How to disassemble and maintain the Shirogorov Neon Zero Pocketknife (with MRBS bearings)
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- čas přidán 11. 10. 2019
- Today, we'll slowly take apart and maintain the Shirogorov Neon Zero, which features their "Multi Row Bearing System" (MRBS), with lots of free bearings.
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This is far and away the one of the most underrated monologues. I literally laughed out loud multiple times at Nick’s “thinking out loud”. Nick says he’s “not a genius” I say it’s subjective, “eye of the beholder”.
Helpful vid for takedown & reassembly, as usual. Thx!
Thanks for the detailed video! I usually place a piece of blue painters tape on the tip of my flathead screwdriver when I don't want to scratch something up with the driver.
Two Years Later and Still Giving Hope to the MRBS Disassemblers, Thanks Nick 😎
This might be a well known hack, but I’m gonna throw it out there. Try some gorilla take(tape in general) on the free spinning side of the pivot. I usually use a 1in or larger square. Seems to help me. Hope it helps others.
I haven't worked with loose bearings since servicing Campagnolo hubs in the 70's! I've chased a few around the room. Thanks for your honest review on servicing a very expensive knife.
Inspired by Nick's fun with bearings, I designed a test fixture at work using lose boron carbide spheres, small ones. Yes, I am not a brilliant man. Needs 42 balls, I bought 50, hopefully not too many escape each test.
I watched your Cold Steel Code 4(!!!) review and I bought a Code 4. I am in love with this knife. I'm also buying a Recon 1 soon. From one CS fan boy to another-Thanks
I own the Neon R20 and its the best knife I own. Better than Chris Reeve, Hinderer, or Curtis Knives. Expensive? Yes. Good? Oh, hell yes.
I ordered a neon r20 and the neon has been a grail for me. It is expensive but meh it is what it is and I don’t see that changing as much as I wish it would. Same could be said about tons of other knives. Thanks for the content nick 👍🤙
i am amazed those bearings weren't gone forever lol. you are brave :p
I got this knife back in August. I absolutely love it, except the damned pocket clip! It goes in fine, but when trying to get it out, it hangs on for dear life, trying to take picket material with. Now, I have 3 shiros, and I went to razors edge knives. They make and sell bits for shiros. They go for $63 a bit, and they fit standard handles, unfortunately, I don’t remember off hand, size. They also sell a handle that they fit into. It’s definitely a lot cheaper than buying the tool/pen, and the pivots are, generally, the same size. So, the pivot tool fits my neon ultra lite, neon zero, and f95nl. The body screws are different, and they haven’t made one for the zero, yet. The bits are made of the same titanium, 6al4v. The free spinning pivot is such a strange phenomena plaguing knives, and I don’t understand why one end can’t be “D” shaped somewhere the make disassembly easy. But, it is what it is, so, I use a latex finger glove. You can get them at anywhere first aid products are sold. They are for keeping water and moisture off cuts and so forth. I find this works very easy, and it overcomes the loc tite they use. These are expensive knives for what you get. But wow! The action and the fit and finish! I’m a bit of an action snob. A flipper knife has to not only...well...open, but it has to do it with a particular speed, and sound. I absolutely love shiro knives. They make such a satisfying “click”, both opening and closing. The three I have may be the end of my shirogorov adventure, unless something comes along that “I just gotta have”.
Shirogorov Neon R20 is the best knife I own. I'd buy it again if I had to.
Got mine yesterday, fantastic knife! First Shiro and likely not the last
As a lefty, I nearly died when my lefty f95 zero showed up yesterday! The war may put a damper on supply, just glad a lefty was made and available before anything too bad happens. I took it to the stones as it was only sharpish, totally mine now. It will not be my last so long as more lefty models come out.
Wow really nice looking knife !!! ^w^
Really stupid screws, but you still put the torx tool in the thumbnail for good matter. Good guy Nick.
For bearing knives check the bladeplay with the lock disengaged. The bearings should be tight in their races. Also always screw the knife together with the blade halfway closed, not with the lock engaged, this is what causes that binding and centering issues sometimes when you open it a first few times. A tiny drop on the detent is enough - adding more will make it drip onto the lock face and that’s a no-no! Of course it would only make a difference in real hard use.
Interestingly, Chris Reeve Knives also says to check blade play with the lock disengaged and they use washers instead of bearings
So it's safe to say this knife is no longer ridin' dirty.
In an effort to make the tiny Delica seem bigger, Nick has decided to call most knives "little guy" at the beginning of his videos. 👍
I’m starting to think the free spinning pivot is so it’s way harder too over-tighten the pivot screw. Do that and good luck getting Russian warranty Shirogorov to replace it and or help at all. The good ole you broke it so good luck with that routine.
I usually bend a ziptie into a tweezer shape the teeth in the ziptie act like a hook to keep the ball bearings in.
This makes the Sebenza look like an absolute bargain!!!
@ablackprep Not when it comes to a hostile environment. Those little bearings will turn into brakes if you drop that knife in fine dust. That's why hard use knives don't use bearings.
@ablackprep the 31 is out now I believe.
Power tools are the Secret to overcoming free spinning pivots.
Hey Nick. I just yesterday won that very knife over on the Reddit. Can’t wait to check it out.
Awesome, you got a great deal.
I’ll say...$10!! Being that I have action in the game that disassembly was way more disconcertingly nerve wracking than usual. Well done sir.
