But it is not that terrible because he can make the silver shot and sell it 60% higher than cost. Besides he tought as a good lesson, sometimes what looks legit is indeed legit
@@sreetips My brain still can't fully comprehend that you "fixed" that coin into electrolyte and *poured* *it* . Into a metal bowl in which it will rematerialize into pure silver crystals along with the silver shot.
Those Canada coins have a tremendous premium. Not so much when they first come out but when the bullion dealers are out of stock easily a much higher premium coin and very liquid. Canada has security features built into that coin. I do not recommend anyone shave or damage their coin. This will absolutely ensure you will never get a premium over spot from anu collector. A Sigma analytics precious metal machine is best when in doubt.
I like the acid test - it never lies. Plus I can fix the coin and get a nice premium price for the silver. One of the advantages of refining your own silver at home.
Silver futures price has fallen so fast in the last 16 weeks that dealers who bought silver at $18 an ounce months ago are not going to sell it to the public at current spot price of say $12 + their normal premium of $1 to 2. The ask price is going to be spot + $7 to10 premium.
Because of the Nomenclature, I always get confused between the Ask & Bid price. I always have to look up the definitions, when I'm looking at Spot lol.
one tip I can give as a former buyer and seller on ebay is if they are in china odds are it's fake. they make a lot of fake coins in china using little or no precious metals.
China only buys gold and silver the last few years, i think they even ban exporting any of the silver or gold resources they have. i highly doubt that anyone from China is able to ship such items.
I think it is not necessary to damage such nice coin. Silver is unique material. It is virtually impossible to counterfeit it keeping right weight, dimensions and price. In this particular case it would be enough to take weight and dimensions. And then compare to Royal Canadian Mint specifications, available on their web site for this particular product. Gold bullions is completely different story though.
@@yuriyvakulenko not true. yes, damaging it may be going too far, but i melt metals, and I have brought fake bars in to my jeweler with real bars to see if he could tell the difference without cutting it in half..
@@jerrykingsley6703 there is no other metal with nearly same density as silver. So counterfeit bullion will have different weight or dimensions. Of course it is applicable only for standard products like this RCM Maple Leaf bullion.
How important it is to explain the divergence of the spot and physical price! Folks new to the market are slow to grasp the importance. I’m with you, precious metals are set for a rise for sure👍
Hey sreetips! Didn’t know you served in the NAVY. Thank you for your service! We currently have two daughters serving now. One is on the Nimitz and the other is on the Truman. Great to your support!
Can using a water displacement test be useful? I remember doing something like it back in Chemistry class. Looking forward to your explanation! Thanks in advance!
It is called a specific gravity test. Yes, it is useful, but a bit cumbersome. Most fakes can be detected by simply measuring the dimensions and weight - then comparing those to a known genuine specimen. A large percentage of the fake coins can be detected by weight alone.
when I buy on line metals, I mention that I am not buying their metal to keep, and that I am buying it to plate some parts in a higher standard, so, if you have questionable filled metals , that it would not be in their interest to send me that, but do welcome pure metals that may have dinks/dings/scratches, as that is okay, and I have always been handled great, and many are glad to have an avenue to get rid of their "blemished" metals to me, ans some even discount for the blemished or throw in a wee bit extra, for allowing the blemished sale...
Can this be ping texted? I love info, very valuable and I’m about to do my first refining in a couple weeks. I cringed on the destructive test. What are some other recommended ways to check? I would think a counterfeit that was not overly greedy could drill out a core and fill with tungsten. Take off 3-5 oz and still have it test good.
Really like that tip on branding thanks I have some shady people that stole from me and I know they sell what they stole from me on eBay and other sites my channel is new and is what it is I try to brand some of my clips but writing the name like that is easy and probably works well I wonder if people could edit photo shop or something the name out though I guess all ya can do is try with those type of people thanks and great videos as usual
Can you tell us what seller on ebay you use to buy your nitric acid from.....and what the difference in use between urea and sodium bimetasulfite? Also a little more info on the safety side of refining.....ergo what's kind of gloves to use...eyewear...and so on...thanks...
Interesting this Was brought back up by Google/CZcams as the Silver price is currently going thru the roof, have to be more careful now the scammers will be out and about. Thanks Sreetips loving your work Sir.
How might I know the difference between plated gold and gold painted? Does it matter what karat of gold there is for precious metal recovery? Where should I go to buy silver and other precious metals?
I have a question about "pure silver" coins made and sold by "we buy gold" shops... I saw a huge liberty silver coin collection at a shop and all of them had a rainbow patina across a section of front of the coin, looked like burnt spot. I have seen this on steel before, but never a precious metal. I even tried duplicating this by melting my own pure silver and pouring under intense heats, but never had anything but shiny clear silver produced. What could cause that?
@@sreetips 90% silver is probably the case, the buyers did not know how to read mint marks very well...everything was junk to them. But I had no issues making 995+ silver bars from it that sold to reputable dealer later...no burnt spots hahaha.
A specific gravity test along with the paramagnetic test is definitive. You cannot have any fake silver pass both those test. It's non destructive. I wouldn't guouge my coins like that.
