Ads Targeted on What You Say? New Evidence
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I think its a bit silly to think we're all carrying around microphones with radios attached, and no greedy or immoral person is taking advantage of that.
100% I'd rather be paranoid and wrong than the alternative.
Yes. I've had this happen many times, usually in conversations with my coworkers discussing tools.
The manufacturing and importing of smart phones has to first be approved by the government and military agencies.
In other words, this is what these devices were designed for doing in the first place.
Originally, microphone and cameras were all designed to be removed and then designed to turn off or be covered up with physical switched or covers.
Now all devices are required to have access to the internet and phones all have GPS on them by default, along with high megapixel camera on both sides.
People are stupid.
@@Skylord12345 this
If that really does happen, how comes no reverse engineer / security researcher found any concrete evidence for it?
Phones already gather so much data about their user that they don't need to listen to get good with the ads.
True but the more the better, helps these bastards I mean companies make more money.
good point
When they see my history I don’t think they want to place advertisements anymore
But they do anyways
oh you sweet summer child.
amazon and google IMMEDIATELY putting out statements means they are definitely doing it too, but it’s like another commenter said , google doesn’t even need access convos to know absolutely every website you’ve ever visited and factor ads you’d like
i thought they admitted this like a decade ago....
bullshit
@@n-i-n-owomp womp undercover google employee
@@ShadowCracker not really. just a guy with a beer
I got recommended a cover of a song I haven't actively listened to or searched for in almost a decade, 10 years, and I play it on a guitar for less than a minute on a REAL GUITAR and youtube recomends me a cover of that song as the first video on the front page.
Note that neither amazon or Googles statement deny that they base advertising on captured voice data... just that data isn't captured unless you say a wake word or the microphone icon is being displayed.
"Alexa, tell the the signs of being pregnant" "Alexa, suggest some baby names" you can bet sure as fuck you're going to start getting adverts for baby shit
OK google is a great one
Have you checked your own google and amazon account? you might be surprised on what they are keeping.
@@isbestlizardI’m pretty sure they’ve admitted to that
Anybody remember that thing from awhile back where a father got angry because his daughter was receiving ads about pregnancy-related stuff from (Fred Meyer? Idk) and it turned out his daughter was pregnant and hiding it from him?
The ads knew she was pregnant :/
this is a certified closed source software moment
This type of targeting happened to my on an insane hyper level when I was in Colombia. I was curious if there were different mechanisms in place in that country to allow active listening. Consider this. I had conversations about:
- needing to buy new laces for my boots
- not knowing how my friend and i would stay in touch if we separated since our cell phone data connection was spotty
- many more but i forgot, it was in 2018
I immediately got ads on IG of:
- boot laces that don't need to be tied with a spiral end design
- a walkie talkie like device to use with friends, perfect for situations with bad data connections like music festivals
I did NOT search for any of these things online before hand, nor did I visit stores that would have sold these types of things. There were a few more examples but I can only vaguely remember them so I'll just stick with these two.
I think It’s been around a while. Over two years ago, I was talking about Guy Fieri’s flame shirt and the next time I opened IG it was there in an advert…
I think it was in Italy where a tv show tested this on a virgin phone with new accounts by saying specific sentences and than receiving targeted ads. They urged people to try the same at home and apparently it worked. Don’t know what happened after that.
Yeah I remember watching a CZcams video a few years ago, and the same was true with "red dog toys" although I'm pretty sure that was on a desktop computer
All they have to do for plausible deniability is to make sure that the resulting ads don't occur every time, spacing it out.
Then people will dismiss it as confirmation bias and take longer to figure out what's going on.
Can you not teach them please. You silly silly mouse.
@@DsiakMondala It's funny there are some ideas that I'm not sure are implemented fully or widespread yet so I refrain from accusing a company because I don't want to give an idea they didn't already have. But this? This way of hiding things is more than likely known. If some rando on the internet such as myself can come up with it I'm sure the people who implemented this came up with it too.
