K-pop Idol Moonbin is Gone Forever… This One Hit Me Hard
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- K-pop idol Moonbin from Astro was found passed away in house by his manager at 8:10pm on April 19, 2023. Fans worldwide are mourning his loss. Did we all miss the warning signs? What must be done with the way Korean entertainment industry expects its stars to be perfect all of the time? Please share your thoughts as I was overwhelmed in this video by the tragic loss of such a talented, young star.
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We need to start listening...not just hearing...when our artists and idols verbally tell us that they are having a tough time. Moon said it outright 11 days ago in a live...that was a sign right there. As fans, naturally, we can't do much...except offer our unconditional support and understanding. Also, the unwarranted criticism diatribe needs to stop! I can't believe this is happening again...I thought we had started becoming more accountable for protecting and being sensitive towards idols, especially, after Jonghyun. We need to do better, be better as fans...
The damn diatribe just makes it worse and see what happens....he makes us happy and he is unhappy and sad then the end result now every one is sad and in tears😥 May he have peace and rest condolences to his family and loved ones
So true very good point😢
There is so much we can do as fans, these idols are put under so much stress and the fact that some of them rather end their life as to talk to someone before it gets to this point breaks my heart! If he cried out for help 11 days ago, why didn't his record label intervene to help him? I see this in our American idols as well. Mental health is a real thing, even within their life.
The labels too need to change the most these slave contracts and aggressive training programs have to end.
But what more can we do? I'm pretty sure every time we see and hear our faves struggling with something, we'd want to be physically be there for them and tell them to just let it out...but we can't.:( We want to be decent people and help these struggling souls, but we can't be there other than sending our love and support.
We have to get past the stigma that people struggling or feeling emotional pain is weakness. It is not. This young man was in pain, and it breaks my heart that he felt this was his only option. A life gone way too soon, a family left broken, friends and colleagues feeling lost. Pain is real, and we have to figure out how to create safe spaces where people feel safe asking for help and we can provide love and support without judgement. Send condolences to his family, friends and members. RIP Moonbin
Totally agree 😢😢
100% agree with you!!
I don't know where you're from (I'm from Uruguay) but the issue is Korean society, which is like that!
I am really amazed by many things in Korean society that are very wrong!! and one of them is that... that people do not express what really happens to them for fear of criticism or of being seen as weak!
In the West we are not like that!
although there is still more to move forward but we are very open and understanding when it comes to mental health issues. And there is a lot of talk about it and people (for example celebrities) express themselves when they have a bad time and I think nobody criticizes them for that.
Korean society is wrong from the root! the pressure they put on young people in every way is absolutely horrible! With studies, for example, and the competitiveness is excessive.
Then they wonder why there are so many suicides and why nobody wants to have children and the birth rate drops drastically!!! 🤦♀️😒
I see you're a fan of bts, me too! i love bts! I'm only interested in them from Korea.
And what people don't understand is that they are also part of that circus of hiding emotions and pretending that everything is fine!
Do you think they want to go to military service where ALL the men say how bad they have it and that it was a horrible and traumatic experience??
and leave what they love to do, which is their music and the stages at a time when they are in the world top!?
Obviously they don't want to!! they must be devastated inside!! when the covid they were super sad for not being able to do concerts for years and now this!!??
and people say "they always said they're going"
They do not understand that KOREA is not Latin America or Europe and they cannot express what they really feel because they will be criticized!! they can't say "we don't want to go, we want to continue with the music" or "we are very depressed because cutting the band for years at our best is the worst"
because the Korean society would criticize them until the final day!!
@M Ine I'm a big fan of BTS and learning how hard it is being a young person in Korea.
The whole pain means weakness thing has to stop. That's like saying if you get punched in the gut and hell yeah it hurt, you can't show that pain. Pain doesn't mean you're weak. It means you feel something deep and it's not going away. The real weakness is the form of not wanting to be there for the ones who hurt. So many people don't know how to take pain and may think they're not suitable to deal with, or help others' pain and that's fine, but to have so many who just don't want to deal with it...that's weak. Showing some compassion isn't a weakness. It's human and it's high time for people to stop making the term "human being" such a disgusting thing.
This breaks my heart. No matter how much money you have or how famous you are, you can still be in pain. You can still feel alone and isolated. Especially if you have to maintain a public image. These K Pop stars are under a pressure that the rest of us can't really understand. I hope that more attention is paid to making sure these performers are taken care of both physically and mentally.
What has happened to human kindness. Every body needs support
@@michelletreadwell7271 Of course.
Hurt my idol. Not buying anything from your agency anymore.
This is so sad, I honestly wish I could help these K-pop stars who are suffering from mental health issues. It truly breakers my heart.
Moonbin has been pretty open with us Aroha about his mental struggles. So has Sanha.
Aroha has tried for years to show him how much we love and adore him, demanding Fantagio take better care of the members.
It's so sad that we lost our moon like this. He was just the most precious of souls and I hope he's finally doing better where he is.
May his next life be easier on him
@AllahcunnyWhat's wrong with you?? People like you are the problem in this society. Please report this person.
@MOONBIN DESERVED IT no he's not, but you will.
@MOONBIN DESERVED IT REALLY!!?? You went as far as making an account with this name, MOONBIN DESERVED IT??! Just to talk shi+ ? YOU S.O.B. I hope that you get it back in return and that it happens soon and you will forever feel God’s wrath, Karma from the Universe and all the darkness that will be sure to follow and bite you in the A$$!
@@evafaller6679 is this a real person? The f#%! This is the shit that needs to stop. I didn’t know Moonbin or followed him. But whenever I’d stumble on his content he had such a beautiful smile.
It’s sad that the management didn’t address these concerns. But it’s happened with all the idols and actors that are struggling with depression. The industry must be held accountable. But toxic “fans” must also take responsibility. As stated they are humans.
My heart just hurts for what Moonbin must have been going through. He was such a beautiful young man with an amazing amount of talent and charisma. He will be remembered for the joy his talent brought to us. I join those who are sending love and healing to his family and friends.
The expectations of kpop artists are ridiculous! They are not only expected to be perfect which is impossible but they aren't allowed to date or find love. We the public need to support them and call out the companies and toxic fans who criticize every little move they make. We need to normalize them being able to speak out about things that bother them! This saddens me and really scares me for other kpop idols. Please please let's support them and protect them from haters!
