The most reliable Christian documentary for me. Thank God almighty that I am Baptist Christian from Tunisia. In fact, I was a Muslim and I believe in Christ Jesus as Lord and saviour a year ago. Thanks be to God
praise the Lord my brother! that is so beautiful and amazing to hear. our Lord is Good. may the king of kings and Lord of Lords Christ Jesus bless you and keep you my brothers
@zealousideal that's not what we teach my friend...Maybe that one pastor did to you .....we go off the bible and not once does it say to say this one time and you're good...so not all are like this...keep moving closer to God as his word instructured us to do...pretty simple brother...even it's biblical or it's ain't....constantly battling woth the peace from our lord
The great schism? The Bishop of Rome (the Pope) had a schism with the Orthodox Church sometime around 1000 AD. The orthodox didn’t believe one bishop should be supreme above others. Before that, there was only one church, Jesus’ church.
@@Powerranger-le4up Incorrect. For instance, there's no evidence that Peter was ever over Rome, and Peter accepts Paul's rebuke. Paul was over gentiles, while as far as we know, Peter worked mainly on Jews. The first mention of Peter being in Rome was something like 3-500 years after his death. Plus, Catholicism, especially the polity, came about thanks to Romans trying to legislate the church, not because of Jesus.
@@SeanWinters why do you lie?? Ignatius of Antioch “Not as Peter and Paul did, do I command you [Romans]. They were apostles, and I am a convict” (Letter to the Romans 4:3 [A.D. 110]). Dionysius of Corinth “You [Pope Soter] have also, by your very admonition, brought together the planting that was made by Peter and Paul at Rome and at Corinth; for both of them alike planted in our Corinth and taught us; and both alike, teaching similarly in Italy, suffered martyrdom at the same time” (Letter to Pope Soter [A.D. 170], in Eusebius, History of the Church 2:25:8). Irenaeus “Matthew also issued among the Hebrews a written Gospel in their own language, while Peter and Paul were evangelizing in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church” (Against Heresies, 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]). “But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the succession of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the succession of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With that church [of Rome], because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition” (ibid., 3, 3, 2). “The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus. Paul makes mention of this Linus in the letter to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21]. To him succeeded Anacletus, and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was chosen for the episcopate. He had seen the blessed apostles and was acquainted with them. It might be said that he still heard the echoes of the preaching of the apostles and had their traditions before his eyes. And not only he, for there were many still remaining who had been instructed by the apostles. In the time of Clement, no small dissension having arisen among the brethren in Corinth, the church in Rome sent a very strong letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to peace and renewing their faith. . . . To this Clement, Evaristus succeeded . . . and now, in the twelfth place after the apostles, the lot of the episcopate [of Rome] has fallen to Eleutherius. In this order, and by the teaching of the apostles handed down in the Church, the preaching of the truth has come down to us” (ibid., 3, 3, 3). Gaius “It is recorded that Paul was beheaded in Rome itself, and Peter, likewise, was crucified, during the reign [of the Emperor Nero]. The account is confirmed by the names of Peter and Paul over the cemeteries there, which remain to the present time. And it is confirmed also by a stalwart man of the Church, Gaius by name, who lived in the time of Zephyrinus, bishop of Rome. This Gaius, in a written disputation with Proclus, the leader of the sect of Cataphrygians, says this of the places in which the remains of the aforementioned apostles were deposited: ‘I can point out the trophies of the apostles. For if you are willing to go to the Vatican or to the Ostian Way, you will find the trophies of those who founded this Church’” (Disputation with Proclus [A.D. 198] in Eusebius, Church History 2:25:5).
Thank you brother, my wife and I are going through discipleship right now and am learning alot. This really helps reinforcing what i've learned. My wife and I were baptized last Sunday. Praise God!
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THIS. I LEFT THE GIANT DENOMINATION BAPTIST BECAUSE OF THIER FAILURED TO OBEY OR DIDNT PRACTICE THIS BAPTIST DISTINCTIVE ANYMORE AND THEY ALLOWED THE WORLDLY SYSTEM IN THEIR CHURCH. I BELIEVED THE TRUE CHURCH FROM JESUS CHRIST PRACTICES. AS A RETIRED GOV. WORKER AND MY 7 YRS IN MINISTRY AS A PASTOR I WAS HAPPY BECAUSE I KNEW SOME CHURCHES OUTHERE CONTINUE THIS PRACTICES UNTIL NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITS GIVE ME A COURAGE BY YOUR MESSAGE TO CONTINUE SERVING THE LORD SPECIALLY IN OUR NEW OUTREACHES. MARANATHA! TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
Exactly. So many churches have turned away from Christ nowadays and the gospel to fables of men and other nonsense. Some even go against the Bible and support gay marriage or even ordain gay clergy. It’s a shame what has happened in the U.S. and western hemisphere.
Thank you to Pastor Anderson and Pastor Jiminez. For the dissenters; Do not judge the Word by your Hollywood outlook, instead be honest with yourself. Do the Laws and guidelines of Christ help or harm someone who follows them? Do they contribute to a healthier and safer society, or are the wages of sin truly death? You can find the answers by being honest with yourself and searching the Eternal Word of God. All the best.
Helpful video, thank you! I'm not for nor against "Baptist." I was raised Roman Catholic and now "Protestant." I was born and raised in Sac Town and now live in Houston. Blessings everyone. 🙏
You believe the King James Bible? Not the Lord Jesus Christ? What of the at least ten different revisions of the King. James Bible with over 20000 differences do you believe? Also what did people believe before 1611? Isn't the gospel about Christ and him crucified? Not some archaic imperfect uninspired translation of scripture called the King James Bible
You must be a sda and can't rightly divide Scripture. Do you know that James was an Apostle to the Jews. Jews need a sign the Scripture says. When we are saved by grace we keep the commandments because we love Christ who died for us. It's because of love and not work. No one ever got saved by works. No one. The law was given to the lawless and not the righteous. It's common sense
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” ~ 1 Corinthians 1:17
Baptism is like an outward profession that we have trusted Christ as our Lord and Saviour. Old person is dead, buried and then risen again to newness and eternal life. We identify with Christ. Buried is under the water and not sprinkled.
The Believers in antiquity never called themselves Christians. They never called themselves Baptist. There is only one Church in the Bible. Romans 16:16
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch Latin Greek Aramaic Chaden Hebrew And English, my languages Learn your history there's no such thing as a Baptist Church in the Bible. You might want to check with the newspaper editor in Holland to see how the Baptist Church got its name. Or check with your founder John Smyte 1607 AD.
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians 89-117AD For, since you are subject to the bishop as to Jesus Christ, you appear to me to live not after the manner of men, but according to Jesus Christ, who died for us, in order, by believing in His death, you may escape from death. It is therefore necessary that, as you indeed do, so without the bishop you should do nothing, but should also be subject to the presbytery, as to the apostle of Jesus Christ, who is our hope, in whom, if we live, we shall [at last] be found. It is fitting also that the deacons, as being [the ministers] of the mysteries of Jesus Christ, should in every respect be pleasing to all. For they are not ministers of meat and drink, but servants of the Church of God. They are bound, therefore, to avoid all grounds of accusation [against them], as they would do fire.
I was given an assignment to do two research papers on culture behaviors this is one of the cultural behaviors that I picked I’m also going to cite work and quotes from it so excited 😆 God is good!
A very good explanation of Baptist history, but Pastor Jimenez's comments re incense are odd. Zachariah, the father of John the Baptist, had the lot of burning incense in the Temple. The golden censer was in the Holy of Holies. Angels offer incense at the Throne of God. Lk 1:8 Rev 8:3, 5 Heb 9:4 There is ample mention of burning incense in a thurible or censer throughout the Bible! Why would the pastor make fun of this, speaking as if he doesn't even know what this is? This greatly takes away from his testimony. Also, there were many holy bishops known for their Godly life and miracles who were present at Nicaea. I would like to see a more in depth, honest discussion of the early Church period, holding to the Truth without unnecessarily disparaging that which is Biblical.
He said: "why the Roman Catholic does all these weird, like Eastern mys(?)...there's like all these...candles...when you go to their funerals they've got I don't know like some bag, like vacuum bag that they're dusting out....." The Eastern Orthodox use incense at every single church service, the priest or deacon censing the people as a blessing. "Let my prayer rise before Thee as incense set before Thee" Ps 141:2. The way he speaks is as if he doesn't understand the concept of censing or offering incense in worship, which is shown not only in the Old Testament, but also in the New. This article illustrates it all very well: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_offering. The question is not so much about the continued use of incense in New Testament worship as about why Pastor Jimenez would speak in such a disparaging way as if ignorant of the mention throughout the Bible of its use. To make a solid, honest and good defence of the Baptist faith it a disservice when any pastor (and I've heard many others do the same) simply speaks almost mockingly about a given thing without going more seriously into the history and theology of why it is an aberration, false doctrine, error or 'tradition of men'.
Correct. Incense has been used since the OT and is mentioned in Revelation as being symbolic of our prayers... you mentioned early Christian Bishops - does your Church have bishops?
I was raised Baptist. I was baptized at 13. My brothers and sisters, Baptists are a part of a greater movement called Protestantism. Protestants believe in Sola Scriputra, it is Latin, it means, the “Word alone”. Martin Luther had this at the center of his reasoning for breaking away from the Catholic Church. But as a Baptist, I learned in my adulthood that there is the Church Christ’s original Apostles founded, and it is called the Orthodox Church! It comes before Protestants or Catholics, and here is the thing, they are the church that put the New Testament into pages! Truly, I believe in the Lord’s word, and Christ has a bride, and it is the church, and that is the Orthodox Church that was founded by Christ’s apostle’s, and they transcribed Jesus’ ministry into pages. Trust me, you can fact check me by researching the church’s history. If the Apostle Paul walked among us today, he’d recognize an Orthodox service, but a Baptist service would confuse him. Much love, trade potlucks for fasting, God Bless!
What's really interesting is the difference between Calvinist and free will baptists, and how Calvinists keep attempting to, for lack of better word, "slither" their way Into power within the baptist world... And what's even more interesting is that Calvinists used to be the majority of baptists, at least in the English tradition.
