Hyperion vs Govee TV Backlight - Is DIY better than a kit?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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My Hyperion Setup
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One big upside of Hyperion is that it works with addressable leds instead of strips with addressable led zones. The effect can be a lot more precise and detailed. This can be really spectacular with scenes like street lights passing by on a street at night, with the glow exactly following the glow on screen. I have used a setup like this for race simulation games and it is amazing how much immersion it can add so dark scenes.
I have almost" finished" my room done with the Phillips Hue lights. I tried to pretend I wasn't droppin close to 2 grand on lights so I purchased a few lights at a time with a week or 2 in between purchases to make me feel a little better about myself. Silly?... Yes but it worked and I love em. I actually started with the Govee set up but I kept getting frustrated with different things and finally gave up. I'm not here to rip on Govee infact I really like a bunch of their stuff and still have some of their LED strips in stalled under my bed and stuff. If you wanna get crazy with it you can have your Hue sync to your TV picture and the Govee sync to the sound from whatever you are watching 😁. Can't wait to see what the future holds for lighting cause it's f**kin awesome
For Hyperion, it should be noted that some gaming consoles can detect when they're connected to a capture card and will limit some features (looking at you, Nintendo Switch). This is because they're often used to record HDMI signals, so while doing it for gaming is fine, they'll do what they can to prevent pirating. Wouldn't be surprised if other hardware does the same. Honestly annoying though, since clearly recording isn't the only use for them.
Great video, which version of govee did you get? I didn't realize there were 2 available on Amazon for same $, and difference is noticeable. It looks like you have the H61991, which is the better of the 2 (h6104 being the other). The are a few things to do to the Govee that will significantly improve performance on all fronts. 1. Try bottom mounting the camera, the app has the option, and most people see a slight increase in response when installed this way. 2. When calibrating the camera in the app, place the points slightly past the edge of the screen, and also use the CZcams calibration video and skip the orange blocks altogether. Finally, in the Govee app, set the saturation to 0% and brightness to around 40 to 50, this will fix the white problem. Govee actually has a pretty decent white, but when the saturation is past around 10, for some reason it goes blue. Anyway I hope this helps anyone and maybe try this on your setup and see how well it performs!
Good information, I ordered 2 sets of the Immersion systems and a set of the towers for a monitor, I ordered directly from Govee because they had a 25% off promotion and free shipping, every system ended up being flat $60, hard to pass by, I would think they are the newest version of the set, they only had one... Ty
@@AstraMilitarumFodder Prime Day they have it for $49. I was going to do Hyperion, but it will be so much cheaper to do Gobee.
Thanks for this. I should be receiving my Govee today and will be trying this out. I was worried about the whites, but hopefully this fixes that problem
@@dayngerkat6760 how did it go?
The Govee backlighting on steady glow has been a game changer. I will not go back to watching TV without the backlight. It is so much better.
Just for added insight. You can add a splitter with selector switch (i have 3 into 1 out) on my hyperbian setup. Basically its 4k at 60hz with HDR and dolby vision. Its a setup that blows hue and the inaccuracies of govee out the water. Just wanted to help people make the best choice, the hyperion setup. You must be on the DIY nerdy electronics side tho lol. If your not good with electronics just grab the govee setup lol. Govee is great for what it is... And its some what cheap cost. Thats my 2 cents. Hyperion can definitely have more than one source.
I'm fully invested in HUE sync, 5 Play Bars, 2 HUE bulbs, Light Strip V2, Sync Box and a 65" Gradient Strip. And I know now, that when it all starts to give up, I will be replacing it all with Govee... I started with Govee and I'll end with it it seems...
I'd just like to say thank you for the well made, informative video, with none of the normal ridiculous youtube bullshit. Very nice. Subscribed!
Thanks, I'm trying to make videos I would want to watch.
Yes short and easy he got me too
If you use same boxes with Coreelec or libreelec firmware ( any android box with dual boot) you can use Hyperion add-on. So your price for ambilight will be lower. Or you can have ambilight on PC monitor with Wled FW on esp chip like d1mini and prismatic software running on pc. It's pretty awesome playing game with ambilight.
you want to bring the blocks in a bit when you scan especially on the sides give the camera more info and the sides will be synced better. the best govee guy on youtube shows you how to get everything accurate, including better white /grey lighting response
To anyone wondering, no you don't need to put all the hyperion hardware on the back of the TV.
