Bisonte C45 - Mixed Feelings! | World of Tanks
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Ah, yes. The fickle lover, Bisonte. This thing's gun handling can make you want to pull your hair out at times, but I like the tank. Especially in the one-sided games, the mobility and autoloader can generally make sure you get into the fight fast enough and can chase damage when need be.
Also, the 3d skin is awesome.
I play mine with turbo, stabs, and a rotation device most of the time to counter the horrible gun. It really feels like a "hevium" tank like that, and I like it.
Bisonte is for me one of the best premium heavies. Yes you are right, sometimes the gun is shit, but as you said even with grille 15 you have those kind of days
Yeah, ever since field mods were introduced the Bisonte's viability has skyrocketed. It's no Leopard 1 but it's the fastest and most versatile "heavium" at tier 8. like a balanced chieftain lmao
I understand what you mean. I see it similarly. If you are top tier, it works really well, not so well against higher tiers. But the armor, especially on the turret against HEAT, is really good. If you can use the gun depression also sometimes against APCR. But it doesn't feel constant. Is probably due to the rather modest gun handling.
this tank is pretty op in decent player, the turret is pretty much impenetrable from front. If the gun handling is not as now it would be so op. I remember during the rng removed event this year every single decent bisonte player pretty much score the most dmg almost every match in asia.
When you take a shot at an enemy at 200+ meteres that you flanked, use the gun depression properly and it hits. It's the best feeling in the world... Then you unload 2 more into its guts and it's over, That's euphoria. No other tank offers that in the game. Bisonte C45 is amazing.
It's a good hull down "balanced" by the low dpm and gun handling. If you have support the dpm is not really an issue but it runs dry very fast without.
The saving grace is that the shells load in one by one so you effectively have more time to reload the shell
I feel like DPM can be a bit overrated sometimes. Definitely important, but you still have tanks like 122TM, which is a great tank, despite having one of, if not the worst DPM on T8 (except for LTs)
Agree. I lately playd 122TM in tier X MM and i did over 4k dmg. That gun and hulldown armor is the best.
I find DPM one of the most uninteresting stats on tanks like these. Yes it'll decrease nce you dip further into the mag, but having the potential to take a second (or even third) consecutive shot in 6 seconds to do a potential of 1080 damage is a far more usefull and important ability if you ask me. Specially since its often also damage done early and it can screw with other players if you catch them when they show a vulnerability.
I absolutely love my bisonte, it's my favorite tank in the game :)
It’s a hard tank to do consistently well but for some reason I keep a decently high WR in it. I find it a relaxing tank to play that doesn’t care what map it’s on with a really fun playstyle. The negatives are the gun handling and DPM but offset by great armor and being the sexiest looking tier VIII heavy in game.
Bisonte is one of the best Prem tier 8 for credit farming. I run bond vent, bond vert stab and bounty aiming. Removes most of the gun handling issues and is one of my fav tanks in the game.
Try switching the improved aiming device for an improved rotation device so the reticle doesnt get that big while turning the hull and the bisonte will work wonders
And still use stabilizer?
@@Swellington_ vents, stabs and Rotation device --> Bisonte God tier (Im quite average and 3 marking it with this setup xD)
@@---so4fi I'll give it a try
I will also try it, altough im using Vents, Stabs and aiming - All bounty and it works quite well.
@@---so4fi rotation setup is better for brawling. for open maps, I run turbo + IA, in case i have to snipe and don't want to deal with 0.38 acc
i really do enjoy my bisonte. if you can find a good hulled down position. it is hard to dig it out of that position. gun handling, well there are times i am just cussing up a storm. but over all i enjoy it.
Bisonte is one of my favorite tanks. I have no idea why, but it is. It just works for me.
Bisonte is one of my favourite premium heavy tanks. I know it`s not the best like you say and I agree to that but what is good about it is after I invested most of the equipment for it`s gun it works just fine for me and with the help of new research buffs to further improve the gun I have made it work really nice. Another thing that I love about this tank is the turret, gun depression, mobility and of course the clip. It`s a ridge line warrior and if you are the last one standing and enemy is comming for you then you have a potential to clip someone for 1000 damage before they take you out just like you did in that 2nd game. Anyway well played and I am glad you enjoyed playing this tank as I always have fun with it and it`s a nice credit grinder as we saw.
It is my favorite t8 heavy premium. Good thing about those kind of tank is that you dont need rammer, so basically it is like you have 4 slots to configure. So best equipment for me that works like a charm is bounty hardening, bounty stabilizer and bounty aiming. I dont see the need for turbo as this tank has a solid speed overall.
Vents, Vert stab, Rotation device. I love my Bisonte always have fun in it
I'm not a great player, but when I started to play it as more of a heavium, and stopped trying to brawl with it, it started working a lot better for me. It's becoming one of my more played tanks. I also try to find a way to get to high ground every game with it.
