Laws of Light: Shooting in Direct Sun
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Shooting portraits in direct sun can give you harsh results. We'll show you how to get the best images at your location.
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Probably the best CZcams tutorial on Laws of Light. brief, straight to the point, various samples shots, differences between various light situation. I learned a new tricks I've never heard before!. Tutorial than most on CZcams. Thanks Dear Teacher
thanks daniel for watching! hope you share this with others.
Respected Mr. Morgan . A lot of thanks for these valueable tutorials on youtube for us. Its an honor to learn from a MASTER A LEGEND of photography Like you.
This was a really, simple, direct, no-nonsense video on light.. I loved it.
Thanks Ray! We released more Laws of light videos: czcams.com/video/M9NlA7yzFrw/video.html
this is the best video on youtube about this. Thank you for the crash course.
I absolutely love your presentation and your passion can be felt. Keep up the good work and I'm glad that I found your channel and you are right about shooting at 2.8, in the sun, you have to have highspeed sync in strobe or flash to shoot wide open.
hey sid thanks for checking out our channel! glad the information was useful.
As always great tips, quick, fast, concise and useful...
hey carlos, thanks for checking out our video!
You make learning entertaining and fun. I love your teaching style. ♥
Thank you! Glad you enjoy it!
Great video as always JP! Super informative.
hey paul thanks for checking out our videos. hopefully you're subscribed!
Great material to review when going to do field work under these conditions. I like the practical breakdown such as remarks pertaining to things like needing either more gear or extra people. The video does emphasize what to do in either conditions with or without extra gear. What I like is the truth telling about shooting on location - very unglamorous. Also demonstrates no matter how good an iphone shot can be, the laws of physics will prevail. That is, there is no easy "App" on the phone to diffuse harsh sunlight.
hey thanks for that! glad you were able to get some information out of this.
Thank you JP.. Great Video. Have an excellent week.
Thanks, Kevin! We really had a blast filming this one! It was the only sunny day last week haha
Love your videos. Simple and easy to learn
Great to hear. Thanks for watching!
Best episode ever
best comment ever
Wow! I luved this video! I can't wait to get out and try it!
Thanks for your comment and enjoy your shoot!
Good video. Learned a lot from this, thank you!
hey garzrak, thanks for checking it out! glad you were able to learn something!
It’s amazing how much the entry level photographer is frightened by off-camera flash. When they want to improve the quality of their outdoor portraits they would rather pay $1500 for a portrait lens than simply pop for an inexpensive flash & modifier. If they will give a flash a try and allow themselves to make mistakes they will easily gain an understanding of how it works.
Thank you... Good info.
Love the content . This helped me a lot
thanks for that! please share it and subscribe to help us out!
many thanks for this video, very informative.
You are welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks!!! That helps a lot.
You're welcome! Check out our other laws of light video: czcams.com/video/XYyW7lqnj6w/video.html
Great video Jay. Thanks.
THanks for your support!
Liked the flow of information, not slow and drawn out.
hey geoffrey, thanks for checking out our video! hope you find some useful information.
At the end of last year's summer I bought a 15 foot beach umbrella that I mounted to a grocery cart (that I use to haul my lighting gear in outdoor shoots). In direct sun, I open the umbrella, put it between the sun and my subject, use two shoot through umbrellas (weighted down!--the weights are part of my lighting gear, in the shopping cart), and the results are great. For $7.50 (US), I have instant shade wherever and whenever I need it.
I want to see a photo of your set up. It sounds awesome. Post a photo on FB.
Beautiful Images and great video!
hey maria, thanks for watching! check out our live stream where we'll talk about this more in depth tomorrow!
Thanks it helps 👍👍
Awesome video! I much prefer using the sun as background and hss with parapop 38 inch Octobox and evolv200lights
nice setup tristan! thanks for sharing.
Great tutorial! ❤️
Glad you liked it!! Thanks for your comment!
Nice video... and nice model! Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Check out more of our videos on lighting here: czcams.com/video/XYyW7lqnj6w/video.html
A lot of good info.
Great tips. Thanks for sharing!
hey yani, thanks for checking out our channel. hope it was helpful.
