with NASCAR's m.o.
I agree with Jeff. Indy is a totally different animal. You got to know racing and strategy. You can't watch and not understand it, if you do it's boring. Jmo
Larson made that race spectacular. As for the caution, you can go back and listen to the commentary: Preece was trying to move his car, and nobody wanted to see a repeat of Nashville. All things considered, it was a good call to hold off on the caution.
Jeff...you stated that the drivers said they couldn't pass...Larson passed 20 odd cars with 20 laps to go. So obviously he took a different approach and made it work. No doubt others will study his ability to pass as he did drive that track differently and yes they were saving fuel...UNTIL Larson started passing them and he was still passing cars. splain it to me, Sir?
Or Jordan saying he wants more passing from the best drivers, while acknowledging the best drivers already had the best track position due to their qualifying and teams… so who are they passing ? 😂😂😂
I don’t think enough is made about Kyle Larson driving sprint cars at Eldora Thursday-Saturday and then winning the brickyard. I should have put a bet on Larson to win Indy as soon as he didn’t make the feature the night before. I’m sure that didn’t sit well 😮
I've watched and seen a lot of races. I'm not sure i ever heard the crowd chanting a driver's name LARSON LARSON LARSON. Are we sure Bill's kid is the most popular driver still? 😂😂😂😂
NBC sucks. I have a social event every Sunday and usually watch the races when I get home. I watched whole "recording" to miss the end. NBC take a cue from FOX who does not shift the race to another channel unless it ends two days later. Just put in a buffer. Racing is more popular than swimming, owl watching, the tiddleywinks finals, or any other bs you you cut to.
@@kylejonesUB That sucks. They should definitely have a playlist or some sort of deal with Peacock like IMSA, Indycar, and Supercross does. Same thing for FOX. Have a playlist on the Fox Sports App.
I enjoyed the race. I think they should keep it on the oval. Everyone wanted it to go back to the oval knowing how the racing would be, and they got what they wanted. The road course was good too but the oval is definitely more prestigious and should be on the schedule.
NASCAR is getting so ridiculous anymore. They pick n choose who they want to penalize, they make up/bend the rules as they go! If Denny Hamlin was leading that race at the end you know dam well nascar would have thrown that caution flag but since it was Larson/Hendrick car they waited to throw it to end the race!
When it comes to Kesalowski coming to pit road at the restart they followed the rules for that exact situation. When it comes to the white flag lap, ya it kinda seemed that they waited till he got to the white flag to throw caution. It did look like Preece was going to either keep moving and get off the track, but didnt. If they did another green white checkered i still think Larson would have one, and alot of people would have run out. Its not my favorite call but its not horrible.
I love that the debacle with the lanes causes complaints…. The double file restarts are not in the spirit of fair racing anyway. It’s better now that they can choose lanes but still worse than things used to be with single file
There was no danger until the cars would be coming off turn 2. So throwing the yellow when they get to turn 1 or the short chute is when the yellow was necessary and not before then. The only reason you do it before that point is if you're purposely trying to force another restart and that shouldn't be the goal. I wish NASCAR played it this way more often. If a car hasn't made significant contact with anything and there's no danger, just go until there would be. The restart situation doesn't need a rule change. It was fine. Them not knowing who the control car was is on them. Don't need 2 more laps of caution. That's ridiculous. Both are right about the race itself. It's much better to be on the oval for Cup (Xfinity would be better on the road course). And I am fine with Indy being more about strategy than expecting the most competitive on track action. However this Gen7 car has made everything that makes Indy and Pocono suffer way worse than ever before.
I have zero problems with the ending. I'm not a fan if multiple over time finishes where most of the guys might run out of gas. It gets boring after a while
Remember when they threw the caution flag when Blaney was 25 yards from winning the all star race, and the spin was at the beginning of the backstretch. Nascar is wildly inconsistent with cautions.
@@DerrickRGthe right car won? Yea OK…. The car with the advantage won. We didn’t get to see a real race for the win, we saw the 3rd place driver get vaulted to inside front row on a track where the inside has a huge advantage. Not to mention he jumped the restart. Blaney should have had the opportunity to start from the inside and he didn’t, plain and simple. If Larson feels good about winning in that way, I’d be surprised. I guarantee you he would be pissed off too had the roles been reversed.
Waiting for half a lap, with a car stopped in the track, until the white flag comes out to throw the caution is the WRONG call. We want to see the race finish under green. They didn’t think Preece was going to get moving…they aren’t dumb, NASCAR just thinks the fans are. Only ONE car was good enough to race, nobody else was even competitive.
@@davidreece5867yes they did make the right call. You SHOULD NOT throw the yellow until you have to. They still had over 1 mile of track before getting to Preece’s car when they threw the flag. They threw the flag at the appropriate time.