@@ZentaBon From experience having worked with and in multiple marketing companies, I can tell you they don't care about hiding anything. They don't now and have never done so. Why? Because that's losing money and if there's one thing marketing wants; it's money. The only thing they want to hide themselves from are ad blockers.
As any math geek will point out, until the advertisers really aren’t doing it there will always be a very measurable “signal” to statistically detect in the noise. And as the other side will always point out, this is why it’s profitable to keep the public overworked, undereducated, politically divided, afraid of being labelled as conspiracy theorists, and incompetent at STEM.
@@ZentaBon basic gaslighting 101
Such a huge breach of privacy. I absolutely hate the direction the world is going in.
We've been here
Actually... It's not a breach of privacy.... You've chosen to put a microphone in your pocket that is attached to a larger network of devices that are communicating consistently. Maybe buy a different phone? But no then you wouldn't have the new, fancy iPhone 53.5x with Obsidian lining and a *slightly* better camera than the 53.4y model. Everything has a price and I'm not talking about money.
@@user-ix1cr3tn7u oh look, a real life "well, actually" guy 😂
It is a breach of personal privacy, regardless of the fine print. The same way looking through a persons curtains are and then saying "well you shouldn't have had holes in your curtains then!". Sure, everything has a price, but not everything needs a price. What, products don't have enough markup already? our personal information also needs to become the product for a company to have even more profits? disgusting and morally wrong by all standards of humanity. If you have any technical knowledge then you will know how vulnerable and controllable having digital records your personal conversations are, and all in the name of selling you a new vacuum. Sure.
@@CrimeBeanus Oh look, an idiot. Thank you for using an analogy to prove my point. Why do people purchase curtains? To keep others from looking in.. ultimately, it is the homeowner/tenant/occupant's responsibility to protect their own privacy. This means, however, that if you want to let a little bit of light in, you have to accept the fact that someone can now see you... this is called a tradeoff. Doesn't really require any technical knowledge, but it still somehow escaped your understanding. Perhaps it's time to retire the CZcams account and pick up a few more books... HOWEVER, if you truly want to have the "who has more technical knowledge" conversation at least start with a solid understanding of things. For example, the internet (and the PLETHORA of digital records that exist). Your phone is connected to other phones and devices through a series of routers and switches. These devices all document the MAC and IP of every device that sends packets and frames through them. Now, in order for you to access these devices, you need an agreement with a company who is willing to let you borrow their infrastructure (aka ISP). You create an account with this company, and provide your address right? In exchange for your PII (personal identifiable information) you get the internet. So this means that somewhere out there is a table with your name, address, MAC, and IP. EVERY SINGLE PACKET AND FRAME THAT YOU SEND IS NOW TRACEABLE TO YOU. Is it a violation to possess this table? No. Is it illegal to inspect the packets for nefarious activity? No. So now let's bring the technical conversation back to the current topic. A device with a mic is in your pocket. You know it's there. In fact, you use this mic constantly to upload videos (with audio), make phone calls, etc. All things that you are aware use your mic. All things that "let the light in", so to speak. My question to you is, how do you justify complaining about privacy when you have willingly volunteered your information several times over in exchange for goods and services, only to now get upset that you are willingly volunteering your information for the pursuit of a more efficient exchange of goods and services? Oh and then there's morality and ethics. How moral is it to benefit off of the same system that you abhor? There's a saying about cake that I feel fits perfectly right here... I just can't remember it. TL;DR I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying deal with it.
@@user-ix1cr3tn7uApple isn't the only one participating in violating our privacy. Motorola, Samsung, Xiaomi, pretty much every single tech company does this nowadays. Just know that pointing and laughing at other people for using an iPhone and not reading the EULA ruffee fine print does nothing to help the cause besides feeding yourself with that extra bit of dopamine
I've gotten ads based on things I've never typed once into my phone, nor said in a call, but was saying to my father. I don't need a peer-reviewed study. I know my phone is listening in, and listen to this; I'm never buying a single thing advertised to me.