Maybe with a more healty private life, he would find the strenght ro overcome his struggle?? I don't know... I just know that falling in love save me from the darkness who chased me since childhood...
Agree! Well said!
Yu are so right!!! LET,S JUST LOVE❤❤
Iagree with the part about Girlfriend's and relationschips and being perfect !! They are humans with feelings to and need Love !!! # period!!!
True! But honestly Korea needs to really check Each Companies! on how they treat their idols behind too... Because AT TIMES ITS not just the toxic fans that makes this idols commit suicide... The companies that manage them is also at fault in some cases because its scary how we have no clue how they are being treated by their respective labels behind the scene! Like the Case of Omega X! if there were no evidence of abuse we wouldnt even know that they are being abused because the members looks so bright and happy everytime they are promoting or doing lives so its really scary and sad thinking that they are happy but they are totally depressed, and more importantly they should let their idols rest and give them time to relax! because thats also one of the reasons why their idols easily falls into depression like Jonghyuns case😭😭... just how many idols are we gonna lose!! I just wish our Moonbin to rest in piece and be happy in the afterlife... We love u.. Many people will never forget how amzing you are❤..
I really do hope that the culture changes. As an international kpop fan i feel like the expectation for perfection is not the same. Please date, get married, have fun, live, be happy! Liking a celebrity doesn't give me the right to control their life. Im so incredibly sad
Yes! It blows my mind how fans can think they own any star/idol. Yes, they entertain us.. but we have no right to keep them from living how they want and dating, having fun, etc... This breaks my heart.
And some will try to justify why the kpop celeb shouldn't date ,smile at anyone they don't want him to ,smoke or party. These disgusting people are now all over sm crying over moonbin. It is a perverted culture when a fan feels so entitled to an idols dating life and career and it needs to stop.
Yes, this. If you really like someone, you wish them happiness and friendship and love and family. Everything else is just pure selfishness and delusion.
You're "controlling" their "lives" by asking them to "date" or "marry." Single people can be happy, if not happier. They have time for restorative solitude. Noone ties them down
@@coffeeANDpiePleeease I give myself the right to keep celebrities or non-celebrities from "dating"
Sending prayers to his family and friends. The kpop industry and basically everyone else needs to treat idols and people in the public eye like human beings.
They need treat PEOPLE like humans. What most tend to forget is they're people, but treated like products.
Agreed. This toxic fan mentality needs to STOP!!! The Kpop industry has created this monster and need to take responsibility! Idols' and artists' mental and emotional health need to be nurtured.😢
@Christina Roussetis so true but netizens are also to blame, they should investigate these people who post or say these things to break the artists, 😢😢😢😢😢😢its so damn sad😢😢😢
Rest in peace Moonbin and blessings and peace to the family.🙏🏿 Sean, thank you for being real and showing your grief for a friend,brother, idol. All life is precious.
Thank you Seoulite for your respectful way of explaining the facts to us, and for your kind & respectful words about the deep pain people go through when they are depressed.
I am beyond disgusted with the youtubers who are putting out clickbait titles and fake photos of "Moonbin's funeral" which hasn't ever occurred yet.
I saw Astro in 2018 in La at a small theater and was ever after a Moonbin stan. He was so sweet and talented with the most beautiful eye smile in all of K-pop. I am heartbroken to think he was sad or suffering in silence. My heart goes out to his family, friends, and fans. He won’t be forgotten. Please everyone, be kind and thoughtful in your words and deeds. You never know what challenges others are facing.
I was completely disbelieving that Moonbin of Astro had taken his own life. He was such a talented and amazing human being. Although I didn't know him personally, I certainly enjoyed his sense of humor, professionalism as an entertainer, and simply a wonderful and genuine soul. My heart goes out to his family and friends worldwide because he will definitely be missed.
I felt this exact way you feel now when SHINee's Jonghyun left us....its hard to have to understand the "why", when they had real struggle. With Jonghyun he was vocal about his depression verbally, and in his music, but yet it was still not enough. Either way, I am truly so sorry and my heart goes out the Moonbin's family, friends and fans. This is another sad outcome to an amazing artist. I pray for all of them including the Astro members. I know that the Shiny Foundation, a foundation established by Jonghyun's family to help young artists and musicians struggling with their mental health, in honor of the late idol was established for this very reason. If you are struggling there are places that can help, most importantly don't try to handle all the struggle alone is most important part.
Yes. ✨💖💎💖✨
They need to stop until less on rules and over worked. You should never give up life because of money and fame. Until this stops and demand better rules, whatever they call it. More will be gone. I seen how they work these guys.
The way Korean media, and Asian media in general, attacks their celebrities has always problematic in my mind. The way the netizens are allowed to attack, criticize, belittle, and simply plain bully people via the internet is another thing that always been shocking to me. The way these kpop stars are forces to live is also a shocking thing. They are expected to almost be robots and work nonstop without complaint. They are also expected to live as though they are saints. It is so inhumane and heartbreaking. Kpop idols and other celebrities are as human as everyone else in the world. Singing, dancing, acting, etc are their JOBS, not who they are. Their treatment by the general public and their agencies is often times horrible and disgusting.
My prayers go out to Moonbin's family, friends, and bandmates. He will be missed for sure.
Mental health is becoming a critical issue everywhere especially in the Entertainment business. I believe that the KPOP industry needs to change the way they manage their trainees and their Idols. Moonbin must have been in a lot of pain😢😔. I wish he had someone with whom he could have shared his hurt and pain. ,😪😪😔. When I heard the news yesterday in New York 🗽. I almost dropped to the floor. It pains my heart that he died in pain and alone. He was only twenty-five years old. The South Korean Government needs to have a special Mental Health program for KPOP Idols because they receive the most negative remarks from Neitizens 😔.
My condolences goes to his family, ASTRO, and friends😔😪. May his soul rest in peace😪
As being a part of Aroha for Astro, it's devastating. I feel so awful for Binnie's family and friends. I wish the agency would have taken care of the members properly. Evaluations for mental health should be offered to the idols. It's so heartbreaking knowing he was suffering like this and we failed to protect him. That's how it feels right now. Like we could have done better to help him.