It was really pathetic how NBC treated us as fans. First doing the "news conference" before the race having fans switch back and forth, then they lost the broadcast for 30 sec to a min and then had people switch back to USA>. Screw NBC. Get a new deal and never have NASCAR on NBC ever again. Glad Indycar is going to all broadcast next year on FOX. NASCAR should do the same. or At least go to all Amazon prime streaming or SOMTHING to get this CRAP of dealing with NBC and local news and the Olympics done with. NO ONE watching a NASCAR race gave a damn about Biden dropping out. Biden should have dropped out in 2019.
What ticked me off was there is no broadcast issue with letting golf run hours over. NBC should have finished the game. The left a 3 lap finale to fkn USA. This was a great brace.
Quit bitching its no conspiracy for Hendrick to win if u have fast race cars ur gonna win races and it was a weird thing at the last restart and wouldn't have made any difference who was in the second row behind the leader that car moves forward that's the rule so stop hating someone who drive their ass off and won the race
On bigger tracks like Indy and Pocono why can't the choose be on going green lap, like road courses? They could choose on the the back stretch then go green.
The wording is clear enough, but yes, it could be made simpler so that an 8 year old could follow it. These guys are adults that should know the difference between "racing surface", "racing line", and "acceleration lane". Eric is making excuses for poor reading comprehension in his video.
@@billbenedict4664literally nobody knows those terms. Can you make those same definitions for Phoenix when everyone is racing 50 yards lower than the "racing surface"?
@@DerrickRG Ok, you clearly don't know what the word "literally" means either, so I'll give you a pass. But those terms are common knowledge for anyone that makes a career out of racing. You can make the same distinctions at Phoenix. And they could make a rule to keep you on the racing surface at Phoenix, which would change where the racing line is, but they chose not to because they like the chaos that ensues. There is no acceleration lane at Phoenix.
Larson drove thru the whole field. NASCAR has and always will throw a caution for a car sitting disabled in harms way. All the Larson haters need to shut it
Yeah and they should have have before he took the white flag like they did in Nashville everyone complains about constantly so they weren’t and they need to fix it
@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr to be fair he was rolling still moving towards pit road when they took the white flag.then he stopped as the field was going into turn 1 and they still let them race until turn 3
Just another event in which Hendricks gets an advantage for a win. Larson did come through the field, but Reddick also came through the field. So we can’t say that Larson would have won out right
(Commenting at the 22:13 mark) before any changes to horsepower were made to attempt to replicate the Xfinity race… I’d love to see nascar try roof wickers like they used to run at the super speedways. Just something that widens the air wake to allow the draft to be more effective without adding too much more downforce. There’s a balance there somewhere. Adding drag strictly to make the draft more effective but not so much that they add a ton of downforce, so in my mind something like increasing the rear spoiler size wouldn’t be an option. But maybe if wickers on the fenders and/or the roof would help the potential for more green flag passes for the lead. 🤷🏻♂️ I’d like to see it tested at least.
Except precce had sat there quite a bit by the time the leaders got to 3-4 lol, plenty of time to throw the caution, cause I bet that happens on lap 12, as soon as he spins it’s a yellow no doubt, they need to call the race the same throughout the event.
I don't know I had to watch Biden all day and didn't get to see the ending it went to the USA Network I don't have the USA Network oh I was pissed yes I wonder why NASCAR is losing all of its viewership that used to
Maybe Larson had a really fast car as well stop saying the only reason why he made it through the field was because everyone was going slow get that bs out of here
He didn't go to 1st he moved up a row, and Blaney was the leader and had control of the restart. Like it or not, that's the rule and one can argue it needs to changed but for this race, that's the rule and it was followed correctly.
there was a lot of passing..... and a lot of stratige..... know I miss spell.... tink you get tired of the rules or tired of stragity...... make it a 100 lap race...... just fuckin go boys.
NBC switching channels is getting beyond old. Nashville is way smaller than INDY. If Reddick or Hamlin was racing door to door with Larson for the finish...fans would be screaming " No Caution!" Also Blaney may need to understand it's called a "choose rule" therefore he could've chosen behind Brad. Also shout-out to Kyle Bush for blowing the race to the finish.
@@morethan4paws486 he literally said he would have chose the bottom if he knew Brad was gonna do that.. Brad screwed him. Yes the rules say the car behind him gets to move up but it still doesnt make sense. 3rd gets to pass 2nd and go to 1st? What makes sense is another caution is thrown and they choose again. Period.
Chase got upset cause he’s not the big dog at HMS any more. Jordan is right, only drivers that had fuel could race. Jeff and Jorden what a great show. Thx
The right call was made. Sorta. There where other cases for nascar calling cautions to soon and you didn't complain about those. Why? Nascar has way to many cautions these guys are in cages for crying out loud. Let them race. Safety third! Yes each situation is unique and should be judged accordingly. I feel they should have let them race but they didn't because nascar has turned into poocee spec car racing.