So, traveling years ago, a week of the same old elevator music was getting to me. I complained about it to a friend on the phone in the privacy of my room. Next day I noticed it had changed. Since then if music/ ads/ etc annoy me in some way, I make a point of fussing about it out loud when nobody should be listening. Fairly often it changes. That's the plus side of whatever this is... Sentient web or surveillance capitalism, just learn to make the most of it.
Amazon clearly listen. With a friend, i was speaking over how we could troll our school by lighting firework. That was my idea (we wouldn't actually do it) and my friend never searched anything about firework. But the same day, he got a mail from amazon with: "Those product might interest you" and with 5 different type of fireworks.
Yeah no shit amazon alexa does that. This is on phones tho
This happened multiple times with youtube. I say something, I didn't search it, it comes as ads in youtube.
It's really not that crazy to think that your phone is listening to you anymore. It's not just confirmation bias, these are massive companies who have no real reason to avoid doing this, especially when it's as profitable as it is. They literally skirt around every data collection law they can, what's another one to them?
lol, "companies"
The government passed the laws to allow the manufacturing of these devices in the first place but you think it's, "companies" ?
We don't have the technical capabilities nor the infrastructure to handle the massive amounts of data even just 1000 phones would generate. It's impossible.
@@andyz3225 that's definitely not true.
Speech to text would be needed anyway for queries and youtube has been able to handle hours and hours of video uploaded with no problem.
You don't think transcribed conversations with some audio added for parts that were tough to translate could be saved?
How much space does audio take up compared to 8k video?
@@Freakazoid12345 CZcams isn't processing and analyzing that data in real-time. And that's just server-side. They're also not receiving a constant stream of data from every single phone, only a small percentage of consumers upload to their servers.
@@andyz3225 yeah, but you were trying to argue that something that happens doesn't happen and that there isn't the infrastructure to support it.
Which is false.
You are probably a bot, for all I know.
Yes, this has been going on for years upon years. I was QA'ing software on mobile devices several years ago and we found that this is a thing. Yes....your phone is absolutely listening to your conversations
my coworker played banda music at work for 20 mins and i got spanish ads on my phone for the next week, also spanish spam callers too
I am going to word this comment very carefully.
I was once asked to sign an NDA stating I wouldn't disclose the technology or methods used to gain insight to an individuals susceptibility to certain marketing techniques.
Short version, yes they can listen to you and denying permission to your mic doesn't do anything to stop them.
...because their software is so heavily baked into devices (?)
I believe you.
@@jer1776 Why on earth would anyone believe what people say on the internet? Especially an anecdote from personal experience in a youtube comment. You must be mad.
I know you think you're trolling, but you've done such a bad job I kinda feel like I need to play into a bit so, uhhh. Pretend it's quantum information, like a Schrodingers An-cat-dote. It's both true and false until you bother to do some research and find out for yourself. Hows that? Feel better?
So the only way to stop them big tech governments listening to us is rooted our android? + iPhone users jailbreak their ass apple phones?
The "active listening" stuff is mostly from "smart" TV microphones, for those wondering.
What is crazy is I have been without a smartphone for months, and I am still being served ads on my computer after talking to my girlfriend about very, very specific things. Does her phone send the information to ad servers that then serve the ads to my Google account because it knows her and I spend so much time together? Does it know my voice? It is too spooky to only be confirmation bias.
All major corporations now profile users, including your appearance, voice patterns, fingerprints, and so on. Google has long created social networks based on which wifi networks you pass, who logs in to the same device (ever), and so on, combined with everything you've ever written in texts, e-mails, CZcams comments, etc. Google Analytics runs on most web sites on the Internet, this further tracks you -- what sites you visit, software you use, where your mouse moves, what you click on, how long you spend on the page, etc.
Be sure they know way more than you want them to know.
@@RavenMobileThe only real escape is to log off and even then, not really anymore.
