I agree with everything but having the frogs on the inside. Not only will it scratch the hell out of your rifle, but you certainly don't want that metal pressing into your hand or arm when tightened up in position. Yes, you may be wearing a shooting glove. You can still adjust it just the same with them on the outside so I'm really not seeing the reasoning behind it.
Thank you for the easy to follow along video. I could have never figured this out myself. I am mostly a visual learner. Now my Yugoslavian Mauser looks super sharp.
Thank You Sir, this video was more helpful than the other vids in tubeland. This attachment method felt much more comfortable and got me an extra 50 points in my last match🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I forgot to thank you for this content. I had put slings on 3 of my guns that are vintage WWII shooters. Mosin/Garand/Mauser...etc. and like them set up as they would have and were. Try to keep them as authenic as possible. Of course, each one has needed cleaning/ffull disassembly and inspecting, all before shooting. Each time I forget how to configure the sling and every time I have to come here to see. I do it and forget to tell you thanks, so THANKS. Very clean instructions and visuals. One of the best examples on CZcams on how to. Keep it up
This helped a lot. In boot several years ago, we were trained on A2's with web slings, but getting into service rifle comps I've been wanting to transition to the 1907 sling. This sling seems like it doesn't cut off circulation like the web sling does. I'll have to try it. Thanks again. Semper fi.
Thank you very much for the video. I couldn't have done this without your video. I watched three that left me Confused and wishing I had not bought the leather strap. But then I saw your video following followed along with you and attached my strap to my newly purchased Springfield Armory M1A standard . Took it to the range today put about 60 rounds threw it. It shot like it should dead nuts accurate. And every man there sit there and stared at this rifle. Anyhow thanks for your video you made the difference and long live the Republic!🇺🇸
Thanks for making this. All my Jim Owens books are faded & tattered, and we’re freshening up the hand-me-down Remington 514 (he’s the 4th generation to own this rifle) for my grandson, and he’ll have a kid-size M1907 on it just like his Opa has on my Garand and used on my issue Match M14, XM21 and M24 back in my shooter days. I have them on the rest of my serious rifles as well. I like to order extra keepers to snug the ends against the swivels. Keeps them from dangling around. I also use the TXARNG Team’s technique of twisting the tail to keep the adjustment immobile.
Thanks again. I bought a new Springfield Loaded a few months ago and was going to attach my old sling from my competition AR15, which I set up with help 20 years ago, to it. I did not remember any of the methodology and winged it. Now I can go pull it from the safe and see how I did. I will save this video for the next time. Regards.
Just watched this so I can install my original 1918 manufacture M1907 on my 1943 1903A3 Springfield. Of course I wasn't taught the marine method of rifle shooting but I was taught by my grandfather the US Army version though since he was a Corporal in the US Army during WWII.
Coast Guard used the M1 well into the 1980’s... when they welded the barrels to the receivers ... effectively ruining thousands of beautiful, fully serviceable weapons. Anyway... I took second place in the Ninth Coast Guard District rifle matches, using an off the rack rifle. The key to my success was the plain old web sling. I’ve got a few Turner Saddlery slings, but they are simply too complex for non-match use. If you know what you are doing, the cotton sling is as good as the 1907.
Thank you for this video I just bought a M1A Loaded and couldn't remember how to sling it, too many years have passed sense the 60's and Viet Nam and my M14 rifle for me to remember Great Video
It's been at least a decade or so since I've shot CMP matches with the 1907 sling. But if memory serves me right you used the old Marine Corps setup, but it's the new Marine Corps setup that's the preferred version. It's exactly the same as you did, but in reverse so the frog is facing you while in the prone position; the Marine Corps decided this was more advantageous because it's easier to adjust the frog while in the prone position when it's facing you instead of being on the outside.
I was recently been introduced to the sport of high power rifles. A new friend invited me to the range and I've been hooked ever since then!! I've been like a sponge that past six weeks or so trying to learn as much as possible. I think I've watched all of your videos on the subject. You are an excellent instructor and speak in a way that is easy to follow and understand. This particular video was great. You totally removed the mystery of the sling for me. I'm subscribed and look forward to more content. Keep up the great work!
Greg Richardson Thank you! I'm glad my video was helpful, and I'm even more glad you've taken up high power. I hope to meet you at the range sometime. Be sure to say "Hi" if you see me. Good luck, and take care.
Thanks a lot! I just got the Springfield 1903 I've been looking for for nearly all my life. I attached a sling like this one to it but the frogs kept getting unhooked. Looking at how you did it, it makes way more sense than how I did it myself. Also, it makes more sense to have the frogs facing the way you did when you want to hike with your rifle, that way they don't pop out! Thanks!