All you need are the following:
A long HDMI cable if you moving everything but the LED strip away from the TV (look at Fiber HDMI cable if you need more than 15 feet)
A 3 wire speaker cable going to the LED Strip on the back of the TV
A logic level shifter connected to the data wire of the speaker wire (you can buy a DigiUno from QuinLED if you don't want to solder)
You are going to connect the LED Strip to the speaker wire > Speaker wire to both LED power supply and Raspberry PI (Make sure you connect ground wire pin from the power supply to the raspberry pi).
It will never be perfect, there will always be a mixture of colors constantly sometimes it shows color when the object is a tiny little thing will end up lighting a whole corner, you don’t even focus on the light you’re focused on the tv.
In my opinion the govee full TV set with two standing bars I picked it up for 90$
Works great with the strips and separate backlight put on the sides or bottom of the tv stand to extend the lights looks amazing.
Works very well has a great app and a lot of features for music and standard and custom light setup.
You can just hide the camera on the bottom if your tv also not even mounted just lay it on the stand if you have one or below it hidden in some decoration if you don’t wanna see it.
I started with Govee LED strips. They lack compatibility and customization. Hyperion is drastically better. It isn't even a close comparison. I do not use capture cards. I've always built my own PC and just use that as my only TV source for a long time now. You can pretty much watch anything you want with a computer. I don't mind the extra labor and time it takes to learn the skills and find the knowledge to make things the way I want them to be. It's been a year now since you posted this and Govee still lacks integration worth using unless you get the high end devices. You can build them better and cheaper.I still use all my govee items I got originally. Not hating on them, but you cant even compare them to fully customizable.
Great video
And super quality
Screenshot this and share it when u have million subscribers
Biggest problem I have found with Hyperion is finding an HDMI splitter or capture card that will pass 4k60 HDR10 to my TV and work with HDCP 2.2 content.
I used the AVStar splitter off amazon. 30 bucks and now my hyperbian setup is 4k with hdr and dolby vision. It sends one signal untouched and the other downscaled to your pi. Which now makes hyperion best of the 3... Hands down.
After almost a week of searching, I managed to find a relatively cheap splitter ($14) that ticks all of these boxes.
@@kamilmagomedov2070 Do you have a link? Cheers
@@kamilmagomedov2070 It be nice of you to share what the name is at least.
With govee you can get accurate colour if you buy an ND Filter in front of your camera
Nice, which ND filter do you recommend?
Mate, in the instructions for govee, it literally says to peel off the orange squares from one end, not all at once. Not sure why you superglued them to your screen either, you can just barely touch them on for an easy removal
Is there no company yet that created a non DIY way to setup a hyperion setup?
there was one but either Philips bought them or attacked them with their legal team. it was "dreamscreen"
When using the Govee orange blocks use masking tape to stick to the tv not the adhesive on the blocks that can and might damage the tv the masking tape will not hurt your tv
Use the CZcams video, soooo much better!
Great video man. Keep it up because you'll have a ton of subs someday.
It used to be 25 and now 435
This channel is great and gaining subs quickly but I would like it to have 1k because it seams like he makes quality videos
Thank you. You were one of the first to follow this channel and have been a great source of motivation to keep going.
A great way to improve the govee is to put an ND filter over the camera. Neweer makes one. Essentially with the ISO being so high on the govee, it can misrepresent some colors. This helps it to tame that and produce much better results. Just be sure to recalibrate. I have seen much better and precise govee lights on CZcams than what youre showing in this video
Is it specifically for the govee? Or is it basically made to generically fit on a cell phone? And what ND level?
@@jasonfay2250 this is specifically for govee. And I would check the newer one out because it fits the best. And the nd level will be dependent on the brightness of the tv. You'll have to tinker with it
@@SpencersStuffTV Thanks!