The fastest car won the race. I have never heard Blaney cry so much i didn’t know he was like Denny. I guess he was supposed to pull over when Brad hit the pits huh So Bwanie could take off first . If he was a race car driver he could go get him and pass him 😂😂
The rule has been the same forever. If somebody has a problem in front of you, that line moves up. That's racing in general, from dirt racing to Nascar. I'm so tired of these whiny drivers and whiny fans that don't know how things work. Learn the rules.
Larson won. If course it is controversial. Just give the guy and his team, the flowers they deserve. Why does it seem like everyone at dirty mo hates the guy? Is it because he won more races than Jr, in a single year? Or he's already 3rd in Hendrick wins category? Or is it because he's just better than their guy? We will never know, because there is no such thing as honest media. Its all opinions and everyone has a bias.
@@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr im all good. Not worked up at all. Stating facts means im mad? Facts are facts, dirty mo can't stand Larson. Won 4 races, Jr had him call in for 3 minutes and let him go. Again, another fact. Steve Letarte is the only one on this channel that gives him any credit. Another fact, by the way. Still not worked up either 😂😂😂😂
Still Surprise Watermelon Man Hasn't Won Yet This Year Hes Been Close So Many Time's & Agree @ Brickyard 400 Sunday Afternoon That Long Red Flag DelaryFor Small Multi Car Wreck With 40 To Go Was Not Need Ut.
All you dolts that said Elliott is the golden boy . All year every time a car even looked like it was gonna spin they would call a yellow but not when Larson is leading nascar is getting worse by the week .and if Elliott is a golden boy why did he get penalties last week and this week .
Does anybody remember it was nbc who made the biggest mistake in American tv sports coverage history - The Hydie Game between the Raiders and Jets in 1968. 56 years and nbc continues to show fans they don't give a crap about them. It's the prime time line up that matters and Eff everybody else.
I like Nascar racing..but I think this way stay on your race tracks darlington Charlotte Daytona..let Indy cars run Indy tracks Imsa cars are road course cars ..
Everybody in race control needs to be fired. Every week NASCAR drops the ball on these failed calls. Larson jumped the restart and never got called for it! They absolutely should have called a caution on the last lap.
Aw I guess your driver didn't win. Nascar you did the right thing, wait and see if the car will get moving. You could have had 10 restarts. No one was beating Larson anyway.
The end of that race was total BS Nascar completely controlled the outcome of that race. I hate to call it “fixed” but it’s absolutely clear to anyone paying attention that Larson is the golden child and nascar will do anything to help him
Hey Jordan, it seems like your not happy unless a "PENSKE" driver winning at indy period. Honestly nobody cares about your opinion. Your the worst podcast host.
Larson was winning regardless but another blown call by Nascar. Preece was at a complete stop and immobile well before Larson got to the start/finish line to take the white flag. Blatantly missed call to end the race.
All your discussion about whether it was good race based on what an enthusiastic race fan watches. New fans do not care about straegy. That ius a niche viewer. NASCAR has focused on TV and things for young people. THey are doing a good job at making it a good show. Dull boring strategy races are not for these fans. Who is there target audience. I know it is not me which I understand. I am an old time who attended races and bought merch. Other series appeal to me more. And every series has boring races. THey do not call them their criwn jewels. I do not watch overtimes as I care about the racing and want it to mean something. But that is me, not their tqarget audience.
I love how everyone is touting that Larson passed so many cars at the end, well duh! They were all saving fuel guys. When he got to Blaney, he couldn’t pass him, and wouldn’t have passed him if he hadn’t got the golden ticket to the inside of the front row. Blaney got screwed more than anyone else. Larson wasn’t especially fast all day so he didn’t “deserve it” any more than anyone else. Admittedly I am a Blaney fan, but Larson is my second favorite. I still think that ending sucked all the way around.
@@DerrickRGwhat’s wrong? Go back and watch the race, the broadcast said all of the front 10-15 cars were running way slower to save fuel. Blaney was definitely faster than Larson when running full out. I would have rather seen a shootout between those two with Blaney on the inside like he should have been. Larson got handed that race on a silver platter. Every car on the outside all day got the shaft on a restart, majority of the time they would fall to 3rd or worse.