I found Bisonte to be one of those tonks who require you to sit back and chill. No rush, you have plenty of free time while reloading. Or you can use the time for repairs and heals after roof pens from arta, works either way. (not so proud owner opinion)
that S1 :D end of the month and medications are ran out :D
I just love this tank, I'm achieving some of my best average exp average inside of it
I quite like it. Especially armor in hull down position . You can easily block tier IX and X shots.
your turret armor doesnt exist when t9 or t10 loads gold. Gun mantlet is autopen
703, skoda t56, bisonte, i love them from the bottom of heart...
my absolute favorite t8 premium heavy
I love this tank skill, it works so well for me!
7:49 funny how different people would react to this situation, quickybaby would be really mad about it
You said it yourself. The tank behaves when you are up close. That obviously doesn't fit your style as you like to snipe more.
The Bisonte works pretty well for me. Sure, the gun will troll you sometimes, but more often than not, of you fully aim your shots, I found that you will most definitely hit them.
The low DPM also holds this tank from bring absolutely amazing, but doesn't really hold it back from being able to defend itself, as there is always the threat that you might clip out your enemies; 1080 alpha clip potential is devastating.
Otherwise eerything about this tank feels very comfortable. Gun depression is nice, armor against most equal-tiers is nice and the speed is also in this kind of sweetspot, where the vehicle doesn't really feel slow, while not being too fast either
It's one of my favourite tanks in the game, the gun depression is very useful
When the crew 2.0 test server went on with the new skills this tank was madnass . Most skill only worked in specific condition leki be under 50km/h for extra 15% engine power . With all that that tank become broken . Its funny cuz for the already good tanks it didnt matter for the bad ones it was no help but the Bisonte went insane .
I think the reason why I love this tank is if you get a bad team you can clip out get 1500 dmg and walk away with some decent money
I love this tank! I did last mission on "R" with this tank. It was so easy 😁
I've been almost point blank range with this damned thing and miss, the gun does what it wants
That udes commited sudoku, just to deny you the ram kill.
i love my biso, hope they release that skin for it at some point, i missed out on it when i was on a break and i pains me to this day. As far as the tank goes, i prefer it over the Prog most likely its a personal thing, but she can be a cruel mistress. armor is reliable and thats the most important thing for me.
Bisonte atm one of my favourite prem tank in the game. Basicly this tank treating me 95% of the games so well, played only 27 games, but i like it. This tank where i can achive relatively often 3500-4000 dmg. And the grille 15 joke is not a joke. T9 was nice on grille but when i got my grille 15 i was so happy. After that like 100 games later basicly i just sold the tank. The gun never hit shit for me, i guess my grille part of the garage was filled with ghost shells.
I play it with improved aiming, stabilizers and vents and you can suddenly pull of snap shots once in while.
I love my bisonte with all my heart and usually do really well with it (for my standards). The gun works most of the time and i feel very confident when playing hull down against tier 8 and 9. Might sound weird but i prefer playing with bisonte instead of renegade just because of how easily i get farmed in the cupola :
Bisonte and Renegade are my two favorite Tier VIII heavies. The Bisonte can troll you, but its strengths overcome the occasional errant shot.
One of the best tanks for me, but I think bounty/bond equipment is required to make it consistent.
Run a turbo vents stabs build and a vents, IA, stabs build and that seems to work okay.
Turret is so good against t8-9 and the gold ammo punishes t10s
Super good tank for when the MM is bad
You are right skill, gun handling and dpm are the issues and it is also the case that sometimes is awesome and then it sucks...I much prefer the tech tree T8
I always say: If it's from the italian tech tree and it's not the rino then it's a good tank.
That S1 was having a bad session.
I LOVE Bisonte!
I think it’s okay. When it works well it’s quite good, when the gun misbehaves, you can sit in the corner and eat kaku
Imo the bs is the tier 9 got more dpm than the tier 10. Thx Skieeeell for the video!
You are right with Bisonte, sometimes the gun handling works like shit, but you can have also good games with it.
I like Bisonte, but you have to build in all modules which possibly push gun handling. Playing hull down and working with gun depression is my way to make it work
I like this tank. good mobility, good re-load, pretty accurate gun! in fact, the entire italian tech tree is fun. td's, maybe not so much
i have good times and bad times with this tank, but it is still one of my favourites to play.
100% agree with you Skill. I'm a f2p player so I don't run with all the extras. For me, bad games outweigh the good ones with this tank.
When I figured out the tank's limitations and got patient with the auto-loader, I did much better with this tank. I really like it, but I have to play slower than normal.
I ❤ this vehicle
Bisonte, cool tank!
btw, how to get that style?
Accuronte! :3
What do you recomand guys? Bisonte c45 or iron arnie?
Гарні бої, мені дуже сподобалося, дякую за чудовий настрій!
Только английский в чате пожалуйста
My favorite tank in the game.