I am sorry Sean, for your loss. Thank you for this. Kpop is so hard and complicated. On the one hand you have this beautiful, fun, entertaining "friend," yet on the other hand these artists have given so much so young, and it's a huge pressure cooker. It is heartbreaking.
My heart is heavy after reading about Moonbin. Not speculating on the cause of death, but my son took his life at the age of 24. It was a painful day, that still seems as if it happened yesterday. I need viewers to understand how dangerous suicide is for the survivors. It's important to watch out for signs that we or a loved one have become overwhelmed by the loss. Check on the deceased friends and family daily. Limit what you say to them, the only safe comment is, "I'm sorry and I'm here for you." Listen 10 times more than you speak. Be prepared to hear unkind comments about the deceased. When this happens, take the higher ground. Forgive the deceased immediately, then work on forgiving yourself for all the, "what if," questions you'll have. Remember the good times, their good qualities and the love you shared. Allow yourself to live and finds ways to continue honoring the memory of them, never allowing them to be forgotten. Most importantly, remember that you are loved. Don't feel shame if the pain is more than you can bear, but do ask for help and keep asking until you find that help. Sean, this hurts, but we'll get through this together, so please allow those who care for you to comfort you. I'm praying for you all.
This is just so incredibly sad and tragic. I wish and hope that every Kpop and entertainment company will start to make mental health treatment a regular part of the training regimen. These young people work themselves to the bone for their fans and always seem to need to apologize for having normal human feelings. My heart breaks for his family and for him. Another precious life was taken when it didn't need to happen.
I remember seeing Nam Taehyun liove on a KPOP show in his own band after he left Winner due to mental health reason and even though he has a small band he looked really happy. I did not think people understood him properly and his support from the agency seemed weak. I hope they start chnaging their support and start a discussion . I think sometimes people dont like idols to cry or talk about issues because they are suppose to be the best and if they are struggling what hope do mere normal people have ? That is my input and take care of yourself and do what you need to heal your mind . Best wishes will be in Korea in June
I'm an AROHA & I can't believe this. It's so shocking and sudden. I'm so devastated.. I don't know how to feel. Binnie was the most down to earth, humble, and sweetest idol ever, he never held back and spoke his thoughts openly. He would share everything with us and wasnt afraid to be himself in front of the cameras. Always smiling and playing around with us and his members. Last year he asked this, "There’s something I’m curious about. Everyone has idols. Then will you want to know only the side that your idol shows or do you also want to know about the side that your idol doesn’t show?
Even if reality is different from what you expected?" Now I wonder what he had in mind and how much more he was going through..
I'm so angry at how Fantagio managed astro, this is the SECOND artist from Fantagio to pass away & they don't have many artists. I feel Fantagio took so much from these boys.. something is not right.
From the beginning ASTRO never had a break from that company & their corruption. Look into their history & you'll see. It would be too much for anyone but ASTRO held on and prevailed. He had just decided to renew & now this happens.. So many different things play into this but we'll never know the truth. Binnie, you were so strong 💜💜 We will always love and remember you. He was truly one of a kind. Words can't express how great of a person he was.
I hope companies can learn to take care of their artists & I hope artists don't feel the need to be perfect. It's okay to not be okay.
Rest in Peace our beautiful Angel, you'll forever be our shining star.
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Absolutely, I always hear from kpop idols that, oh I must try harder for their fans because they feel they aren't good enough etc, when omg, they have tremendous talent & are amazing. I'm always in disbelief & shocked that they don't believe in their self-worth & that it has gone to this extent. RIP Moonbin🕊😢 you sorely missed.
I said the same thing about a year ago. Even jinjin commented in an interview that the company sees them as robots and how tired he is. I think this may be the reason why rocky left. When the final year of their contract was coming to an end, I saw how the greed of fantagio was at an all time high and how they were constantly pushing moon bin and sanha unit. My prayers go out to the close friends and family but also to the fanbase who is in such a worldwind of emotions. Rest in power binnie ur talent and legacy would live on.
@@TheBrianCummingsOff will there be justice for any of these companies? They definitely need something in place, a lifeline or fire someone.
@@aniv1196 Not at all becuz this isn't an isolated case. Unless legislative reform in laws about overwork and proper mental health solutions isn't addressed in South Korea, we in the K-entertainment fandom would have to live with that anxiety of having some of our fav artists battle with mental health and depression which results in suicidal tendencies. Never would I hv imagined Astro, much less moon bin would hv a faith like this. It's really tragic.
Thank you for this video. I only follow BTS but saw something about this story and wanted to know more. Thank you for always providing the cultural perspective on things to as different cultures are taught to deal with things differently but despite our cultural differences at the core we are all human and all go through things. My condolences to the family of this performer and my heart goes out to all performers as at the core they are only human and are under so much pressure. Take care and please keep the videos coming. ❤🇺🇸
I'm an BTS Army to ! Nice to meet you here 💜🙏
I'm an ARMY too. Where are you here in US? If you don't mind me asking. I'm from Bay Area and an Ahjumma.
@@sarangheyeh7440 I’m ARMY also and in the Bay Area as well! (Marin) 💜💜💜
💜💜💜💜💜
@Saranghe Yeh I'm from the netherlands 🇳🇱
So much love for you and grateful for your transparency and compassion.
I have mostly been a one-group girl (BTS), though I did get to see Epik High in Portland a couple weeks ago, given both their and your connections with them. I really hope that BTS members step up to speak out and make more high-impact art about the social disease that is our collective obsession with perfection in ourselves and our public figures, especially k-idols. I can already see Namjoon taking the lead in giving words to this, or at least I’m wishfully thinking and hoping for it. I could also see Tablo and Suga rise to this level of leadership through art. Though, in many was they already wrote the songs that speak to this. But I guess it needs repeating.
@@annikaforester9403 I was thinking the same exact thing about maybe BTS using their global fame to shed a massive light on what’s going on in Korean entertainment industry! It really needs to be exposed and dealt with before more tragedies occur!🤬🤬💜💜
@@twinklingeyes58 Right? All the bulletproof bangtan metaphors are out there: we need their Anpanman superhero to show up and come to the aid of humanity here. Every K-pop artist and fan needs to take a knee to stop the (self and other-directed) violence and put Love Myself and Magic Shop on repeat
@@annikaforester9403 Yes! Absolutely! Well said!