I gouge all my coins like that. I've got a whole roll of Morgan Silver dollars that I bought at a yardsale. Each one has the edge "gouged" so I could apply some schwerters to make sure that they were real. For me it's the only way to be sure. The acid don't lie.
Mokume - is a Japanese metalworking procedure which produces a mixed-metal laminate with distinctive layered patterns, as well as that laminate itself. Had to look it up.
@@sreetips i'm sorry that was to be Specific Gravity Test. here is one video that explains it very well: czcams.com/video/XoKBqFbGeyU/video.html or use a search in youtube for "silver density test"
If you're going to buy a coin, look up the original mint that made it. That will tell you easily if it's solid or clad. If you're going to file down an edge like that you might as well just melt it down because you're destroying the whatever value it has as a collectible or commemorative.
Colloidal silver consists of tiny silver particles in a liquid that is sometimes promoted on the Internet as a dietary supplement. However, evidence supporting health-related claims is lacking. In fact, colloidal silver can be dangerous to your health.
The first test without damaging the silver (gold) coin / bar is just done by using a strong neodyme magnet. pure silver (gold) is not magnetic at all, but silver (gold) is diamagnetic, which means: by moving the magnet near to pure 9999 silver (gold) you can observe the silver weakly reacting by very tiny movements. try it. it's fascinating. (magnet movements are obligatory for this diamagnetic test!)
Sreetips in your opinion how reliable would a density test be? 10 troy ounces of Silver = 311.035 g density of Silver = 10.49 g/mL V= 311.035/10.49 ~29.65 mL should be displaced
I've been burned more than once! READ Very carefully and AVOID "German Silver", that is NOT Silver but they will sell it at Spot, when it is actually worth about 1/10th of Spot!!!
@@sreetips Thank you for pointing that out! It is too easy for people to see the word "Silver" and pay Spot+ for it! I wish more CZcamsrs that specialize in Silver and especially, Silver bullion, which is what it is usually sold as, did videos about it, Fewer people would get Ripped off. Sadly, unless you buy something, like on Ebay, you can't leave a remark on someone's listing. I know I've Tried many times, hoping that changes, so that I could WARN People!!!
Would you show us refining integrated circuits? I'd like to know how to grind them into powder, extract copper, tin, silver, and gold. The rest is landfill because no more metals in the powder.
Hello, I’ve worked with some escrap. Trimmed circuit card fingers and pentium pro CPUs. These are among the highest yielding of all computer scrap. That’s why I chose them. I’ve never tried IC material. It’s messy, low yielding and produces lots of waste that must be treated before disposal. For these reasons, I don’t refine much escrap anymore.
Tons of fakes out there. I generally stick to junk lots that have other things of value with coins and/or jewelry mixed in. Then I immediately do the magnet and acid test.
Hey where do you get your Beakers and Nitric from I want to make a silver cell I have a lot for me of junk silver and a couple pounds of .925 that I want to refine and do my own experiments in my garage. I do my own pours and want to refine my own supply.
Ben Smallwood : try contact lab supplies, hard wears store. Some places don’t allow glass ware for general population due to idiots making drugs in their home.
Filing a genuine coin like that is considered a criminal offence in many countries. In the UK it was known as coin clipping or defacing currency and was a capital offence for several centuries (just a maximum of life imprisonment now). Other methods included shaking coins in a leather bag to obtain flakes of gold which could be recovered and the artificially worn coins passed on. One of the reasons bullion coins have very accurate official weight measurements available and very tight manufacturing tolerances. The milling at the edge of such coins was introduced specifically to detect tampering. The fine surface finish also makes the Canadian Maple a sought after collectors piece. So you have destroyed the coin as a collectors piece, reduced its' value to whatever the spot Silver price happens to be on the day and commited what is considered a capital offence in some jurisdictions, all nicely documented in a video. At least you won't have to worry about travelling anywhere soon with Covid19.
@@robin56rf78 he is right, whether common or not it is actual money and considered currency as it has a face value, therefore a criminal offence in destroying of state-owned currency
One look tells me that coin is beautiful, I feel your pain tho , it is easier to sell 10 one oz than it is 1 ten oz . Ten oz bars or coins are what some stackers call the sweet spot !
Liberty coin is solid. Tons of great, reputable dealers on eBay. I don’t use eBay anymore because of the tax that’s been added to all bullion sales. Best is to buy from private sellers. Subbed
I'm not a rich man by any means. But I would love to have just one good looking crystal. Doesn't have to be a big one. Just to keep on my shelf to look at.
such crystal with a hole would be a great idea to put it on a key chain... Dan Hurd has such video where he visits a company that uses raw gold nuggets to make jewelry, they are awesome...
Hi Streetips, I know this is just an investment coin but it hurts to see you file it like that.. Wouldn't there be a different way, like weighing and measuring the dimensions of the coin? Did your friend's fake 10Oz coin actually weigh that? Then I assume it must have had like a lead core inside the brass to achieve the right weight and dimensions, which seems pretty difficult to fake (of course it's possible). I totally understand you doing it this way, I'm just wondering if there's alternatives.
