I just ordered one of these with all the other goodies 2 days ago and I have seen tunes on the wooden stock but yours is the first on the tactical. Thank you so much for doing this as I had no idea the stock had to be removed for this adjustment. Thanks to you now I know. Liked and subscribed!!
Still working on that. Making adjustments. I wanted to post a how to video about how to access the adjustment. I will post another with the results as well. I also write blogs for Pyramyd AIR and my journey with this rifle will be documented there. Tom Gaylord kicked it off with this one others will follow. www.pyramydair.com/blog/2023/10/air-venturi-avenge-x-precharged-pneumatic-air-rifle-part-one/
Noticed taking off my synthetic stock (at 3 turns in) the HS or housing was flush with the action. That would be 0 turns or all the way CCW with most guns. The avenge x from what I understand has a softer spring than the avenger. Probably why the AV x allows 8 turns over the AV’s 5. Softer spring but more adjustment.
Thank you for sharing I just got my 22 caliber tactical today and that part kind of confused me I thought it was one of the holes in the back. I've only had an hour with the gun so I didn't really mess with the tune I just kind of got it zeroed in and fired some jsb 18 grains. It definitely feels a little lighter than my 22 caliber avenger. I've only had the original avenger for a month and I fell in love with it. Glad I have both
Glad I could help. I always run a tin through a gun before I start tuning, just to let the parts break in so to speak, and let me get an idea of how it shoots from the factory. Then I start turning screws,…
Good to know. I'm relatively new to PCP and just got back into air guns. The most I've done on my original avenger in the past month is adjust the hammer spring slightly. I know you said you put a tin through but what are we talking 250 or 500ct? I'm not in a huge rush to start tuning. I like to find the guns preferred pellet / slug first My original is shooting 20 grain at about 890 -900 fps. My original.22 likes NSA .2165 20.2 grains, and for pellets, jsb 18.13 grain. I've tried seven other projectiles but none of the other ones were "bad" groups though. I did research before purchasing any PCP and I'm definitely not disappointed with the avenger series.
@@blindj yes the Avenger and AvengeX series were and are game changers. Personally I shoot about 500 rounds of different projectiles with factory settings, keeping notes about what weight pellets and slug’s perform best, then revisiting the best ones that show promise. The AvengeX does not seem to be pellet picky. I have not tried the NSA slugs as yet, but the H&N .217 show promise. So far the best performers in pellets are a tie between JSB 18.13, and the JTS 18.1 pellets. The JTS pellets seat a little harder in the bore though. From the factory mine was shooting the 18 gr pellets at 950, just a little fast for best accuracy Ian.
Great info for the second day in a row where I am so I don't want to bring my chronograph outside. I can shoot while it is raining from underneath my deck / sunroom however the chronograph does not work under there because it is too dark.. not sure what my avengers shooting 18 grain pelletsat yet. I do have FX pellets jsb pellets and h&n 21grain which was the favorite of my avenger as far as pellets goes. Accuracy seems to be great around 890 to 900 on most of the projectiles I've tried. I am actually legally blind and use a blind cane at night. So my shooting distance is no further than 50 yrs more often than not it's 25 yards. I thought I was all done with shooting because of my vision I am so glad I tried it again. I'm having a blast
This is very helpful! I'm looking to do the same with a new Avenge-X. So, I am correct that the procedure you used enabled you to determine that the hammer spring was initially set at 8-1/4 turns in? Then you backed it all the way out and started with 1/2 turn in, going up incrementally from there until you reached your goal? What confused me, though, is that you appeared to back it all the way out twice. Can you clarify the steps? Love your videos! Thank you very much...
Ian, do you happen to know what size o-ring is needed for the rear pellet probe o-ring of the .22 caliber Avenge-X? I know the size for the front pellet probe o-rings, but I can’t find the size of the rear one. Thanks!!
Bravo, would your opinion be that this is the best rifle for the money,so far? Or is the Airicudu Max competitive? How about ease of working on? And simplicity?
