Model 1917 Gun Sling, M1907 Installation and Use (TF 1-05A)
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- This training film covers the installation and use of the Gun Sling, M1907 (Leather), on the US Rifle Model of 1917 per FM 23-6.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:54 Installation
03:19 Adjustment
04:49 Loop Sling
06:27 Hasty Sling
Your video of installing the sling was much easier to follow than the other guys
Thank you. Glad it helped!
My dad taught me this using a British 303 he had in the late 60's as a child, he had to qualify at basic with the M1 Garand or the 1903 as shown, for some reason he thought we kids needed to know how to use this type sling and of course i taught my kid also, i started making these in my leather shop and using videos like this to double check my memory, the video here was the most professionally played out and explained that I have ever seen, well done indeed
Thank you very much! The sling design is well over 100 years old and is still a practical and useful sling if set up right! The British actually used this sling on thier No.4 Mk.1(T) sniper rifles also.
Clear, concise instructions. Just mounted my sling on my M1917 and it went without a hitch. Thanks for these videos. Please keep up the great work!
Thanks! Glad you got your sling on smoothly!
This is the best and most clear video on the leather sling, I have found. THANK YOU
Thank you! I'm glad you think so.
Great video! Just recently purchased a 1897 that was converted to a trench gun at some point in its life. Picked up this slign to match and had no idea how to set it up. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad to help. Hopefully some day I'll be able to get my hands on a 1897 to make some content.
Just had a Winchester 97 professionally converted to a trench gun. I added the period correct sling with the help of your video.
Awesome, glad it helped! Get the M1917 bayonet to go with it?
Not yet but looking for a reasonable priced original!!
@@chrismayer7762 Yeah, reasonably priced is the hard part.
It’s worth it in the long run
By far the best video I have found for assembly of this sling . Thank you
Thanks! Glad it helped!
@@HistoryinFirearms sure did
Absolutely needed directions on the 1907 sling. Thanks👍
Glad it helped! Can be a bit daunting at first but it's a great design!
@@HistoryinFirearms As a collector of 1903s, 1917s, Garands and some other things. It definitely helps.
I agree with you because I was totally lost on the other videos this guy is pretty good
Thanks for the video. I picked up an original 1907 sling for my No4 Mk1 T.
You are welcome! That's just the sling that rifle needs! 👍
Excellent video! Thanks for putting this together
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks for the video! Great information.
You're welcome! Glad it was useful.
4:49 - I can’t imagine that the US military actually thought soldiers at the front line in WWI would mess with all this sling adjustment stuff when bullets were flying at their heads and all their friends were dropping like flies around them.
I don't think they were under that illusion. I think the mindset was more along the lines of target shooting for better or worse. The sights on the M1903 are another example of this. Not the best option for running across no man's land or in a trench. The 1917 sights were an improvement, but they came from the British.
I believe teaching this was largely for qualifications.
You rock. Thanks for this. I picked up a 1903 recently and bought a period-matching sling and was totally lost!
Glad to help! Congrats on your '03! I will eventually get to 1903 specific videos, but the 1907 sling set up is the same for any rifle. The video on the M1917 cleaning kit would also be the same for the '03.
Enjoyed your presentation , you know your stuff .
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
Looks like the sling provides good support.
A sling that has stood the test of time for sure.
This is the way I understood the sling should be mounted.
This is per the training manual.
Best video on this thanks! Subscribed!
Thank you for the compliment and the sub!
I assume both work in the prone position? Great explanation btw
Yes, they can both work in the prone position. Thanks!
I followed this exactly for my sling and it works, but now I’m confused by other videos that insist that the two keepers have to be together up against the hooks. That leaves one of the hooks unsupported. Have you seen this method high power shooters use? It’s close enough I guess it doesn’t matter much, just curious.
I have seen this method used. It's certainly an option and I wouldn't say it incorrect or wrong. The method in the video comes from the Army Field Manual for the M1 Rifle. I think it's a matter of priorities/concerns for the shooter, i.e. which connection/loop do they want to ensure stays put.
@@HistoryinFirearms Thanks; the method shown here in your video is also the one shown on the CMP website, so that makes sense. The Army Marksmanship Unit seems to follow a similar method but that put the hooks facing outward (not that I've had an issue with the hooks scratching the stock as there's leather in front of them for the most part), while the Marines and Highpower shooters put the two keepers together below the hooks, and push both keepers down to tighten the loop on the upper arm. I was just interested in being historically accurate for the M1, and may adjust the sling differently if I ever compete with it. Thanks again.
I think if you dove into looking at historical photos there would probably be all sorts of variations. The closest "official" attachment is probably what's in the video.
@@HistoryinFirearms I think you’re right, thanks!
Great training aid - thanks for putting it together! What do you recommend for the case of a sling which is set up correctly, but the sling runs out of adjustment before the loop reaches your upper arm? I am a stocky man - big with long arms. Are these things sized to the man and/or the rifle or does one size fit all?
Glad you found it helpful! The slings were not rifle/person specific. That being said there is definitely some variations in length even with originals. If you have a longer length set for the shooting sling, it may not adjust to a tight parade sling without readjusting the hooks. If you can't get a shooting sling set up with it adjusted to the longest length, you may need to look for a longer sling.
@@HistoryinFirearms - Thanks for the tips.... much appreciated!
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 You are welcome!
I'm seeing some guys installing the sling with the frogs on the outside while many hi-power shooters with the frogs on the inside. Totally confused.
It could be installed other ways.
Im having trouble adjusting it to get it tight. Thats the only part that confuses me.
The section on installation was really easy to follow! I bought a sling and the keepers came on the short section of sling for God knows what reason. 🤦🏾♂️ So it was super helpful to see where they actually should be.
I'm glad the video was helpful! Adjusting with a new sling can be tricky because the sling isn't broken in yet. It may take some time. If that's not the issue make sure the keepers are not keeping it from sliding. Just a couple suggestions. Hope that helps.
The rifle with the "muddy" firing pin.
I'm not familiar with a muddy firing pin. 🤔
Seeing this video of the Enfield jarred my memory from long ago concerning an article in the American Rifleman in the 60's. The article talked about the cock on closing design along with the cock on opening mods. The article went on to describe design glitches that often caused light primer strikes caused by debris and carbon gathering on the firing pin, hence the "muddy" firing pin. Never owned a M1917, but read that a lot of them were converted into excellent sporting rifles.
Thanks Jude Law!
👍
Great video, but still too fast to be able to follow along. 😕
Thanks! Sorry it's to fast to follow along. The pace of a video is always a balancing act.
Downvotes MUST be from the anti-firearm crusaders.
Haha, must be. Thanks!