@@cchap24LOL…! WHO HAS 4 WINS, 5 POLES , LEADS THE MOST LAPS, HAS THE MOST STAGE WINS , LEADS THE CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS, AND PLAYOFF POINTS…??? WELL ITS KYLE ‘’THE DIRT SLINGER’’ LARSON ! AND BY THE WAY CHAPMAN , LARSON WAS WINNING THAT RACE EVEN IF HE HAD TO MOVE BWANi …AND HAD FUEL AND TIRES TO DO IT…! 🏁🇺🇸
@@Hotrodclassicstats are great but at the end of the day, they both have the same number of Championships, and Blaney beat him straight up last year at Phoenix.
The same people who always complain about no yellow flag at the end are telling everyone to be quiet because their boy Larson won. What dumb double standards. God forbid if Tyler Reddick passed him, they'd be the first screaming.
Except precce had sat there quite a bit by the time the leaders got to 3-4 lol, plenty of time to throw the caution, cause I bet that happens on lap 12, as soon as he spins it’s a yellow no doubt, they need to call the race the same throughout the event.
Ridiculous how they switched networks at the end. I had to dvr it and missed the end
Me too.
Re: Carson Hocevar - the field put him 3 wide - he didn't make any move to get there. The entire low lane went to the wall to block each other and Carson held his line. Was he supposed to just go backwards at that point? Hell no, he's racing for position. The car that moved underneath Carson made it 3 wide there. Blaney's spotter should have called it out.
The question is do fans want another Nashville with 5+ overtime restarts and over half the field running out of fuel and getting wrecked or do they want the race to actually end?
People act like Larson didn’t drive to the front lol
Right I don’t think the 45 was going to catch him anyways even if there was a restart.
Plus I think he would’ve gotten past the 12 eventually also
No matter if ur a larson fan like me or not no 1 has ever ran down basicly the whole field like that at indy b4. Hate it wasnt clean finsh but that was god like. Larson is a legend in his own day. Legends are apmost always after death or retirement
Im a #5 fan, from 23rd to 3 on the last stint was awesome!
@@shanegalbreath631Reddick did. He followed Larson through the pack and Reddick really did it twice.
I've seen NASCAR on MANY occasion hold off on a caution flag to get to a race finish. I'm not surprised at all at what took place at Indy. For me it was in keeping with NASCAR's m.o.
It was much better than the road course. I love how Larson drove through the field to win..
I agree with Jeff. Indy is a totally different animal. You got to know racing and strategy. You can't watch and not understand it, if you do it's boring. Jmo
Larson made that race spectacular. As for the caution, you can go back and listen to the commentary: Preece was trying to move his car, and nobody wanted to see a repeat of Nashville. All things considered, it was a good call to hold off on the caution.
Jeff...you stated that the drivers said they couldn't pass...Larson passed 20 odd cars with 20 laps to go. So obviously he took a different approach and made it work. No doubt others will study his ability to pass as he did drive that track differently and yes they were saving fuel...UNTIL Larson started passing them and he was still passing cars. splain it to me, Sir?
Or Jordan saying he wants more passing from the best drivers, while acknowledging the best drivers already had the best track position due to their qualifying and teams… so who are they passing ? 😂😂😂
Seems to me that Larson showed everyone how to pass at INDY. You set them up and come off the corner faster. It was awesome and he put on a clinic.
You can't blame Hocevar for holding his line when they splt him. Really Jeff,fkn come on
I don’t think enough is made about Kyle Larson driving sprint cars at Eldora Thursday-Saturday and then winning the brickyard. I should have put a bet on Larson to win Indy as soon as he didn’t make the feature the night before. I’m sure that didn’t sit well 😮
G-W-C shouldn’t even be a thing
I've watched and seen a lot of races. I'm not sure i ever heard the crowd chanting a driver's name LARSON LARSON LARSON. Are we sure Bill's kid is the most popular driver still? 😂😂😂😂
Larson drove the Indy 500, then won the Brickyard. Locals were cheering him.
Larson doesn't have enough charisma to be the most popular driver. Not even close.
NASCAR can't have Larson be the most popular driver...... Bubba, Bubba, Bubba
@@timj3590 That's also true!
@PrimeSportsNetwork I don’t see how Larson has any less charisma than Chase.
NBC sucks. I have a social event every Sunday and usually watch the races when I get home. I watched whole "recording" to miss the end. NBC take a cue from FOX who does not shift the race to another channel unless it ends two days later. Just put in a buffer. Racing is more popular than swimming, owl watching, the tiddleywinks finals, or any other bs you you cut to.
I had same problem. Had to you tube the end of race.
I missed the end when they switched from NBC. 😢
Me too. That was Bull Sh_t by NBC just to switch to News at 6:00pm. I don't get the USA channel.
Yeah, me too. And USA/ Peacock/ NBC Sports cuts it off too. Friggin stupid.
Did you have the NBC Sports App?
@@JGR4LIFE20 All three outlets I listed go to the 3:38:## timepoint and nothing more. Zero coverage of the finish. It just ends in red flag.