I think it is really sad that some people have to have a certain persona and are not supposed to show any weakness. When someone is crying out for help, someone close to them should have a talk with them. People need to be reassured that they are loved, wanted, and needed. Sending prayers and so much love to his family and close friends.
My deepest condolences go out to moonbin, his family, staff and fans Even if I’m not an Astro fan, I am a human being with a heart just like each and every one of theose idols. They are human too and have feelings just as important as any one else.
Sean, I am so sorry for your loss as well. It breaks my heart to see your hurt and pain. Sending you warm hugs and love to you. Please take care cause you matter to me. 💜
Love, Soojin
I've never listened to Astro's music but my heart broke into a million pieces when I heard about his death. It goes for any idols who took their own lives because they were hurting and needed help mentally. Idols are under tremendous stress. Labels need to pay close attention to their artists and not just worry about making $$. They are humans.
Rest in peace Moonbin. Becoming a K-pop artist is a tremendous decision as, it seems, you have to quit BEING HUMAN. You can not eat, love, or even enjoy meeting someone as you become RESPONSIBLE for how your fans feel. It’s a sin that something like this has happened…again.
Can we call these ass......s fans, the way they treat their favourites stars, singers. They should be dealt with lawfully and held responsible.
ALL of these idols (boy and idols and girl group idols) made the conscious choice to sign that contract. They CHOSE to not date or have much of a personal life for the duration of the contract (usually 7 years, which it appears Moonbin must have recently RESIGNED), in exchange for possible fame, fourtune, and adoring fans. Moonbin could have become an actor and dated who he wanted. He could have become a regular Kpop artist (NOT an Idol, which hangs on something called The Illusion of Availability to fuel their popularity). But he chose to give up some things in exchange for being an idol. Idols make money from merch and concert tickets. Would they be popular and sell merch if they didn't appear single? Sure. Would they be as wealthy and as popular as they are? Maybe... IF they wrote all of their own music, sang live without backing tracks, and were full artists, without being also idols. You have to remember that the popularity boy bands and girl groups, which translates into money for them from merchandise and concert tickets, weather you want to admit it or not, weather you want to see it or not, HIGHLY hangs on this "illusion of availability", as well as another thing called "the parasicial relationship" (think of every vlive or Weverse live you've seen where it feels like the idol is taking directly to you). This is by design. There are great kpop artists who are not idols who are extremely talented (I'm thinking of singer and songwriter Sondia, who appears on many Kdrama OSTs) who make good money on their talent alone. But if they want to make more money easier and faster, if they've got the looks, becoming an idol could be a way to achieve that. You can deny it, but it doesn't make it any less true. Think of EVERY western boy band and girl solo artist who was like an idol (like Brittany Spears). In the height of their popularity, how many of those boy bands like One Direction or Backstreet Boys, etc. had girlfriends/boyfriends? How many were out of the closet? Rickey Martin banked on the illusion of availability in the height of his career, only coming out of the closet when his popularity started to wane, as did Lance Bass. They, like all idols, understood that apppearing available (and straight) highly translated to a dollar amount. None of those groups are known to have not been allowed to date, yet none of them did date... perhaps it was in their contract. Perhaps they were just told or advised not to. Most only began to date or come out or whatever, after it was clear that the height of their popularity was on the decline. Lots of rock groups date, but they aren't idols and they don't use the illusion of availability (usually - at least not after about their 20's) as a means to gain fans and gain money from fans. I imagine that you will only hear of BTS or other groups dating once they've decided to retire as a group (30's or beyond), and still even then, it depends on how popular they want to stay. Of course they will still have fans, but girls will take their posters down and stop crashing the Weverse site fighting to buy their photo books if they're married with kids or in a serious relationship. That's the fact of Idols and the illusion of availability. Moonbin's contract must have been up this year because Rocky didn't renew his. Obviously Moonbin did, so he choice to keep going with this idol popularity and playing by the rules of the game. So the idea that he was depressed because he couldn't date (openly) or couldn't have a free and easy, social life going to bars and clubs, is unlikely.. Abd also, one reason why companies have restrictions on dating and going to bars and clubs is to minimize scandals. Where there is drinking and crowds (and sex) there's brawls, trouble, and babies. That's trouble for the company and the image of the group. No one is forcing these guys to choose to be idols. Moonbin has acted in dramas. He can sing and dance and rap. He could have done a number of things that weren't be in an idol group. It was something he chose, and if he wanted to in-choose it, he could have done that! Rocky did. He couldn't have chose to give up that fame and fortune and go his own way on his own talent. He didn't choose that, so I don't think that the industry or Kpop can be blamed any more than his personal mental illness. No one else in Astro killed themselves, nor Shinee, nor F(x), nor Kara, nor any other group, so the individual and how they personally deal with issues, stress, depression, and mental illness, is a really big factor in weather or not tbwy are able to push through problems and come out on the other side or not.
@@X3000Chan Actually his mother chose his career. While he excelled in every aspect and told himself he enjoyed it, the pressure to succeed and be perfect was too much for him. And these kids are signing as kids and most of them dont reveal the tremendous psychological abuse they undergo every week about weight, performance or their appearance. They end up with such low self-esteem. Psychological care in Korea is very very outdated compared to the west. There are still Confucian values that underlying treatment and put responsibility on individuals, especially males. This young man worked so hard and was crying for help. How dare anyone insinuate he bore any personal responsibility for his condition. RIP Moonbin. You were too good for this world full of jerks.
There's no cure for depression, no amount of medicines, it comes and go without notice, it hurts deeply at times without reason.
It's hard.
We lost again someone precious, he will be miss but forever be in our hearts, his memories will linger on.
Thank you Moon Bin, you have brought happiness to a lot of us.
Behind the smiles, laughter you showed, was something hurting deep inside.
You are now at peace, be among the stars that's shines light on a dark night.
I hope that this will be a wake up call to a lot of people.
Our KPOP IDOLS ARE HUMAN, they gives us so much but yet they are quickly judged.