I will be doing a 6 part rebuttal on this video, today I will be reviewing the obvious errors and lies this untruthful origination spreads. 4:07 There lineage does not go back to the Apostles or Christ. The majority of the groups they claim to be Baptist were either closer to Catholicism or a type of Gnosticism/Manichaeism, I will be posting more information of some of the groups when the are mentioned and will be doing a comparison of their beliefs to the modern day Baptist beliefs. 5:51 It goes to show the incompetence of some of these "Pastors" if they only thought through some of the things they said I would have a little more respect for them. his claim which can be proven to be historically wrong is that he is claiming that in 30 AD there were New Testament Church's, really New Testament Church's in 30 AD. its very likely that not a LETTER of the New Testament was even written at this time and the Church was functioning solely on Oral Tradition. 9:30 you say that Christian was a derogatory term used to mock them and I would agree BUT I wanted to point out at which Church they was First called Christians and that was Antioch. the story of Acts 11 took place about 43-44 AD and Peter was there for about 7 years before Going to Rome. His successor was Saint Evodius who then died in about 69 AD then Saint Ignatius became Bishop at Antioch. this is troubling because St Ignatius is in no way, size, shape or form Baptist but closely resembles what is taught in the Catholic Church. You can read his writing's that we are very sure he did write though their are some that are falsely acclaimed to him. There are seven that most scholars agree was written by him and they are The Epistle to the Ephesians, The Epistle to the Magnesians, The Epistle to the Trallians, The Epistle to the Romans, The Epistle to the Philadelphians, The Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, The Epistle to Polycarp, a bishop of Smyrna. During the beginning of the reformation many of his writings were claimed to be false because they are so Catholic, Later Textual Criticism strongly favors the writings are authentically his. 17:07 the Council of Nicaea was called to combat the Arian Heresy it was NOT this conspiratorial meeting these Men want you to believe. if you want to see what was discussed at the Council of Nicaea we have the complete Work of the Council. The university of California at Northridge puts it this was "The full texts of the 20 Canons issued by the Council survive, as well as ancient summaries of the texts, and the famous Nicene Creed." so nothing conspiratorial, just lack of investigation or pure misinformation done by these Men, we will be charitable and just call them ignorant rather then call them deceitful though the latter MAY very well be. 17:23 they were called Heretics because that is what they was. they denied the Deity of Christ. that's Heresy. 17:58 I would like to ask this man what on heavens earth would make him think Waldensians or Paulicians would be banned at the Council of Nicaea? THEY DIDNT EVEN EXIST YET!!! Paulicians were founded the mid 7th century 300 years after Nicaea happened the Waldensians didn't come along until 100 years after the Great Schism. this is utter foolishness and Parroting at its finest. well what about the Albigensian's? nope that's even farther away that's the 12th-13th century, what about the Anabaptist? now at this time any well informed Baptist successionist will be biting at the bit to correct me so when it comes along to the Anabaptist its important to know that Anabaptist was a 15th century Group But there was Groups before that that was labeled as Anabaptist because the word just means rebaptizer. so the Church grouped all the Anabaptist as 1 because they all rebaptized. that DOES NOT MEAN these are the same Group. they are VERY different. one quote used to support Baptist Sucessionism is a quote by Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius but a later critic of the quote proves exactly what I said, that Anabaptist as a term can mean many different groups it does not mean these groups would be anywhere near what the Anabaptist of the 15th century was. 18:53 do you have ANY evidence of that? the reason I am rebutting that in this way is because I know the answer is no. welp we are 20 minutes in and already lies as expected. I will be doing the next 20 minutes next week the Lord be willing. its ashamed that i am doing such a thorough rebuttal of this but if this is what The Lord has put on my heart to do then I will be obedient.
Excellent summary, especially for me since I could only make it through 20 minutes of this. I'm Eastern Orthodox and I found this to be more like satire versus a legitimate documentary. Someone should explain to them where the Bible actually came from, and that it would have been absurd to wait until adulthood to Baptize someone! That doesn't even address the other dozens of inaccuracies and revisionist history shown here.
90 % of so called Christians will say their saved through faith, but when they explain salvation, it's anything, but faith. They've been deceived so long, they are blind. All you have to do is look up definitions and believe God's Word. I don't care if the so called pastor, is dad, he's not worth going to hell over. Call him out 😊
yes those are in public domain. you just need to compare sources and what the bible teaches. there's no one source that i would say as the one most reliable other than the bible. independent sources are great
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch The fact if a church traces their history and subsequently beliefs to these groups, then clearly one's doctrine is unbiblical, unless of course the demiurge is real??
“I believe in pastoral authority. I don’t answer to anyone but God and I have complete autonomy of my church!” You mean like the Pope right? Interesting 🤔
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch Head of the local church on earth, answers to no one but God, can do whatever they want inside the church…. Explain to me how that’s not like a miniature Pope?
@@ryanpadgett2549 don't nitpick the man, he just meant that compared to cults like roman catholics which have this elaborate chain of commands which is not biblical, baptists have just what the bible teach, that the pastor answers to God only when it comes to ministry related things.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch Jehovah witnesses claim that they are “just following what the Bible says” too, and they don’t believe in the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, that hell is real, and only a 144,000 go to heaven. Scripture apart from the teaching of the Church is useless. Baptists have just made themselves little popes and interpret the Scriptures in ways it suits them…. Like every other sect. Btw, that Bible you cling to was complied and declared canon by the Catholic Church. Anyways, enjoy your watered down Christianity 🥳
@@ryanpadgett2549 Pretty simple, if a pastor becomes evil, you can join a different church and not be "excommunicated". If you hate the pope, you can't leave the Catholic church. The pope can be as evil as he wants, Catholics can't go to a different church with a different pope, meanwhile baptists can find a new pastor. This is why westborough (a Calvinist "Baptist" church) was always so small. Men do not hold the keys to heaven, Jesus does.
“They’re emptying a vacuum bag… you don’t get that eastern mysticism from the word of God” Exodus 30: 34 And the Lord said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight: 35 And thou shalt make it a perfume, a confection after the art of the apothecary, tempered together, pure and holy: 36 And thou shalt beat some of it very small, and put of it before the testimony in the tabernacle of the congregation, where I will meet with thee: it shall be unto you most holy. Let us remember that Christianity is not a Western construct, but a truth originating in the Middle East.
Burning incense in the Tabernacle or Temple is not the same thing as burning stuff in a hanging ball above the dead bodies. We ARE the temples, we don't have need of this, this is Old Testament ritual, which we don't need. Conversely, plenty pagans do this.
no that is a lie where is your proof catholic teachings are found opposing the bible in many areas, how could they be the church that the apostles formed avoid the RC lies
I agree with 99% of everything in this video. I am an independent fundamental KJB only pastor. However, as is often typical with Stephen Anderson, the pastor who made this video sadly has the very same unChristlike spirit when he preaches. People do not appreciate being talked down to (this is what Catholicism has also down for years). One does not have to speak in a hateful demeaning spirit in order to get their point across. If your desire is to win Catholics to Christ and Protestants to Christ speaking with hateful speeches not going to do that.
are you knowingly and willing forgetting how the Lord (and pretty much all true biblical preachers) did preach hard against false teachers and false doctrines and hypocrite liars? are the biblical preachers 'hateful' for you?
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch steven anderson isn't a true biblical preacher. he's a con artist who diverts you from the words he's saying by the way he's saying them, hence loud tones, screaming, laughing, etc. then he covers it up with hard preaching lol
Love this video! Makes me proud to be Baptist There's some inaccurate things said about pentecostal and Assembly of God churches however that I wish they'd researched more
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch The generalization of what pentecostals believe. In my town alone the pentecostal church teaches once saved always saved to site just one example of the top of my head. The assembly of god here also denies the apostles Creed & does not accept being catholic or part of the "universal" church. Also the pentecostal church here does not teach "word of faith" doctrine but in this video that's mentioned as a teaching of thiers ( 54;03) . Those are just the ones that come to mind right off, like I said to much generalization of those two groups, they're not all the same across the country
@@Yelladog78 yes i think you're correct but i think that is too much to ask for a documentary about baptists i mean obviously there are these differences between 'christian' groups and too many also to cover in one breath so, it is what it is. people will have to dig deep to learn the nuances of the subject.
not all and not all the time, but there's time to do that, as done by biblical prophets “Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.” Isaiah 58:1
In Acts and the epistles references to "the Jews" is referring to Jewish leaders. The leadership had something to lose, influence. The average Jew did not persecute Christianity. Many of them became Christian.
Because It’s all lies. Either you guys are totally ignorant of church history, or you’re deliberately lying on purpose. Almost everything you’re saying here is lies and twisted truths. For example, IF the Roman Catholic Church started during Constantine, then how was their Popes and Saints going back to the time of Christ???? There are literally Saints, writings, documents, bishops, and popes that go all the way back to 30 A.D. 😂 You also had the Orthodox too.. except it was one Church combined. It split in 1054 AD., so your dates are also wrong, which proves my point. And technically, it wasn’t a clean split in exactly 1054. It happened over the course of hundreds of years slowly overtime actually (and it was for many many reasons). It was Not just two or three reasons. You guys should have me giving these lectures. I could do 10 times a better job and actually be accurate. Where do you get these pastors? They need to go back to seminary.
@@zealousidealyou should report this video for disinformation Landmarkism was a lie invented by James Milton Carroll that slanders the Catholic Church and the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Church by extension out of the realisation that there was no historical legacy for the baptists prior to the 1500s
same reason why calvinists want people to belong to either calvinists or armenian it's a false dichotomy which gives people no good choice and it's too much for them to actually have the right church.
Doesn't the Eastern Orthodox church also use incense as well? I thought it was from the Old Testament priesthood. The Catholic church was probably already doing that before the schism. Not only that, the EO is very devoted to Mary as well, and the saints.
Yes, just as Revelation says our prayers raise to Heaven like incense - so the Catholic Church (and Orthodox Churches since 1054) have been using incense since before the Bible was canonized in 392
As the son of a Baptist minister and educator I am still very puzzled about the racism embedded within the Southern Baptist convention followers as different from the Northern Baptist Convention. How this can be accepted and not condemned by the supposedly Baptist true faith is a problem for me to this day. Is it any wonder that the Sunday hour of 11-12 has been called the most racial segregated hour in the United States. Shame on this and not at all Christian.
First. Why would it be advantageous for Constantine to side with a religion so popularly hated when he’s the leader of THE world power? I think it’s strange that the speaker adopts a mocking tone and loaded language when describing the dream that completely redirects Constantine with no obvious motive or gain. Second, why were church leaders called bishops and why did the baptist religion change that tradition?
What historical basis have we for believing or knowing that there were Baptists that did not show up to the meeting with Constantine and what their beliefs and motives were for not doing so?
Why weren’t the good men that came out of the Catholic Church attending the baptist churches that you claim coexisted throughout this historic timeline?
Please Help me I Believe Jesus Is The Son and God The Son of The Holy Trinity I Believe Jesus Shed His Blood and Died in my place to Pay for All my Sins He Was Buried Then 3 Days Later Jesus Arose From The Dead!!! But I am struggling with some Sins that I honestly don’t know how to quit I hate my Sins But I genuinely don’t know how to stop them Am I still Saved because of my faith in Jesus or am I Not Saved because of my Sins? Am I born again because of my faith in Jesus or is there something more I need to do? Thank you for All your Help and Time God Bless you
if you believed the Lord Jesus then you're already saved, and once saved, always saved all Christians struggle with some sin those sins should be dealt with to have better ministry and better relationship with God and His people. doesn't have to be a salvation issue. if you still have questions and like help, pls message us on our fb page, thanks.