Still trying for 3 on this. But one of my fav heavies
This tank is fun but your right the gun handling is hit or miss all pun intended. I generally wont run the tank unless im playing frontlines. In frontlines nothing can be done to you when you hold a ridge line. Improved hardening and you wont die if you play ridge lines right.
yes each day is a new day...one day all works well as it should, then the next nothing works ....Wot's says this is "as intended". no matter the tank/tier
It is an italian autoreloder, of course the dpm is sh..it, but it has nice burst potential. Same for the Rinoceronte. I like it anyways
Il love bisonte 😍
i drive this tank with vans, stabi and improved aiming system. That makes the gunhandling quite acceptable
Its a very beginner friendly, cause armour amd flexibility
I personaly enjoy Bisonte, dpm is bad, but gun is fine for me, with vent, bond stabilization and rotation mechanism, it's bad tank for frontline, but on random you have this ability to unload all when you have a chance to do so.
I’m struggling for every HP i took from enemies with bisonte , but I like it
I love my Bisonte
Imo the bourrasque is the best overall tank tier for tier
Awesome turret armor, good speed, decent pen, good ammo, fixable handling. If we agree that we don't want op premium tanks every tank needs something to pull it back (dpm) . This is a great tank.
Is the DPM still horrible of you use it as single shot?
You perfectly described that tank. Its a roller coaster of a ride. But i find that with the game in the current state. The dpm of some tanks is totally unacceptable, this tank and many others. o7 skill
It’s okay
You are not aiming your shoots ^^
My favorite tank :D
I had this, played quite a few battles with it then got dissapointed and sold it.
The problem is the "combination of the things": Not enough armor, horrible gun handling, horrible DPM if you even touch the 2nd shell and the bad pen with standards. And this tank combines another 2 big problems: if you have only HEAT you can almost never go for tracking + damage shots, but if you have both, it's not easy to switch between the ammunition because you take FOREVER to load it.
Bottom line is, why would i try to tackle all of these problems when there are far better tanks out there?
If only this tank would have worked even third of a day.
Bisonte, hull down tierVIII mm, nobody yoloing u, I love it, great turret, autoloader lets u clip out when u want. The next day the gun couldnt hit a cows arse even while milking the cow, lovely then infuriating, then lovely then infuriating etc, plus the standard pen is horrible so u shoot more gold then usual and so dont make that many credits. All hail King Baboon!
Skiieeell!!
please do HT Missions guide after next after finishing the LT ones :D :D
P.S: Semovente M/41 is still not yet up on Extra :< :
Funny how skill says the DPM is an issue but he loves the Prog54 which has worse DPM
i personally love it, but im also not close to bein an unicum in any form. i have no problem with the DPM, maybe it is because the skill ceiling of the tank is just right for me and too low for you? i have a 62% WR with it which is insane to me, since with tanks like Borat or UDES TD which you like a lot i can barely keep 50% WR.
i have tried both Skoda 56 and 703 v2 yet i keep coming back to bisonte only for one reason, the hull down of this tank is insane even up against t10s. I have had quite a lot of battles against t10s shooting all gold and cant pen a shit to a point they mess up and gets punished. However I do agree the gun handling of this tank is not great that is only if you intend to play it aggressively. 100% For sure this tank cant Snapshot but if you are patience and hull down, nothing can pen this tank and you can also punish too.
It's my favorite tank
Yes I liked it when I first got it but dpm killed it for me. Sold it
SKILL I remember when you said you would never play this tank again back when you was trying to mark it. It stressed you out. I think your saying this now to sell the tank.
Skill is so hilariously biased by himself :D
when I play italian tanks I feel like I spend half of the game aiming
The DPM isn't thaaaaaat bad, because most other tier 8 heavies also have fairly poor DPM. The gun handling is bad for sure, but all things considered, the tank as a package isn't bad as long as you try to play at close range as much as possible. It's fickle and can be frustrating, but when it works it WORKS.
Oufff... I want those crew skins :P
I have it love the gun if it had more pen hate the turet i get get heat spamed if im hull down
This tank is not bad. But I like the tech tree one more.
In my opinion u r right @Skill…..I have rounds with the Bisonte u hit and pen everything with ur AP shells and the gun is doing his job. If u take care of the reload times it can work. But holy cow….sometimes this vehicles hits and pens NOTHING even with the good HEAT shell….horrible
Can we have a video for: Best of Katitta?
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The poor strv
This tank, for me personally, is a bit worse than the Double Penetrator.
Although I dislike its gun handling so much that I put a Bond V.Stab + a Bounty R.Mech to make it feel acceptable.
There's a reason why it requires almost the same avg combined dmg to 3-mark the tank compared to Obj. 703 II.
I would say the Bisonte is a good tank overall. But you need to be extremely patient to make the most use out of it.
Bisonte for me can work in controlled scenarios. If you are caught and must carry... you wont usually. The dpm is so low if you shoot all your shots its laughable
But SKEEEEEEEELL. No video on what you think of holiday ops/lootbox rewards?
It is a powerful tank overall, but the inconsistency of the gun makes it frustrating.
Almost never. One in five hundred matchs.
I like my new mouse to much to play the Bisonte ;)
im poor as f so i cant say a thing about trashante
but the regular tier 8 is sssso good i love it
It has potential, but not my tank. When you miss any of your shot, you feel guilty, and u will always miss, lol