Yes that's the only possible explanation. It can't be confirmation bias because it's too spooky. And we all know spookiness means it's more likely to be true. Like ghosts. The spookier the realer they are.
They use geolocation to serve similar ads to people in close proximity, so yes, they do know you two spend time together.
Not to belabour the obvious but… does that computer have a mike too? And is it running commercial software or open source?
"Active listening" is real, seriously dangerous and has been in effect for the past 10yrs or so.
Currently the best way around it is to physically disable the microphone by breaking the electrical contact or removing it completely from the phone and only plugging in a headset when making/taking a call. One of the reasons Apple ditched the 3.5mm jack
let me guess you're at least 30 years old
@@HarrisonMartinson No, 21 and I know that technology companies are absolutely the most scummy bottom of the barrel pieces of shit when it comes to data privacy and user safety.
@@cripstopheriii3509 yeah, tech companies are definitely scummy and have little regard for privacy. your distrust is normal and justified. however, the person I was replying to gave off facebook qanon vibes. people of all ages say goofy stuff but the particular style of the comment I replied to is more common the older you are. I've seen so many people like this (including minors, for what it's worth) and they're used to being treated like they're crazy. it's unlikely that this applies to you.
A speaker is approximately on the technical level the same or very similar to a microphone. Any speaker (a device that produces any form of audio output) can be abused as a microphone.
@@Suriprofz Technically true but I'm pretty sure they'd have to specifically design the hardware to pick up audio from the speakers. Can't just change it in software
How does this work in all party consent states like California or Maryland and many other states where there is required consent from all parties to record conversations. Surely, in the fine print terms of services would mean the phone sure "consented" to being recorded, but no way can it prompt everybody else within the range of the phone for their consent. So either this is illegal, or this is a loophole around the all party consent laws.
Yes.
Yep. Nobody is regulating this. In my case.. people see my posts to my family and friends, and they assume that they have rights to those private conversations. Next thing I know. I've got my wages stolen. Rumours flies to overseas. Bad mouthed about me. Then my family is targeted abroad. I had confirmation from sources here in the UK. Then even .... I asked my mother, I have never personally told you the details of what happened. How did you know what happened ????.... I never told her about the wages being stolen from the workplaces. Or the consistent frauds that went on ???.... The real truths ? The real truth is that crime takes place a lot... But people mask it in order to save the person from being jailed. I recall lots of people stealing stocks... When family members had actually had businesses. So you are always in the negative. To face that stress on you, along with carrying the weight of the banks, and of course prosecution of payments if you couldn't pay etc. I don't think that the employee cares about the directors positions. Jailing a director wasn't uncommon.... Of course the people today never knew that of those days in the UK. So this is why now more sole traders unstructured businesses exist. And uncontrollable credit card spending.... Some things are not worth it any more. As my teacher used to teach me... "Sticks and stones"..... Does not hurt, til you break my bones. Well... They broke half my body. I'm not competition. What am I competing for ???....
Google's NSA Letter says they can't admit to the active listening program. They can market it, though.
Probably 😂
I cant tell if op is being serious or not
@@JS-jr1fo Google had received numerous NSL's, and never fights them in court. They work closely with governments around the world. In the USA the NSA has major contracts with Google because they're better at analysing data spied from citizens.
it's been EXTREMELY obvious the target ads are listening on my phone. I'll talk about something at work, then get home, and youtube immediately recommends a video. I knew it was happening, but man it's unsettling how it is now. (I used to work in marketing online, it's...really kinda sick).
self hosted and Opensource CCTV is the only way to go
Honestly, i bought UniFi for the entire reason of "self hosting". for most people, i think it boils down to a time / cost equation. the "average" person doesn't want to know the ins and outs of Linux, docker, IP addressing, PoE, AI/ML (for image detection) they want a product that works and that they have a physical box in their possession (if they are semi security conscious).
A few years ago my friend and I were chatting about methamphetamine at breakfast, as is common, and a couple hours later we noticed that the personalized ads on both our phones had all changed to Sudafed ads.