I found this interesting (I have IFB roots) but lost interest after the few references to John Calvin as some sort of good example of a model christian. The claim is either disingenuous to historical truth or entirely ignorant of just how truly horrible he was.
The Christians who were persecuted were the Roman Catholics. The christians who fought the early heresies of the wrong gospel were the Roman Catholics. The christians who wrote all the creeds and assembled the Bible were the Roman Catholics. Time to come home to mother church. We need to stand together as Christ asked us.
They have renamed pope. No longer Vicar of Christ, Now bishop of Rome. Talking Christ out of his fake title is scary because in end days they will take Christ out to u nite all religions. They all recognize God but not our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Good grief Roger slow down. It's not a race, and in some places I can't even understand what you're saying because you're talking too fast. Used car salesmen talk like this, or the guy reading the disclaimers on radio ads. If I didn't know any better I'd think he was coked up.
This guy just said one can commit adultery and remain saved! 1 Cor 6:9-10 “ Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters,👉🏾 nor adulterers👈🏾, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners 👉🏾👉🏾will inherit the kingdom of God.”👈🏾👈🏾 This is an embarrassment documentary devoid of truth
This video has so many errors I wouldn’t even know where to begin and I’m a Baptist. You don’t have to rewrite church history to be a Baptist. I truly hope this video isn’t the only church history that people watching learn but, sadly, for many it probably will be. People believe what they want. Especially when it comes to religion.
need to specify and define repentance first in "salvation of the soul" context: Repentance = Correct - turn from unbelief to belief Repent of all sins as requirement to salvation of the soul ---- this is wrong
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch there is trouble in reconciling this to Christian worldview and Holy Scripture. The word "repent" *μετανοέω* means to change purpose, it is holistic. Meaning you change your purpose to that of God. Salvation includes becoming a new creation (2Corinthians 5:17) and offering your life and everything in it, including your actions and purpose/telos of being, as a living sacrifice to God (Romans 12:1-2). Acts 3:19 "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord." Acts 17:30-31 explicitly links repentance to salvation. There is no picture of salvation given in the New Testament that does not involve a total transformation of being.
@@willh9104You are extrapolating what repentance is. It simply means a change of mind. A change in what you are trusting to save you. You should try it soon and get saved
while i agree with much of this video, it does seem strange that it links Baptists to the Anabaptists and claims we came from them, then at about 46:47 he denounces the Amish for believing in works, BUT the Amish ARE Anabaptists! the Anabaptists (Amish, Mennonites, etc) were not the spiritual ancestors of Baptists. the Anabaptists rarely baptized by immersion, tho they did baptize only adults. many Menonnites are coming much closer to being Baptists, but they are not our forefathers
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch well I do know that the Anabaptists at the time of the Reformation did not baptize by immersion and that was over 500 yrs ago. Perhaps the video shouldve made a distinction, because anyone who has studied history knows that when you use the word "anabaptists" it refers to amish/mennonites. Strictly speaking, anyone who "baptizes again" could be called "anabaptist" so in that case mormons and jw's could be lumped into that word. also the Waldensians and Paulicians had some heretical beliefs. Waldensian churches still exist in Italy as I have visited one. The undertone of the video implies that there MUST be a "succession" of churches going back to Christ for Baptists to be valid. However, if ANYONE starts a New Testament church based on the qualifications of scripture, it is a valid church even tho it did not come from another Baptist church. Church successionism is just as faulty as the catholic doctrine of apostolic succession. One doesnt need to prove their church descends from other churches to be valid as Landmarkism teaches. "Spiritual Landmarkism" is the way to go on this.
Baptist re-baptize people who are according to them falsely baptized, now I wonder, based on what Scripture is that done, as we never seen anyone in the Bible re-water baptized. If this were an option, Jesus would sure put that in the Scripture.
No need go re Baptism we can baptise from childwood also speritual Baptism is the important things which all the Christian should no that secound Baptism means belive in jesuschrist
I totally disagree that the name "Christian" as a derogatory term. God would not let Gentiles name his New Testament people and the language used in Acts 11:26 "χρηματίσαι" means it was given by the inspiration of God. Isaiah 56:5 foretold that God would give his people a new name and it makes no sense that God would let Syrians label his people. Nero's second wife, it is said, had Jewish sympathies and that may be one reason why Nero did what he did. Moreover, Christian persecution, under Simon Bar Kokhba continued all the way up to the disappearance of the Jewish State in A.D.136.
God created your mind and your religion should not ask you to not use it. If your religious leaders can’t make the faith they are teaching you make sense, it’s ok to ask questions and seek answers ❤ Talking quickly and using false logic and speaking disrespectfully of other ideologies is a very poor way of attempting to rationalize or explain your beliefs.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchYou bring up a point. False beliefs shouldn’t be respected, which is why I am reporting this documentary to CZcams for misinformation.
What’s ironic is how you bash the Pentecostal (I’m not Pentecostal I’m leaning Catholic) for not believing faith alone because they believe you have to be baptized but yet you say that unless you are immersed it’s not a valid baptism? That’s kinda a dumb self refuting idea.
no it's just properly putting things in their place understand that 2 different context below are considered and so the apparent contradiction to you 1. Context 1 - salvation of the soul - water baptism not required 2. Context 2 - outside of 'salvation of the soul' context - water baptism still not required for salvation of the soul but is commanded for some other thing, i.e. to follow righteousness expected of the Lord for His children, for rewards and such
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch as a leaning Catholic (A Church that actually can trace its lineage to the apostles through Ignatius of Antioch, Clement of Rome, Polycarp of Smyrna). I would side that Baptism is a sacrament and that God has bound himself to the sacraments BUT is not bound by them. In other words you can go to heaven without being baptized but that doesn’t negate that Baptism saves. All early church fathers taught unanimously baptismal regeneration. The Paulicians were NOT baptist but heretics who are in hell if they did not repent. It goes to show how the idea of baptist successionism is a sorry put together idea that’s of the devil.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.” Acts 2:38-39 KJV When St. Peter said the promise of baptism is for children, the word “children” (from the Greek teknon) also includes infants. This same word, teknon,is used later in Acts 21:21 to describe the circumcision of eight-day-old infants. The Greek word for “household,” oikos, refers to all the members of a family, adults as well as infants and children. The Book of Acts speaks of whole households being baptized, so any infants and children who belonged to these households would have been included. St. Paul baptizes Lydia with “her household” (16:15); the entire household of Cornelius (see 10:48; 11:14); the Philippian jailer “and all his family” (16:33); and the “household of Stephanus” (1 Cor 1:16). In none of these accounts is there ever any indication that infants and children are excluded from baptism.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch also I’m almost done with writing a rebuttal to the first 30 minutes of this video and am looking forward to demolishing your lies. You have strayed from True Christianity and hold unbiblical doctrine’s such as Sola Scriptura I have no more respect for Baptist then I do for Jehovah’s witnesses and Mormon’s. I will be posting my rebuttals with the time stamps in which they correspond to, to be sure everything Is rebutted in the context it is being presented in.
Anyone that has ACTUALLY studied church history in college (and not a tainted Baptist one) will know the truth. And heck even most ex baptists as myself know this is false. I even knew this as a kid growing up in a Baptist household with great great great great grandparents who were famous Baptist apostles and missionaries and pastors and before I even had any education myself and saw through this propaganda. Anyone worth their salt that has any honesty and integrity anywhere in their being can see through this a mile away! This is beyond laughable!! And there’s no denomination that would even agree with you nor does history itself and facts and science and historical evidence. You guys disprove your own claims yourself. You can’t have it both ways. So you claimed to break away from the church and you teach sola scriptura, sola fide , scripture alone, faith alone, Bible alone, etc …which is the antithesis of the early church! Geez, you can’t break away from all of that and break away from apostolic succession but then try to at the same time claim that you are part of the original or early church. No, You cannot have it both ways. 😂 wow. Well, Most of us Catholics now are ex Baptist ministers ourselves. Keep studying one day you guys will come home to the truth.
haha, catholic propaganda lies you have there obviously you have not even watched the film or have understanding of the subject baptists DID NOT break away from any group, the film doesn't say that, but actually the opposite but you point that out again and again, what a clown get some brain, you bot
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch that don't even matter. the main issue is closed minded thinking and ability to trap millions of people into thinking that God's true word is only in one version of a book translated by a bunch of book smart scholars. you sound ridiculous.
I’m not a bot. I’m an ex Baptist and ex pastor! I’m telling you that you are deceived. I watched the whole video and I already know what you teach. Obviously you don’t care about your own salvation and true historical evidence. The reason why I am NOW Catholic is because I went back and studied true church history, and the church fathers and the early church. Not just what I learned in Baptist seminary, but actually going back in my OWN studies and unbiasedly learning the full details. Yes my family by the way (going back hundreds and hundreds of years) were Baptist pastors, missionaries, one was even called the Baptist “apostle” to Louisiana. You probably didn’t even know they use the word apostle in Baptist faith. But if you don’t believe me go and research Joseph Willis!! He was one of my great great great grandfathers! Pastor and apostle of the Baptist faith to Louisiana when it was 100% Catholic. So much for your bot excuse. You can run but you can’t hide from the truth! 😂 Don’t worry, I’ll be here here when you’re ready to join the Catholic Church. Let me know.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchyou just proved how stupid you are. “We didn’t break away from the church????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You obviously don’t even know a major part of history called the Reformation ! Tell that to Martin Luther then! The word protestant literally means protest dummy. You’re protesting the Catholic Church. 😂. Wow you can’t make this up. Now you guys try to say that you’re not part of that Protestant group, you are a separate group. But except your arguments don’t hold any water. What you guys teach and believe for 1. is not what any groups taught and believed before. 2. Those groups who were not part of the church before were called heretics. So you can’t have both ways And even if you did you just refuted yourself. 😂 The fact that you are too stupid to see this proves my points. That’s why every Baptist pastor that did their homework is now Catholic 😂. Just saying…..
Good documentary, but why be Catholic? Because it’s true! As GK Chesterton said, once a man stops his hatred of the church he will be pulled toward it.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchWhy is y’all’s bible only 66 books long? Why bend the knee to a deranged German arch-heretic and mutilate the biblical canon?
The way I view it is that You are wrong and it shows. We profess the Nicene Creed, accept the Bible, receive the 7 sacraments. Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian and certainly not a Baptist. Saint John was never a Baptist neither. Baptism is a requirement to enter the church and can be administered by immersion or by pouring over the forehead. It's called Christening which means to make one Christian. Baptisim is administered in the church by the front door because that shows the candidate is entering the church. Scripture and tradition are on equal footing. There is more Scripture read on Sunday morning in a Catholic church than most other churches combined who only read a verse or two. The Lord's Supper is observed and prayers are offered. Acts 2:42. Saint John chapter 6. Baptist is Protestant and came after the Great schism. Baptists are considered separated brethren. Just everything in this message rubbed me the wrong way because it is inaccurate. There are Reformed Catholics out there. Some of them do happen to fall under the Protestant banner. Independent and Old Catholic, Methodists, Anglicans, Orthodox, etc. All Catholic!