@@kylejonesUB That sucks. They should definitely have a playlist or some sort of deal with Peacock like IMSA, Indycar, and Supercross does. Same thing for FOX. Have a playlist on the Fox Sports App.
I enjoyed the race. I think they should keep it on the oval. Everyone wanted it to go back to the oval knowing how the racing would be, and they got what they wanted.
The road course was good too but the oval is definitely more prestigious and should be on the schedule.
How can anyone who watched the last two laps play out think NASCAR handled that correctly?
They figured nobody was watching since they switched channels
NASCAR is getting so ridiculous anymore. They pick n choose who they want to penalize, they make up/bend the rules as they go! If Denny Hamlin was leading that race at the end you know dam well nascar would have thrown that caution flag but since it was Larson/Hendrick car they waited to throw it to end the race!
And these commercials are getting ridiculous
DVR doesnt know to switch over to USA so missed the end of the race. Peacock Replay of the race cut off at the switch over to USA as well
When it comes to Kesalowski coming to pit road at the restart they followed the rules for that exact situation. When it comes to the white flag lap, ya it kinda seemed that they waited till he got to the white flag to throw caution. It did look like Preece was going to either keep moving and get off the track, but didnt. If they did another green white checkered i still think Larson would have one, and alot of people would have run out. Its not my favorite call but its not horrible.
I love that the debacle with the lanes causes complaints…. The double file restarts are not in the spirit of fair racing anyway. It’s better now that they can choose lanes but still worse than things used to be with single file
There was no danger until the cars would be coming off turn 2. So throwing the yellow when they get to turn 1 or the short chute is when the yellow was necessary and not before then. The only reason you do it before that point is if you're purposely trying to force another restart and that shouldn't be the goal. I wish NASCAR played it this way more often. If a car hasn't made significant contact with anything and there's no danger, just go until there would be.
The restart situation doesn't need a rule change. It was fine. Them not knowing who the control car was is on them. Don't need 2 more laps of caution. That's ridiculous.
Both are right about the race itself. It's much better to be on the oval for Cup (Xfinity would be better on the road course). And I am fine with Indy being more about strategy than expecting the most competitive on track action. However this Gen7 car has made everything that makes Indy and Pocono suffer way worse than ever before.
I have zero problems with the ending. I'm not a fan if multiple over time finishes where most of the guys might run out of gas. It gets boring after a while
Good point to space Indy from Pocono.
Remember when they threw the caution flag when Blaney was 25 yards from winning the all star race, and the spin was at the beginning of the backstretch. Nascar is wildly inconsistent with cautions.
That's the AllStar race. That's all a bout the show. For this though, it was egregious but the right car won in the end anyway.
@@DerrickRGthe right car won? Yea OK…. The car with the advantage won. We didn’t get to see a real race for the win, we saw the 3rd place driver get vaulted to inside front row on a track where the inside has a huge advantage. Not to mention he jumped the restart. Blaney should have had the opportunity to start from the inside and he didn’t, plain and simple. If Larson feels good about winning in that way, I’d be surprised. I guarantee you he would be pissed off too had the roles been reversed.
Good idea about a few truck races at small tracks.
Waiting for half a lap, with a car stopped in the track, until the white flag comes out to throw the caution is the WRONG call. We want to see the race finish under green. They didn’t think Preece was going to get moving…they aren’t dumb, NASCAR just thinks the fans are. Only ONE car was good enough to race, nobody else was even competitive.
Nascar made the right call they usually always wait to see if a car will get going. I guess your upset because your driver didn't win.
@@BkBk-gy6vrthey didn’t make the right call
@@davidreece5867yes they did make the right call. You SHOULD NOT throw the yellow until you have to. They still had over 1 mile of track before getting to Preece’s car when they threw the flag. They threw the flag at the appropriate time.
It was really pathetic how NBC treated us as fans. First doing the "news conference" before the race having fans switch back and forth, then they lost the broadcast for 30 sec to a min and then had people switch back to USA>. Screw NBC. Get a new deal and never have NASCAR on NBC ever again. Glad Indycar is going to all broadcast next year on FOX. NASCAR should do the same. or At least go to all Amazon prime streaming or SOMTHING to get this CRAP of dealing with NBC and local news and the Olympics done with. NO ONE watching a NASCAR race gave a damn about Biden dropping out. Biden should have dropped out in 2019.
You should have too
@@ascomsystems2629biden is braindead and its gone on for years
The race ending caution. In real time, I would have thrown the yellow sooner, but by then, Larson still had already taken the white.
What ticked me off was there is no broadcast issue with letting golf run hours over. NBC should have finished the game. The left a 3 lap finale to fkn USA. This was a great brace.