Thank you, Sean for this video. Because I don't understand Korean and so much of my Kpop content is in Korean with no subtitles, I always have a hard time getting information about my favorites, and Moonbin was in my top 10. When I heard the news, I couldn't wrap my mind around it and it seemed like it came out of left field. My heart breaks for his family (especially his sister), his band members, and fellow AROHA. Thank you for explaining what may have been going on behind the scenes. 😢
Thank you for being brave and showing your true emotions!! It is a very sad situation when a young person feels they have no other choice than that! As a society, we need to quit pretending mental health issues do not exist! ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A CELEBRITY!!! We have absolutely no idea what pressure they are under and what they have to deal with on a daily basis!! ❤😢
Sean, hope that you're taking good care of your mental and physical health.
Thank you so much for your great channel and many interesting contents!♥
I feel that when a Kpop idol or even any celebrity got famous and popular, people would have higher expectation/demand of them to perform and do well. This would put great pressure and stress on the artists on top of their tight work schedules, various commitments, etc. This pressure, stress, worries would snowball over the months and years till the person broke down mentally and physically. RIP Moonbin 🙏🏼
Thank you for sharing this grief with us arohas. Hearing someone struggling through this kind of pain is just heartbreaking, all the more when you truly care about the person who is going through such ordeal… we should all practice kindness, be more supportive of one another no matter what. As an Aroha this news is devastating, we mourn the loss of our precious Moonbin and we can’t even start to imagine how much it hurts to the rest of Astro Members and his immediate family. Prayers offered for Moonbin, may he rest in peace and prayers to all his loved ones, Astro Members and to all of us arohas who love him in this difficult time.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
We cannot expect everybody to be strong and always in control. People should have the right to be weak, brittle, sensitive, exhausted, unwell, unable to keep up with schedules etc. - and the right and possibility to get much needed rest, support, and professional help without being judged or having to apologize. Poor Moonbin, the boy who could have lived on :(
What's wrong is There's to many HATERS in this world...We need to have more LOVE,
This breaks my heart I'm so sorry for your loss
I suffer from depression so I know what there going through..it's really hard sometimes..
Thank you for this update
God Bless you guys
Thank you for your heartfelt explanation of the very sad news regarding Moonbin's sudden passing. It's been a shock to the KPOP loving world. It's understandably been hard time for you as well..😢
This is just very sad how could those around him not see he needed help so bad such a great talented young man
It's easy to say that now of seeing the man crying out for help of only after the fact of the poor young man. I honestly think it's hurtful for anyone to say, directly and indirectly, to express "Why no one close to him didn't see he needed help", to the very people who knew him the best. It just brings more guilt to those people, making them feel guilty for something that more than likely, they honestly didn't know about. How they're going to reflect a lot of what ifs over and over to the point they'll feel like they did something wrong. It's just another contributing mental crisis and therefore, the cycle of people taking their own lives continues. I also see fans say about how they feel guilty themselves for not seeing it as well and wish this or that. When I find that those fans are just harming themselves, mentally, for something they and for anyone to blame themselves for not seeing it. Sometimes the signs aren't present at all and it really glosses over our heads many times. And how it's just as hard for the person who is suffering in silent, don't speak or have tried to call out for help, but how it's so hard to find the right words to say they need help. It's more than just "I need help", it's something else entirely and even I can't explain it in words, but how it's a far deeper feeling; not sadness, but something else entirely. At the end of the day though, the poor parents lost their child and a sister who lost her brother.
You have no idea who knew what and or if he was getting treatment. It isn't a kpop idol thing, this is what depression is, many smiles hiding hurt and suffering
Remember, his band members and friends are only in their 20’s. How could they know what to say or how to listen. That is putting too much on them. I’m sure Shinee knew of Jonghyun’ s struggles, but how would they possibly know that he had reached his limit? Same with Astro and Moonbin. And these young people are separated from their families, and obtain the wealth to move into their own home, so , again, they lose contact with a support group that they had living together.
K-pop agencies need to go easier on these young people and also have mental health experts assessing them frequently to see how they are coping. It should be fun for these young people and not some boot camp!😢😢
@@janvdb9258 Yes to this.
So sorry for your loss. 😢 Do share how you feel with those close to you. You acknowledge Moonbin’s passing has hit you hard and I am certain others can relate. Seek them out.
Change does not seem to be happening quickly which is devastating. One’s head is attached to one’s body so if it is hurting it needs to be treated. There is no shame in that. The irony is that the public has been given a peep as to what the demands of the entertainment industry are, and if if anyone deserves psychological support it is entertainers. Hopefully this will be the final tragedy of this kind because entertainment companies finally understand they have been shirking their responsibilities. When you KNOW a better, you need to DO better!
My thoughts are with you at this sad and difficult time. You are heard. A hug for you from across the ocean.😊
You're right. These stars looks glossy. And you will never see a hint that they are suffering inside, especially if you do not see and mind the red flags. When Jonghyun died years ago, it was hard. Because you saw him enjoying his life and his popularity. But deep inside he was troubled. I see the same with Moonbin. I'm not a fan, but I sometimes watch their videos. And he was very talented. I have a heart for KPop artists in general, so I'm kinda feel sad whenever this happens. My heart goes to the family and ASTRO, his members. This is a very difficult time for them. I hope they find courage and peace in the middle of this tragedy. May he rest in peace.
Or theybare not allowed to show It !!!
@@lijntjeveeningen1727 Yes. That, too.
I'm from France, french Aroha, and would like to thank you for sharing your point of view and your authentic feelings with us. (I just discover your show, bravo). Thank you
With a broken heart we say goodbye to Moonbin but we are not gonna bury his music. The records, his stage presentations are what is left to us. Lets cherish and stream his music to honor his music and his career. He was so devoted and commited to his career. It is so sad that he left so suddenly at the peak of his life.
I'm so sorry Sean, I know exactly how u feeling. This is really heartbreaking and reminded me of Jonghyun's passing in 2017😢. Kpop industry is so difficult to be in. We as fans and the companies must stop expecting idols to be perfect Godlike beings. They are people like the rest of us, who have feelings and who also make mistakes too. Unfortunately the industry put idols in this box where they have to only cater to the fans needs and expectation no matter what. This can overwhelm anybody and you lose sight of who you are as a person. Therefore we as fans need to do better for the artists. I can only hope and pray that more can be done so that we don't lose more amazing young artists like this. My thoughts and prayers go out to Moon Bin's members, family, friends and AROHA fandom😔MHDSRIP.