Paul said let their be no divisons among you." You who call yourself of Cephas, or Apollos, or Baptist, or Lutheran, or Methodist did any of these die for you? 1 Corinthians 1-3. Denominationalism is not of God! "1 Corinthians 1:12-15 KJV [12] Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. [13] Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? [14] I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; [15] lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. " We were never called to denominate! We are called to be ONE! We were called to be a Kingdom of priests and a holy nation! We were called to be Israel! Ephesians 2:12 KJV [12] that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: "
well you forgot about these? Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch I agree with those verses, thanks for sharing, but they have nothing to do with my point. I wasn't talking about another gospel. I was talking about denominational division and the churches identity crisis. Calling oneself Baptist is a part of that divison. No where are we to ever call ourselves Baptist, Lutheran, Calvin's, Methodist, etc. Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 1,3 that this is divison and it is carnal, and calls those that do this babes. Something to consider when defending your denomination.
@@JosefGroup if you got one of the message of the documentary, which is true btw, it was OTHER people that called baptists as baptists, they just embrace the name like the name christian which other people have called the christians on the 1st century. also groups have to have name to tell them apart from others so there IS a need for that name. also so many 'christian' groups are just mocking true christianity by their mere existence so it's good to distance from those and be identified as different from those... so may we know what 'denomination' you belong to? are you christian?
I’m sorry, but the Baptist church was not established by Jesus and does not resemble the early church’s order of Mass. Jesus established one church and that was the Catholic Church. If you study early church history, you’ll come across what the early church was actually like. If you want to have access to all of Jesus’ teachings, it is through the teachings of the Catholic Church and the Catholic interpretation of the Bible.
the Catholic Church has completelt left the faith. Pope Frankie boy is showing what orthodox ans protestants knew centures ago about idol worshipping. I dont hate the Catholic churchC many great saints/martyrs ans literature stemmed from catholics and i thibk God does his works through pious cathokics, but c'mon how can you look at rome and what frankiee boy isndoing and thibk "this is it"
@@pouffy149 why do you defend homosexuality and worshiping other religions? thats all the Catholic church under francis and the whole Second vatican council since has been promoting
I don't understand why pastor jimenez said you can't legislate Christianity. Why shouldn't you? What's wrong with the laws of the old testament? It should be enforced into a christian state.
I think he is meaning you cant force people to convert to christianity. Because the bible says people have a choice and true christianity is interwoven with liberty.
@@elianmakdsi8908 E•Lie`n_Make•di.sease`d Doctrine try to Sound) True. Lol' we know you hate The "True" exact, Image of the Invisible God. You little Heretic' Gnostic' /Iconoclast"ick* Blab'tist Reformned/Deformed' Protest•ant 🐜 Evil'jelly•called quasi so-called' C_risk`tian" in danger of Hellfire" 🔥 Damnation! Unfortunately' for you_heretics' He is fully God' & fully Man.... But your ignorant of The Scriptures" Koine Greek.'
@@elianmakdsi8908 Hahaha' there is many Scriptures that Refute your little Anti`Incarnation" The Word was made Flesh' and dwelt among Us, Heresy' etc. Etc. etc... But because you are a little Reformned /Deformed' Protestant' so-called' C_risk-tian" holding to a 450 to 500 year Old' *New" Man-made tradition" you don't know your "Twisting' of the Scriptures and erroneous understanding and miss-interpretation' /re-interpretation and Non Authoritative' use of Them will lead you into Damnation' 🔥 quickly.' Hahaha' I know you're Protestant' so-called' history it's boring' you see we know where all' your little false Teaching's /doctrine) and heresy come and Came From. Plot twist your not even really a CHRISTIAN' you are heterodox' not Orthodox' Christian +:+:+ we have a tradition and history of over 1,900 year's
@@elianmakdsi8908 And by the way your attempt to interpret and expound on Scripture means nothing to us Orthodox' Christian believers. You have absolutely no authority to teach or to preach! To anyone first figure out which of you over 7,000 different fake/ false' Man-made so-called' C_risk`ian demon-izations" (Denominations' is the true and Correct one.) hahaha Hahaha' oh I forgot you're Heretical' view that the Church is invisible" keeps you from finding that One TRUE Church +:+:+ The Body of Christ ...instead you' like all the little divi•dead Splinter' Sect's have to Twist' history and grab at Straw's like all you fake! /false' Man-made little Sectarian' groups /movements Organization's and so-called' Non-denominational' "C-hurt_us that splintered' and broke of one another only to become another Sect' denomination' and have the echo's of one or many' of the Protestant' Reformers=deformers of the One True Church. You are nothing but a bunch of little Rebellious goat's 🐐 🐏 a bunch of little devil's The Protestant' revolt" was revolting' it was a "Rebellion" and a Scattering" of the Sheep' 🐑 to the Slaughter" The Reformation Devided Western Europe especially' and has lead to (Chaos & Confusion) Sectarian'ism Par-Excellence" which is nothing more than a Smorgasbord' of all types of Heresy'
@@elianmakdsi8908 But because you don't know anything about Official" Church history you read a Revisionist Altered tampered with false Protestant' Slant/on history. Hahaha we know what you do and what you did. And by the way go to my channel and watch my entire playlist" Lol' have fun watching your boring lame..fake little false his-story' and your many.. Many' Many" versions of what the Church is according to "Babble-Blabbtist' and Mormon's/Moron's Unitarians/Unit-arians so-called Jehovah's Witness etc. It's a good laugh. But I have read your garbage history' and Protestant' Reformers" they were and are Heretics' with Lies' pepperd with a little bit of Truth, here and there. Hahaha"
Constantine is the one the instituted Sunday as the the day of worship honoring the Sun God Christian believer keep the sabbath day holy as we know Saturday
wrong, you should not be listening to the SDA cult, rather get your doctrine right from the bible the disciples in book of Acts are gathering specially in the first day of the week, which today is Sunday
It's a revisionist Reformed deformed Protestant/ Sectarian slant on so-called Church history according to this Heretical Man-made Sect. That's what it really is a grabbing at Straw's
Jesus told His followers to heal the sick. Are you obeying His onstruction or ignoring it? Or worse yet, are you trying to replace it through a belief system all your own?
The most reliable Christian documentary for me.
Thank God almighty that I am Baptist Christian from Tunisia. In fact, I was a Muslim and I believe in Christ Jesus as Lord and saviour a year ago.
Thanks be to God
I too my brother...he came to me dec17 of last year....holy holy holy forever, the great I AM, lord of hosts, glory be to God Jesus Christ
praise the Lord my brother! that is so beautiful and amazing to hear. our Lord is Good. may the king of kings and Lord of Lords Christ Jesus bless you and keep you my brothers
Except it’s not lol.
@@zealousideal this video was terribly researched. It’s cult propaganda. Very sad.
@zealousideal that's not what we teach my friend...Maybe that one pastor did to you .....we go off the bible and not once does it say to say this one time and you're good...so not all are like this...keep moving closer to God as his word instructured us to do...pretty simple brother...even it's biblical or it's ain't....constantly battling woth the peace from our lord
Happy to know the History of my Fundamental Baptist Church.
Too bad it doesn’t go all the way back to Jesus. Early church history shows the church Jesus established was the Catholic Church.
The great schism?
The Bishop of Rome (the Pope) had a schism with the Orthodox Church sometime around 1000 AD. The orthodox didn’t believe one bishop should be supreme above others.
Before that, there was only one church, Jesus’ church.
@@Powerranger-le4up Incorrect. For instance, there's no evidence that Peter was ever over Rome, and Peter accepts Paul's rebuke. Paul was over gentiles, while as far as we know, Peter worked mainly on Jews.
The first mention of Peter being in Rome was something like 3-500 years after his death.
Plus, Catholicism, especially the polity, came about thanks to Romans trying to legislate the church, not because of Jesus.
@@SeanWinters why do you lie??
Ignatius of Antioch
“Not as Peter and Paul did, do I command you [Romans]. They were apostles, and I am a convict” (Letter to the Romans 4:3 [A.D. 110]).
Dionysius of Corinth
“You [Pope Soter] have also, by your very admonition, brought together the planting that was made by Peter and Paul at Rome and at Corinth; for both of them alike planted in our Corinth and taught us; and both alike, teaching similarly in Italy, suffered martyrdom at the same time” (Letter to Pope Soter [A.D. 170], in Eusebius, History of the Church 2:25:8).
Irenaeus
“Matthew also issued among the Hebrews a written Gospel in their own language, while Peter and Paul were evangelizing in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church” (Against Heresies, 3, 1:1 [A.D. 189]).
“But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the succession of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the succession of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With that church [of Rome], because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition” (ibid., 3, 3, 2).
“The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus. Paul makes mention of this Linus in the letter to Timothy [2 Tim. 4:21]. To him succeeded Anacletus, and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was chosen for the episcopate. He had seen the blessed apostles and was acquainted with them. It might be said that he still heard the echoes of the preaching of the apostles and had their traditions before his eyes. And not only he, for there were many still remaining who had been instructed by the apostles. In the time of Clement, no small dissension having arisen among the brethren in Corinth, the church in Rome sent a very strong letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to peace and renewing their faith. . . . To this Clement, Evaristus succeeded . . . and now, in the twelfth place after the apostles, the lot of the episcopate [of Rome] has fallen to Eleutherius. In this order, and by the teaching of the apostles handed down in the Church, the preaching of the truth has come down to us” (ibid., 3, 3, 3).
Gaius
“It is recorded that Paul was beheaded in Rome itself, and Peter, likewise, was crucified, during the reign [of the Emperor Nero]. The account is confirmed by the names of Peter and Paul over the cemeteries there, which remain to the present time. And it is confirmed also by a stalwart man of the Church, Gaius by name, who lived in the time of Zephyrinus, bishop of Rome. This Gaius, in a written disputation with Proclus, the leader of the sect of Cataphrygians, says this of the places in which the remains of the aforementioned apostles were deposited: ‘I can point out the trophies of the apostles. For if you are willing to go to the Vatican or to the Ostian Way, you will find the trophies of those who founded this Church’” (Disputation with Proclus [A.D. 198] in Eusebius, Church History 2:25:5).
John THE BAPTIST. 😊
Praise God pastor ❤Blessed to be a baptist... And god bless you more...
Proud to be a Independent Fundamental Baptist! Im a New IFB listener and a Old IFB Church Goer!
I was baptized this year.
Thank you brother, my wife and I are going through discipleship right now and am learning alot. This really helps reinforcing what i've learned. My wife and I were baptized last Sunday. Praise God!