Thank you for this lesson
You are welcome! Hope you learned some good tips.
Amazing photos 🙏👍👌
great tips and beautiful pix and model..hehe
hey aldrin, thanks for checking out our video!
As much as I love shooting in natural light, living in the south makes shooting in harsh light (and heat) horrible. This video was so helpful.
hey ryan, thanks for your thoughts! we really enjoyed shooting it as well. except for the heat.
Thank you very must so perfect pictures by you im from Vietnam
Thank you very much! Good luck with your career in Vietnam!
Great tutorial!
thanks for checking it out!
No.1 photography. 👌👍🙏🇮🇳
It's amazing what a great tool the sun can be.
Great video! Thanks for all different tips to get around this problem, which for many photographers, is there most of the day.
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching!
great video!!!
Glad you liked it!! Thanks for the visit!
Thanks for this!
thanks for checking out the channel! hope you subscribed for more content!
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@@TheSlantedLens very
very
You're a true professional and I trust your tips. I have an upcoming shoot where they want to do a poolside photoshoot and I asked her if the pool is ever in the shade or is it in entirely in the direct sun. It looks like it's in direct sun. I'm trying to figure out what time of day to schedule the photoshoot. I think I'd like to start later in the day so we would have time for hair and makeup but I don't know, it gets hotter later in the day. So many things to think about. I know enough to know I want to bring an off camera flash and the scrim thing you used. I was also wondering about high speed sync. I might have to borrow my Dad's high speed sync strobe. I am going to have my daughter assist me, the client said she doesn't want a big crew.
Evening light it a really nice time to shoot to get beautiful light if you have a choice of the time to shoot.
Just use an ND filter when using non synch lights in the last lighting scenario and you can stop down to fully open up the aperture if that's the look you're going for.
Simple solution.
there ya go! we didn't cover NDs in that video, but it certainly a great option.
@@TheSlantedLens Yes, an omission happens quickly however adequat, obviousally usefull it would have been well mentioned within Your chosen thematic of You advisory tutorial :-).
Maybe a good idea to blend-in a banner to remind the viewer to also inquire about the adable grey-filter option -?
(Because still a good video ! )
An ND filter for photography? Is that beneficial?
@@tonyserneels yeah, why not. Should use whatever works for you. No hard written rules. Experiment and use whatever is necessary.
Saket Gyani Oh yeah I didn't saw the strobe light part yet. Anyway, would you recommend an ND filter for every lens you have or do you know some way you can use one on many other lenses?
Beautiful 🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️📸❤️📸❤️📸🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching!
Just did a shoot today, first time shooting in the Florida sun at high noon. Not my best work, but this video has given me a couple of adjustments to make for next time.
Good to hear. Hope your next sunny shoot goes well!
Always great. No info on that LED panel at the end.??
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So basically, shooting in direct sunlight shouldn't be a problem if you have a van full of studio equipment?
a van full of studio equipment, like two flags ? :)
smh
lovely video thank u verz much. strobe is feathered here?
I am not sure which image you are referring to but I usually feather the strobe.
Am I the only one who thinks that hard shadows and patches from the sunlight are looking extremely aesthetically pleasing?
Is this uploaded at UHD ? because on 1080p i see a ton of youtube artifacting and no option to go higher as of now.
Great tips !!
Hmm interesting. Sorry. We uploaded as 1080p
I like ur video....just a question, i got 150mm 2.8 sigma dc macro hsm, can i shoot portrait with great bokah like 70-200mm with it?.. Ihv nikon system
you can shoot portraits with it. take a few test shots with different focal lengths to see if you like that perspective.
So you see......this was very informative thank you.
(I couldn’t help it)
Glad you found it informative. Thanks for watching!
She is so gorgeus!!
she had a great look for this video
Around what were your settings?
Thank you for the video! I would like to shoot with an assistant every time, but the reality is I can't. Can you explain or maybe share a link to how the reflector attaches at the 4:42 mark? The reflector you use is not cheap, does the price include the stand that you are using, or is that all separate? Thanks!