I pray that you are happy and can rest easy now wherever you are 🥀
I still can't believe what happened. I didn't expect this. Moonbin always smiled and it took me several hours to process everything. As Army there was a time where I was very worried for Taehyung. The bubbly squishy Tae changed at some point. He suddenly became very silent and looked sad. Not for 1-2 days but months. Many fans were in denial and said he's changing because he's growing up... They said we shouldn't overreact. But later he revealed that he had depressed periods and wasn't happy. He said he felt to want to be loved. I think his band mates saved him and I'm glad they lived together. He talked about it after healing. Suga openly talked about his struggles with depression and mental health too. I pray for every Idol that needs help to seek help. I'm disgusted about all the rules our Idols have. Idols are humans too and have feelings. They should be allowed to date in public and do whatever they want. My deepest condolences to Moonbin's family, astro members, friends and Arohas. May he rest in peace 💔🥺🕯️🕊️
Thank you so much. As a senior citizen, a huge BTS fan, I appreciate your words. As a mom and granny I was startled and afraid when Junkook was posting rambling dark VLives. He spoke about his life and a lot sounded like he was in depression. I kept praying that those close to him were listening. And that he had people who would make sure he got help. There have been too many of these sad events. How many of these tragic events need to happen before the culture recognizes the need to rethink the attitude towards mental health? The people struggling and the people that love them deserve better.
Not only.Jungkook also TaeTae ! And now RM are showing signs of depression ! But we Army cant do anything as to support them and show them Innocent Love always !!
I am also a senior BTS fan. And a retired clinical therapist. I was concerned about JK as well after his Weverse sessions. I am glad to see he seems to be in better spirits but BTS members have experienced major changes . I’m hoping that the military experience will give them a sense of normalcy away from social media and their agents. It will be hard but the expectations are from the military trainers and not at the whim of social media. I pray that they will be safe while in the military and if having emotional moments (which I imagine happens to all inductees at some point) help will be provided. My deepest condolences to Moonbins family and friends. We are losing so many of our young people. As a global society we need to find out why. Please take care of your mental health as well as your physical health. Peace to you all.
I send my deepest condolences to the family, friends and fans of Moonbin. May he rest in peace. 🕊⭐️
Thank you for coming on live. RIP Moonbin.
He’s was BEAUTIFUL 🙏🌟😢..Sean I’m crying too.. loss for words.. mental health is real & we all need to step up & help someone who is reaching out💜🙋🏻♀️🇺🇸😢
Thank you so much for making this video, as an international Kpop fan, this really adds more perspective to my understanding of Kpop stars and the industry. To Moonbin, thank you and I am sorry for everything you have gone through, may you rest in love and in peace. My condolences to his family, friends and fans
I’ve been in tears this whole week. Looking to the most recent videos Bin had been expressing his feelings about his current thoughts & it seemed disheartening that no one recognized his pain that were very close to him. When he had the platform to express his feelings to AROHA he tried to share, but held back because it was a place he could let them know how he is feeling but Apologized over that to mask his emotions. When people leave the earth without a good bye and we all start looking back and are shocked they left clues, said words, smiled thru pain and we overlooked it & we are SHOCKED. We are All living in the moment, but we can’t see that they’re crying out for help. So Check in on those around and close to you. Hear them and let them express what’s going on with themselves. Make time for them. Check in on them. HUG THEM. Reassure them and most of all PRAY with them. We may look at a person as a crutch in life but remember too that they too need a Channel to vent to and unload ALL their burdens. This is why I feel Praying is so important. Just being present with them can make a difference, but after hearing someone out and sitting to pray with them can make a change slowly from a dark place. Death can be uncertain, but let’s All be more aware and sensitive to those around our daily lives because a small distress signal can be your queue to make a difference. Mental Health is a real concern. Health & Wellness services are needed definitely for the industry in SK. I Will forever miss Bin. Definitely life will not be the same again without him and his Members and family and KPOP world. My heart hurts for them and you ALL AROHA fans around the Globe. 🥀🥹🖤 RILOVE MOONBIN
I'm so sorry for loss, I hope you have someone to talk to, please try not to be alone during this difficult time.
This is so sad and my heart goes out to his family, friends, and anyone who loves him and are mourning him. This young man feeling as if he had no other recourse is absolutely heartbreaking, and it leaves those closest to him questioning themselves and what they "missed", but it's no one's fault. Someone intent on ending things can even pretend everything is all right and leave you blindsided when they choose to leave you.
That being said, I've noticed that if an idol does do a live and appears to be depressed or having issues, the fans who bring it up and express concern are immediately attacked and told to stop spreading false rumors, as if needing emotional support and help is something embarrassing. Sometimes there are people who see it and want to help but their voices get buried. Regardless of that, at the end of the day, can we please be kinder to each other? Can we please stop with the toxic, insensitive behavior towards other human beings? Remember how horrible this feels right now and be KIND, especially when it looks like someone is having a hard time.
Rest in peace, Moonbin. And may his family and friends find the strength they need to get through this.
Thank you so much for your interpretation of the situation, it really shows that you have been in a somewhat similar situation at some point in your life 😢, sad so sad that another young K-pop artist has been lost to the stars ⭐️. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts even though it’s obvious how painful you’re finding this very sad news, please remember that not all contact is about trolls who are just being negative or abusive, I’m a elderly who’s lived a little. So I’ll say this to you, (All any of us can do is to try and let someone know that they’re thought of,loved,respected,appreciated etc) we only have each other while we’re here, so be nice,kind,thoughtful,caring and can spend a moment with someone. That moment might change the life of someone so lonely,desperate,depressed or broken. I hope you can be lifted from this sadness, and hope it may help you,good luck ☮️💡❤️
Thank you Sean….I know your beautiful heart is in so much pain.😢💔🙏🏼
My heart is broken for all of these young artists who feel they must always strive for perfection.....no one is, or ever will be perfect. I pray that this brings to light the struggles they must endure.
(I also wish I could just hug you and wipe away your tears....I am praying for you )
First, I just want to cry with you and give you a great big hug. 😢😢 Yes, so many people, and not just in K-POP feel alone. I’ve been sitting with Moon Bin’s death, praying for his soul, his family…and what has weighed so heavy is the feeling that we failed him somehow. As fans, could we have helped him through his loneliness? Could we have given him space to express his humanness without the burden of maintaining appearance?