I bought some silver dollars at a yard sale. First thing I did was file and test with acid. It's the only way I know to be sure you're not getting ripped.
A specific gravity test is a non- destructive way to test silver as well. I cringed when you filed that super maple 😂🤣😂😂It’s all good brother. But now you gotta dissolve it in nitric. Lol
Yeah a non destructive test would have been better. It can even be done to check gold to find out what karat it is. www.hauserandmiller.com/reference/melting.html
Where do you get your physical prices? I can find spot all over the place, but no mention of live physical prices. Is there a calculation we can do using spot to find the physical price? Many thanx Sreetips!
No, there is no physical silver quote to be found. To find what it is just pick up the phone and call a precious metals dealer and call them. Ask them how much for and ounce of silver. Try Modern Coin Mart in Florida. I've delt with them and they treated me fairly. If you can find any silver for sale then the price they give is the physical silver price. You take delivery of the physical metals. Soon it will be shooting up. A dollar a day as they lose control of the markets because demand will exceed supply here in the near future.
Good way to help silver fans protect them selves, I saw so many different types of fakes on Alibaba, even APMEX assay bars in yep. With APMEX stamped on the coin/bar ,999. 1 Troy oz gold "plated bar" identical to the real deal.. What kind of people do that, "crooked people". Thanks for the insight.
Keep in mind that as gifted as Sreetips is as a refiner, he is not a metals market analyst, nor commodities broker. $100 an oz is nearly double what the all-time peak was and that was a kneejerk abboration in the market based on the unanticipated downgrading of the US credit rating. Don't invest in metals based on lay opinions, and don't get suckered into paying well over spot based on hype. This is a prime time for speculators (I am not saying at all that Sreetips is one!) to manipulate people and create runs, and a lot of hype gets spun in these markets. Just be careful out there folks.
You are correct, nor have I ever professed to be. But you don't need anything more than common sense and mathematics to realize that these metals are going higher. Much higher. I'm in the right business, at exactly the right moment in time, with exactly the right instrument. What a ride!
Be careful when saving American dollars. Turns out they lost half their purchasing power and just a few short years... The $15 silver I purchased in 2018 Fortunately retained all of its purchasing power.
Besides the weight, you need to check the diameter and the thickness. The quickest non-destructive test is using a strong magnet to see if the piece is diamagnetic. If it isn't, its not silver. I don't know how well this test works on coin silver or sterling. If you do need to file it to use the dichromate, the notch can be narrow - so less damage is done to the specimen.
I buy silver from a jewelery supplier company. In casting grain form. I intend to melt it down to liquid form to pour into casting moulds like to make a 💍 or pendant.
@@sreetips Yes, your right. Today I get my Troy Ounce and Gram scale, so I'll be able to verify whether what I have is authentic. Thanks for the info. PS. I enjoy your videos.
Thr great rise in price i think is happening now and is a great time to sell.. The premium price is nesrly 15 over spot prize, so anyone who stacks its a very good time to sell as i do believe prices could drop after all this covid crap ends. Love your vids man 👌 thumbs up from Ireland ✌️
Awesome video as always but it was so hard to watch you file that coin it looked legit to me even though it was a 10 oz I've handled so many Eagles and Maple Leafs I can tell by the look and feel if they're legit but now there's so many better ways to test silver than a destructive test my local coin shop has an x-ray machine they will test anything for me even if I didn't get it with them because I have a good relationship with them precious metal verifier I believe it's called as much as you work with precious metal it would probably be a good investment for you. Good video
XRF - it only goes so deep. So a thick coating over copper or brass can fool it. I’ve researched the XRF. It was $1500 per week or $4500 per month to rent one. Plus a visit from local officials to ensure it’s going to be used properly. The device emits radiation.
@@sreetips I'll definitely have to check that video out and yeah for an xrf machine that's ridiculous I know u can get those Sigma verifiers for a couple hundred but they don't tell you what in it they just verify that it's real great videos buddy
I've bought from liberty before a 10th oz gold kookaburra. their label got ripped off and my package was lost. I finally got it on friday after months of it being lost
Great video brother,,, very informative as usual. Besides the amazing pieces I have managed to get my hands on from Sreetips over the past year (thank you very much) I get my silver bullion from Provident. They have been great to deal with and always have a variety of high quality, trusted, and good priced metals. Look around there besides Ebay and see what you can get. Also, for a quick, easy silver test without the chemicals, take a NEODYMIUM MAGNET and hold your coin/silver piece at an angle, and let the magnet slide down across,, It should slide slowly like there is a coating on it. Definitely should not Stick or just fall off. Silver is non magnetic, but neodymium is so strong it has this reaction. Hope this is all over soon enough and we ALL make a ton of $$ back in time. Stay safe..! Now, Go wash your hands,,! ;->
Silver is still really quite cheap... there was a silver (and gold) mania in the late 70s and early 80s and silver hit its all time highs... when you consider the inflation for the last 40 years the price of silver would have been several hundreds of dollars/oz in today's money... so ~27 dollars isn't that much now when the industry demand for silver is getting higher and higher. In 2018 silver price was just ridiculously low
eBay price is higher than what you would pay had you bought directly from the dealer. eBay charges up to 11% and those fees are passed to the buyer. You get the best deals going directly to the dealers website and wire them money, or send a check. For example, a single 100oz bar from Scottsdale mint its $1537 on their website, but their eBay price is over $2000. Plus if you want quantity you can get them for $1476 on their website, but no deal for quantity purchases on eBay.