Right. You ever replaced a fan belt on a multi-pulley car, better draw a damn diagram before you start...you think you can remember because it looks easy, but 5 minutes later you are scratching your head when trying to install the new one....this 1907 sling mounting is nuts...I've watch several videos on it and they are all different...how to mount it...
Thank you, great delivery, been using 1907s for 50 years, six on my current rifles have them and I know I never attaching them as you demonstrate here, good times, now I get to see how many of those six rifles I got right and how many I will have to redo. Appreciate you.
Wow - this is a great video. Very clear and precise. It just so happens that I bought a new 1907 leather sling today and I need to attach it to my firearm. Easy peasy following your instruction. Thank you so much!!
Just got this sling. Been 25 years since I last owned one. Thanx for the excellent video on how to assemble it and to the rifle and how to form the loop!! Very clear instruction
Good shit, I just purchased an M1907 sling to go on my Marlin 1895, I've never used one on a lever gun but I think it will work well with some adjustment. Thanks for the video!
Another excellent video and big help. I also experienced the same frustration in trying to remember how to properly attach a sling to a new rifle. Thank you for the video.
Can't help but notice Springfield puts their best quality walnut stocks on their super match rifles - beautiful rifle. Have a walnut standard M1A 308 & NM 6.5 Creedmoor M1A with black synthetic stock , both with leather slings - going to check & see if I did it right . Enjoyed your video .
I see many saying that Hrfunks version of J. Owens book sling configuration is "wrong" Yet no one can point out the differences good or bad. I have used both methods being what I was told is the "competition" configuration and then the "army" configuration as seen here per CMP web site old.thecmp.org/training-tech/armorers-corner/1907-sling-installation/ I find Hrfunks demonstration to be the best way for me shooting cmp/nra high power The "military" way I find the keepers will walk loose. if anyone is using the 1907 sling and the hooks are rubbing the back of your hand or arm, your just doing it wrong
Thanks Mac. Interestingly, Jim Owens said people used to tell him he was doing to wrong too. In response, he told them it was not wrong, it was just different. All I can really say is his method works well for me.
hrfunk All that matters is that it works for you/me/them what ever “that” is. Same with those on the line who tell me my cast loads wont work in my M1/M1a/AR/ SKS Its all fun and its best to get to the line and shoot.
Thank you, Mr hrfunk. I got my Turner Saddlery sling today and finally came across your video. Your instruction is very detailed and much easier to follow. I now have mine set up and want to use it tomorrow on my M1A (standard) with some match rounds I loaded up. I have zero training with the competitive sling. Liked and Subscribed to your channel, sir.
How the heck does CZcams know I bought a M1907 sling for my 1903A3 last week? Most helpful video...I was close, but installed it upside down with the short strap up top. ;)
Ok, HR - You got me started with CMP high power matches. I am going from rimefire 3P to CMP high power, and am setting up my AR with a M1907 sling, and a Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 1.5-4x 20mm 1/10 Mil Adjustments AR Ballistic Reticle. Thank you and very useful. Also, thx for the great intro videos on high power rifles. FletchMan
FletchMan...get you a laser range finder, a red dot, gillies suite, British WWII face veil, and some camoflouge, and you are set for life...Good luck shooting...
Definitely the clearest explanation I have seen yet. I would like some clarification though on proper tensioning (Length) as a shooting sling. I am having some trouble getting it adjusted correctly. BTW, I am using the sling on a Savage Mark II for rimfire sporter cometition. Thanks! Steve
The rule is to get the sling as tight as possible without having it effect your shooting platform. If the sling is too tight for you to get into a good position, you need to loosen it a bit. If it's so loose, that it provides little or no support then it needs to be tightened. There is a little trial and error involved in getting the sling just right, and it needs to work in conjunction with your shooting position. No matter how you tension the sling, it will not correct for a bad position. So, again, everything has to work in harmony with everything else! Hope this helps!
hrfunk : thanks! I did just that this morning between thundershowers. I'll email you 2 pics. one is before adjustments. the second is after. 20 rounds, 15 - bulleyes with 5 or 6 x @50 yards with my 22lr. I guess it works! thanks for the excellent advice. steve
Sorry, I thought I could upload a pic but can't find a way to do it. Been shooting less than 2 years but given my proximity to Camp Perry (40-miles to the east), I can't resist the urge to participate in the National Matches.
Steve Brown no problem. Shoot me an email at hrfunk@zoominternet.net. I'd like to see how you did! Also, there is nothing in the shooting sports that is quite as cool as shooting at the National Matches. I liken it to going to the Super Bowl, being able to go down on the field and play.
Your content is unique and super helpful. I'm trying to set up a proper sling config. on a Garand and your video shows the details that most other videos lack. Thanks again!