@@jasonfay2250 you're welcome! I wish I could be more help
I like Govee, but I don't like the camera. I have a Receiver that has HDMI switching, even if the receiver is turned off, so Hyperion works well. The camera feels like a privacy invasion. Hyperion does have a bunch of other options where you can send an image from the TV to Hyperion, meaning Hyperion can run multiple inputs even a camera (totally local) if you needed to. If your TV has a HDMI output it's even easier. Hyperion is certainly not for everyone though. You do need to know how to tinker a bit, but once it is done it doesn't need any maintenance.
Depending on the RGB strip quality will depend on how well white works. Mine are only RGB and white is definitely a perfect white with my strip.
What these reviewers and Govee do not tell you, is that it takes 21ft of LED strip to cover an 85"inch TV from corner to corner, they sell and advertise a set of immersion lights for TV from 75-85" but that kit only comes with 16.5 ft of LED strips, that does not cover your 85" inch TV, and the corners will be awfully dark.
The Govee system is a non-starter for me, I'm not trying to constantly see that camera sitting there on top of my TV.
You can always hide the camera, but at the same time I hardly ever notice it
@@NickRains hide it? You can't it has to see the TV. You could put something over it I guess but that would look even worse
I have a PC connected to my AVS with my TV. Can I use my PC instead of Pi and an capture card?
I watch most things on the TV via app so something like govee is the only solution for me. I think it's very sensitive to its own reflections which is why colors stay. Also some TVs are very dependent on viewing angle so colors might appear different to the camera. Saw some use polarized filters and else for compensation. Didn't try it yet but probably when it's on sale again.
If you are using android tv, Hyperion can work directly on your android tv. The govee is extremely easy to setup but the more I use it the more I dislike it. For me, Hyperion was worth the effort.
@@NickRains my LG has web OS but thanks for the hint
@@NickRains I've seen in the Hyperion forum, people use Hyperion along with camera's could you see if that gets the same results|?
Another disadvantage of the HDMI inputs is any apps on your tv, won't work it either.
You forgot to mention, that Hyperion because of the video capture device will not sync colours from apps like CZcams, Netflix, etc. Yes, you can leave it static, of course, but no reaction to what's happening on the screen. Govee does not have such limitations, since it's using a camera to map the colours behind the TV. Too much work, if you ask me, to synchronise Hyperion colours only when you are using external source. Plus forget about 4k 120gz and dolby atmos.
Which govee version did you use? Supposedly the 2.0 is a nice upgrade from the original
He used the 2.0. it's in the description.
@@SpencersStuffTV It is not in the description. It's a link to the website. Which doesn't mean that he used the 2.0 because once one came out, the other one went away. Thanks for trying!
@@sockhatabe he used the govee that he bought in the description. This is the version 2. You can tell it is because the camera is longer
Can I buy the better leds for the grovee like the ones your using for your diy
I use hyperion (hdmi grabber) on rpi zero w and I'm very happy with the results. Accurate colors and fast response.
The govee with camera looks weird.
Truth, the camera is FUGLY.
Hi, great video. Can you make another video on how to make hyperion lights react to music
I have the govee and it was all set up in 15 minutes
please makea video on connecting prismatik with wled
prismatik is a software used in pc to send screen captured data to arduino and then to the rgb strip
it will help a lot
and you explains everything very nicely
plzz plzz
there are YT Videos for calibratibg the govee so you dont need to put the blocks
Nice! If I'm honest though, I don't think the blocks are necessary anyway since you see your tv in the app.
There is a CZcams video that displays orange blocks on your screen. That's what I used and it worked great.
Does anyone know if you could replace the govee led strips with WLED lighting to offset its issues? Or is its hardware simply not compatible?
Do the govee lights work on curved tvs
Just grabbed the govee t2 and I have the diy on my other tv and I got a deal on it for Black Friday but I will say the camera system is lowkey ass definitly delay and color accuracy is really really bad I had to return my sadly also the camera does block some leds on the top I dunno it just wasn’t for me. But I am an ocd person when it comes to perfection.
Adalight with an arduino is best
Its cheap and no capture card just a usb cable much cheaper and same or better quality
I just need this for my main Windows PC, I wonder if there is software out there that will simply read the color values of the pixels on the edges and translate that to the LEDs. That would remove the need for a capture device. I'm running at 8K.
You can do exactly this with Hyperion
@@NickRains Interesting, thanks!