This physically hurt me to watch you scratch that coin.
Same!!
It’s just silver. I dissolved it to make electrolyte for my silver cell
Without a thorough test you could be holding junk… it’s a tough one but worth it
Nice vid. I use weight and specific gravity for coins going in my collection. For some reason they lose value after i file them haha
@Van Provost yeah, i was joking about coins losing value after filing a "trench" in the side of them.
That coin he just destroyed has a lot of security features. DNA maple leaf etched into it and the rays on the face of the coin.
I’ll fix it very soon
But it is not that terrible because he can make the silver shot and sell it 60% higher than cost. Besides he tought as a good lesson, sometimes what looks legit is indeed legit
@@sreetips My brain still can't fully comprehend that you "fixed" that coin into electrolyte and *poured* *it* .
Into a metal bowl in which it will rematerialize into pure silver crystals along with the silver shot.
I did this to demonstrate, for those who want to try, that this type of silver coin is suitable to make electrolyte for the electrolytic silver cell.
When you're local jeweler calls you to check some silver's authenticity. That's when you know.
If it’s in question then They test it before you can get paid !🤦♂️
5"24 - Argent is French for silver (and also "coin" or "money") - from Latin "argentum", meaning "silver".
Hence "Ag"
Correct guys👌
Argent Pur is french for pure silver, at least according to google translate
Those Canada coins have a tremendous premium. Not so much when they first come out but when the bullion dealers are out of stock easily a much higher premium coin and very liquid. Canada has security features built into that coin. I do not recommend anyone shave or damage their coin. This will absolutely ensure you will never get a premium over spot from anu collector. A Sigma analytics precious metal machine is best when in doubt.
I like the acid test - it never lies. Plus I can fix the coin and get a nice premium price for the silver. One of the advantages of refining your own silver at home.
I’m from Montréal, Canada and « argent pur » simply means « pure silver ».
Always interesting to watch your videos! Good job Sreetips!
Ag is silver for a reason!
@@jonweinraub Argent Pur is french for PURE SILVER
Silver futures price has fallen so fast in the last 16 weeks that dealers who bought silver at $18 an ounce months ago are not going to sell it to the public at current spot price of say $12 + their normal premium of $1 to 2. The ask price is going to be spot + $7 to10 premium.
but as soon as the market goes up they increase their prices right fucking quick tho.
Because of the Nomenclature, I always get confused between the Ask & Bid price. I always have to look up the definitions, when I'm looking at Spot lol.
one tip I can give as a former buyer and seller on ebay is if they are in china odds are it's fake. they make a lot of fake coins in china using little or no precious metals.
They counterfeit everything there even eggs if you want to see something stupid and disturbing lookup counterfeit eggs
China only buys gold and silver the last few years, i think they even ban exporting any of the silver or gold resources they have. i highly doubt that anyone from China is able to ship such items.
I think it is not necessary to damage such nice coin. Silver is unique material. It is virtually impossible to counterfeit it keeping right weight, dimensions and price. In this particular case it would be enough to take weight and dimensions. And then compare to Royal Canadian Mint specifications, available on their web site for this particular product.
Gold bullions is completely different story though.
@@yuriyvakulenko not true. yes, damaging it may be going too far, but i melt metals, and I have brought fake bars in to my jeweler with real bars to see if he could tell the difference without cutting it in half..
@@jerrykingsley6703 there is no other metal with nearly same density as silver. So counterfeit bullion will have different weight or dimensions. Of course it is applicable only for standard products like this RCM Maple Leaf bullion.
How important it is to explain the divergence of the spot and physical price! Folks new to the market are slow to grasp the importance. I’m with you, precious metals are set for a rise for sure👍
Hey sreetips! Didn’t know you served in the NAVY. Thank you for your service! We currently have two daughters serving now. One is on the Nimitz and the other is on the Truman. Great to your support!
Good on both of them. The Navy was good to me. And I was good yo the Navy.
sreetips It make me love the channel even more! Again thank you!
Can using a water displacement test be useful? I remember doing something like it back in Chemistry class.
Looking forward to your explanation!
Thanks in advance!
It is called a specific gravity test. Yes, it is useful, but a bit cumbersome. Most fakes can be detected by simply measuring the dimensions and weight - then comparing those to a known genuine specimen. A large percentage of the fake coins can be detected by weight alone.
when I buy on line metals, I mention that I am not buying their metal to keep, and that I am buying it to plate some parts in a higher standard, so, if you have questionable filled metals , that it would not be in their interest to send me that, but do welcome pure metals that may have dinks/dings/scratches, as that is okay, and I have always been handled great, and many are glad to have an avenue to get rid of their "blemished" metals to me, ans some even discount for the blemished or throw in a wee bit extra, for allowing the blemished sale...