For the love of God if you want truth don't listen to this trash.
If you belong to a protestant religion at least know true history and this isn't it.
Powerful!
Fascinating and interesting documentary praise be to god
It's important to know what you believe and why you believe it,. It's good to know real BIBLE believers History praise THE LORD
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THIS. I LEFT THE GIANT DENOMINATION BAPTIST BECAUSE OF THIER FAILURED TO OBEY OR DIDNT PRACTICE THIS BAPTIST DISTINCTIVE ANYMORE AND THEY ALLOWED THE WORLDLY SYSTEM IN THEIR CHURCH. I BELIEVED THE TRUE CHURCH FROM JESUS CHRIST PRACTICES. AS A RETIRED GOV. WORKER AND MY 7 YRS IN MINISTRY AS A PASTOR I WAS HAPPY BECAUSE I KNEW SOME CHURCHES OUTHERE CONTINUE THIS PRACTICES UNTIL NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITS GIVE ME A COURAGE BY YOUR MESSAGE TO CONTINUE SERVING THE LORD SPECIALLY IN OUR NEW OUTREACHES. MARANATHA! TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
Exactly. So many churches have turned away from Christ nowadays and the gospel to fables of men and other nonsense. Some even go against the Bible and support gay marriage or even ordain gay clergy. It’s a shame what has happened in the U.S. and western hemisphere.
*_God Bless_*
Love the truth
I'm from the purest form of Baptist today
what church is that?
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch Landmark Baptist Bride believers
Thank you to Pastor Anderson and Pastor Jiminez. For the dissenters; Do not judge the Word by your Hollywood outlook, instead be honest with yourself. Do the Laws and guidelines of Christ help or harm someone who follows them? Do they contribute to a healthier and safer society, or are the wages of sin truly death? You can find the answers by being honest with yourself and searching the Eternal Word of God. All the best.
Amen ✝
Praise God Pastor ❤ Blessed to be a Baptist
Helpful video, thank you! I'm not for nor against "Baptist." I was raised Roman Catholic and now "Protestant." I was born and raised in Sac Town and now live in Houston. Blessings everyone. 🙏
we need more baptists in this world
Then current Baptists need to get more humble.
Thank you so much❤
Amen! Precisely and biblicaly supported. To God be the glory!
Fantastic video and message. God bless
This is a very great and timely documentary! Thank you Brother!
i just mirrored from orig team stated in description..
I am thankful to be Baptist Because I believed the King James Bible
You believe the King James Bible? Not the Lord Jesus Christ? What of the at least ten different revisions of the King. James Bible with over 20000 differences do you believe? Also what did people believe before 1611? Isn't the gospel about Christ and him crucified? Not some archaic imperfect uninspired translation of scripture called the King James Bible
I’m a Baptist too❤
Fundamental Baptist 🙏🙏Thank God ...
Proud to be IFB
Amen. Me too. ❤
Thanks for uploading this !
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:26
You must be a sda and can't rightly divide Scripture. Do you know that James was an Apostle to the Jews. Jews need a sign the Scripture says. When we are saved by grace we keep the commandments because we love Christ who died for us. It's because of love and not work. No one ever got saved by works. No one. The law was given to the lawless and not the righteous. It's common sense
@@georgeo785 You think God and Jesus are the same person. I will be taking no lectures from a fool
@@InfiniteNallidge they are different person but they are one in being a God
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:
not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.”
~ 1 Corinthians 1:17
Baptism is like an outward profession that we have trusted Christ as our Lord and Saviour. Old person is dead, buried and then risen again to newness and eternal life. We identify with Christ. Buried is under the water and not sprinkled.
The Believers in antiquity never called themselves Christians.
They never called themselves Baptist.
There is only one Church in the Bible.
Romans 16:16
hahahaha
you should learn basic english and language first so that you'll not be fooled manalo cult
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
Latin Greek Aramaic Chaden Hebrew
And English, my languages
Learn your history there's no such thing as a Baptist Church in the Bible.
You might want to check with the newspaper editor in Holland to see how the Baptist Church got its name.
Or check with your founder John Smyte
1607 AD.
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians 89-117AD
For, since you are subject to the bishop as to Jesus Christ, you appear to me to live not after the manner of men, but according to Jesus Christ, who died for us, in order, by believing in His death, you may escape from death. It is therefore necessary that, as you indeed do, so without the bishop you should do nothing, but should also be subject to the presbytery, as to the apostle of Jesus Christ, who is our hope, in whom, if we live, we shall [at last] be found. It is fitting also that the deacons, as being [the ministers] of the mysteries of Jesus Christ, should in every respect be pleasing to all. For they are not ministers of meat and drink, but servants of the Church of God. They are bound, therefore, to avoid all grounds of accusation [against them], as they would do fire.
I was given an assignment to do two research papers on culture behaviors this is one of the cultural behaviors that I picked I’m also going to cite work and quotes from it so excited 😆 God is good!
Amen!!!
a heresy out of a heresy ....
A very good explanation of Baptist history, but Pastor Jimenez's comments re incense are odd. Zachariah, the father of John the Baptist, had the lot of burning incense in the Temple. The golden censer was in the Holy of Holies. Angels offer incense at the Throne of God. Lk 1:8 Rev 8:3, 5 Heb 9:4 There is ample mention of burning incense in a thurible or censer throughout the Bible! Why would the pastor make fun of this, speaking as if he doesn't even know what this is? This greatly takes away from his testimony. Also, there were many holy bishops known for their Godly life and miracles who were present at Nicaea. I would like to see a more in depth, honest discussion of the early Church period, holding to the Truth without unnecessarily disparaging that which is Biblical.
what exactly did he said/comment about incense?
He said: "why the Roman Catholic does all these weird, like Eastern mys(?)...there's like all these...candles...when you go to their funerals they've got I don't know like some bag, like vacuum bag that they're dusting out....." The Eastern Orthodox use incense at every single church service, the priest or deacon censing the people as a blessing. "Let my prayer rise before Thee as incense set before Thee" Ps 141:2. The way he speaks is as if he doesn't understand the concept of censing or offering incense in worship, which is shown not only in the Old Testament, but also in the New. This article illustrates it all very well: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_offering. The question is not so much about the continued use of incense in New Testament worship as about why Pastor Jimenez would speak in such a disparaging way as if ignorant of the mention throughout the Bible of its use. To make a solid, honest and good defence of the Baptist faith it a disservice when any pastor (and I've heard many others do the same) simply speaks almost mockingly about a given thing without going more seriously into the history and theology of why it is an aberration, false doctrine, error or 'tradition of men'.
Thanks for mentioning it. I agree with you.
Everything was well done except that unnecessary and lack of information on the subject
Correct. Incense has been used since the OT and is mentioned in Revelation as being symbolic of our prayers... you mentioned early Christian Bishops - does your Church have bishops?
I was raised Baptist.
I was baptized at 13.
My brothers and sisters, Baptists are a part of a greater movement called Protestantism.
Protestants believe in Sola Scriputra, it is Latin, it means, the “Word alone”.
Martin Luther had this at the center of his reasoning for breaking away from the Catholic Church.
But as a Baptist, I learned in my adulthood that there is the Church Christ’s original Apostles founded, and it is called the Orthodox Church!
It comes before Protestants or Catholics, and here is the thing, they are the church that put the New Testament into pages!
Truly, I believe in the Lord’s word, and Christ has a bride, and it is the church, and that is the Orthodox Church that was founded by Christ’s apostle’s, and they transcribed Jesus’ ministry into pages.
Trust me, you can fact check me by researching the church’s history.
If the Apostle Paul walked among us today, he’d recognize an Orthodox service, but a Baptist service would confuse him.
Much love, trade potlucks for fasting, God Bless!
Same brother!
Go lick dead feet or whatever
Baptist ❤
Your history is so off that a person can't take the documentary seriously. Sad really.
What was wrong?
What's really interesting is the difference between Calvinist and free will baptists, and how Calvinists keep attempting to, for lack of better word, "slither" their way Into power within the baptist world... And what's even more interesting is that Calvinists used to be the majority of baptists, at least in the English tradition.
Once saved always saved came from John Calvin.
I will be doing a 6 part rebuttal on this video, today I will be reviewing the obvious errors and lies this untruthful origination spreads.
4:07 There lineage does not go back to the Apostles or Christ. The majority of the groups they claim to be Baptist were either closer to Catholicism or a type of Gnosticism/Manichaeism, I will be posting more information of some of the groups when the are mentioned and will be doing a comparison of their beliefs to the modern day Baptist beliefs.
5:51 It goes to show the incompetence of some of these "Pastors" if they only thought through some of the things they said I would have a little more respect for them. his claim which can be proven to be historically wrong is that he is claiming that in 30 AD there were New Testament Church's, really New Testament Church's in 30 AD. its very likely that not a LETTER of the New Testament was even written at this time and the Church was functioning solely on Oral Tradition.
9:30 you say that Christian was a derogatory term used to mock them and I would agree BUT I wanted to point out at which Church they was First called Christians and that was Antioch.
the story of Acts 11 took place about 43-44 AD and Peter was there for about 7 years before Going to Rome. His successor was Saint Evodius who then died in about 69 AD then Saint Ignatius became Bishop at Antioch. this is troubling because St Ignatius is in no way, size, shape or form Baptist but closely resembles what is taught in the Catholic Church. You can read his writing's that we are very sure he did write though their are some that are falsely acclaimed to him. There are seven that most scholars agree was written by him and they are The Epistle to the Ephesians, The Epistle to the Magnesians, The Epistle to the Trallians, The Epistle to the Romans, The Epistle to the Philadelphians, The Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, The Epistle to Polycarp, a bishop of Smyrna. During the beginning of the reformation many of his writings were claimed to be false because they are so Catholic, Later Textual Criticism strongly favors the writings are authentically his.
17:07 the Council of Nicaea was called to combat the Arian Heresy it was NOT this conspiratorial meeting these Men want you to believe. if you want to see what was discussed at the Council of Nicaea we have the complete Work of the Council. The university of California at Northridge puts it this was "The full texts of the 20 Canons issued by the Council survive, as well as ancient summaries of the texts, and the famous Nicene Creed." so nothing conspiratorial, just lack of investigation or pure misinformation done by these Men, we will be charitable and just call them ignorant rather then call them deceitful though the latter MAY very well be.
17:23 they were called Heretics because that is what they was. they denied the Deity of Christ. that's Heresy.