There are several other ways to attach the sling. For what it’s worth, the sling configured as demonstrated in the video can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
@hrfunk lots of keyboard warriors complaining about it being the "wrong way" here's some easy advice. There's a lot of things soldiers do that is different or not exactly the way the book says. Years of trial and error as well as finding what works best for you is where the stuff that works comes from. He even stated that this is a different way to do it. Hes not humping this thing 12 miles through the woods. Nor is getting ambushed a close range or assaulting a village. Hes using this set up for competition shooting. If he was carrying this every single day he might find a better method but for his purposes this is what works. No need to lose your minds on the guy.
New sling from CW Shields Cumberland Ohio showed up to day and I got her done thanks to your video. Can't wait to give it a spin this weekend, thanks again HRfunk
Dogs not Frogs...Maybe in South Louisiana they call them Frogs...I don't know...but I do know in south Texas a Bush Hog is called a Rotary sickle...me and my brother never heard of a Rotary sickle when in south Texas in 1972...we laughed our asses off when when saw the damn thing that the man was talking about...it was a friggin Bush Hog where we came from...!
Thank You I always have a problem with the 1907 sling I now have one on each of my Bolt Action Rifles and also on my AR-15 5.56 mm CMP Rifle and my 24" barreled AR-15 5.56 mm Over Watch Rifle .
I setup my sling the same way, but was taught to have one of the keepers above the upper strap, so there’s a bit of a gap between them as the top one comes down onto the extra length of strap that sticks out. Hard to describe. It serves to keep the upper frog in place. Bottom line the keepers don’t touch each other. But I’ll try it this way as well. Appreciate the clear direction.
Thank you for making this video. Just brought a 1903 back from a sporter. I have it installed now I will return for how to use it. Looks rock solid the way you are using it.
6 years later and this video is still helping folks. I agree with another poster about having the frogs on the outside, but that's an easy change. Thank you, Sir!
Not sure if you did one of these for the canvas sling. I have those on a few of my firearms and to this day I am not certain that I installed them properly. I note that I use the USN style of “quick” support for firing these rifles. Many thanks if you can do this type of video. Thank you.
pro tip pull the tail stock frogs through and make a loop and hook them. then pull the hooks and loop up, attach the frogs to itself and then pull them against the the tail stock swivel. This will give a mechanical pinch point so the short sling stays attached to the rifle. The way you have it in the video you can have the frogs come undone and pull through and you can fine yourself laying on the hooks in prone. Ouch! You will know what I mean if you ever had that happen to you.
@@Mac-mu9cs i was explained the “frogs” always go to outside , so as to prevent abrasions against rifle and or the soldiers shoulder potentially while carrying rifle , this could also result in frogs hanging up on other gear and thus being dislodged ..
@@oneshotpete6.591 I doubt US miltary cared much about rifle abrasion or GIs shoulder. Anyhow every thing I see how USGI ran the sling looked like this
@@Mac-mu9cs you may want to check the CMP - they state the frogs were set up on the outside - kinda makes sense, seeing as that would give the fastest adjustment access 🤷🏽♂️
When it comes to using a sling as a shooting aid, the “right” way is the way that allows you to fire the most accurate shots. The method I demonstrated is the one I use on all my service rifles in competition.
I always thought the leather ones were better but I'm leaning more towards the cotton one. Seems like you have to replace it every year the more you use it though.
@@hrfunk yeah true. I always have to buy a new one. The seat belt kind really sucks as they slip but the cotton ones are solid for about a year or two then you got to buy a new one. I buy the two packs and it takes me about 3 years before having to buy a new set. I guess by now I can have a single leather one and maybe it’ll last longer for the same price.
it's not called 1907 military sling.. The Military doesn't go around naming it's equipment as "military", the M stands for model Model 1 Garand Model 1903 Springfield Model 1911 Colt .45 pistol So this sling is called "Model 1907 leather sling"
Good stuff, sling looks like it is attached ok! However, should the "Metal" fittings on the sling be facing away from the stock to prevent scratching and/or damage? Just another way I attach the M1907 slings to my rifles. Regards, RJW
It's attached properly for the way I use it. The metal fittings (frogs) rarely contact the stock, and the few marks they make when they do just add character to the wood. Contrary to popular belief, rifles used for service rifle matches lead a pretty grueling life, and they usually show some scars to prove it.
Yeah prety sure it is backwards. Its 100% right just hardware goes out been shooting NRA high power and CMP matches for years and I've yet to see anyone else set up that way, use this type sling on my 03A3, M1, M1A, and my M16A2clone, there are none better.
Thanks for making this video. I just bought a Marlin 336 and I plan on putting a 1907 sling on it because I think leather on a lever action rifle looks good and I figure I would use a 1907 sling.
Fantastic,now I'm on to steady my rifle I think my sling is different than this one mine came from Springfield arm's I don't have the metal D - ring on my short strap like yours but, I can buy another a1907 sling
I don't understand why both keepers are below the frog. I always had one above and one below. Also, I see no reason to put the lower frog on the inside. It's easier to get to on the outside.
