5 Reasons to Own a Color Meter and 2 Reasons You Don't - Illuminati Light and Color Meter
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- The Illuminati Wireless Light and Color Meter for Photo & Video: kck.st/2oQ42fx
Color meters. You've heard of them, but you probably don't own one. In today's lesson on The Slanted Lens, I'll share five ways using a color meter will make your life easier when shooting video or stills, and the two reasons you probably don't own one.
The Illuminati Wireless Light and Color Meter for Photo & Video can solve all seven of these problems for you. Join the Kickstarter here: kck.st/2oQ42fx
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I am a backer and got in on the ground floor .. Those guys are awesome .. Thank you JP
Glad to hear it, Kevin!
I bought one of these and it works as advertised! A great product.
As for its affordability, the cheapest meter I've been able to find that does the same thing is over $750 (Sekisonic)!
This is a great deal! It's a color meter in addition to a light meter. Kickstarter backers get it for 229 + shipping! I backed it. Thanks for the info.
Thanks Evan!
Loved the homage to Sunset Boulevard, and the irony that it was an epilogue in black & white to a video about color. You is tricksy JB.
Haha.
My initial thought was, "why not just correct in post after using a decent color card for the initial pic?" But you're right. This isn't expensive and if I can get the perfect exposure straight out of the camera without having to do any post processing in Lightroom, that is a very large savings in time and money for a pro shooter. Great find!
Nice to hear you agree. Thanks for watching!
Great video 🎉
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!
is it working for shooting live show concert which had different color tempt whose always changed rapidly ?
Great info as always. I had a friend who brought in a Seckonic (sp?) and found our studio lights were a fair bit off from each other. - Ended up with mixed skin tones in our studio. I will be researching this!
Thanks 😊
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
White card for white balance, grey card for exposure, kodak box for color balance.
Let's say you are shooting outside with film and don't have different filters. Is there any point doing a colour temperature reading so that you could record it for later digital editing? Is there any point in recording the colour temperature if you mostly shoot with black and white film, does it give you a greater understanding of tonality?
Please do a video that explains the diference between strobes: monolight or flash ring?
Hi! With this device in any case have to use "X-rite colorchecker passport" or its analog to create custom profile, to correctly display the correct colors of a specific lens and camera.
But still, if you take analogs, it's very cheap.
So now that this is available what color meter is better the Illuminti or the Lumu power?
this spoke to me today
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
$300 is a big step forward compared to the cheapest one I could find on B&H ($800). And I love the extra comfort. Still $300 is a lot to pay for a little comfort as you can do this with a graycard or a colorchecker.
Got one today, connects dependably for metering ambient exposure, fails really hard when enabling flash metering.
It won't meter flash and stops metering ambient afterwards, then it becomes impossible to reconnect to the meter unless I delete it from my bluetooth settings and also unbind from the meter itself.
Pro trick : watch series on Flixzone. I've been using it for watching all kinds of movies lately.
Hi Jay, do you actually have a real working copy of this Kickstarter colour meter? And you can confirm that it works and does all it says it does? I'm just not used to seeing a Kickstarter advertised by someone else who already has the product, isn't Kickstarter about products that aren't yet produced?
Also I can't believe there are people replying who think that $300 is NOT inexpensive for a colour AND light meter!!! Seriously the only way you can think that is if you are not a pro photographer or videographer and are commenting from a position of ignorance. Look up the price of both types of meters before commenting. I already own a sekonic L-308DC which saves me so much guess work wth exposures onsite and cost more than this Kickstarter and it only measures light and not colour! This is seriously amazing and I'm putting money down for this one
Hi Jeff. Yes, we used it on set as we shot with it. It works really well. I love it and think it's a great product. Glad to hear you're investing!
WRONG! Technology has gone leaps and bounds. Accuracy, size with nanotechnology with robotic soldering and automation has KILLLLLED it. Look at a $80 LED vs a $500. And they are making a killing at that low price point. I purchased Rosco LED panels for thousands, and replaced them with $350 worth of other MORE functional LED's. Sure when they first were being used they had a color tinge, and low CRI, and no bi-color. Look NOW! $110 for a 600LED panel with 5L lux dims down to 1%, all alum housing with Bicolor with remote and digital read out...Get the film branded equal to that at about $700-1000. This light meter electronics, scematics are all available. there is not much being reinvented. Just adapted to a phone so the parts doesn't cost them. So you get a app programmer instead, and use the sensor device leads to tap into the receiving end. Look at FLIR devices for iPhone. When they first came out they were $500! Now $250 or less! You can find some for 160!!
Oh...while tech has exploded.....we still cant go back to the moon in 50 years :-)
FYI, JP you do a pretty amazing job in these videos. Like this device, and your own name and possible links.... the names scare me :-)
If your time costs $0/hr, then, by all means, go ahead and DIY! This meter is a steal compared to how much time it would take to do this yourself.