Nick can you get a review on the super freek
In this disassembly, Nick is literally dropping balls.🤦♂️
I notice the lockbar insert doesnt have any screw or fastener, does anyone think that could ever potentially be a problem? how is it attached/retained to the lockbar?
Not sure if you’re gonna check this because the video was a year old. I recently purchased a Shirogorov quantum ursus nl Antique tea tenant was murder on my finger. So hard to open. I heard it was just a single row bearings but I did not know they were loose bearings like the upgraded models. I had bearings fall out on my table which one of them seems to have got lost on. I looked for it for hours. Never found it. I’ve got ahead and worked on the detent since I had it apart and I put it back together and relieved it with one bearing missing. I thought that I was gonna be in trouble but I did a great job on the detent and it fires great. I do have a question though is there anyway that I can get replacement bearings just in case I lose another one like a dummy like I did this one ?
Nice
OMG those bearings are such a pain ... when nylon-caged (yes, the pop-in variant) multi-row ceramic bearings in that size cost close to nothing and work just fine.
I know it’s on the complete opposite end of the price spectrum of this knife, but could you do a disassembly of the CRKT Hollow Point? I wanna see how to take it apart, so I can take care of mine.
i see him rollin', i'm hatin'.
Do they make a similar model with bronze washers rather than ball bearings?
How much is your Jon and Eric knife selling for these days. I heard they are getting 8 big ones?
HELP! I can't find "Magnetic tweezers" anywhere! I've searched and searched and even when the search results state "Magnetic tweezers" when I open each page EVERYONE of them is NON-Magnetic! Do magnetic tweezers exist?!?
If you scratch the screws you can always order new ones from Josh at Razeredge.
Really, $750, never, never, never will I drink the Kool Aid that provokes one to loose their mind to the point they make such a crowd pressure, esteem driven decision. WTF this doesn't even have contoured scales. Congratulations Shirogorov if you can demand this kind on money for what appears to be a otherwise uninspiring knife. Unfortunately I will probably never have the opportunity to get one in hand to see what it's all about.
Says everyone who can't afford a Shirogorov.
@@jcolterh Wow, you walked right into the punch in showing that it is as much or more about the esteem of owning one of these alleged masterpieces than truly that they have something special to offer. It is not an affordability issue for me as I have many folders in the $300-500 price range and would have no problem selling a few to buy a Shiro if I ever found one worthy of the price but for now I will stay with the reality that no knife to me personally warrants this kind of price. Every collector has to find their own affordability level. Oh, if your looking for a Shiro BF has a shit ton of them collectors are dumping to help pay the rent.
A titanium, frame lock, flipper? No way!
If they use proprietary pivots and screws, at least make them look cool. Not an off centered flat head
Pac-Man!
its very obviously a design element that they carefully chosen. moreso its even a trademark at this point. if you dont like smthg at a knife in that pricesegment - you'll just need to move on or look for someone to machine you coustom screws. its that simple.
@Nick Shabazz dont get that either when he repeatedly asking for gd freaking torx on this bad boy. photoshop two, one gigantic bulky at the pivot and one lil, torxscrews one that knife and it would look horribly cheap and estetically unpleasant. or just look at the inkosi haha - and i fkn love crk btw.
To me that’s the only thing that makes this knife different from so many others. I think they needed to do this to make it stand out in some way because let’s face it, this thing is just a slightly different and massively overpriced Sabenza
"Free spining pivot" 700$+ knife here everybody
just a amateur Begg knives are the exact same way
@@Rothbardy i think when a 20$ sanrenmu has a captured pivot and any 100$+ knife doesnt have it, somethings not right
Can't unscrew this damn screw...
Sanrenmu 910 Land steel 12C27,bearing...
Sanrenmu 910 LAND?
I think the Arrangement Of the balls have no technical effect in this case. There have to be grooves.
2:29 makes me cringe $750 then scratches the blade across the scales....
not a brilliant man,great videos though.
Yeah shiro lost some of its appeal. Just like the grismo which is stagnant.
There are plenty of shiro like action knives now.
Grismo are even allowing people to choose their parts now. I bet the demand died out. For example , I finally got my turn in their lotto system after years and I didn’t want it anymore. I kept checking the link and it took a few weeks to sell despite the link going public in 24hours (Or 48hrs?)after I received it.
Even the Sebenza is getting updated. I will get the new one for sure. But I feel shiro has been boring for a long time. They need more custom division like finishing in their stock production knives. I’d rather get a cultrotech
Shirogorov: the "s" is for stupid. Stupid money for stupid construction and slotted screws. Quality, but stupid.
You pay 715 for a knife and don’t have the extra money to buy the correct tool from Shirogorov 🤦🏻♂️ stick with spyderco and benchmade sorry
I thought I was a bit harsh in my judgement when I commented in the review. Now I'm convinced, this knife is absolute garbage.
It's hard (for me) to consider a knife this absurdly priced as anything but crap. You can get a knife that is every bit as good as this knife in every way, for way less. So how could this knife be any good? 🤷🏻♂️
If you buy a 750 dollar pocket knife you're a bad person and you should feel bad.
Fully disagree with your anti capitalist viewpoint there friend. Buy what brings you joy. Its just money. You can always make more. Chill out.
I am and I do. And I'm not happy about it.
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