I had a difficult time trying to get the hook side through the loop on the stock. It catches in the brass. I'm guessing that I could try and file the brass down a but to make enough room to pull it through?
Well , since your the only one who knows what he is doing , I will ask you. I have seen 3 ways to install a 1907 style sling on the M1 rifle and the M1A , own both I dont know which is correct and I am quite puzzled by the whole thing , not going to carry it cross country , just in target shooting, not fond of the canvas slings I have now , so I bought a reproduction M1907 to install on the M1 rifle , looking at photos , I see frogs in , out , and backwards , loop retainers every where on the sling set ups. If this is the Marine set up , then I will go with it , just need to know, thanks
This IS the Marine set up. The thing is, different shooters prefer different sling configurations. That’s why you see so many different ways of going about it. Thanks for watching!
@@hrfunk I didnt want catch the crap I caught like last time with my little supply wagon , welding coat and glove and sling in its present position from the "GREAT OZ" at the next rifle match is all , thank you for the info.
I'm a fan of your videos very informative but it seems like every video I've watched shows it done a different way.. may I ask what book you were referencing?
Go on a 25 mile hike with your rifle on your shoulder with the frogs on the inside. Afterwards let us know which side they should be facing.
5 miles enough to figure ;)
I'm taking my M1 hunting next month, so, we'll see how I do with my 1907 sling.
That sounds like fun. Be sure to let me know how it goes.
Don't be a jerk.
I agree with everything but having the frogs on the inside. Not only will it scratch the hell out of your rifle, but you certainly don't want that metal pressing into your hand or arm when tightened up in position. Yes, you may be wearing a shooting glove. You can still adjust it just the same with them on the outside so I'm really not seeing the reasoning behind it.
Bloke chill
The "frogs" face outward not inward to the stock. You are correct.
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Thank you for the easy to follow along video. I could have never figured this out myself. I am mostly a visual learner. Now my Yugoslavian Mauser looks super sharp.
You’re welcome. I’m glad it helped!
Thank You Sir, this video was more helpful than the other vids in tubeland. This attachment method felt much more comfortable and got me an extra 50 points in my last match🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Good shooting Dana! I’m glad the video helped!
I forgot to thank you for this content. I had put slings on 3 of my guns that are vintage WWII shooters. Mosin/Garand/Mauser...etc. and like them set up as they would have and were. Try to keep them as authenic as possible. Of course, each one has needed cleaning/ffull disassembly and inspecting, all before shooting. Each time I forget how to configure the sling and every time I have to come here to see. I do it and forget to tell you thanks, so THANKS.
Very clean instructions and visuals. One of the best examples on CZcams on how to.
Keep it up
Thanks Al! I’m glad it’s helpful!
This helped a lot. In boot several years ago, we were trained on A2's with web slings, but getting into service rifle comps I've been wanting to transition to the 1907 sling. This sling seems like it doesn't cut off circulation like the web sling does. I'll have to try it. Thanks again. Semper fi.
Mark Bryant Semper Fi! Glad to help.
That's the way I set up my 1907. The way you show works best for highpower competition. I use a cotton web sling on my AR and a leather on my M1A.
Thank you very much for the video. I couldn't have done this without your video. I watched three that left me Confused and wishing I had not bought the leather strap. But then I saw your video following followed along with you and attached my strap to my newly purchased Springfield Armory M1A standard . Took it to the range today put about 60 rounds threw it. It shot like it should dead nuts accurate. And every man there sit there and stared at this rifle. Anyhow thanks for your video you made the difference and long live the Republic!🇺🇸
You’re welcome. Enjoy that M1A!
Thanks for making this. All my Jim Owens books are faded & tattered, and we’re freshening up the hand-me-down Remington 514 (he’s the 4th generation to own this rifle) for my grandson, and he’ll have a kid-size M1907 on it just like his Opa has on my Garand and used on my issue Match M14, XM21 and M24 back in my shooter days. I have them on the rest of my serious rifles as well.
I like to order extra keepers to snug the ends against the swivels. Keeps them from dangling around. I also use the TXARNG Team’s technique of twisting the tail to keep the adjustment immobile.
It sounds like your grandson is going to be well prepared. I hope he enjoys shooting that rifle!
Thanks again. I bought a new Springfield Loaded a few months ago and was going to attach my old sling from my competition AR15, which I set up with help 20 years ago, to it. I did not remember any of the methodology and winged it. Now I can go pull it from the safe and see how I did. I will save this video for the next time.
Regards.
Just watched this so I can install my original 1918 manufacture M1907 on my 1943 1903A3 Springfield. Of course I wasn't taught the marine method of rifle shooting but I was taught by my grandfather the US Army version though since he was a Corporal in the US Army during WWII.