Great video as always. Now send over that $300 so I can get this color meter ☺
Tell me the truth Jay, does it drive you absolutely nuts watching all the bad produced CZcams videos/channels with millions of subscribers? and here you are pumping out high quality content with great video production behind it and sitting at 240k subscribers when you deserve to be in the millions? it amazes me still, how most youtube viewers just don't give a crap about content or the equipment they use and people accept it and still subscribe to garbage channels with shaky video and poor audio. it drives me crazy. I did go to college for broadcasting which included how to produce quality video. But that was early 90s and kids today try to learn everything from youtube now.
Thanks for your kind words.
This is a super product for serious photographers.
To clarify the message a bit and compare apples with apples:
- A white card is good for One light source.
- Color compensations are required when you got MORE than one light sources and that need to be done on all individual sources except the sun maybe). When all have the same color and the same bias, the adjustment in software is sooo much easier.
You could use a $9 home made working-only-once-device OR an app in a camera mobile... BUT the consistency between all models and all batches makes it impossible to achieve any professional quality for those who is trying to get the best result in the shortest time AND also be able to pay the food and living cost.
If you think $300 is expensive, you should solve the color temperature issues your own way. Maybe it will make you rich!
After all, it is usually fine to buy a $2000 camera AND if the light is crap, the crappy light is of course captured with greater quality!
Why not invest on the newest version of the Luma Power for iphone? I'm very impressed with it's features. It does a lot more than just color reading. And I'm not a spokesperson, but I should be ;)
Jay P. and Lars talked about this on yesterday's video! - czcams.com/video/Lz4XsXjVzE8/video.html
300 is Inexpensive? Maybe for a lens it's not too bad, but for just a sensor?
Im pretty sur you can make a diy for 10$
Tungsten! (Cue tilt up to metal halide high bay).
Will this work with LEDs though? Many color meters don't.
Yes, it is a constant light meter.
I guess we have differing opions on what "inexpensive" is. :-/
I don't know about you but my time is money. And anything that saves me time so that I can get it right in camera instead of having to fix it in post is worth it.
i don't think you illustrated the 5 reasons to buy and 2 reasons you dont. still learned about this little gizmo and might buy it so thanks anyway!
Hi JP, if you are the brand ambassador or in touch with the company could you pass the message along: I tried, but I could not get a response to my message.
A good brand is defined also by the customer service provided after having sold the product. Are they going to explain how to upgrade the locked devices they are mentioning? I try to do upgrade on my own from my phone App from version 720 to 906. When it comes to Enabling DFU mode the device gets disconnected and shuts itself down. Besides, there is a problem with the flash metering, too. It switches itself automatically off to ambient only mode. Customer Service please !!!
Send your contact information (and the issue you are having that you've laid out here) to Emerald (emerald@theslantedlens.com). I will see if I can get you in touch with datacolor.
@@TheSlantedLens I didn't know that this was a Datacolor product. They sure don't advertise this...
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What’s the name of that pan grip? It looks amazing. 🤩
Vanguard GH-300 T-head, bhpho.to/2ToBOKk
the giveaway isn't the right link or setup yet
Sorry about that, it's working now. Thanks!
I would get one, if it had a better name. Otherwise a Lumu or a $5 grey card should work well. *Correction, a pure white swatch on a grey card is best for color temp. Most decent ones should have it. Or a colorChecker can also work.
Not the same thing. He gave a number of reasons why a grey card wouldn't work. And the Lumu only works with iOS products. AND it costs the SAME $299. lu.mu
ok, ill watch again
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So I watched it again.....
1. issue is nice to do yet a grey card, or a Raw file white balance in post, or InCamera WB setting, on something you know you want white will also correct the temperatures of light.
2 and 3 are the same and a good reason to have one.
4th is AGAIN the same reason, due to a bad purchase of lights, or when renting I guess, or occasional testing it is useful, SAME mixed light issue, different situation.
5th is also a mixed light issue.
So if you don't understand the SAME issue explained to you 4 times in 2,3,4 and,5, then you should take a lighting course. Not saying this is not a handy tool, but he explained 4 different situations dealing with the same issue of mixed lights.
Ya, if I didn't know what I was doing, I too would buy one.
You are better off with a ExpoDisc in such a demanding situation. If using a gray card...only thing is to make sure your card has swatches as well for white balance/pure white, or a Color checker swatches.
This tool is not going to correct your lights, it will correct the incident reading of the mixed lights.
Using pure white as your target being 5500Kelvin should get you off to a great start. Other temps will follow this marker.
Does that gizmo tell you the settings for your camera? I am not sure I understood. Or does it only give you the readings and you, as an experienced photographer, now know what to do? its a pricey gizmo for just giving out readings. If in order to use it must one know what the readings are, it seems to me that the best thing for me to do, is learn old school; without the gizmo.