I own both. The Airacuda has been in shooters hands for almost 3 years now including the prototype guns. The flexibility of the Avenge-X platform puts it in a different category than the Airacuda max, which has no upgrade path, you buy a max and either YOU design and make a different stock, or wait for someone to do that. . Air Venturi gives you the flexibility to change calibers, air supply, and stock configurations. At this point in time for the money spent, the Avenge-X is the best bang for the buck. Hope this helps. Ian.
I am still tuning. Right now with Jsb18.13’s getting about 895, with 0 turns on the hammer. The regulator is set at what it came from the factory. About 2200psi.
Well mine came set @1900 on the reg. I never messed with the hammer spring shooting jsb 18.13 gr @900-912, Crossman 14.3 @990-984, I've run a tin threw it. But she is a tack driver all day.
I have something to ask if may ? If you want to change out the stock hammer spring on a PCP air rifle and you can't get any info about the stock hammer spring from the manufacturer how do you know what the strength is of the stock hammer spring so that you can buy a heavier spring ??
I THINK you measure the diameter of the wire of the spring, and how many coils per inch (or centimeter) depending upon where you live. Those two numbers and plugging it into Google will probably be able to get you the right idea of where you need to be to get that information. I do know most people order their springs from McMaster Carr. I hope this helps, but Spring rates are not really my forte.
Well I got one and the buffer tube does not screw into the gun using the treads at the end of the buffer tube and is a special buffer tube. It has a 6mm screw inside the buffer tube to fasten it to the gun. It also has 2 slots that the buffer locks in to. So a folding stock does not work unfortunately. Piss pour design in my opinion. Tactical stock with a lack of access to the hammer spring adjustment. Not vary tactical at all.
I appreciate your videos. But to be honest, if you need to write down factory settings, you probably shouldn't be fooling with it anyway. Anyone with decent knowledge of tunes and a chronograph, should have no problem with this rifle. And factory tunes are usually the worst in my experience. Turning the reg and hammer spring to the lowest setting and then working them up together always produce the best results. You can leave the transfer port open and then reduce it to lower fps after the basic tune.
For those of us that would deal with them on a regular basis yes, that is true but some of the people who are watching this videos or reading the articles that I write for Pyramyd AIR, this may be their first PCP so I have to approach that in such a way that the person who is watching it or reading it. This may be their first exposure to anything like that, it helps the new people not to make the same mistakes we did when we first started.
What do you write for Pyramid Air? I will read your content. I am a big supporter of Pyramid Air. Everything I purchased new was from Pyramid and AOA. I love the Air Venturi brand and I haven't had any problems with mine. The reg creep went away after a few thousand shots. Iam speaking of the Avenger 177cal. I truly believe alot of people purchase these guns and have no idea what they are doing. Some even make videos showcasing their lack of knowledge. This doesn't bother me except for the fact that they usually destroy the reg, or don't give the rifle proper break in and then want to send it back. Which results in the cost going up for us all, when there was nothing wrong with the rifle in the first place. Liked and subscribed. 🎯
Thank you Heath, I write some of their web content. And guest blog on their daily (Monday-Friday) blogs that is normally done by Tom Gaylord “The Godfather of Airguns”. Below is a link to todays blog that is one of mine. If you use the blog search in the top right you will find more of my content. Just search for Ian McKee or 45 Bravo. . www.pyramydair.com/blog/
![Avenge-X - First Shots and Sighting In [VERY IMPRESSED]](/img/n.gif)
I just ordered one of these with all the other goodies 2 days ago and I have seen tunes on the wooden stock but yours is the first on the tactical. Thank you so much for doing this as I had no idea the stock had to be removed for this adjustment. Thanks to you now I know. Liked and subscribed!!
Thank you,
Still working on that. Making adjustments.
I wanted to post a how to video about how to access the adjustment.
I will post another with the results as well.
I also write blogs for Pyramyd AIR and my journey with this rifle will be documented there. Tom Gaylord kicked it off with this one others will follow. www.pyramydair.com/blog/2023/10/air-venturi-avenge-x-precharged-pneumatic-air-rifle-part-one/
Looks like you can remove the castle nut and remove the tube for easier access.