17:58 I would like to ask this man what on heavens earth would make him think Waldensians or Paulicians would be banned at the Council of Nicaea? THEY DIDNT EVEN EXIST YET!!! Paulicians were founded the mid 7th century 300 years after Nicaea happened the Waldensians didn't come along until 100 years after the Great Schism. this is utter foolishness and Parroting at its finest. well what about the Albigensian's? nope that's even farther away that's the 12th-13th century, what about the Anabaptist? now at this time any well informed Baptist successionist will be biting at the bit to correct me so when it comes along to the Anabaptist its important to know that Anabaptist was a 15th century Group But there was Groups before that that was labeled as Anabaptist because the word just means rebaptizer. so the Church grouped all the Anabaptist as 1 because they all rebaptized. that DOES NOT MEAN these are the same Group. they are VERY different. one quote used to support Baptist Sucessionism is a quote by Cardinal Stanislaus Hosius but a later critic of the quote proves exactly what I said, that Anabaptist as a term can mean many different groups it does not mean these groups would be anywhere near what the Anabaptist of the 15th century was.
18:53 do you have ANY evidence of that? the reason I am rebutting that in this way is because I know the answer is no.
welp we are 20 minutes in and already lies as expected. I will be doing the next 20 minutes next week the Lord be willing. its ashamed that i am doing such a thorough rebuttal of this but if this is what The Lord has put on my heart to do then I will be obedient.
fire comment. cant wait for the video
Excellent summary, especially for me since I could only make it through 20 minutes of this. I'm Eastern Orthodox and I found this to be more like satire versus a legitimate documentary. Someone should explain to them where the Bible actually came from, and that it would have been absurd to wait until adulthood to Baptize someone! That doesn't even address the other dozens of inaccuracies and revisionist history shown here.
@@ibosleyYour comment is influenced by your foundation. When do you attend Church. The information here is accurate and its on public
90 % of so called Christians will say their saved through faith, but when they explain salvation, it's anything, but faith. They've been deceived so long, they are blind. All you have to do is look up definitions and believe God's Word. I don't care if the so called pastor, is dad, he's not worth going to hell over. Call him out 😊
Heavy stuff...very eye opening.
Better download it before it's gone.
I’m interested in learning more from this perspective, are there any primary or even secondary sources you can point to in support of this view?
yes those are in public domain.
you just need to compare sources and what the bible teaches.
there's no one source that i would say as the one most reliable other than the bible.
independent sources are great
Books that might help based on your comment on my comment.
Please check my comment
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch nevermind. It appears to have been deleted. I wonder why.???
Great question. Do we have historical proof of Baptist people living during the time of Jesus, Peter,Paul in the 1st century AD?
Anabaptist is not a derogatory term. Mennonites and Hutterites are still known as Anabaptist.
I mean if Baptist came from this group of believers Paulicians, Albigensians, Waldensians etc. Their doctrine not aligned with the Bible.
what baptist belief is not aligned with the bible?
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch the trinity and once saved always saved are just 2 of them
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchall of them
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch The fact if a church traces their history and subsequently beliefs to these groups, then clearly one's doctrine is unbiblical, unless of course the demiurge is real??
Well look at that...I'm baptist.
What historical sources contain the Baptist groups in the early century ADs? I have heard of some of the groups mentioned but only recently.
None. This "documentary" is full of lies.
@@anonymoususer3496 cause roman catholics killed them and burned any evidence of their existence
Zero. It’s pure delusional.
@@ryanpadgett2549 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who are the preachers (and sermons) at 1:10 and 2:30? Would love to hear those sermons.
Their names were given in the beginning
“I believe in pastoral authority. I don’t answer to anyone but God and I have complete autonomy of my church!”
You mean like the Pope right? Interesting 🤔
far jump there but anyways, suit yourself if you don't understand the difference, at least you've been warned.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
Head of the local church on earth, answers to no one but God, can do whatever they want inside the church…. Explain to me how that’s not like a miniature Pope?
@@ryanpadgett2549
don't nitpick the man, he just meant that compared to cults like roman catholics which have this elaborate chain of commands which is not biblical, baptists have just what the bible teach, that the pastor answers to God only when it comes to ministry related things.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
Jehovah witnesses claim that they are “just following what the Bible says” too, and they don’t believe in the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, that hell is real, and only a 144,000 go to heaven.
Scripture apart from the teaching of the Church is useless.
Baptists have just made themselves little popes and interpret the Scriptures in ways it suits them…. Like every other sect.
Btw, that Bible you cling to was complied and declared canon by the Catholic Church.
Anyways, enjoy your watered down Christianity 🥳
@@ryanpadgett2549 Pretty simple, if a pastor becomes evil, you can join a different church and not be "excommunicated". If you hate the pope, you can't leave the Catholic church. The pope can be as evil as he wants, Catholics can't go to a different church with a different pope, meanwhile baptists can find a new pastor.
This is why westborough (a Calvinist "Baptist" church) was always so small. Men do not hold the keys to heaven, Jesus does.
“They’re emptying a vacuum bag… you don’t get that eastern mysticism from the word of God”
Exodus 30: 34 And the Lord said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight:
35 And thou shalt make it a perfume, a confection after the art of the apothecary, tempered together, pure and holy:
36 And thou shalt beat some of it very small, and put of it before the testimony in the tabernacle of the congregation, where I will meet with thee: it shall be unto you most holy.
Let us remember that Christianity is not a Western construct, but a truth originating in the Middle East.
Reformed deformed Protestant'ism is Sectarianism par-excellence.
Burning incense in the Tabernacle or Temple is not the same thing as burning stuff in a hanging ball above the dead bodies.
We ARE the temples, we don't have need of this, this is Old Testament ritual, which we don't need. Conversely, plenty pagans do this.
Baptists did not come from the Apostles. That is the Catholic Church with evidence from the Church Fathers who knew the apostles.
no that is a lie
where is your proof
catholic teachings are found opposing the bible in many areas, how could they be the church that the apostles formed
avoid the RC lies
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch Read the Didache lol
What is the name of the first preacher at 1:08 ?... he has an amazing passion. Want to find out who he is 🙏
I think it's Curtis Hutson
I agree with 99% of everything in this video. I am an independent fundamental KJB only pastor. However, as is often typical with Stephen Anderson, the pastor who made this video sadly has the very same unChristlike spirit when he preaches. People do not appreciate being talked down to (this is what Catholicism has also down for years). One does not have to speak in a hateful demeaning spirit in order to get their point across. If your desire is to win Catholics to Christ and Protestants to Christ speaking with hateful speeches not going to do that.
are you knowingly and willing forgetting how the Lord (and pretty much all true biblical preachers) did preach hard against false teachers and false doctrines and hypocrite liars?
are the biblical preachers 'hateful' for you?
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch steven anderson isn't a true biblical preacher. he's a con artist who diverts you from the words he's saying by the way he's saying them, hence loud tones, screaming, laughing, etc. then he covers it up with hard preaching lol
Love this video! Makes me proud to be Baptist
There's some inaccurate things said about pentecostal and Assembly of God churches however that I wish they'd researched more
what would that be, pls specify and share if you may
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch The generalization of what pentecostals believe. In my town alone the pentecostal church teaches once saved always saved to site just one example of the top of my head. The assembly of god here also denies the apostles Creed & does not accept being catholic or part of the "universal" church. Also the pentecostal church here does not teach "word of faith" doctrine but in this video that's mentioned as a teaching of thiers ( 54;03) . Those are just the ones that come to mind right off, like I said to much generalization of those two groups, they're not all the same across the country
@@Yelladog78
yes i think you're correct but i think that is too much to ask for a documentary about baptists
i mean obviously there are these differences between 'christian' groups and too many also to cover in one breath so, it is what it is. people will have to dig deep to learn the nuances of the subject.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch 👍🏻
@@Yelladog78 it’s extremely rare for a Pentecostal church to believe faith alone
Be very careful with joining up with the "new" independent baptist movement. There are some major issues with them.
like what for example?
Why do Baptist's yell loudly so much?
not all and not all the time, but there's time to do that, as done by biblical prophets
“Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.”
Isaiah 58:1
Where in the bible can i find baptism after salvation?
acts 8:37 kjv
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
Would Acts 8:36-38 be an example of what Jesus said in Mark 16:16?
I always feel ashamed to be Baptist. Even here in the "Bible Belt" people don't like to call themselves Baptist anymore. It's like a bad word
but first you must consider 'why' and who made it so...
great documentary...
In Acts and the epistles references to "the Jews" is referring to Jewish leaders. The leadership had something to lose, influence. The average Jew did not persecute Christianity. Many of them became Christian.
This propaganda is literally the worst propaganda I’ve ever seen. Wow. Do you think people are this ignorant!?! 😂😂
how so?
Because It’s all lies. Either you guys are totally ignorant of church history, or you’re deliberately lying on purpose. Almost everything you’re saying here is lies and twisted truths.
For example, IF the Roman Catholic Church started during Constantine, then how was their Popes and Saints going back to the time of Christ???? There are literally Saints, writings, documents, bishops, and popes that go all the way back to 30 A.D.
😂
You also had the Orthodox too.. except it was one Church combined. It split in 1054 AD., so your dates are also wrong, which proves my point. And technically, it wasn’t a clean split in exactly 1054. It happened over the course of hundreds of years slowly overtime actually (and it was for many many reasons). It was Not just two or three reasons. You guys should have me giving these lectures. I could do 10 times a better job and actually be accurate. Where do you get these pastors? They need to go back to seminary.
Wow. So you’re proving it is propaganda by deleting my comments explaining it.
@@zealousidealyou should report this video for disinformation
Landmarkism was a lie invented by James Milton Carroll that slanders the Catholic Church and the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Church by extension out of the realisation that there was no historical legacy for the baptists prior to the 1500s
Why do some Protestants want to insist baptists are Protestant? Also do some follow creeds?
same reason why calvinists want people to belong to either calvinists or armenian
it's a false dichotomy which gives people no good choice and it's too much for them to actually have the right church.
2:48 note
Doesn't the Eastern Orthodox church also use incense as well? I thought it was from the Old Testament priesthood. The Catholic church was probably already doing that before the schism. Not only that, the EO is very devoted to Mary as well, and the saints.
correct, they are very much the same false 'church'
Yes, just as Revelation says our prayers raise to Heaven like incense - so the Catholic Church (and Orthodox Churches since 1054) have been using incense since before the Bible was canonized in 392
As the son of a Baptist minister and educator I am still very puzzled about the racism embedded within the Southern Baptist convention followers as different from the Northern Baptist Convention. How this can be accepted and not condemned by the supposedly Baptist true faith is a problem for me to this day. Is it any wonder that the Sunday hour of 11-12 has been called the most racial segregated hour in the United States. Shame on this and not at all Christian.
First. Why would it be advantageous for Constantine to side with a religion so popularly hated when he’s the leader of THE world power? I think it’s strange that the speaker adopts a mocking tone and loaded language when describing the dream that completely redirects Constantine with no obvious motive or gain.
Second, why were church leaders called bishops and why did the baptist religion change that tradition?
What historical basis have we for believing or knowing that there were Baptists that did not show up to the meeting with Constantine and what their beliefs and motives were for not doing so?
The mysticism in the Roman Catholic Church comes from the old testament that does speak of incense and other Catholic traditions.