It is worth the price. The frame keeps it solid and it is much easier to handle outside. I comes with a cross bar and clamp that can be put onto a stand. See it here: bhpho.to/3MEZdRp
I live in the Northwest....What is direct sun?? :-)
haha something you will get tired of when you're cooked like bacon here in so cal
I live in Ireland, what is this sun thing you speak off?
I live in Arizona, come on down and I'll show you. :-)
I live in Palestine, where you can feel both and decide what's best for ya.
@@MELLYMEDIA ; If you go to Spain, it's the hot shinny thing in the sky, they say we have it in Ireland too, hiding behind the clouds.
Love the video. Could you have used an ND filter in this situation to lower your aperture?
Yes you definitely could! And that's a great way to lower your exposure. These techniques are more about dealing with that sun and harsh shadows which an ND filter wouldn't fix.
Thank you.
Hi, what about using an ND filter instead of high speed sync when you only have a speedlight ? Thanks
Yes. You might find this tutorial helpful: czcams.com/video/8Dtprk44h9k/video.html
Something weird with CZcams? I've pulled video quality down to even 360p and it keeps buffering no matter on 4g or wifi. No other videos having this issue...
Solid set up structure and demo!
sorry to hear about your internet problems. maybe need to restart your computer?
The Slanted Lens it's on phone, watching 720p on other videos. Will try again shortly for the last portion.
Still great work as always!
apologies for your troubles!!
For some reason the CZcams app on my tablet regularly gives me videos at less than 1080p, this one came at 720p. When I notice, I change to 1080p and it's fine.
Great video, advice, and final pictures as usual!
But forget that Sun Bounce stuff, just take a Mair with you on every shoot, instead.
She was a great model no doubt. The Sun Bounce was great as well. Thanks
Important lighting lesson! Tx JP! Mair is a photogenic cutie... more, more ;)
hi richard, yes the pictures came out really great! I think her hair really popped on that background.
Helpful hint: If you can't afford the Manfrotto Human Combo Light & Reflector Stand, do what I do: MAKE all model/talent "escorts" WORK on the shoot....from hauling gear to coffee runs to holding grip gear/lighting. Because even TFP/trade work isn't free.....or equal.
Great point. Thanks for sharing!
NICE YOU'RE MAKING A STUDIO IN OUT SIDE ........!
Yes it so fun to shoot outside when you know how to control the light. Thanks
Great tutorial! The grass looks like perfect tick habitat though. Not sure that was worth the risk, IMHO.
One of the hazards of shooting in some outdoor locations. Glad we didn't see any ticks.
Any particular reason you didn't add the camera settings to the photos? Most CZcamsrs do and it always interesting and educational to see when you're checking out the pix and reviewing the choices you made. Were you just being lazy during editing or is it a deliberate choice you made. WOuld be interested to hear why.
Wow we go to a lot of work to make great lessons. No one has ever called us lazy before. Its not in my nature. We will try and do that in the future.
Haha I know mate, and we appreciate your efforts. I assumed you weren't being lazy, and rather that it was deliberate, but tossed that in there to give some options haha. Keep em comin chief ;)
I once shot video of me doing yoga with hot summer sun behind me ( i thought this was wrong ) but nice video clips, and when you face the sun to do selfie no good results
So true. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Will be even better in on screen you will also display camera settings when this photo was taken 4:35 ..wow..it is not damage sensor ?!!! .... (Noises at black photo with extreeme iso not skyhigh?!.... I thing my a7s2 is damaged just by overexposure picture to be white
Hope you learned some good tips!
What mic did you record this with?
Sennheiser G3
Nice
great!
What can you do about the shadow on the ground, though?
6:17
As I posed on Petapixel:
Excellent presentation. Addresses one of the most difficult location lighting scenarios out there.
BTW, Mair and all the models from all the photography presentations, on all the CZcams channels, should at least publish their names and contact info on each youtube video in the "SHOW MORE" section and one or two other major web sites.
I keep seeing references to Instagram and Twitter or whoever uses the "@" and # signs, but I don't use or view either of them. Since all the presentations I see and which are probably the most seen presentations, are produced for CZcams, then all photographer, model, gear, etc., should be right there on CZcams, in "SHOW MORE".