You should be able to install that sling with no trouble at all.
Coast Guard used the M1 well into the 1980’s... when they welded the barrels to the receivers ... effectively ruining thousands of beautiful, fully serviceable weapons. Anyway... I took second place in the Ninth Coast Guard District rifle matches, using an off the rack rifle. The key to my success was the plain old web sling. I’ve got a few Turner Saddlery slings, but they are simply too complex for non-match use. If you know what you are doing, the cotton sling is as good as the 1907.
Thank you for this video I just bought a M1A Loaded and couldn't remember how to sling it, too many years have passed sense the 60's and Viet Nam and my M14 rifle for me to remember Great Video
You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful!
It's been at least a decade or so since I've shot CMP matches with the 1907 sling. But if memory serves me right you used the old Marine Corps setup, but it's the new Marine Corps setup that's the preferred version. It's exactly the same as you did, but in reverse so the frog is facing you while in the prone position; the Marine Corps decided this was more advantageous because it's easier to adjust the frog while in the prone position when it's facing you instead of being on the outside.
If the metal is digging into you while in position your not using the sling correctly. in either configuration
Thanks so much for showing how to install this sling and how to use it. I really appreciate this video
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful!
Very good demonstration putting it on. Thank you for posting.
I was recently been introduced to the sport of high power rifles. A new friend invited me to the range and I've been hooked ever since then!! I've been like a sponge that past six weeks or so trying to learn as much as possible. I think I've watched all of your videos on the subject. You are an excellent instructor and speak in a way that is easy to follow and understand. This particular video was great. You totally removed the mystery of the sling for me. I'm subscribed and look forward to more content. Keep up the great work!
Greg Richardson Thank you! I'm glad my video was helpful, and I'm even more glad you've taken up high power. I hope to meet you at the range sometime. Be sure to say "Hi" if you see me. Good luck, and take care.
What's High Power? I dono but bet it's gonna be outlawed soon....just kidding...it's the big rifles that knock the shit out of you...! lol
Thanks a lot! I just got the Springfield 1903 I've been looking for for nearly all my life. I attached a sling like this one to it but the frogs kept getting unhooked. Looking at how you did it, it makes way more sense than how I did it myself. Also, it makes more sense to have the frogs facing the way you did when you want to hike with your rifle, that way they don't pop out! Thanks!
You’re welcome. I’m glad it worked for you!
After watching several methods of installation, I drew a diagram to remind me of how I like to have it installed.
Right. You ever replaced a fan belt on a multi-pulley car, better draw a damn diagram before you start...you think you can remember because it looks easy, but 5 minutes later you are scratching your head when trying to install the new one....this 1907 sling mounting is nuts...I've watch several videos on it and they are all different...how to mount it...
Thank you, great delivery, been using 1907s for 50 years, six on my current rifles have them and I know I never attaching them as you demonstrate here, good times, now I get to see how many of those six rifles I got right and how many I will have to redo. Appreciate you.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
Wow - this is a great video. Very clear and precise. It just so happens that I bought a new 1907 leather sling today and I need to attach it to my firearm. Easy peasy following your instruction. Thank you so much!!
You are very welcome. I don’t think I’ve done one for the canvas sling. I’ll see if I can get one up.
Just got this sling. Been 25 years since I last owned one. Thanx for the excellent video on how to assemble it and to the rifle and how to form the loop!! Very clear instruction
Gates Larry You’re welcome!
That was a great refresher. I think we could all do with a refresher from time to time.
Thanks
You're welcome! Like I said in the video, I'm looking forward to being able to watch it the next time I need to attache a sling!
What a major production. I will gladly stay with a one piece. Just attached a leather one to my 1946 British Army Lee Enfield.
Good shit, I just purchased an M1907 sling to go on my Marlin 1895, I've never used one on a lever gun but I think it will work well with some adjustment. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome! I've never used one on a lever gun either, but it should work just fine. Let me know!
Very good job my friend !!! THANK YOU for passing on your knowledge, and it was presented in a friendly and confident manner............. GREAT JOB
You are most welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your video! Well done. I think I'll switch out my M1A's strap from the web sling to the 1907.
Great explanation -- very detailed and much appreciated.
I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching Tom!
Another excellent video and big help. I also experienced the same frustration in trying to remember how to properly attach a sling to a new rifle. Thank you for the video.
You're welcome! I just recently refered back to it when I installed another sling on one of my rifles.
Can't help but notice Springfield puts their best quality walnut stocks on their super match rifles - beautiful rifle. Have a walnut standard M1A 308 & NM 6.5 Creedmoor M1A with black synthetic stock , both with leather slings - going to check & see if I did it right . Enjoyed your video .