Why weren’t the good men that came out of the Catholic Church attending the baptist churches that you claim coexisted throughout this historic timeline?
Where’s the proof historically of this “true” church? If there is any, please provide this.
Please Help me I Believe Jesus Is The Son and God The Son of The Holy Trinity I Believe Jesus Shed His Blood and Died in my place to Pay for All my Sins He Was Buried Then 3 Days Later Jesus Arose From The Dead!!! But I am struggling with some Sins that I honestly don’t know how to quit I hate my Sins But I genuinely don’t know how to stop them Am I still Saved because of my faith in Jesus or am I Not Saved because of my Sins? Am I born again because of my faith in Jesus or is there something more I need to do? Thank you for All your Help and Time God Bless you
if you believed the Lord Jesus then you're already saved, and once saved, always saved
all Christians struggle with some sin
those sins should be dealt with to have better ministry and better relationship with God and His people.
doesn't have to be a salvation issue.
if you still have questions and like help, pls message us on our fb page, thanks.
Hey the tower bridge!
I found this interesting (I have IFB roots) but lost interest after the few references to John Calvin as some sort of good example of a model christian. The claim is either disingenuous to historical truth or entirely ignorant of just how truly horrible he was.
good for you
Wow i come here for peace and i see not pulling your own spear out
The Christians who were persecuted were the Roman Catholics. The christians who fought the early heresies of the wrong gospel were the Roman Catholics. The christians who wrote all the creeds and assembled the Bible were the Roman Catholics. Time to come home to mother church. We need to stand together as Christ asked us.
you're in the wrong side of history, slap yourself in the face for your benefit and wake up!
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchwe as christians don’t slap ourselves. Not sure what you Baptist’s do.
. Really? Where did you find this slush info?
You should get your money back.
@@xtraordinairartist9469 wait you really don’t know this is a fact? Or just trolling?
They have renamed pope. No longer Vicar of Christ, Now bishop of Rome. Talking Christ out of his fake title is scary because in end days they will take Christ out to u nite all religions. They all recognize God but not our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Is this docu. Believe in landmarkism or baptist brider belief?
No
both are wrong and even foolish beliefs there
Good grief Roger slow down. It's not a race, and in some places I can't even understand what you're saying because you're talking too fast. Used car salesmen talk like this, or the guy reading the disclaimers on radio ads. If I didn't know any better I'd think he was coked up.
This guy just said one can commit adultery and remain saved!
1 Cor 6:9-10
“ Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters,👉🏾 nor adulterers👈🏾, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners 👉🏾👉🏾will inherit the kingdom of God.”👈🏾👈🏾
This is an embarrassment documentary devoid of truth
Catholic crying in the comment section
This video has so many errors I wouldn’t even know where to begin and I’m a Baptist. You don’t have to rewrite church history to be a Baptist. I truly hope this video isn’t the only church history that people watching learn but, sadly, for many it probably will be. People believe what they want. Especially when it comes to religion.
what error
can you start at one?
enlighten us
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
Take every point you made about the CC and start there.
That's how many errors are in your vid.
😂😂😂😂
1:26:22 I'm sorry, are you saying that repentance is not necessary for salvation???? bruh
need to specify and define repentance first
in "salvation of the soul" context:
Repentance = Correct - turn from unbelief to belief
Repent of all sins as requirement to salvation of the soul ---- this is wrong
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch there is trouble in reconciling this to Christian worldview and Holy Scripture.
The word "repent" *μετανοέω* means to change purpose, it is holistic. Meaning you change your purpose to that of God. Salvation includes becoming a new creation (2Corinthians 5:17) and offering your life and everything in it, including your actions and purpose/telos of being, as a living sacrifice to God (Romans 12:1-2).
Acts 3:19 "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord." Acts 17:30-31 explicitly links repentance to salvation. There is no picture of salvation given in the New Testament that does not involve a total transformation of being.
@@willh9104You are extrapolating what repentance is. It simply means a change of mind. A change in what you are trusting to save you. You should try it soon and get saved
Biblical Baptist do not believe in replacement / covenant theology
you may do your labels all you want but the bible teaches it
Can whoever made this share references?
as in sources? they don't have any credible ones to give you-
YHWH is God, Jesus is the son and Holy Spirit is God's active force. Trinity is a pagan as hell.
while i agree with much of this video, it does seem strange that it links Baptists to the Anabaptists and claims we came from them, then at about 46:47 he denounces the Amish for believing in works, BUT the Amish ARE Anabaptists! the Anabaptists (Amish, Mennonites, etc) were not the spiritual ancestors of Baptists. the Anabaptists rarely baptized by immersion, tho they did baptize only adults. many Menonnites are coming much closer to being Baptists, but they are not our forefathers
Consider the timelines when you're referring to those groups
I mean for example, anabaptists of 500AD is not exactly the same as anabaptists of 2023..
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch well I do know that the Anabaptists at the time of the Reformation did not baptize by immersion and that was over 500 yrs ago. Perhaps the video shouldve made a distinction, because anyone who has studied history knows that when you use the word "anabaptists" it refers to amish/mennonites. Strictly speaking, anyone who "baptizes again" could be called "anabaptist" so in that case mormons and jw's could be lumped into that word. also the Waldensians and Paulicians had some heretical beliefs. Waldensian churches still exist in Italy as I have visited one. The undertone of the video implies that there MUST be a "succession" of churches going back to Christ for Baptists to be valid. However, if ANYONE starts a New Testament church based on the qualifications of scripture, it is a valid church even tho it did not come from another Baptist church. Church successionism is just as faulty as the catholic doctrine of apostolic succession. One doesnt need to prove their church descends from other churches to be valid as Landmarkism teaches. "Spiritual Landmarkism" is the way to go on this.
Baptist re-baptize people who are according to them falsely baptized, now I wonder, based on what Scripture is that done, as we never seen anyone in the Bible re-water baptized. If this were an option, Jesus would sure put that in the Scripture.
there was no catholic church back then that baptise babies so, if any, it would be very few that needs rebaptism
No need go re Baptism we can baptise from childwood also speritual Baptism is the important things which all the Christian should no that secound Baptism means belive in jesuschrist
Pagan holidays. Many. Not biblical. Also Greek priests can marry. Montanans l believe is another group.
If you believe in replacement / covenant theology you are not a Baptist.
the bible teaches it so you don't get to choose/label who is baptist and who's not
#admendment1
I totally disagree that the name "Christian" as a derogatory term. God would not let Gentiles name his New Testament people and the language used in Acts 11:26 "χρηματίσαι" means it was given by the inspiration of God. Isaiah 56:5 foretold that God would give his people a new name and it makes no sense that God would let Syrians label his people. Nero's second wife, it is said, had Jewish sympathies and that may be one reason why Nero did what he did. Moreover, Christian persecution, under Simon Bar Kokhba continued all the way up to the disappearance of the Jewish State in A.D.136.
it was a derogatory term BACK THEN...
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch Ok. If you say so. But not in my world. Good day.
God created your mind and your religion should not ask you to not use it. If your religious leaders can’t make the faith they are teaching you make sense, it’s ok to ask questions and seek answers ❤ Talking quickly and using false logic and speaking disrespectfully of other ideologies is a very poor way of attempting to rationalize or explain your beliefs.
what's the false logic?
well if other beliefs are really false, should it be respected?
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchYou bring up a point. False beliefs shouldn’t be respected, which is why I am reporting this documentary to CZcams for misinformation.
What’s ironic is how you bash the Pentecostal (I’m not Pentecostal I’m leaning Catholic) for not believing faith alone because they believe you have to be baptized but yet you say that unless you are immersed it’s not a valid baptism?
That’s kinda a dumb self refuting idea.
no it's just properly putting things in their place
understand that 2 different context below are considered and so the apparent contradiction to you
1. Context 1 - salvation of the soul - water baptism not required
2. Context 2 - outside of 'salvation of the soul' context - water baptism still not required for salvation of the soul but is commanded for some other thing, i.e. to follow righteousness expected of the Lord for His children, for rewards and such
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch as a leaning Catholic (A Church that actually can trace its lineage to the apostles through Ignatius of Antioch, Clement of Rome, Polycarp of Smyrna). I would side that Baptism is a sacrament and that God has bound himself to the sacraments BUT is not bound by them. In other words you can go to heaven without being baptized but that doesn’t negate that Baptism saves.
All early church fathers taught unanimously baptismal regeneration. The Paulicians were NOT baptist but heretics who are in hell if they did not repent. It goes to show how the idea of baptist successionism is a sorry put together idea that’s of the devil.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.”
Acts 2:38-39 KJV
When St. Peter said the promise of baptism is for children, the word “children” (from the Greek teknon) also includes infants. This same word, teknon,is used later in Acts 21:21 to describe the circumcision of eight-day-old infants.
The Greek word for “household,” oikos, refers to all the members of a family, adults as well as infants and children. The Book of Acts speaks of whole households being baptized, so any infants and children who belonged to these households would have been included.
St. Paul baptizes Lydia with “her household” (16:15); the entire household of Cornelius (see 10:48; 11:14); the Philippian jailer “and all his family” (16:33); and the “household of Stephanus” (1 Cor 1:16). In none of these accounts is there ever any indication that infants and children are excluded from baptism.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch also I’m almost done with writing a rebuttal to the first 30 minutes of this video and am looking forward to demolishing your lies. You have strayed from True Christianity and hold unbiblical doctrine’s such as Sola Scriptura I have no more respect for Baptist then I do for Jehovah’s witnesses and Mormon’s. I will be posting my rebuttals with the time stamps in which they correspond to, to be sure everything Is rebutted in the context it is being presented in.
Jesus was Jewish. Paul, Peter, James and John were Jews
your point?
This is terrible pseudo-history. I got a kick out of the Pat Briney guy identifying with the late european Gnostics lmao
I think the apostilic fathers would like to have a word with these baptists
Example if your point being....?
Anyone that has ACTUALLY studied church history in college (and not a tainted Baptist one) will know the truth. And heck even most ex baptists as myself know this is false. I even knew this as a kid growing up in a Baptist household with great great great great grandparents who were famous Baptist apostles and missionaries and pastors and before I even had any education myself and saw through this propaganda. Anyone worth their salt that has any honesty and integrity anywhere in their being can see through this a mile away!
This is beyond laughable!! And there’s no denomination that would even agree with you nor does history itself and facts and science and historical evidence.
You guys disprove your own claims yourself. You can’t have it both ways. So you claimed to break away from the church and you teach sola scriptura, sola fide , scripture alone, faith alone, Bible alone, etc …which is the antithesis of the early church! Geez, you can’t break away from all of that and break away from apostolic succession but then try to at the same time claim that you are part of the original or early church. No, You cannot have it both ways. 😂 wow. Well, Most of us Catholics now are ex Baptist ministers ourselves. Keep studying one day you guys will come home to the truth.
haha, catholic propaganda lies you have there
obviously you have not even watched the film or have understanding of the subject
baptists DID NOT break away from any group,
the film doesn't say that, but actually the opposite
but you point that out again and again, what a clown
get some brain, you bot
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch that don't even matter. the main issue is closed minded thinking and ability to trap millions of people into thinking that God's true word is only in one version of a book translated by a bunch of book smart scholars. you sound ridiculous.