Did you take down your videos?
I like the 2021 Britannia 1 oz coins, they have a small hologram-like security spot.
Thank you for all the invaluable knowledge.
Thanks Sreetips, I've really learned a lot from your videos.
Love it SREETIPS thx for the heads up sir!
Boy are those futures contracts being exposed now!
Great job explaining this! I never thought anyone could fake Perth Mint coins
Can this be ping texted? I love info, very valuable and I’m about to do my first refining in a couple weeks.
I cringed on the destructive test. What are some other recommended ways to check?
I would think a counterfeit that was not overly greedy could drill out a core and fill with tungsten. Take off 3-5 oz and still have it test good.
Weight vs published dimensions should give accurate result.
If you're purchasing scrap from Ebay would it not make more sense to purchase it at near or below spot in order to cover overhead costs?
Sure, if it is actually of the purity advertised.
I always get ads on Instagram selling one-ounce Silver Eagles for nine bucks! Why aren't those ads removed?
The Pea Shooter on the desk is just a friendly warning that a thief will NOT get a free cup of coffee
You made my day
Really like that tip on branding thanks I have some shady people that stole from me and I know they sell what they stole from me on eBay and other sites my channel is new and is what it is I try to brand some of my clips but writing the name like that is easy and probably works well I wonder if people could edit photo shop or something the name out though I guess all ya can do is try with those type of people thanks and great videos as usual
Do you trust the specific gravity test instead of damaging the coinage with acid and file?
No, I’ve never tried it
one of the coolest channels on YT.
WooHoo on the new project my friend !Onward eh. I will email you tomorrow with an update. I will be a pumpkin right shortly, LOL !
Do you ever use the density and volumetric displacement as an aid to determine if its silver.
No, because I don't know how.
czcams.com/video/z3uc8dc5kcU/video.html
You can use a plastic strip for holding the coin in the water. With this method I could find out, that the base metal of my fake is made of zinc.
Thanks for the great advice
Can you tell us what seller on ebay you use to buy your nitric acid from.....and what the difference in use between urea and sodium bimetasulfite? Also a little more info on the safety side of refining.....ergo what's kind of gloves to use...eyewear...and so on...thanks...
Huge fan. Learning alot from your videos
Interesting this Was brought back up by Google/CZcams as the Silver price is currently going thru the roof, have to be more careful now the scammers will be out and about. Thanks Sreetips loving your work Sir.
Thank you. Information is golden!
Bought all my Ebay coins from Liberty so far. I'm quite happy with them.
Liberty is very good and fair. Ebay is mostly a safe place to buy.
I love your ideology man keep true to yourself and i wish you the best ❤️
Love your videos!
Thank you so much for the video. Sure appreciate everything you share.
I love Canadian coins. That was hard to watch the file on QE II. Ouch!! Those canucks really beautiful gold & silver pm’s.
In the end, in most cases, it’s just silver metal. No extra value for being in perfect condition.
@@sreetips Yes, but there are non-destructive tests you can perform first.
How might I know the difference between plated gold and gold painted? Does it matter what karat of gold there is for precious metal recovery? Where should I go to buy silver and other precious metals?
Love the videos. Very educational my kiddo is the one who told me about your videos
Love the piece in the holster in the back of the table.
There's your precious metals, silver, brass and copper!
I have a question about "pure silver" coins made and sold by "we buy gold" shops...
I saw a huge liberty silver coin collection at a shop and all of them had a rainbow patina across a section of front of the coin, looked like burnt spot.
I have seen this on steel before, but never a precious metal.
I even tried duplicating this by melting my own pure silver and pouring under intense heats, but never had anything but shiny clear silver produced.
What could cause that?
Not sure about this. I have seen it on 90% silver coins. Sterling silver will also “acquire” a patina over time due to reacting with the air.
@@sreetips 90% silver is probably the case, the buyers did not know how to read mint marks very well...everything was junk to them.
But I had no issues making 995+ silver bars from it that sold to reputable dealer later...no burnt spots hahaha.
Some sellers are sneaky. They like to put a picture of several items inwhich you only recieve 1. Or so called estate sales
Beautiful Omega Constellation!
My wife got it for $300 at a yard sale - she is awesome!
A specific gravity test along with the paramagnetic test is definitive. You cannot have any fake silver pass both those test. It's non destructive. I wouldn't guouge my coins like that.
I gouge all my coins like that. I've got a whole roll of Morgan Silver dollars that I bought at a yardsale. Each one has the edge "gouged" so I could apply some schwerters to make sure that they were real. For me it's the only way to be sure. The acid don't lie.
@@sreetips 🤦♂️rip beautiful coins whoever buys them will be the new owner of the Beaver scored coins
Why not melt the silver crystal down to bars to reduce space taken and reduce surface area exposed that tarnishes?? Is there a specific reason?
Power 2 Weight pure silver does not tarnish....
Power 2 Weight so sorry..
@Power 2 WeightAssuming everyone walks around with a weight scale.