How does Govee do when watching widescreen movies? How do the the top and bottom black bars affect it?
You can choose to average out the display brightness and colors, so the black bars wouldn't effect it then. But even on the normal setting, the black bars aren't much of an issue
Great video ! I've also used both Hyperion and govee.. recentlyI switched to Hyperion for the accuracy. Was wondering, how did you solve the flickering issue ? I have to unplug the capture card from the pi and replug it in to a different USB every time I turn the setup back on again. Also Did you connect your Hyperion to a smart home hub like home assistant to automate the on and off process? Thanks !
I did hook it up to home assistant and I have several flickering issues. One being that the capture card would sometimes just show static. But the main flickering issue was solved by making the lights wled lights.
This video at 20:15 shows a logic level converter to solve flickering: czcams.com/video/dbf3Fx9gKqU/video.html
@@SteashEdits Listen to what this person said. I fixed my issue with the logic level converter connected to the data cable.
I had Hyperion running perfectly for like 6 months, then one day the capture card wasn't sending a image and the LED would cycle through the colors. I'd reset everything and then it would crap out again and the LED would cycle. So I got a new capture card, after some fiddling it worked. But it only works for a day or a few hours and then the LED just start cycling through the colors again. The image is still working but the LED just go wacky. I thought the Captrue card was over heating.. so I took it out of the metal case, no luck. Any ideas? thx!
What capture cards are you using?
Are you using the same power supply for your lights and capture card and pi?
Also depending on how many LEDs you’re using, you might need to power inject and add another ground.
Is it the alitove power supply?
I’m actually working on updating (fixing) my Hyperion setup because I’m having similar issues. My problem seems to be the less not getting enough power. So I’m power injecting.
For those with using streaming apps on Smart TVs, govee is the only option, correct?
Possibly. If your smart tv is running Android TV, you might be able to use an app called Hyperion screen grabber. I'm going to try it out and see how it compares.
It seems like I will probably be making a Hyperion video soon.
@@NickRains I checked this a while ago and it looks like it depends on the streaming app and their DRM. For instance, I don't think it'll work with Netflix or Amazon Prime app, but it will with Plex. Can't wait for your video though :)
70 inch ??????
Govee is the best value our there, cheaper and the app is so feature packed. There are videos out there to show how to get accurate colour. Still you get what you pay for, govee cannot compare to the more expensive systems. It's like comparing a mini to a Ferrari so this review is a bit silly. Govee is a great system for what your getting
can you use RGBW strip lights on the govee?
No, only the provided lights will work with the govee controller
Thanks for the warning, cool always associated with flashing, lol
Why didn't you try out and show the Hue set up? You are making a video for people to watch and make up their minds on what they should get and you leave out the leading companie currently in LED lighting. And your only reason was cause it's to expensive? Not every wants to buy something just cause it's cheaper especially electronics. It's like making a video about new TVs (when their only like 3 companies too) and saying well I'm not going to do the 3rd one cuz they're just too expensive. LOL WTF? Some people are willing to put out a little more to have something really nice, like OLED TVs! They are to expensive for me but I'm not hate on them or assume that cause I cant afford it no one else will be able to either.
Hyperion work with smart TV apps?
no since it needs to process the signal trough a HKDMI capture card
There's a android app if you have an android tv
Or even your phone if you stream from it
What i think... Govee is the best option right now if you don't want Philips hue.
see im getting tired of watching these videos. im not getting that kind of quality from this product. black images are coming out with the white pinkish light. and I've recalibrated it over and over and I can't find out whats wrong. when I look through the camera it shows the image of the screen and with black screen it shows a greyish image which im guessing is causing it to give that white image on the light.
summation i get from this is: Don't do this because it is a pain in the azzzzzzzzz
Pretty much. I’ve been thinking about making a how to since every tutorial I followed either skipped some steps, or I just had issues that nobody else had.
Govee bars easier still
these are useless😂😂 i am using complete diy with arduino nano and ambibox android app
works like charm
You having a different solution does not make these useless, silly.
He sd antenna! 🤦🤣
He moves his head too much. It's too distracting. Well that getting neutered makes you.
His head isn't on camera very much. Please link to your CZcams videos so we can criticize you for something. =D