I see many saying that Hrfunks version of J. Owens book sling configuration is "wrong" Yet no one can point out the differences good or bad. I have used both methods being what I was told is the "competition" configuration and then the "army" configuration as seen here per CMP web site
old.thecmp.org/training-tech/armorers-corner/1907-sling-installation/
I find Hrfunks demonstration to be the best way for me shooting cmp/nra high power
The "military" way I find the keepers will walk loose. if anyone is using the 1907 sling and the hooks are rubbing the back of your hand or arm, your just doing it wrong
Thanks Mac. Interestingly, Jim Owens said people used to tell him he was doing to wrong too. In response, he told them it was not wrong, it was just different. All I can really say is his method works well for me.
hrfunk
All that matters is that it works for you/me/them what ever “that” is. Same with those on the line who tell me my cast loads wont work in my M1/M1a/AR/ SKS
Its all fun and its best to get to the line and shoot.
Agreed!
Thank you, Mr hrfunk. I got my Turner Saddlery sling today and finally came across your video. Your instruction is very detailed and much easier to follow. I now have mine set up and want to use it tomorrow on my M1A (standard) with some match rounds I loaded up. I have zero training with the competitive sling. Liked and Subscribed to your channel, sir.
Thank you Andy, and welcome aboard!
How the heck does CZcams know I bought a M1907 sling for my 1903A3 last week? Most helpful video...I was close, but installed it upside down with the short strap up top. ;)
Ok, HR - You got me started with CMP high power matches. I am going from rimefire 3P to CMP high power, and am setting up my AR with a M1907 sling, and a Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 1.5-4x 20mm 1/10 Mil Adjustments AR Ballistic Reticle. Thank you and very useful. Also, thx for the great intro videos on high power rifles. FletchMan
You're welcome! I hope to see you at the range.
FletchMan...get you a laser range finder, a red dot, gillies suite, British WWII face veil, and some camoflouge, and you are set for life...Good luck shooting...
This is great. I really needed to see this. I have an M1A as well as a Car and and I have that sling on both rifles.
I’m glad it was helpful. Thanks for the comment!
Very professional and explained it well. Thank you!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching Rod!
Definitely the clearest explanation I have seen yet. I would like some clarification though on proper tensioning (Length) as a shooting sling. I am having some trouble getting it adjusted correctly. BTW, I am using the sling on a Savage Mark II for rimfire sporter cometition.
Thanks!
Steve
The rule is to get the sling as tight as possible without having it effect your shooting platform. If the sling is too tight for you to get into a good position, you need to loosen it a bit. If it's so loose, that it provides little or no support then it needs to be tightened. There is a little trial and error involved in getting the sling just right, and it needs to work in conjunction with your shooting position. No matter how you tension the sling, it will not correct for a bad position. So, again, everything has to work in harmony with everything else! Hope this helps!
hrfunk : thanks! I did just that this morning between thundershowers. I'll email you 2 pics. one is before adjustments. the second is after. 20 rounds, 15 - bulleyes with 5 or 6 x @50 yards with my 22lr. I guess it works! thanks for the excellent advice.
steve
You're welcome! Im glad it worked so well for you!
Sorry, I thought I could upload a pic but can't find a way to do it. Been shooting less than 2 years but given my proximity to Camp Perry (40-miles to the east), I can't resist the urge to participate in the National Matches.
Steve Brown no problem. Shoot me an email at hrfunk@zoominternet.net. I'd like to see how you did! Also, there is nothing in the shooting sports that is quite as cool as shooting at the National Matches. I liken it to going to the Super Bowl, being able to go down on the field and play.
I can tell this man has spent time teaching Privates.
Great job! You actually do it right and you do a good job of explaining it.
Dennis DeMille Thank you!
Excellent video. Thank you for putting this together sir!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Your content is unique and super helpful. I'm trying to set up a proper sling config. on a Garand and your video shows the details that most other videos lack. Thanks again!
You're welcome. Best of luck to you.
Great instructions!! Thanks!!
Well, you're just a fuckin genius. Best vid for this on CZcams.
Hard to beat the old school military slang
This was the most helpful leather loop sling video I found. Thanks!
Andrew Kenseth You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful.
Excellent Video and Instructions!! Thank you for sharing this!!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
Well this is one way to attach the sling. There is another method where the sling can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
There are several other ways to attach the sling. For what it’s worth, the sling configured as demonstrated in the video can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
I watched 2 other videos and yours was the best. Thanks you make a very good instructor.
Thank you! I've had quite a bit of practice over the years.
@hrfunk lots of keyboard warriors complaining about it being the "wrong way" here's some easy advice. There's a lot of things soldiers do that is different or not exactly the way the book says. Years of trial and error as well as finding what works best for you is where the stuff that works comes from. He even stated that this is a different way to do it. Hes not humping this thing 12 miles through the woods. Nor is getting ambushed a close range or assaulting a village. Hes using this set up for competition shooting. If he was carrying this every single day he might find a better method but for his purposes this is what works. No need to lose your minds on the guy.
glad you said it was a variation by a veteran. there are many ways to do this, but only one taught by army
So I've heard. I actually prefer the method I showed in the video. I'm sure there are others who prefer different ways of doing it.