@@Lobennett52 It certainly does.
sounds like something you could heat up, fold a few times and turn into a little piece of mokume...lmao
Mokume - is a Japanese metalworking procedure which produces a mixed-metal laminate with distinctive layered patterns, as well as that laminate itself. Had to look it up.
I would like to know if you have ever used the density test on that coin in the video?
I have not. I don’t know how
@@sreetips i'm sorry that was to be Specific Gravity Test.
here is one video that explains it very well:
czcams.com/video/XoKBqFbGeyU/video.html
or use a search in youtube for "silver density test"
Since I’m not concerned with the appearance, only the metal content, I prefer to use a file and Schwerters solution to test my silver.
If you're going to buy a coin, look up the original mint that made it. That will tell you easily if it's solid or clad. If you're going to file down an edge like that you might as well just melt it down because you're destroying the whatever value it has as a collectible or commemorative.
I bought from Liberty and FFcoins. Yeager has awesome hand poured bars too
Hi sreetips, what’s your opinion on colloidal silver? I am interested in trying to make some of my own as an experiment. Have you ever tried this?
Jordon Gualtieri no I don’t have any experience with it.
sreetips fair enough. Thanks for the reply, love your videos!!! From Sydney Australia
Colloidal silver consists of tiny silver particles in a liquid that is sometimes promoted on the Internet as a dietary supplement. However, evidence supporting health-related claims is lacking. In fact, colloidal silver can be dangerous to your health.
The first test without damaging the silver (gold) coin / bar is just done by using a strong neodyme magnet. pure silver (gold) is not magnetic at all,
but silver (gold) is diamagnetic, which means:
by moving the magnet near to pure 9999 silver (gold) you can observe the silver weakly reacting by very tiny movements. try it. it's fascinating. (magnet movements are obligatory for this diamagnetic test!)
Sreetips in your opinion how reliable would a density test be?
10 troy ounces of Silver = 311.035 g
density of Silver = 10.49 g/mL
V= 311.035/10.49 ~29.65 mL should be displaced
might work, still i wont rely on it
@@marcofico1 It will work, Archimedes figured it out in his bath thousands of years ago now.
Works just as good today as then.
For the first three minutes of this video I felt like I was getting put into time-out for not verifying eBay sellers and reading the listing.
I've been burned more than once! READ Very carefully and AVOID "German Silver", that is NOT Silver but they will sell it at Spot, when it is actually worth about 1/10th of Spot!!!
German silver, aka nickel silver, contains 60% copper, 20% nickel and 20% zinc - zero elemental silver.
@@sreetips Thank you for pointing that out! It is too easy for people to see the word "Silver" and pay Spot+ for it! I wish more CZcamsrs that specialize in Silver and especially, Silver bullion, which is what it is usually sold as, did videos about it, Fewer people would get Ripped off. Sadly, unless you buy something, like on Ebay, you can't leave a remark on someone's listing. I know I've Tried many times, hoping that changes, so that I could WARN People!!!
Would you show us refining integrated circuits? I'd like to know how to grind them into powder, extract copper, tin, silver, and gold. The rest is landfill because no more metals in the powder.
Hello, I’ve worked with some escrap. Trimmed circuit card fingers and pentium pro CPUs. These are among the highest yielding of all computer scrap. That’s why I chose them. I’ve never tried IC material. It’s messy, low yielding and produces lots of waste that must be treated before disposal. For these reasons, I don’t refine much escrap anymore.
Tons of fakes out there.
I generally stick to junk lots that have other things of value with coins and/or jewelry mixed in. Then I immediately do the magnet and acid test.
Thanks for informing us
Hey where do you get your Beakers and Nitric from I want to make a silver cell I have a lot for me of junk silver and a couple pounds of .925 that I want to refine and do my own experiments in my garage. I do my own pours and want to refine my own supply.
Ben Smallwood : try contact lab supplies, hard wears store. Some places don’t allow glass ware for general population due to idiots making drugs in their home.
@@logical_evidence I'm looking more specifically for brand names. My local stores don't sell Beakers or Nitric acids I've searched enough locally.
Fantastic
Thank you for your service!
Thank you!
argent is French for silver
AG=argent
Silver = argento in Italian, pretty close
@Sora Argentum in Latin
L’argent is French for “money” it also means Silver (Ag)
Argent was also a cool band in the '70s
Now file those 0.02oz off to get exactly 10oz :D
Why not use specific gravity instead of damaging the piece?
Because he's a dumb dumb lol
Filing a genuine coin like that is considered a criminal offence in many countries. In the UK it was known as coin clipping or defacing currency and was a capital offence for several centuries (just a maximum of life imprisonment now). Other methods included shaking coins in a leather bag to obtain flakes of gold which could be recovered and the artificially worn coins passed on. One of the reasons bullion coins have very accurate official weight measurements available and very tight manufacturing tolerances. The milling at the edge of such coins was introduced specifically to detect tampering. The fine surface finish also makes the Canadian Maple a sought after collectors piece. So you have destroyed the coin as a collectors piece, reduced its' value to whatever the spot Silver price happens to be on the day and commited what is considered a capital offence in some jurisdictions, all nicely documented in a video. At least you won't have to worry about travelling anywhere soon with Covid19.