I was just from experiencing this the other day. One minute im having an argument with someone about some product that ive never texted or talked to anyone about just one of those random things. The argument ends, i pick up my phone and facebooks recommending the same product to me to buy
My daughter was recently gifted a Furby by someone visiting from outside the country. After she got it, I said Furby a couple of times. I never searched for anything related to this or toys that would trigger these ads. Since then Reddit is full of Furby ads...
It's fun when the algorithm gives you a bunch of ads the things you just got and don't need/want another of. Advertizers are kinda getting a reputation for being kinda scammy in that either the impressions they give to people are just kinda of low value and only basically fulfilling the contract, or not even giving out the paid for number of impressions at all. Not that I care either way if advertizing is effective, I imagine they can be when they need/want to be for social or political pressure in their interests, but when they don't, they seem to be really slacking. :p
Maybe your daughter searched for it and they use source IP as a method of targeting ads?
This is why it's important to have hardware switches for things like microphones, cameras, wifi, etc.
I'm always suspicious when something shows up on my YT feed that I have discussed, but never done any kind of search for on the web. Sometimes these videos that show up are oddly specific.
Sure do love how Google scrapes discord chat logs for youtube recommendations. /s
Dunno if it's also scooping up discord voice calls tho.
Thanks my friend for keeping us up to date with the latest security news. I cba to check for them myself.
This is very easy to test. Talk about buying a new specific model of car. You’ll have ads for it the same day. Your phone 100% listens for advertising purposes.
I think their advertising SDK probably has this functionality. If an app developer integrates it in their app then that app could do this. However, the app would need to be on and would still require OS microphone permissions. I don't think the device on its own in the background is sending speech to advertisers.
Its possible to bypass most permissions on both apple and android.
@@nobodynoone2500elaborate?
@@nobodynoone2500 how
That's why I don't install random apps, that run on startup, on my android devices.
Wether this is enough, idk. I'm hoping it is.
@@nobodynoone2500 I imagine security bugs are use by government to target dissidents and not burned by advertisers trying to sell more twinkies.
Don't use cameras that are connected to (managed by) other people's servers for your own sake.
People need to remember that CCTV is supposed to be closed circuit. If it has internet access then you have a failed security product.
@@blunderingfoolsame with wireless cameras. A savvy attacker can easily disable those for the duration of a physical attack or intrusion. Is that in most people's threat models? No. But, it is possible.
By far the weirdest instance of this; I was in my living room listening to a VINYL of jimmy Hendrix that I bought at a yard sale with cash, barely even said the words “jimmy Hendrix” all day, and after I finished the album I picked up my phone and within the first 2 or 3 reels I saw on instagram was “hey Jimmy Hendrix fans! Check out my band”, never seen anything like that before
It does. Noticed data bursts occurring when speaking with the phone on idle.
Yup, they definitely are. When I was working at Amazon, I kept getting ads for Chime (a banking app of some kind?) due to making conversational references to _Amazon_ Chime (an internal app equivalent to Skype).
My Dad and I were talking about a car I've never looked up online and when I got home there were like 3 youtube videos about that car. What a coinky dink. It was a very obscure model as well.
Justin is absolutely spot on !
How anyone could think that our phones don't listen to us by now is beyond me. I've been having ads served related to conversations I have for Years. It's not even remotely subtle. I don't know how anyone could miss it unless they just don't talk to people very much. It's been a very real thing for a very long time.
Three reasons against too much evesdropping: it drains peoples phone batteries quicker, it eats up peoples data quotas quicker, and once exposed for either of those reasons, it becomes a PR scandal driving customers to the competition. All the more motivation for the tech giants to maximise people’s data quotas and to push the phone market towards phablets with bigger batteries: to make the hit less noticeable.
It's not possible with current technology and infrastructure. Besides, it wouldn't be efficient; there's enough data gathered through other means that's just as useful for effective targeted advertising, constantly streaming and analyzing massive amounts of data really isn't necessary, let alone feasible.