I’m not a bot. I’m an ex Baptist and ex pastor! I’m telling you that you are deceived. I watched the whole video and I already know what you teach. Obviously you don’t care about your own salvation and true historical evidence. The reason why I am NOW Catholic is because I went back and studied true church history, and the church fathers and the early church. Not just what I learned in Baptist seminary, but actually going back in my OWN studies and unbiasedly learning the full details. Yes my family by the way (going back hundreds and hundreds of years) were Baptist pastors, missionaries, one was even called the Baptist “apostle” to Louisiana. You probably didn’t even know they use the word apostle in Baptist faith. But if you don’t believe me go and research Joseph Willis!! He was one of my great great great grandfathers! Pastor and apostle of the Baptist faith to Louisiana when it was 100% Catholic.
So much for your bot excuse.
You can run but you can’t hide from the truth! 😂
Don’t worry, I’ll be here here when you’re ready to join the Catholic Church. Let me know.
Pastor Jimenez you’re a joke buddy! I’d love to debate you in public and embarrass you.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchyou just proved how stupid you are.
“We didn’t break away from the church?????
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You obviously don’t even know a major part of history called the Reformation ! Tell that to Martin Luther then! The word protestant literally means protest dummy. You’re protesting the Catholic Church. 😂. Wow you can’t make this up.
Now you guys try to say that you’re not part of that Protestant group, you are a separate group. But except your arguments don’t hold any water. What you guys teach and believe for 1. is not what any groups taught and believed before. 2. Those groups who were not part of the church before were called heretics. So you can’t have both ways And even if you did you just refuted yourself. 😂
The fact that you are too stupid to see this proves my points.
That’s why every Baptist pastor that did their homework is now Catholic 😂. Just saying…..
Good documentary, but why be Catholic? Because it’s true! As GK Chesterton said, once a man stops his hatred of the church he will be pulled toward it.
roman catholic 'church' is the mother of all cults
go compare the bible to the RC doctrines and you'll discover the RC lies
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurchWhy is y’all’s bible only 66 books long? Why bend the knee to a deranged German arch-heretic and mutilate the biblical canon?
The way I view it is that You are wrong and it shows. We profess the Nicene Creed, accept the Bible, receive the 7 sacraments. Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian and certainly not a Baptist. Saint John was never a Baptist neither.
Baptism is a requirement to enter the church and can be administered by immersion or by pouring over the forehead. It's called Christening which means to make one Christian. Baptisim is administered in the church by the front door because that shows the candidate is entering the church.
Scripture and tradition are on equal footing. There is more Scripture read on Sunday morning in a Catholic church than most other churches combined who only read a verse or two. The Lord's Supper is observed and prayers are offered. Acts 2:42. Saint John chapter 6.
Baptist is Protestant and came after the Great schism. Baptists are considered separated brethren. Just everything in this message rubbed me the wrong way because it is inaccurate.
There are Reformed Catholics out there. Some of them do happen to fall under the Protestant banner. Independent and Old Catholic, Methodists, Anglicans, Orthodox, etc. All Catholic!
all lies from your pagan leaders.
don't be deceived
Paul said let their be no divisons among you." You who call yourself of Cephas, or Apollos, or Baptist, or Lutheran, or Methodist did any of these die for you? 1 Corinthians 1-3.
Denominationalism is not of God!
"1 Corinthians 1:12-15 KJV
[12] Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. [13] Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? [14] I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; [15] lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. "
We were never called to denominate! We are called to be ONE!
We were called to be a Kingdom of priests and a holy nation!
We were called to be Israel!
Ephesians 2:12 KJV
[12] that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: "
well you forgot about these?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch
I agree with those verses, thanks for sharing, but they have nothing to do with my point. I wasn't talking about another gospel. I was talking about denominational division and the churches identity crisis. Calling oneself Baptist is a part of that divison.
No where are we to ever call ourselves Baptist, Lutheran, Calvin's, Methodist, etc. Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 1,3 that this is divison and it is carnal, and calls those that do this babes.
Something to consider when defending your denomination.
@@JosefGroup
if you got one of the message of the documentary, which is true btw, it was OTHER people that called baptists as baptists, they just embrace the name like the name christian which other people have called the christians on the 1st century.
also groups have to have name to tell them apart from others so there IS a need for that name.
also so many 'christian' groups are just mocking true christianity by their mere existence so it's good to distance from those and be identified as different from those...
so may we know what 'denomination' you belong to? are you christian?
I’m sorry, but the Baptist church was not established by Jesus and does not resemble the early church’s order of Mass. Jesus established one church and that was the Catholic Church. If you study early church history, you’ll come across what the early church was actually like. If you want to have access to all of Jesus’ teachings, it is through the teachings of the Catholic Church and the Catholic interpretation of the Bible.
you must be so deluded to believe that
Exactly, you nailed it. The truth will set you free once you actually learn the history of the early church and connect the scriptures properly.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch , nope, just smart enough to do my research.
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch You are delusional enough to still be a baptist. Become Orthodox
Go to Hell with your Roman Idols. 😅
Thank you for the laugh. Become Orthodox
Orthodox Aren't Saved. Also they are Idolaters pray to Images of Dead People. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Baptist "Historian" Try not to make up their own history and revision Catholic history challenge: Impossible
Cry about it Cuckolic
the Catholic Church has completelt left the faith. Pope Frankie boy is showing what orthodox ans protestants knew centures ago about idol worshipping. I dont hate the Catholic churchC many great saints/martyrs ans literature stemmed from catholics and i thibk God does his works through pious cathokics, but c'mon how can you look at rome and what frankiee boy isndoing and thibk "this is it"
@@user-up8vp9sz2d That's a weird way of saying you're coming out but ok
@@pouffy149 why do you defend homosexuality and worshiping other religions? thats all the Catholic church under francis and the whole Second vatican council since has been promoting
@@user-up8vp9sz2d L bozo you really fell for the propaganda lmaooooo
I don't understand why pastor jimenez said you can't legislate Christianity.
Why shouldn't you? What's wrong with the laws of the old testament?
It should be enforced into a christian state.
I think he is meaning you cant force people to convert to christianity. Because the bible says people have a choice and true christianity is interwoven with liberty.
you can't really have the right faith if you were forced into 'believing'
@@DiscerningWordBaptistChurch what about raising your kids? Are you telling me that you're giving them a choice of whether to accept christ or not?
Hahaha'
@@elianmakdsi8908 E•Lie`n_Make•di.sease`d Doctrine try to Sound) True. Lol' we know you hate The "True" exact, Image of the Invisible God. You little Heretic' Gnostic' /Iconoclast"ick* Blab'tist Reformned/Deformed' Protest•ant 🐜 Evil'jelly•called quasi so-called' C_risk`tian" in danger of Hellfire" 🔥 Damnation! Unfortunately' for you_heretics' He is fully God' & fully Man.... But your ignorant of The Scriptures" Koine Greek.'
@@elianmakdsi8908 You're response shows your Total ignorance' of What the Scriptures.. actually reveal and say. Hahaha
@@elianmakdsi8908 Hahaha' there is many Scriptures that Refute your little Anti`Incarnation" The Word was made Flesh' and dwelt among Us, Heresy' etc. Etc. etc... But because you are a little Reformned /Deformed' Protestant' so-called' C_risk-tian" holding to a 450 to 500 year Old' *New" Man-made tradition" you don't know your "Twisting' of the Scriptures and erroneous understanding and miss-interpretation' /re-interpretation and Non Authoritative' use of Them will lead you into Damnation' 🔥 quickly.' Hahaha' I know you're Protestant' so-called' history it's boring' you see we know where all' your little false Teaching's /doctrine) and heresy come and Came From. Plot twist your not even really a CHRISTIAN' you are heterodox' not Orthodox' Christian +:+:+ we have a tradition and history of over 1,900 year's
@@elianmakdsi8908 And by the way your attempt to interpret and expound on Scripture means nothing to us Orthodox' Christian believers. You have absolutely no authority to teach or to preach! To anyone first figure out which of you over 7,000 different fake/ false' Man-made so-called' C_risk`ian demon-izations" (Denominations' is the true and Correct one.) hahaha Hahaha' oh I forgot you're Heretical' view that the Church is invisible" keeps you from finding that One TRUE Church +:+:+ The Body of Christ ...instead you' like all the little divi•dead Splinter' Sect's have to Twist' history and grab at Straw's like all you fake! /false' Man-made little Sectarian' groups /movements Organization's and so-called' Non-denominational' "C-hurt_us that splintered' and broke of one another only to become another Sect' denomination' and have the echo's of one or many' of the Protestant' Reformers=deformers of the One True Church. You are nothing but a bunch of little Rebellious goat's 🐐 🐏 a bunch of little devil's The Protestant' revolt" was revolting' it was a "Rebellion" and a Scattering" of the Sheep' 🐑 to the Slaughter" The Reformation Devided Western Europe especially' and has lead to (Chaos & Confusion) Sectarian'ism Par-Excellence" which is nothing more than a Smorgasbord' of all types of Heresy'
@@elianmakdsi8908 But because you don't know anything about Official" Church history you read a Revisionist Altered tampered with false Protestant' Slant/on history. Hahaha we know what you do and what you did. And by the way go to my channel and watch my entire playlist" Lol' have fun watching your boring lame..fake little false his-story' and your many.. Many' Many" versions of what the Church is according to "Babble-Blabbtist' and Mormon's/Moron's Unitarians/Unit-arians so-called Jehovah's Witness etc. It's a good laugh. But I have read your garbage history' and Protestant' Reformers" they were and are Heretics' with Lies' pepperd with a little bit of Truth, here and there. Hahaha"
Constantine is the one the instituted Sunday as the the day of worship honoring the Sun God Christian believer keep the sabbath day holy as we know Saturday
wrong, you should not be listening to the SDA cult, rather get your doctrine right from the bible
the disciples in book of Acts are gathering specially in the first day of the week, which today is Sunday
This is a lecture of churchianity. Not a lick of healing truth anywhere.
what healing do you need?
Documentaries are typically just video lectures, yes.
If you want healing truth perhaps you should actually visit a church.
It's a revisionist Reformed deformed Protestant/ Sectarian slant on so-called Church history according to this Heretical Man-made Sect. That's what it really is a grabbing at Straw's
Jesus is the great physician. Jesus is talked about throughout this documentary.
Jesus told His followers to heal the sick. Are you obeying His onstruction or ignoring it? Or worse yet, are you trying to replace it through a belief system all your own?