Quit bitching its no conspiracy for Hendrick to win if u have fast race cars ur gonna win races and it was a weird thing at the last restart and wouldn't have made any difference who was in the second row behind the leader that car moves forward that's the rule so stop hating someone who drive their ass off and won the race
The next time yall do a podcast together can you please make it one screen
It was what it was. Your podcast audio is messed up too.
On bigger tracks like Indy and Pocono why can't the choose be on going green lap, like road courses? They could choose on the the back stretch then go green.
Blaney's crew cheif should have had the conversation unde the red also then. 😢😢😢😢😢
Eric from out of the groove posted the email that chase was talking about. The wording isn't clear cut!
The wording is clear enough, but yes, it could be made simpler so that an 8 year old could follow it. These guys are adults that should know the difference between "racing surface", "racing line", and "acceleration lane". Eric is making excuses for poor reading comprehension in his video.
@@billbenedict4664literally nobody knows those terms. Can you make those same definitions for Phoenix when everyone is racing 50 yards lower than the "racing surface"?
@@DerrickRG Ok, you clearly don't know what the word "literally" means either, so I'll give you a pass. But those terms are common knowledge for anyone that makes a career out of racing. You can make the same distinctions at Phoenix. And they could make a rule to keep you on the racing surface at Phoenix, which would change where the racing line is, but they chose not to because they like the chaos that ensues. There is no acceleration lane at Phoenix.
Larson drove thru the whole field. NASCAR has and always will throw a caution for a car sitting disabled in harms way. All the Larson haters need to shut it
Yeah and they should have have before he took the white flag like they did in Nashville everyone complains about constantly so they weren’t and they need to fix it
@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr to be fair he was rolling still moving towards pit road when they took the white flag.then he stopped as the field was going into turn 1 and they still let them race until turn 3
Everyone in front of him were saving gas. If they had been equal on fuel. He wouldn’t have driven through the field
No the car was stopped before the white flag, they should have thrown it then. Tyler was coming fast, he very well could have one the race!
Yea, he drove through the whole field.......that's why we should let him jump the restart and not throw a caution until he takes the white.
Just another event in which Hendricks gets an advantage for a win. Larson did come through the field, but Reddick also came through the field. So we can’t say that Larson would have won out right
(Commenting at the 22:13 mark) before any changes to horsepower were made to attempt to replicate the Xfinity race… I’d love to see nascar try roof wickers like they used to run at the super speedways. Just something that widens the air wake to allow the draft to be more effective without adding too much more downforce.
There’s a balance there somewhere. Adding drag strictly to make the draft more effective but not so much that they add a ton of downforce, so in my mind something like increasing the rear spoiler size wouldn’t be an option. But maybe if wickers on the fenders and/or the roof would help the potential for more green flag passes for the lead. 🤷🏻♂️ I’d like to see it tested at least.
Probably won't amount to much. These cars make most of their grip and down force on the bottom of the car these days.
The leaders were in turn 3 when he stopped moving. They threw the yellow when Kyle was in turn 1. They have no consistency with this its pathetic.
Larson haters stop crying
If everyone ends up on the same strategy at Richmond the whole tire choice becomes a wash..
Jeff is clearly a Hendrick fan he’s not even trying to hide it 😂
You don't hide your biases either bud.
Except precce had sat there quite a bit by the time the leaders got to 3-4 lol, plenty of time to throw the caution, cause I bet that happens on lap 12, as soon as he spins it’s a yellow no doubt, they need to call the race the same throughout the event.
I don't know I had to watch Biden all day and didn't get to see the ending it went to the USA Network I don't have the USA Network oh I was pissed yes I wonder why NASCAR is losing all of its viewership that used to
Maybe Larson had a really fast car as well stop saying the only reason why he made it through the field was because everyone was going slow get that bs out of here
Letting 3rd go to 1st over 2nd is the real issue.. not the stupid caution..😂
He didn't go to 1st he moved up a row, and Blaney was the leader and had control of the restart. Like it or not, that's the rule and one can argue it needs to changed but for this race, that's the rule and it was followed correctly.
@@BkBk-gy6vrbut Larson accelerated first
@@davidreece5867Prove it.
@@davidreece5867doesn't matter.
Those who have ears let them hear, those who have eyes let them see.
Chase’s penalty would have been thrown out in any court for being too vague
chase had the same chance as larson to drive through the field. couldn’t get up there
there was a lot of passing..... and a lot of stratige..... know I miss spell.... tink you get tired of the rules or tired of stragity...... make it a 100 lap race...... just fuckin go boys.
Still was entertaining
Four wheels over the line should be a penalty.
We are having an all time battle for the points lead and it's going to be thrown away for a free for all playoffs. It's sickening lol.
NBC switching channels is getting beyond old.
Nashville is way smaller than INDY.