It is not only feasible but makes sense because of how the internet has changed to become another marketing arm of corporations. They want to know what you want and what you're thinking because it helps them sell you more stuff. Not only that, but it's personalized to every single person, and it's not like a person is going through each and every person's voice clip. It listens for keywords and phrases, interprets them, and that info gets sent to servers to get sold, along with other information about you.
@@andyz3225 😂😂🤣🤣 buddy look at youtube. This site literally has THOUSANDS of hours of HD video footage being uploaded every second. You think uploading and analyzing basic audio files is somehow out of the question in terms of infrastructure and technology??!! I mean surely you are just joking dude. Are you high? What are you talking about?
@@bestieswithtesties I suggest you do a bit more research on the subject before calling people "high" and suggesting that their joking. For one, you must be the one joking if you think CZcams handling user-uploaded content and processing it for storage, retrieval, and playback is the same as some ubiquitous computing entity (the cloud?) handling a constant 24/7 stream of audio data from millions of devices and performing real-time analysis, speech recognition, and data extraction, all for an ad that you probably won't click anyway. The differences are fundamental.
Great Video as always btw. ❤
I was talking to a fellow amateur over the radio. I had my personal phone with me, talked to him about lending him a landline telephone. 7am the next morning, I have a targeted advertisement to my corporate email inbox about SNOM landline telephones.
There is no coincidence, I don't sell telephones. I am very conscious about NOT connecting my work and personal life, including accounts on my smartphones.
Answer me that. Confirmation bias? I dont think so.
this is precisely why I'm bombarded with ads for pile cream and laxatives
I thought this has been going on for years? I literally say something and it pops as ads in youtube. I don't even know where they are listening. SmartTV perhaps? Aside from phones and tablets.
Ever since the first stories of this came out, I figured out how to turn on developer mode on my android and add a button to 'disable sensors'. This disables the microphone, camera and other sensors for the entire phone (not just apps) until you turn it on again. If they can still listen in then there's nothing else to do besides turning off the phone.
Turning off a modern phone or computer does not actually turn it off. It runs a low-power operating system (on PCs this is your UEFI, the update to the BIOS) that supports Internet and microphone access. Your phone still pings cell towers to track you. Your computer still sends data.
Besides turning off the phone, a couple more ideas: Put it in an RFID-blocking bag? Remove the battery if you can? Put the phone far away from you? Put it close to a noise source such as your aircon or ghetto blaster?
@@RavenMobile Are there any tests with proof that phones ping networks when off and/or airplane mode?
Over a decade ago the feds were bragging about how they caught an organized crime ring by remotely activating the microphone of a suspect /while his phone was turned off/.
@@RavenMobile I work with low-level software for phone modems and I can 100% say that, when it's turned off, it is turned off. It doesn't do anything remotely close to pinging cell towers. At least for anything from Qualcomm and Mediatek.
Always listening
My girlfriend and I play jokes on the listening ads, we basically pick a random topic to talk about for a week and just casually say sentences about it without ever typing it anywhere or being remotely near the item (Ie; Diapers, we don't have kids or any association with them) and we just wait for the ads to roll in. Give it a try. Just hard to narrow down what device it is when Tvs, Pcs, Phones, fucking toasters all have mics now
yes
yes they are
how have people only started worrying about this now
I know of this because one time i said to a friend something about an orange umbrella. And then over the next few days i would see ads for orange umbrellas.
I find it kind of ironic that seytonic says that cloud software is unsecure but takes sponsorships from cloud services every other video. I get money is money though.
I have a thick regional accent and dialect, and voice recognition services never work for me, but I still get those targeted ads.
They get the data in other ways, they've no need to collect your voice data.
I love your videos :)
We are not listening... WE ARE NOT LISTENING... YOU HEAR ME!!
I thought that this active listening stuff was pretty well spread and accepted by now
Also, look up ultrasonic cross-device tracking
Based Seytonic, I host my own "cloud" and has saved me tons of money already.