Very nice rifle.🤠
I just own one of this. I'm Proud of it.
Noticed taking off my synthetic stock (at 3 turns in) the HS or housing was flush with the action. That would be 0 turns or all the way CCW with most guns. The avenge x from what I understand has a softer spring than the avenger. Probably why the AV x allows 8 turns over the AV’s 5. Softer spring but more adjustment.
Thank you for sharing I just got my 22 caliber tactical today and that part kind of confused me I thought it was one of the holes in the back. I've only had an hour with the gun so I didn't really mess with the tune I just kind of got it zeroed in and fired some jsb 18 grains. It definitely feels a little lighter than my 22 caliber avenger. I've only had the original avenger for a month and I fell in love with it. Glad I have both
Glad I could help.
I always run a tin through a gun before I start tuning, just to let the parts break in so to speak, and let me get an idea of how it shoots from the factory.
Then I start turning screws,…
Good to know. I'm relatively new to PCP and just got back into air guns. The most I've done on my original avenger in the past month is adjust the hammer spring slightly.
I know you said you put a tin through but what are we talking 250 or 500ct?
I'm not in a huge rush to start tuning. I like to find the guns preferred pellet / slug first
My original is shooting 20 grain at about 890 -900 fps. My original.22 likes NSA .2165 20.2 grains, and for pellets, jsb 18.13 grain. I've tried seven other projectiles but none of the other ones were "bad" groups though. I did research before purchasing any PCP and I'm definitely not disappointed with the avenger series.
@@blindj yes the Avenger and AvengeX series were and are game changers.
Personally I shoot about 500 rounds of different projectiles with factory settings, keeping notes about what weight pellets and slug’s perform best, then revisiting the best ones that show promise.
The AvengeX does not seem to be pellet picky. I have not tried the NSA slugs as yet, but the H&N .217 show promise.
So far the best performers in pellets are a tie between JSB 18.13, and the JTS 18.1 pellets. The JTS pellets seat a little harder in the bore though.
From the factory mine was shooting the 18 gr pellets at 950, just a little fast for best accuracy
Ian.
Great info for the second day in a row where I am so I don't want to bring my chronograph outside. I can shoot while it is raining from underneath my deck / sunroom however the chronograph does not work under there because it is too dark.. not sure what my avengers shooting 18 grain pelletsat yet. I do have FX pellets jsb pellets and h&n 21grain which was the favorite of my avenger as far as pellets goes. Accuracy seems to be great around 890 to 900 on most of the projectiles I've tried. I am actually legally blind and use a blind cane at night. So my shooting distance is no further than 50 yrs more often than not it's 25 yards. I thought I was all done with shooting because of my vision I am so glad I tried it again. I'm having a blast
@@blindj Glad you still get to enjoy the hobby,
This is very helpful! I'm looking to do the same with a new Avenge-X. So, I am correct that the procedure you used enabled you to determine that the hammer spring was initially set at 8-1/4 turns in? Then you backed it all the way out and started with 1/2 turn in, going up incrementally from there until you reached your goal? What confused me, though, is that you appeared to back it all the way out twice. Can you clarify the steps? Love your videos! Thank you very much...
Ian, do you happen to know what size o-ring is needed for the rear pellet probe o-ring of the .22 caliber Avenge-X? I know the size for the front pellet probe o-rings, but I can’t find the size of the rear one. Thanks!!
Buen dia hay forma que se pueda quitar solo la culata del avenger x táctical. Si es asi me puede explicar gracias
Can sideliver move to left ?? Thanks 🙏
Detach from the buffer tube
That's the first video of tuning for avenge x. Can you provide a tutorial how to take off shroud and air stripper
Absolutely, I will make one this evening and post it.
I think you should just remove the castle nut and unscrew your butt stock. Much easier than what you showed....just a thought.