Or, then at least, the models' web site or agency (model mayhem for example), can be used. Of course Facebook is another example of easy finding of models. For me, # and @ should only be used in replacement of swear words.
Ok, thanks again. My humble unbiased and unasked for opinion. Loved and appreciated the presentation.
What Lenses are you using please ?
I am using the Tamron 70-200mm, 24-70mm on Canon.
Do you meter HSS and if yes what is your process?
there isn't a meter out there that is set up to meter HSS that i'm aware of. so i do a few test shots and make calculations based on that.
I pretty much do the same thing since I noticed with my sekonic L-478 even though it goes up to 1000 shutter my exposure is never right and just wondered if you did something different when using your light meter for HSS😎
link to the bike please lol
You can use ND filters to help you with the sync speed .... not only HSS
The problem with ND filters is that they reduce both the background and the strobes at the same time. That can work if you have the strobe power. If you are at f8 then you can use a 3 stop ND and get back to 2.8. Great point.
i understand that the new speedlights and strobes do bring HSS almost as a standard right now... but i do believe that a high quality ND filter specially a variable ND filter is a great tool to have .
@@FrankNazario can you still see the subject though? Is focus more difficult to achieve?
@@steveliddle8417 yes... Contrary to popular belief all you need is as a most a 4 to 6 stop ND AND THE REST CAN BE DONE IN POST EXTREMELY EASY... :)
Gear used : Tamrom 35mm, but i see another lens to, a Tamron 70-200mm F/2.8 G2 ? :)
I used the Tamron 70-200 f2.8 lens and the 35mm 1.8 Tamron Lens. Mostly the 70-200. I love the way it lets you drop the background out of focus. For shooting people its my favorite lens.
You're totally right, i also use the Tamron 70-200mm most of the time for portraits, a great lens for your money :) thanks, great vid !
thanks for checking it out!
What's the minimum power of strobe required for something like this? Is 400w enough?
Probably 600w.
I use the Godox AD400Pro out in the harsh sunlight all the time. It's enough. 600 would be even better, obviously.
Or wait for some clouds.. ☁️
Jay P., I love to watch your videos but I do not like some of your pictures where you cut the model's arms just above the wrist. Is there any reason why you use that technique?
hey UFGator, we don't intentionally try to do this type of cropping. Sometimes the screen is too small and we have to crop in.
Thanks
Hello Jay can you tell me where this was?
It was out in the country. Thanks for watching!
7:15 you can use ND filters to help out in that situation.
Yes, that is another approach. Thanks for your comment!
If you don't have HSS and don't wanna shell out the money, can't you use a ND filter? It might be a little bit less quality I know.
you can use an ND for sure. We just didn't go over it in this episode because it still doesn't solve some of the issues we were talking about like harsh shadows.
Hi this is J P Morgan... I was like whaaaaaaat😳
Yep. That's my name. Thanks for watching!
@@TheSlantedLens I must say, beautiful name. Thanks 🙏
where is that location and it open to the public?
it's actually right by my house. it's on private property sorry. we were able to film there as a favor.
i was told not to put the reflector under when using the sun as a backlight ????
It depends on where the person is standing and what you are trying to accomplish. Fill light should never be stronger than the key light.
@@TheSlantedLens but the key light is effectively is the bounce as the sunlight is the backlight?
My biggest problem with reflectors or skrims is that I need someone to hold them. I much prefer a light, set it on a stand and it's ready to go.
you can also set a reflector on a stand, but having someone hold it lets you do adjustments much faster.
And I have used a shoot through umbrella as a scrim which works softening the sunlight.
If you are shooting a Southern Belle you can use her fan as a reflector. 😇
LOL. True, that would work. Enjoy your shoots!
Love Mair. She is great in Dhar Mann videos!
Yes, she is great to work with as well!
I never understood why people think direct sunlight is unflattering-then I realised that these photographers are working with female subjects. I mainly photograph men, and high contrast lighting actually works very well to accentuate lines.
Anyway, I find direct sunlight is preferable to overcast light, which has too much blue light in the spectrum and too many reflections, making colours appear washed out. (This is where polarisers, warming filters or shooting slide film/postprocessing can help.) I even find sunlight preferable to flash, which is by default too cool for people with less melanin, i.e. white people.