New sling from CW Shields Cumberland Ohio showed up to day and I got her done thanks to your video. Can't wait to give it a spin this weekend, thanks again HRfunk
You’re welcome. Be sure to let me know how it goes.
Excellent video!! Big thanks for showing your viewers how to attach and use this sling.
You're welcome! I hope it was helpful!
Dogs not Frogs...Maybe in South Louisiana they call them Frogs...I don't know...but I do know in south Texas a Bush Hog is called a Rotary sickle...me and my brother never heard of a Rotary sickle when in south Texas in 1972...we laughed our asses off when when saw the damn thing that the man was talking about...it was a friggin Bush Hog where we came from...!
Thank You I always have a problem with the 1907 sling I now have one on each of my Bolt Action Rifles and also on my AR-15 5.56 mm CMP Rifle and my 24" barreled AR-15 5.56 mm Over Watch Rifle .
You're welcome! I hope the video helped.
I setup my sling the same way, but was taught to have one of the keepers above the upper strap, so there’s a bit of a gap between them as the top one comes down onto the extra length of strap that sticks out. Hard to describe. It serves to keep the upper frog in place. Bottom line the keepers don’t touch each other. But I’ll try it this way as well. Appreciate the clear direction.
You’re welcome. Best of luck to you!
Thank you for making this video. Just brought a 1903 back from a sporter. I have it installed now I will return for how to use it. Looks rock solid the way you are using it.
It’s quite steady. Give it a try from a good position and I think you’ll be happy!
6 years later and this video is still helping folks. I agree with another poster about having the frogs on the outside, but that's an easy change. Thank you, Sir!
My pleasure Vincent! I’m glad it’s helpful.
Thanks HR. Found your video this morning trying to put a 1907 sling on an M1 Garand!
You're welcome. I am glad it was helpful.
Not sure if you did one of these for the canvas sling. I have those on a few of my firearms and to this day I am not certain that I installed them properly. I note that I use the USN style of “quick” support for firing these rifles. Many thanks if you can do this type of video. Thank you.
I don't think I have done a video for the canvas swings. I'll see if I can get one up.
pro tip pull the tail stock frogs through and make a loop and hook them. then pull the hooks and loop up, attach the frogs to itself and then pull them against the the tail stock swivel. This will give a mechanical pinch point so the short sling stays attached to the rifle. The way you have it in the video you can have the frogs come undone and pull through and you can fine yourself laying on the hooks in prone. Ouch! You will know what I mean if you ever had that happen to you.
Thanks for the tip!
Very nice. Thanks for the how-to video
Thanks for making this video. I have the book also but it's good to see someone else set it up. Great job.
Thank you. I’m glad it was helpful!
Dam, you got it wrong. Ever since the AR crowd started using this sling you folks get it backwards.
It’s not backward, it’s just a different way of using it.
Very helpful thank you!
Good video but your frogs should be outboard, not inboard.
can you explain why the frogs must go outboard vs inboard ?
Frogs??? What've the Frenchies got to do with this???
@@Mac-mu9cs i was explained the “frogs” always go to outside , so as to prevent abrasions against rifle and or the soldiers shoulder potentially while carrying rifle , this could also result in frogs hanging up on other gear and thus being dislodged ..
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I doubt US miltary cared much about rifle abrasion or GIs shoulder.
Anyhow every thing I see how USGI ran the sling looked like this
@@Mac-mu9cs you may want to check the CMP - they state the frogs were set up on the outside - kinda makes sense, seeing as that would give the fastest adjustment access 🤷🏽♂️
Back in the day we were trained in ROTC to have the hooks on the bottom and next to each other. I no my opinion you have it backwards
Sharps 1874 No, I just do it differently than the traditional Army method.
@@hrfunk That seems odd. Aren't you supposed to show people the "right way" to do it?
When it comes to using a sling as a shooting aid, the “right” way is the way that allows you to fire the most accurate shots. The method I demonstrated is the one I use on all my service rifles in competition.
i've tried both assembly methods, and the owens method got me higher scores,so...👍 to hrfunk🙌🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you.
How about to show us a militairy attachment of the sling to the rifle?
I'll see what I can do.
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Glad I found your video . Very helpful thanks
I’m glad it was!
I thought this was sargent Carter at first glance.
Me too lol
I get that a lot!
Great video! Always wondered how to do this.
I have three slings on three rifles and now I know how to set them up and how to use them. Thanks
You’re welcome.
I always thought the leather ones were better but I'm leaning more towards the cotton one. Seems like you have to replace it every year the more you use it though.