If Reddick or Hamlin was racing door to door with Larson for the finish...fans would be screaming " No Caution!"
Also Blaney may need to understand it's called a "choose rule" therefore he could've chosen behind Brad.
Also shout-out to Kyle Bush for blowing the race to the finish.
if hamlin was anywhere from 1-25 carlengths off winning they would have thrown yellow when tires broke loose for the wreck
I agree his Rayns team should have told him Brad’s gas situation like Cliff Daniels was doing on the radio to Kyle.
@@morethan4paws486 he literally said he would have chose the bottom if he knew Brad was gonna do that.. Brad screwed him. Yes the rules say the car behind him gets to move up but it still doesnt make sense. 3rd gets to pass 2nd and go to 1st? What makes sense is another caution is thrown and they choose again. Period.
Chase has thrown a number of tantrums over the years. He's the most boring face of NASCAR, unless he's crying about something in the car.
I think Caitlyn Clark needs to get a ride in cup racing to help boast the attendance 🏁there was only 70 thousand at Indy 😀
I HIGHLY doubt there was that many. And NASCAR doesn’t want women racing.
@@mc-qx6ueI was there and I’d believe there was 70,000 or more for sure. Stands were packed.
Chase got upset cause he’s not the big dog at HMS any more. Jordan is right, only drivers that had fuel could race. Jeff and Jorden what a great show. Thx
Byron may have a hard time making the playoffs if he keeps calling 10th place back squirrels
Byron is locked in 🤡
Does Larson become the only driver to win the Brickyard 400 and Indy 500?
The right call was made. Sorta. There where other cases for nascar calling cautions to soon and you didn't complain about those. Why?
Nascar has way to many cautions these guys are in cages for crying out loud. Let them race. Safety third!
Yes each situation is unique and should be judged accordingly. I feel they should have let them race but they didn't because nascar has turned into poocee spec car racing.
Caution or not larson was winning that race
The fastest car won the race. I have never heard Blaney cry so much i didn’t know he was like Denny. I guess he was supposed to pull over when Brad hit the pits huh So Bwanie could take off first . If he was a race car driver he could go get him and pass him 😂😂
Easy to be the fastest when guys are in save mode lol dummy, go rewatch before posting
The rule has been the same forever. If somebody has a problem in front of you, that line moves up. That's racing in general, from dirt racing to Nascar. I'm so tired of these whiny drivers and whiny fans that don't know how things work. Learn the rules.
Larson won. If course it is controversial. Just give the guy and his team, the flowers they deserve. Why does it seem like everyone at dirty mo hates the guy? Is it because he won more races than Jr, in a single year? Or he's already 3rd in Hendrick wins category? Or is it because he's just better than their guy? We will never know, because there is no such thing as honest media. Its all opinions and everyone has a bias.
Larson deserved to race to the finish, not get the race handed to him with two to go.
That’s what media is BRO CHILL OUT DAMN
@@TrevorPhipps-vw6kr im all good. Not worked up at all. Stating facts means im mad? Facts are facts, dirty mo can't stand Larson. Won 4 races, Jr had him call in for 3 minutes and let him go. Again, another fact. Steve Letarte is the only one on this channel that gives him any credit. Another fact, by the way. Still not worked up either 😂😂😂😂
@@mc-qx6ueexactly. Now it's a Mickey Mouse win and every fan knows it . NASCAR failed miserably
@@zekecowans7792I DONT LIKE SOME DECISIONS NASCAR MAKE ETHER BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVENT WENT EV …! QUIT CRYING ALREADY AND GO WATCH INDY CARS! 😂😷😴
Still Surprise Watermelon Man Hasn't Won Yet This Year Hes Been Close So Many Time's & Agree @ Brickyard 400 Sunday Afternoon That Long Red Flag DelaryFor Small Multi Car Wreck With 40 To Go Was Not Need Ut.
Terrible call should of thrown caution I'm boycotting the next two weeks!!
Willie B is becoming to arrogant for me now
Bs...win!!... right side tires were past the line chase....gor penalized
you all are whiners complaining, damn. you can win running on the outside lane. Gordon did it to Kasey and won. Just race instead bitching
bubba run out of glass a Gotti pushed across the line
All you dolts that said Elliott is the golden boy . All year every time a car even looked like it was gonna spin they would call a yellow but not when Larson is leading nascar is getting worse by the week .and if Elliott is a golden boy why did he get penalties last week and this week .
Does anybody remember it was nbc who made the biggest mistake in American tv sports coverage history - The Hydie Game between the Raiders and Jets in 1968. 56 years and nbc continues to show fans they don't give a crap about them. It's the prime time line up that matters and Eff everybody else.
Hell, they switched to a dental infomercial for me. Guess that's more important than INDY.
once again....grab assing in the back of the pack manipulated the race.