It's an ultra common coin, they are billions of them out there so it's not a great loss !
@@robin56rf78 he is right, whether common or not it is actual money and considered currency as it has a face value, therefore a criminal offence in destroying of state-owned currency
You can test without destroying such a fine coin. If you don’t want to use a X-ray tester then you can do specific gravity.
Probably use weight and dimensions to verify then no filing would be needed. But I prefer schwerters. The acid never lies
One look tells me that coin is beautiful, I feel your pain tho , it is easier to sell 10 one oz than it is 1 ten oz . Ten oz bars or coins are what some stackers call the sweet spot !
Liberty coin is solid. Tons of great, reputable dealers on eBay. I don’t use eBay anymore because of the tax that’s been added to all bullion sales. Best is to buy from private sellers. Subbed
I've delt with them for years.
@@sreetips i don't find them
I don't find them , are they still here
@@nickandyou1470 Here? Long Beach, CA
here on ebay
Will having made a rub/cut mark on the coin present a problem in trying to sell it in the future?
No because if it's real you could just remelt it. For collectors purpose absolutely would reduce it if it was legitimate
Only if you want collector value for it.
depends. for pandas the premium will be gone if you do as little as remove it from the seal.
I'm not a rich man by any means. But I would love to have just one good looking crystal. Doesn't have to be a big one. Just to keep on my shelf to look at.
such crystal with a hole would be a great idea to put it on a key chain... Dan Hurd has such video where he visits a company that uses raw gold nuggets to make jewelry, they are awesome...
@@Hobypyrocom I was thinking the same thing. Maybe encase a single crystal in resin and make a necklace or a pair of earrings.
They're as fragile as they are beautiful. It's hard to keep one whole.
@@ut000bs thats why i would try encasing one in resin to preserve the structure hopefully.
Great content
How can I check prices that can help me make better deals on EBay?
Try kitco.com
What’s that liquid called and where can you get it?
Schwerters solution - 1gram potassium dichromate dissolved in 20ml 50/50 nitric
Hi Streetips, I know this is just an investment coin but it hurts to see you file it like that.. Wouldn't there be a different way, like weighing and measuring the dimensions of the coin? Did your friend's fake 10Oz coin actually weigh that? Then I assume it must have had like a lead core inside the brass to achieve the right weight and dimensions, which seems pretty difficult to fake (of course it's possible). I totally understand you doing it this way, I'm just wondering if there's alternatives.
I bought some silver dollars at a yard sale. First thing I did was file and test with acid. It's the only way I know to be sure you're not getting ripped.
He's smart, he guessing pretty close for almost a year ago, in hearing it will jump to $200 oz in the end of 2021
A specific gravity test is a non- destructive way to test silver as well. I cringed when you filed that super maple 😂🤣😂😂It’s all good brother. But now you gotta dissolve it in nitric. Lol
I tried doing the test but my scale wasn't accurate enough
Yeah a non destructive test would have been better. It can even be done to check gold to find out what karat it is.
www.hauserandmiller.com/reference/melting.html
Where do you get your physical prices? I can find spot all over the place, but no mention of live physical prices. Is there a calculation we can do using spot to find the physical price? Many thanx Sreetips!
No, there is no physical silver quote to be found. To find what it is just pick up the phone and call a precious metals dealer and call them. Ask them how much for and ounce of silver. Try Modern Coin Mart in Florida. I've delt with them and they treated me fairly. If you can find any silver for sale then the price they give is the physical silver price. You take delivery of the physical metals. Soon it will be shooting up. A dollar a day as they lose control of the markets because demand will exceed supply here in the near future.
@@sreetips Thank you Sreetips! You da man!
Good way to help silver fans protect them selves,
I saw so many different types of fakes on Alibaba, even APMEX assay bars in yep. With APMEX stamped on the coin/bar ,999. 1 Troy oz gold "plated bar" identical to the real deal..
What kind of people do that, "crooked people".
Thanks for the insight.
You can slide it down magnates and if it slides slow your good acid test or go to coin dealer and us there sigmaletic precious metals tester
That's now considered a used coin.😅
Keep in mind that as gifted as Sreetips is as a refiner, he is not a metals market analyst, nor commodities broker. $100 an oz is nearly double what the all-time peak was and that was a kneejerk abboration in the market based on the unanticipated downgrading of the US credit rating.
Don't invest in metals based on lay opinions, and don't get suckered into paying well over spot based on hype. This is a prime time for speculators (I am not saying at all that Sreetips is one!) to manipulate people and create runs, and a lot of hype gets spun in these markets. Just be careful out there folks.
You are correct, nor have I ever professed to be. But you don't need anything more than common sense and mathematics to realize that these metals are going higher. Much higher. I'm in the right business, at exactly the right moment in time, with exactly the right instrument. What a ride!
Is that a 1911 I see?
Thank you for the informative video. Please be careful when investing in precious metals.
Be careful when saving American dollars. Turns out they lost half their purchasing power and just a few short years... The $15 silver I purchased in 2018 Fortunately retained all of its purchasing power.
Argent pur means pure silver in french argent is silver. Super nice coin wish i had one....