Bravo, would your opinion be that this is the best rifle for the money,so far? Or is the Airicudu Max competitive? How about ease of working on? And simplicity?
I own both.
The Airacuda has been in shooters hands for almost 3 years now including the prototype guns.
The flexibility of the Avenge-X platform puts it in a different category than the Airacuda max, which has no upgrade path, you buy a max and either YOU design and make a different stock, or wait for someone to do that. .
Air Venturi gives you the flexibility to change calibers, air supply, and stock configurations.
At this point in time for the money spent, the Avenge-X is the best bang for the buck.
Hope this helps.
Ian.
Great video, what were your final numbers and turns on your tune?
I am still tuning. Right now with Jsb18.13’s getting about 895, with 0 turns on the hammer. The regulator is set at what it came from the factory. About 2200psi.
Well mine came set @1900 on the reg. I never messed with the hammer spring shooting jsb 18.13 gr @900-912, Crossman 14.3 @990-984, I've run a tin threw it. But she is a tack driver all day.
I have something to ask if may ?
If you want to change out the stock hammer spring on a PCP air rifle and you can't get any info about the stock hammer spring from the manufacturer how do you know what the strength is of the stock hammer spring so that you can buy a heavier spring ??
I THINK you measure the diameter of the wire of the spring, and how many coils per inch (or centimeter) depending upon where you live.
Those two numbers and plugging it into Google will probably be able to get you the right idea of where you need to be to get that information.
I do know most people order their springs from McMaster Carr.
I hope this helps, but Spring rates are not really my forte.
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Does your reg take forever to recharge after a shot?
No, it actually recovers fast, it came set at 2200 psi, and 2 turns in from all the way out.
@@45bravoairguns4 hmm
Put a folding stock mount and you just fold the stock and adjust.
Have you actually tried this?
@@45bravoairguns4 works on my modified Avenger, and modified Notos.
@45bravoairguns4 if this is a standard AR15 type stock then yes it will work no problem.
Well I got one and the buffer tube does not screw into the gun using the treads at the end of the buffer tube and is a special buffer tube. It has a 6mm screw inside the buffer tube to fasten it to the gun. It also has 2 slots that the buffer locks in to. So a folding stock does not work unfortunately. Piss pour design in my opinion. Tactical stock with a lack of access to the hammer spring adjustment. Not vary tactical at all.
Where made sir..?
China.
But a lot of gun for the money!
I appreciate your videos. But to be honest, if you need to write down factory settings, you probably shouldn't be fooling with it anyway.
Anyone with decent knowledge of tunes and a chronograph, should have no problem with this rifle. And factory tunes are usually the worst in my experience.
Turning the reg and hammer spring to the lowest setting and then working them up together always produce the best results. You can leave the transfer port open and then reduce it to lower fps after the basic tune.
For those of us that would deal with them on a regular basis yes, that is true but some of the people who are watching this videos or reading the articles that I write for Pyramyd AIR, this may be their first PCP so I have to approach that in such a way that the person who is watching it or reading it. This may be their first exposure to anything like that, it helps the new people not to make the same mistakes we did when we first started.
What do you write for Pyramid Air?
I will read your content. I am a big supporter of Pyramid Air. Everything I purchased new was from Pyramid and AOA.
I love the Air Venturi brand and I haven't had any problems with mine. The reg creep went away after a few thousand shots. Iam speaking of the Avenger 177cal. I truly believe alot of people purchase these guns and have no idea what they are doing. Some even make videos showcasing their lack of knowledge. This doesn't bother me except for the fact that they usually destroy the reg, or don't give the rifle proper break in and then want to send it back. Which results in the cost going up for us all, when there was nothing wrong with the rifle in the first place.
Liked and subscribed. 🎯
Thank you Heath, I write some of their web content. And guest blog on their daily (Monday-Friday) blogs that is normally done by Tom Gaylord “The Godfather of Airguns”.
Below is a link to todays blog that is one of mine.
If you use the blog search in the top right you will find more of my content. Just search for Ian McKee or 45 Bravo. .
www.pyramydair.com/blog/