I was playing vivaldi 4 seasons as a joke, and a friend of mine was scrolling and got an add for a vivaldi concert. They never listened to vivaldi ever
Of course our devices listen and we get target based ads based on audio and not just other data such as searches and browsing. I use Pilfersush on my android devices that plays a tone thru the microphone while it's not in use ie a phone call, etc. Effectively putting a stop to their eavesdropping.
I have proof that our phones listen to what we say there is no way at all to deactivate no matter what phone you buy... sad but true
wonder if that is true for something like graphineos
I knew this was happening over several years ago when I would say something all of a sudden I was getting recommends ads for it on CZcams.
Literally asked my bud in the car to play that one song from super troopers one. Never listened to it on my phone didnt know the name, youtube recomended it the next day.
Yes they do. My father was talking about a specific check light on a car he was driving at a moment and then got a bunch of ads in the Playstore for apps about the check light even though he never searched anything about it.
It might depend on what apps you have installed/running, too. But yeah it's entirely possible the base installed OS/software on a phone may be as well.
@@Aeduo No apps or searches connected to that.
@@jeymendev I mean, some apps might have the spying built in and it's maybe not something on every phone.
@@Aeduo The thing is, the ads (recommendations) were on the Playstore, which means the spying is built in Into Android.
@@Aeduo Well, I think it's a Google (android) thing, rather than a phone specific thing (MIUI, OneUI, etc),
This is beyond ridiculous
I used a pore strip the other night and 5 minutes later I open up CZcams and one of my ads was for pore strips. Beforehand I had never even said the word pore strip. I find it hard to believe it’s coincidental my camera had to of picked up the product from either my bathroom counter or even more scary the front facing camera on my phone.
OK, but this happens when I only THINK about certain purchases, then I see the ads in my various web pages. I don't believe phones can read my mind YET...
Unifi is supposedly self hosted locally. But they make you register online to control anything. I don't understand why and I don't like it.
It was always obvious imo, however, Google saying it has nothing to do with it bothers me.
They clearly allow it
I've had this happen to me and friends who it has happened to as well.
The most absolute disgusting example just happened to me this past week, I was at a friend's house and we were playing some guitar, and I started playing a song I haven't heard or searched or even thought of in almost a decade now, legitimately such an old song, no way it could have possibly came up anywhere through search data. Yet when I get home and open up youtube, a cover for that EXACT SAME SONG was the first reccomended video....
2:00 okay but actually the part about Google and Amazon only waking to a key word is absolutely bull 5hit. They both have historically had groups (in subcontractors to distance themselves) to review audio recordings from the devices which includes conversations before and after keywords are used.
So I'm thinking my next phone will have a physical on/off switch for the microphone and camera. 🤔
Computers used to be like that in the early 90's.
But it makes it harder for the government to spy on people that way.
When it happens it stands out more for sure.
That is awful for HIPPA too. You know how many nurses/docs use smartphones/computers/tablets
I was just talking about this topic 😮
what Justin said was obvious truth and the fact that amazon and google denied it should be illegal
As a unifi protect user I'm bothered by the fact i wasn't even emailed letting me know that something has occurred, affected or not I shouldn't have had to hear about it from a CZcams video.
A few weeks ago Bauer MAT a very large construction company got hacked. No pc can talk to one another. Take look at it it's really interesting
most phones these days outright tell you when the microphone is being utilised, and most "active listening" is completely optional if you actually just sit down and take the time to look at your privacy settings. i havent gotten a targeted ad in years, and none of this is really anything new.
Active Listening will be standard in the new AGI world
4:39 There is a town called Beer Sheva. That's pretty cool.