Besides the weight, you need to check the diameter and the thickness.
The quickest non-destructive test is using a strong magnet to see if the piece is diamagnetic. If it isn't, its not silver. I don't know how well this test works on coin silver or sterling.
If you do need to file it to use the dichromate, the notch can be narrow - so less damage is done to the specimen.
The Canadian 1 oz .9999 silver coin is another great coin with security features. They also offer an ultra pure 1 oz .99999 gold coin.
They made a giant five nines gold coin in a CZcams video - fascinating
I buy silver from a jewelery supplier company. In casting grain form. I intend to melt it down to liquid form to pour into casting moulds like to make a 💍 or pendant.
hehehhee i could nearly see you smile just before you turned the coin ;)hahaha as far as i know Mapel coin do not have two leaf on only 1 ;)
Think it's a fake? We'll find out when I dissolve this coin in acid.
@@sreetips notis that ;) nice for the big one, but now when you have damage it, are you gona do silver crystals of it ;)
It's not a normal Maple that's why doofus now he's going to Beaver it up even more rip Maple coin the blind leading the damn blind
Sidearm? Proper.
Interesting video. I was led to believe that you could use some type of magnet device & or machine to determine the authenticity 🤔 ?!?
I prefer the acid test - it never lies
Does anyone know how many grams is a Golden Troy ounce of Gold buffalo including the gram weight of the black gasket coin capsule altogether?
You’ll have to remove it from the container to properly weigh and measure to verify authenticity.
@@sreetips Yes, your right. Today I get my Troy Ounce and Gram scale, so I'll be able to verify whether what I have is authentic. Thanks for the info. PS. I enjoy your videos.
You’ll need calipers to measure thickness and diameter. Oriellys auto parts sells them.
As somebody who does not refine, I died a little watching you ruin that beautiful 10oz coin, LOL
El Chupacabra it’s just a silver coin. It’s the only way to be sure. (edited once for content)
Thr great rise in price i think is happening now and is a great time to sell.. The premium price is nesrly 15 over spot prize, so anyone who stacks its a very good time to sell as i do believe prices could drop after all this covid crap ends.
Love your vids man 👌 thumbs up from Ireland ✌️
happy to take it off your hands for you...
I also was wondering why you had sreetips written everywhere. It makes sense now
why?
@@geeezer9 Losers who steal content to pawn it off as their own. They use it to build a false credibility and sell impure or fake metal.
Awesome video as always but it was so hard to watch you file that coin it looked legit to me even though it was a 10 oz I've handled so many Eagles and Maple Leafs I can tell by the look and feel if they're legit but now there's so many better ways to test silver than a destructive test my local coin shop has an x-ray machine they will test anything for me even if I didn't get it with them because I have a good relationship with them precious metal verifier I believe it's called as much as you work with precious metal it would probably be a good investment for you. Good video
XRF - it only goes so deep. So a thick coating over copper or brass can fool it. I’ve researched the XRF. It was $1500 per week or $4500 per month to rent one. Plus a visit from local officials to ensure it’s going to be used properly. The device emits radiation.
I fixed the coin n a later video. I dissolved it in nitric acid for electrolyte for my silver cell
@@sreetips I'll definitely have to check that video out and yeah for an xrf machine that's ridiculous I know u can get those Sigma verifiers for a couple hundred but they don't tell you what in it they just verify that it's real great videos buddy
I've bought from liberty before a 10th oz gold kookaburra. their label got ripped off and my package was lost. I finally got it on friday after months of it being lost
What a heart ache, but all's well that ends well.
Great video brother,,, very informative as usual. Besides the amazing pieces I have managed to get my hands on from Sreetips over the past year (thank you very much) I get my silver bullion from Provident. They have been great to deal with and always have a variety of high quality, trusted, and good priced metals. Look around there besides Ebay and see what you can get.
Also, for a quick, easy silver test without the chemicals, take a NEODYMIUM MAGNET and hold your coin/silver piece at an angle, and let the magnet slide down across,, It should slide slowly like there is a coating on it. Definitely should not Stick or just fall off. Silver is non magnetic, but neodymium is so strong it has this reaction. Hope this is all over soon enough and we ALL make a ton of $$ back in time. Stay safe..!
Now, Go wash your hands,,! ;->
Silver is still really quite cheap... there was a silver (and gold) mania in the late 70s and early 80s and silver hit its all time highs... when you consider the inflation for the last 40 years the price of silver would have been several hundreds of dollars/oz in today's money... so ~27 dollars isn't that much now when the industry demand for silver is getting higher and higher. In 2018 silver price was just ridiculously low
eBay price is higher than what you would pay had you bought directly from the dealer. eBay charges up to 11% and those fees are passed to the buyer. You get the best deals going directly to the dealers website and wire them money, or send a check. For example, a single 100oz bar from Scottsdale mint its $1537 on their website, but their eBay price is over $2000. Plus if you want quantity you can get them for $1476 on their website, but no deal for quantity purchases on eBay.
OMG I can't believe you just did that to the coin
I have the same coin and I love it.
does yours have file marks? lol. I wish the test was less damaging.