I still like the leather slings better. They hold their adjustments more securely and they’re easier to repeat the same adjustments.
@@hrfunk yeah true. I always have to buy a new one. The seat belt kind really sucks as they slip but the cotton ones are solid for about a year or two then you got to buy a new one. I buy the two packs and it takes me about 3 years before having to buy a new set. I guess by now I can have a single leather one and maybe it’ll last longer for the same price.
it's not called 1907 military sling.. The Military doesn't go around naming it's equipment as "military", the M stands for model
Model 1 Garand
Model 1903 Springfield
Model 1911 Colt .45 pistol
So this sling is called "Model 1907 leather sling"
Forgive my use of colloquial nomenclature.
Absolutely beautiful rifle!
Thank you! I think so too.
Sure Is, I spent almost 1 year (intermittently)doing a linseed oil and paste wax finish on mine to try and get it looking like that...
Good vid, I this really puts into perspective how well you did losing weight
Thank you!
Excellent video, thanks HR.
Thanks Roy!
Very nice presentation! Great job!
Thank you!
Good stuff, sling looks like it is attached ok! However, should the "Metal" fittings on the sling be facing away from the stock to prevent scratching and/or damage? Just another way I attach the M1907 slings to my rifles. Regards, RJW
It's attached properly for the way I use it. The metal fittings (frogs) rarely contact the stock, and the few marks they make when they do just add character to the wood. Contrary to popular belief, rifles used for service rifle matches lead a pretty grueling life, and they usually show some scars to prove it.
Yeah prety sure it is backwards. Its 100% right just hardware goes out been shooting NRA high power and CMP matches for years and I've yet to see anyone else set up that way, use this type sling on my 03A3, M1, M1A, and my M16A2clone, there are none better.
Great presentation
Thank you Hank!
Outstanding video. Thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked it!
Thanks! Couldn’t have done it without you.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for making this video. I just bought a Marlin 336 and I plan on putting a 1907 sling on it because I think leather on a lever action rifle looks good and I figure I would use a 1907 sling.
The 1907 sling should work fine and dandy! Enjoy your new rifle!
I love your videos. Best videos I've seen for clear and concise info.
Thank you Jason!
Great, easy to follow instruction. Thanks for the video.
J D you're welcome!
Great video, watched multiple times. Still can’t figure it out. Guess I’m not a military man, but I sure do love old rifles
Thank you for the helpful video sir
You’re most welcome.
Fantastic,now I'm on to steady my rifle I think my sling is different than this one mine came from Springfield arm's I don't have the metal D - ring on my short strap like yours but, I can buy another a1907 sling
I don't understand why both keepers are below the frog. I always had one above and one below. Also, I see no reason to put the lower frog on the inside. It's easier to get to on the outside.
Your video was very helpfull for me! Thank you and best regards from Germany!
Thomas You're welcome! I'm glad to have helped.
Thanks! You help out a forgetful old sailor, appreciate it, sorry.
I had a difficult time trying to get the hook side through the loop on the stock. It catches in the brass. I'm guessing that I could try and file the brass down a but to make enough room to pull it through?
It’s usually a little tight, but it should fit.
Put your watch on your right hand. You're welcome.
Excellent video my man,, just went step by step with you to put a triple K military sling on my new Winchester 70 458 mag
brad fiser Outstanding! Glad to be of service.
Can we just use one of our briefcase belts with hooks? Would that look bad or stupid?
How do you attach a sling that has swing swivel on it already? I feel like they will scratch my guns swivels? Thanks, great video!
Thank you Sir!
You’re welcome Chris!
Well , since your the only one who knows what he is doing , I will ask you. I have seen 3 ways to install a 1907 style sling on the M1 rifle and the M1A , own both I dont know which is correct and I am quite puzzled by the whole thing , not going to carry it cross country , just in target shooting, not fond of the canvas slings I have now , so I bought a reproduction M1907 to install on the M1 rifle , looking at photos , I see frogs in , out , and backwards , loop retainers every where on the sling set ups. If this is the Marine set up , then I will go with it , just need to know, thanks
This IS the Marine set up. The thing is, different shooters prefer different sling configurations. That’s why you see so many different ways of going about it. Thanks for watching!
@@hrfunk I didnt want catch the crap I caught like last time with my little supply wagon , welding coat and glove and sling in its present position from the "GREAT OZ" at the next rifle match is all , thank you for the info.
You’re welcome!
How come no one has ever done a video on the cuff sling?.
If you're referring to the sling I'm thinking of, I haven't seen one in years. I didn't know they were still being made.
I'm a fan of your videos very informative but it seems like every video I've watched shows it done a different way.. may I ask what book you were referencing?
If you do a search on books by Master Sergeant Jim Owens, you'll find his book on slings. That is the book/method I use. Good luck!