I saw an ad a few years ago, (I think on youtube,) where facebook described how the messanger app listens to the mic and uses it to target ads, so I should buy ad space from them.
active listening should be illegal tbh
I dont actually know if im getting argeted ads based on my phone listening since I havent turned off adblock in years
They are most certainly listening. Not surprised
I like my on-prem systems... the cloud is just someone else's computer... and YOU don't have control over it.
it's great having a (almost) no cloud policy.
and a strickt f* the cloud policy in my home/lab
We've known this before and i personally have encounters
I’m a machine learning and systems engineer. If someone would have figured out how to keep your microphone active, processing speech and analyzing it while keeping your phones 8h battery: he would be a multi trillionaire 💰💰💰💰 for hundreds of more applications than serving you that underwear ad. Sadly, common sense is not so common.
this has been going on for years an years
the best solution is to rip open the back of your phone and physically disconnect the microphone
Yeah, I need to learn how to do that.
Can always plug in an external mic if needed...
If it is possible to listen through your phone, then someone is doing it. People should test by talking about product they have absolutely no interest in.
People have tested it and indeed it does listen to you
It's not that easy since the way you scroll also influences which ads you see. If you test this and hover over ads or content related to what you test, it will influence the result. I don't think advertisement companies need the voice data. They already have enough information on you.
We've all known that our phones listen to what we say.
This happens so often to me it’s obviously listening.
Yeah, my aunt who works at google said that "Google listens to everything you say.".
A few years ago I was sleeping and right before I woke up the theme from That 70's Show was playing in my dream. Later that day there were 2 articles related to the show in my Google new feed. I hadn't watched the show in years at that point so it was pretty creepy to know Google is reading my mind.
My school just got hit with Medusa ransomware. Seems like they are targeting more and more lately.
A speaker is approximately on the technical level the same or very similar to a microphone. Any speaker (a device that produces any form of audio output) can be abused as a microphone.
Police -> Cox Media Group.
Police: Knock, knock, warrant here.
It's been this way for nearly 10 years
Hey people, got any recommendations for a self hosted security setup? I'd like a doorbell cam and maybe 1-2 other cams for an apartment, and preferably would like a software solution to run on a Pi 4 with Docker. Would love to hear what you all have to say
damn like we did not know that years ago
Google only gives you ads for what they want not what you want
so their efforts are futile
I'm a bit disappointed that you didnt talk about LogoFAIL.
People have known this for years. Like this is some shock. Your mic is always hot. Perhaps even your camera when the light is not on. Fun fact, Android supports having the light turned off while recording. It's technically illegal in invasion of privacy, but who's really gonna stop them? I like the idea of companies being legally required to submit source code to a court when asked. But that's not gonna happen because nobody who actually runs the countries understands technology. Let alone programming.
If we have know this for years, where's the actual evidence of these claims? It's not hard to log these things from a technical point, and show the evidence. So what's stopping everyone, including you, from doing so? Are you in on the scheme?
@@dealloc There doesn't exactly need to be any logs. That's why it's so inconsistent. It's just whatever the microphone can recognize. And honestly, companies aren't even that happy with it. Because most of what they get is just a garbled mess. Even if they find workarounds to avoid the microphone permissions. Most of the power they have is covering up the ability that they do to do that. Honestly, if legislators they would be in so much trouble. There's nothing that exactly clears them either. Plus, all statements regarding an intentionally misleading. It's in all the agreements. There's been a lot of money put forth to do something that they're not doing.
@@dealloc Plus, you have way too much faith in a company that not your friend. They'll exploit you by any means necessary as long as they can get away with it.
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I can't speak for Android as it is device dependent, but camera and microphones are controlled in firmware and Apple makes it clear when they are engaged.
It will also appear in system logs whenever they are engaged and report which process requested it and whether it was granted access.
If this is truly something that is actively going on, as many people claim, it would have to be done by exploiting vulnerabilities in the firmware in order for it to not be detected. It would have been caught by security researchers and issued a CVE. We have yet to find evidence that such vulnerabilities are being actively used in the wild for marketing purposes.
Wild how these apps wouldve been considered adware/spyware and the creator would be thrown in jail 15+ years ago but somehow they've been normalized. One reason why I stopped installing most apps on my phone and just use by browser.
i didnt even think this was news, shit happens to me all the time