Maybe there aren’t answers right now. But if there were away someone like me, from all the way here in the states could lend an ear to those in similar situations I would in a heartbeat.
This breaks my heart. Rest sweetly, Moon Bin. 🫶🏻😔
OMG Sean, it hurts my heart to see you cry. Sending you a virtual hug. I'm so sorry for the loss of Moonbin. My condolences to all of his family, friends, band members, fans and those that loved him. To hear of a young person taking their life is so heartbreaking and tragic.
I heard you in this video. You are valuable and much appreciated by your subscribers and me in particular. You’re doing a great job and always serving the best coverage of Korean news in English. I’m very much thankful for that, please cheer up and keep going!
I am so touched and I can’t believe it. Why is the Korean culture so harsh when a K-pop artist or anyone show the smallest sign of weakness. We are human and we have emotions. Truly you are an amazing person and I appreciate all your videos. Thank you for making this video 💜
And the problem Is that the thing they show are not weakensses they are beautiful gifts !!
😢 my heart is so sad. He was such a gentle, beautiful soul. So much talent. I don't know how to process this.
You know these idols are together for years night and day it becomes difficult when they go their separate ways. Remember Jimin when they moved bigger apartment he said he cried every night and didn't like being alone and Jhope stepped up and decided to share his room with him. These young men need to have a personal life as well at that age they suppose to be dating and sad they have no one special to share everything with
I appreciate your touching comments, sensitive and hard hitting. Sums this dear moonbin was in his way asking for help. My question is: where was the manager, who is a person close to the artist? Where was the agency whose responsibility is towards its artists welfare? Where is the help and support for these idols who work so hard under pressure for years? Well always lessons are learnt with hindsight. Sincere condolences to family close friends.
Unfortunately, I think the Korean culture is not so open about mental problems like depression and anxiety.. So managers and other people around the Idols and artists aren't really used to or sensitive enough to detect or spot these problems. They mostly aren't able to recognize the signs when an artist is already desperately crying for help... This is true of the artists' family members also...💔💔And their society is really very strict, people are super judgmental and oftentimes very harsh too. This is the sad part of their culture, I think.
Astro has had the same manager for years, who loves them and cares greatly about them. Feel free to read my comments above, as a psychiatrist and an Aroha myself. Moonbin has gotten help in the past. When he said he didn't feel well, it seemed to be in the context of something physical, since he has a history of injuries. Moonbin's leader in the group JinJin is an amazing person who also loved him and was very attentive to the needs of the group members. I don't think it is very kind to act like anyone ignored Moonbin or wasn't available to help him. He got help in the past for depression/anxiety, was treated and was supported and cheered on by his staff, his members, and the fans. Why is it so popular to blame the people around someone, as if it is certain they were neglected/ignored/not listened to? People can have depression and everyone can care and try to help them and they themselves can fight hard to live but still not make it.
So sad something needs to change Mental health is important. We don't need anymore young people dying😢
The kpop industry needs to do a better job of taking care of their artists. How many more talented young artists do we need to lose before anything change? This is so so so sad😭😭😭😭😭 Please take care of yourself and be kind to everyone🙏🙏🙏
I love you Moonbin❤❤❤❤❤❤I will miss your talent and handsome face 😢😢😢
I still can’t believe he’s gone. Like my brain can’t fully accept it yet.
I tear up and cry every-time I see a picture of him.
RIP MoonBin ♥️ 🕊️
I’m so sorry. 😔
God love you for reporting such a tragic loss to us, but we’re grateful for your honesty and sincere emotion.
Moonbin. RIP.
Very thoughtful conversation we should all take personally.
The idols celebrities are not privileged, they ve worked VERY HARD TO GET THERE .And we shouldn't consider human feelings as whining or "bad" .They must feel loved and secure to share their struggles their feelings. We have to RESPECT THEM AS HUMAN BEINGS. I feel so heartbroken 💔 about all these young people with going through things and everyone looks at the other side😢 PLEASEE EVERYONE EVERYWHERE LOOK OUT OF SIGNS OF PEOPLE WHO CRY FOR HELP .I'm so deeply sorry and sad and heartbroken 💔 May he rest in peace 🎉
I feel terrible for him, friends and family. I didn't follow Astro as closely, but I knew it he was apart of a well loved group. I hope that everyone finds a little peace today in a very dark world.
Firstly, my most heartfelt condolences to the family, friends of Moonbin and to all who worked with him. Seoulite, I am sorry for your pain. I live in hope that people will allow these sentient, creative artists to just be with no apologies. Very sad situation.
Thank you. That was a very important message to put out. You are so correct. This seems to be a big problem. They feel bad if they show any insecurities or pain ! When Moon Bin talked on stage how he could not talk to anyone,,,he can’t talk to fans , he only wants to show his best side while on stage “ it really makes you realize they want to reach out but don’t feel like they should! This is so hard and I did not want to see this again. It’s a very sad week. Let’s love each other more and be as kind as possible. Thank you again.
Why does it happen so much in kpop industry? The pressure of being perfect in a society that doesn’t allow imperfection and never to lose face..that is so sad.
Trutly, thank you, for Your compassionate plea to all around the kpop Industry and the rest of the world falls on all of our shoulders. Thank you for your sincerity.
If you (anyone watching this video) see another human being struggling, reach out without judgement and simply listen. It can be that simple.. to listen and offer a hug, unconditionally. There is this breaking point in the human barrier (face) when pain leeches out and is visible.
We are almost hardwired in the world today to try to over advise and to to give answers but in the moments of someone struggling with suicidal thoughts, it can prove to cause more damage then giving simple but honest comfort to the individual(s). Listen, listen, listen and listen again, then if and when -They are ready-, offer to drive them to someone who can be of professional help. Have the Helplines in your phone for easy access if and when they are needed. It's far too easy to walk away thinking that you aren't able to help. But you are...
And as fans within the kpop fandoms, also listen offering heartfelt support unconditionally. Remember, what you state online, matters (especially positive words and the negative words do Real harm). I have a little reminder that I tell myself, "If it wouldn't be something said face to face, keep it to yourself! "(or as my mental voice says in the real world, "Shut up and listen").