AnaMaria, you do have to know how to use your camera to properly use the meter. However, this will give you the light and color output of the scene you're metering. It will save you time and money in the long run.
It would be great if you could do a beginners tutorial on this because I don't have an accurate idea of how to do this ☺ pls. I definitely would like to learn more since I am facing editing issues due to color and lighting
What the difference of that and light meter....I have a sekonic?
Dougie, a light meter will tell you exposure, which this does as well. But it also adds the benefit of everything outlined in the video. Plus this meter has some pretty cool additional features that others don't, like being bluetooth compatible. Check out the Kickstarter link and see for yourself! www.kickstarter.com/projects/2047123342/illuminati-wireless-light-and-color-meter-for-your
Those 'five reasons' are all the same reason.
The custom white balance feature in my Sony mirrorless camera can give me a colour temperature reading in Kelvin. I have not shot with another system, so perhaps others can chime in about the custom white balance feature of their camera system. Personally, I don't see how this colour meter would improve on the capabilities of the technology that I already own.
I must have hit the shopping channel by mistake.
Just shoot RAW and I can adjust it in post 😂
Armando Ferreira I totally agree. Correcting for differences between ambient/practicals and strobes is much better on a photo by photo basis in post production as opposed to simply getting the correct gel on the strobe in the first place and then shooting as many already corrected shots as your heart desires out in the field. That would defeat the whole purpose of forking over a monthly payment to Adobe.
Seriously saves so much time. Thanks Wilson.
The Slanted Lens Yeah, but now if I have more precise data I will want more gels to make use of it... so it will be more than $200 or $300 for me with more gels added in... darn that Rosco company. I bet they're behind this whole thing. :-)
BTW: I will never understand why so many people always want LESS data/information while out in the field from which to make pre-shutter release decisions, but MORE sliders and drop down menus to dick around with for hours sitting in front of a computer in post. To each their own, I guess.
@@tw9535 Yeah try shooting raw with Arri Alexa or a high end Red and see what happens. I'm really curious to see the look on your face when you're trying to figure out how to store, transfer and edit 100-150 gb per minute footage. Only amateurs and people who don't know what they're doing leave everything they can do on set to post. You'll have so many problems to deal with in post already. Trust me you definitely don't want to add to it.
I have to tell you, I don't like your videos nearly as much as the ones from a few years ago, because so few are actual tutorials or objective information. This video isn't about "5 reasons to own a color meter," as the title suggests. This video is about one specific product, which is not the only color metering/correcting option out there, and actually is actually a plea to support a kickstarter campaign - aka, a commercial. It's a great commercial, and it's compelling, but the title should be, "5 reasons to buy the illuminati color meter." Also, if you have a stake in illuminati or are getting financial incentives to promote their product/campaign, that should be disclosed to keep things above board.
All of the reasons given apply to all combo color/light meters (e.g. $300 Lumu or $750++ Sekisonic meters). Just because he used only one particular item doesn't mean that the same thing doesn't apply to the other brands.
FWIW, I also own the Illuminati meter and it works as advertised. I especially like that it works with both iOS and Android (which I own) devices.
One huge advantage that this has over other meters is the fact that you can put it on top of a microphone or light stand and be able to take your readings up to 80 feet away. If you were to have to walk back and forth to take constant readings, you could very well lose your light just while walking. Anyway, just something to think of.
Edit: Added last paragraph.
Andin is right this is a commercial. Nothing wrong with that but the title of this upload.
Illuminati confirmed
300$ is expensive... I told you what : Instead of purchasing 200$ hardware for my studio i bought a 3d printer to print those part... Now i got my 3d printer since 4 month and i already printed for 350$+ of hardware... You want some real exemples :
. Studio light tripod adaptator for speedlight + umbrella : 1$ printed, 15 / 30$ on the market
. Studio tripod : 3$ printed ( pvc pipe + printed part ), 30 / 50$ on the market.
. Speedlight snoots : 50ct printed each , 10 / 30$ on the market.
Are you also going to print the hardware to make your 3D color meter work?
Its a Triangle device named Illuminati!!!....LOLOL...RUN!!!! $300 IS expensive....Maybe at $50
Illuminati confirm
Glad you like it. Thanks for watching!
#1 reason - when you shoot glorious analogue (because real life is not binary).
Yep, a meter is certainly handy with film!
Yes, buy a 300$ color meter. Or, like a sane person would do, pick up a 3$ grey card instead.
A $3 gray card doesn't do what this $300 color meter does.
Decided to look up some alternatives and all of them are more expensive and bulkier than this. I guess I was making bank for a high-end shoot, I'd get one. But I'm not lol. Lightroom does my white balancing. :P
Light room does a great job of correcting white balance but can't do what a color meter does to control color when you shoot and avoid having more than one color balance in the same shot. when that happens light room can only correct one color in the image and not two sources.