How many times do they have to say Bubba Wallace I so sick of hearing that name I have never watched, Nascar to see him race.
They always have his picture with all the past series champions.....oh wait 😂😂😂😂😂
I like Nascar racing..but I think this way stay on your race tracks darlington Charlotte Daytona..let Indy cars run Indy tracks Imsa cars are road course cars ..
It was trash race at trash track.
Everybody in race control needs to be fired. Every week NASCAR drops the ball on these failed calls. Larson jumped the restart and never got called for it! They absolutely should have called a caution on the last lap.
Aw I guess your driver didn't win. Nascar you did the right thing, wait and see if the car will get moving. You could have had 10 restarts. No one was beating Larson anyway.
@@BkBk-gy6vrLarson should’ve been penalized for jumping the restart
The end of that race was total BS
Nascar completely controlled the outcome of that race. I hate to call it “fixed” but it’s absolutely clear to anyone paying attention that Larson is the golden child and nascar will do anything to help him
Hey Jordan, it seems like your not happy unless a "PENSKE" driver winning at indy period. Honestly nobody cares about your opinion. Your the worst podcast host.
Larson was winning regardless but another blown call by Nascar. Preece was at a complete stop and immobile well before Larson got to the start/finish line to take the white flag. Blatantly missed call to end the race.
Larson jumped the restart when Brad ran out of gas. He should’ve been penalized
@@davidreece5867wrong. The line is allowed to move up. Cope and seethe.
All your discussion about whether it was good race based on what an enthusiastic race fan watches. New fans do not care about straegy. That ius a niche viewer. NASCAR has focused on TV and things for young people. THey are doing a good job at making it a good show. Dull boring strategy races are not for these fans. Who is there target audience. I know it is not me which I understand. I am an old time who attended races and bought merch. Other series appeal to me more. And every series has boring races. THey do not call them their criwn jewels. I do not watch overtimes as I care about the racing and want it to mean something. But that is me, not their tqarget audience.
I love how everyone is touting that Larson passed so many cars at the end, well duh! They were all saving fuel guys. When he got to Blaney, he couldn’t pass him, and wouldn’t have passed him if he hadn’t got the golden ticket to the inside of the front row. Blaney got screwed more than anyone else. Larson wasn’t especially fast all day so he didn’t “deserve it” any more than anyone else. Admittedly I am a Blaney fan, but Larson is my second favorite. I still think that ending sucked all the way around.
wrong
@@DerrickRGwhat’s wrong? Go back and watch the race, the broadcast said all of the front 10-15 cars were running way slower to save fuel. Blaney was definitely faster than Larson when running full out. I would have rather seen a shootout between those two with Blaney on the inside like he should have been. Larson got handed that race on a silver platter. Every car on the outside all day got the shaft on a restart, majority of the time they would fall to 3rd or worse.
@@cchap24LOL…! WHO HAS 4 WINS, 5 POLES , LEADS THE MOST LAPS, HAS THE MOST STAGE WINS , LEADS THE CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS, AND PLAYOFF POINTS…??? WELL ITS KYLE ‘’THE DIRT SLINGER’’ LARSON ! AND BY THE WAY CHAPMAN , LARSON WAS WINNING THAT RACE EVEN IF HE HAD TO MOVE BWANi …AND HAD FUEL AND TIRES TO DO IT…! 🏁🇺🇸
@@Hotrodclassicstats are great but at the end of the day, they both have the same number of Championships, and Blaney beat him straight up last year at Phoenix.
@@Hotrodclassicalso why are you yelling? Turn the caps lock off boomer.
Nascar always make sure Hendrix win
Who did they make sure won the race when DALE JR was driving for D.E.I. ??
Did you want a little cheese with your wine?
The same people who always complain about no yellow flag at the end are telling everyone to be quiet because their boy Larson won. What dumb double standards. God forbid if Tyler Reddick passed him, they'd be the first screaming.
FIRST
So, NASCAR wanted Larson to win. So did the guys in the booth. This is getting old.
He was going to win whether nascar wanted him to or not
Diane , comments like yours is what’s getting old
@@jimbennett1519exactly. It was rigged for him . Plain to see given the Indy car paint scheme. Cheat win
So NASCAR made Brad pit from the 1 position?
@@billsmith9737 old because it's so obviously factual
Why the red flag instead of caution laps
I'm not a blading fan and I'm not a Larson fan but Larson cheated and he should forfeit the win
NASCAR fumble the ball and Larson cheated with the ball so they're both losers
Except precce had sat there quite a bit by the time the leaders got to 3-4 lol, plenty of time to throw the caution, cause I bet that happens on lap 12, as soon as he spins it’s a yellow no doubt, they need to call the race the same throughout the event.