I am so sorry for your loss. I didn't know anything about him as I am newish to K-Pop and although I am a HUGE fan of BTS, I really don't know anything about other K pop groups. Someone posted the video of him listening and singing along to 'Butterfly' by BTS and even though I've never seen him before, it got to me and I could not stop the tears falling. He seemed like such a sweet person. It is such a tragedy when people think this is the only way. I offer my sincere condolences to everyone that is mourning him. I hope we can find out a way to help these tortured souls so that we never have to have this happen again. Please remember that you are not alone and you brighten the day for so many of us.
thank you for talking about him and providing some back ground, this also hit me hard. So young, my condolences to everyone.
Feel real bad about it. RIP beautiful one, Now you can dance and be a bigger star in heaven. 😢😢😢
Thank you SLT for a dignified obituary for Moon Bin. I discovered Moon Bin late last year after discovering BTS April 2022 (I was under a rock for a while). I was mesmerized by Moon Bin's talent, especially his dancing. I am now a huge BTS fan, and Monsta X, but I swear Moon Bin was the best dancer out there. No one came close to Moon Bin's dance talent and finesse. I am 57, and It's really hard to process someone so young and full of life gave up. Anyone struggling, please don't end your life, instead tell someone who cares that you are thinking of ending your life. I will treasure Moon Bin's dance videos. I pray for his peace, and send comforting love to his family, Astro team and devoted fans. Time to rest Moon Bin, you lived a noble life and left beautiful performance art for eternity. May God bless you 💙💔💜
indeed best dancer in south kores
Big hugs to you Sean. My heart breaks for his family, his friends and his fans. Sending courage and strength.
MY sincere condolences 🥀.
Thank ypu for bringing us the difficult news sincerely and considerately. 💗
Thank you for showing your vulnerability on camera like that. That was a very brave and beautiful thing and I wanted to take a moment to recognize that. Regarding Moonbin, I do not know his work or his group well. I know the name and the buzz around it but unfortunately that was it. Regardless, I send healing to his family, friends and fans. There is this negative stigma surrounding mental health and until that is corrected, people will never feel comfortable getting the help needed to support themselves. I am going to say this, and I know some will disagree, but the problem is not the companies. It is the general public/fans. They are the reason companies impose these strict dieting rules on their artists. The general public/fans are the reason the celebrities are apologizing for being sick or injured. The general public/fans are the reason that Moonbin and those that left before him felt obligated to keep the image of perfection instead of stepping away to get the help they needed. These celebrities will sacrifice their wellbeing to make sure the fans are happy. We will continue to have these conversations until the fans grow up and accept that the actors, actresses, and idols they love so dearly are human beings whose mental health is just as important as their physical health. My heart goes out to his group as well and I pray they are allowed to grieve properly and have access to grief counseling if needed.
Moonbin was human, his talent and beauty were valued, I only wish, he knew he was more than that to us. His pains, real thoughts, dating, all of that should be valued, more than talent and beauty, but alas, this world and, many only value taking, not giving.
I am coming back to this after your post for "My Mister". Wow, things don't change, but maybe with folks like you bringing this to the forefront over and over someday it will get better. Thanks always, Sean.
This was heartfelt. Thank you.
It’s such a tragedy when a young life is lost. My heart goes out to his family and to you, Sean.
Thank you for beautiful and heartfelt words about the tragedy of Moonbin's passing. And your hopeful words to understand mental concerns for everyone. Idols are human first and humans should be able to have help with any personal struggle.
I am touched how respectful is your video.
You are right, there is ALWAYS a CRY FOR HELP before the attempt or actual act to end ones life. And to be under so much pressure and in the light of the public constantly, it really is stressful, lonely and depressing. They can’t live their lives normally as themselves like most everyone else and it’s difficult to make friends or trust people because most people will only see you as a famous person and not just as a person. They get lost between what they are and who they are & can play havoc emotionally and mentally. So many pressures and expectations to live up to globally, it’s never ending. This breaks my heart to hear this. Pay attention to those you’re close to, their moods, their habits, any kind of odd or different way of doing or saying things. If they lose interest in both the things they love to do and caring for their own selves. Some times when you are in this kind of state, you lack self hygiene; taking showers/bathing gaps will be stretched for lengthy periods, wearing same dirty clothes for days on end, hoarding can happen, disorganization and chaos in their personal space, anything that is different from their normal way is a flag. Don’t blow it off thinking it’s nothing or none of your business. Let them know you are there and you care.
my deepest condolences to Moonbin's family and friends and fans. God bless you Sean, my heart goes out to you as well. Stay healthy, stay safe.
Thank you Sean for sharing yr experience working with Moonbin. May he RIP. It is so sad bec from the outside in, everything looks glossy and pretty. But why it is too easy to resort to this extreme esp in the k pop world ? I just don't understand when someone has it "all" but yet has none...Idols need to be able to open up and discuss their worries and should not be put down for sharing them. I guess, society needs to be educated to accepting and not judging idols/artist in distress.
Wishing for a better future for all. Stay safe. 💜
RIP condolences to his family
Thank you for sharing your heart! Yes those young people need more help and support 🙏😊
There was a follow up report that the cause of death is heart attack. Both him and Sanha were overseas and Bin wasn't feeling well, so he's probably really tired when he came back to Seoul. And there's a possibility that he was really really tired and sick that night and he decided to sleep on it, which may have led for his heart to stop.
That's only according to what I've read.
😢😢😢so sorry to hear this
You take care of yourself too. I appreciate you being frank and speaking up for the Moonbin's of the world
I’m so sorry for this great loss, My true heart felt condolences to his Family, friends and fans. ❤
Oh Good God. I feel for his family. I am not a K-Pop person the kid was only 25 years old. So sorry for his family.
Utmost condolences for Moonbin’s family & loved ones, and Big hugs to you. It’s especially hard to get through life sometimes, but I hope all of us can find someone who truly cares & who we can talk to before it’s too late.
What a tragedy for a such delightful but promising talent just vanished without a word. RIP 😭🙏 Moon Bin
Thank you for sharing your true emotions, heartbreak and the love that you felt for MoonBin. Remember the happiness his music gave you and his smile.