Ah, that's an important thing to consider, who your subject is and what features you want to help define while shooting. Thanks for sharing your insight and preferences with us!
That bike on the ground looked like fallout 4
The girl in Dharmann videos
Yep, that's her! Thanks for watching!
Tutorial needed, if it's summer and you're with people chances are you're in the direct sun.
a lot of people are scared to shoot in direct sun because of the harshness of light.
The Slanted Lens A lot of people don't shoot in direct sun because others tell them it looks bad.
Well, it actually does look bad for people being photographed... if you don't use anything to soften the light, a reflector, a HSS flash, etc... Harsh light creates unpleasant shadows that are just about impossible to correct in post prod
André Pepin You only get harsh shadows if you misuse the light.
Pff! Not true! In other words you're telling me I don't know how to use the available light (or sun light)? As JP mentioned, you can't control where the sun is in the sky with respect with the background you want to use behind your subject. Easy for you to say when you admitted not shooting people and shooting bugs, buildings, plants etc.
6:46 😂😂😂
(sigh) lol
That language belongs at a completely different website 😂😂😂
I love her in the Dhar Mann videos !!!!!
Yeah, she is great. Thanks for watching!
Is she from Dar Marr??
Yeah, Dhar Mann. Hope you learned something good from the video.
Thats the chick form Dhar Man Videos!!!!!
Yep. She is great to work with!
ND filters will come in hand for harsh sunlights :) I do my shoots in harsh lights with a 16ND and 1000ND - this helps me to shoot wide open also I can sync my OCF at HSS instagram.com/thefwordphotography/
nice really cool photos! ND Filters are awesome and I use them a lot. this lesson was about controlling the deep light/shadow contrast you usually get when in direct sun.
You missed one of the most obvious ones. Use the sun as key and your strobe as a fill right next to the lens 2.5-3.5 stops under the sun exposure.
That's another good option. thanks for sharing that
Pfft ...it certainly worked for Herb Ritts for many years but it’s a look that works in black and white better.
Miley Cyrus look so good 😅❣️
Not Miley Cyrus. But thanks for watching!
250 bucks for that reflector/soft box..... it is a sheet on a pole
It is indeed, you can make your own as well!
Who can afford to shoot with a assistant these days ??? Who is paying more than 300 for a outdoor headshot? LOL. Come on guys, you need to have a single shooter solution for "how-to" videos. Good tips and explanations. But that Sunbounce is unnecessary to put together when you have the collapsible bounces 3in1 or 5in1.
Sunbounce is also overpriced. So is Blackrapid. Folks, there are high quality alternatives for these at a fraction of the price these sell for.
Dynalites are great lights. I can recommend those as well. Yet so are numerous others, like Godox, or Cheatah, or other copies like Newwer, etc for very good prices. Keep up the great videos!
The reality is, if you are working alone, the Sunbounce is way easier to use because you can put it on a stand and it does not bend. It stays in place and it is much more effective!
@@TheSlantedLens outdoors? Maybe indoors, and sometimes outdoors...Often, its a sail outdoors. But maybe you can direct it with one hand and remote shoot with the other. Improvise they say!! LOL ..WAIT, I just checked the price on these...$340 to $650...WHAT, LOL...that is NUTS!!! That is insane. Folks, find yourself a local or not so local scrim shop that custom makes a lot of the gobo gear, and they can make it with frame for no more than $150, with custom scrim and such. I got a XL floppy flag (huge 4x4ft for $125. These companies like SUnbonce, Pocketwizard, and the like are still thinking we are getting $8-12K a day. LOL..Folks, maybe some all-stars are, but that is as few as A list actors. FYI, you can also put the 5in1 on a stand/holder, or use a small scrim jim like frame..Folks, I made my own frames out of window screens when I started. Just saying, when you start, you dont even know what you realy need in practice ! Try different things before you b uy a $650 cloth with alum frame, LOL Thats more than the cost of my 12x12 overhead butterfly !!
Depending on your style you might not care about the background so back-light and overexpose thus exposing for the skin tones.
yeah it depends on what style of photography you're going for.