CHEAP JUNKYARD BOOST PLUS NITROUS-HOW TO ADD NITROUS TO YOUR (OTHER GUYS) SUPERCHARGED L67 3800 V6
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- čas přidán 4. 01. 2022
- CAN YOU ADD NITROUS TO A SUPERCHARGED L67 3800 V6? WILL NITROUS WORK AS AN INTERCOOLER? CAN NITROUS LOWER MY CHARGE TEMPERATURES? HOW MUCH POWER IS NITROUS WORTH? CAN YOU COMBINE BOOST WITH NITROUS? WILL THE 3800 TAKE BOTH BOOST AND NITROUS? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I ADDED A WET FOGGER NITROUS KIT FROM NITROUS XPRESS TO A MODIIFED L67 SUPERCHARGED 3800 V6. THE TEST MOTOR WAS FIRST MODIFIED WITH A SMALL COMP CAM, 3.0-INCH BLOWER PULLEY AND TUBE HEADERS. AFTER RUNNING THE MOTOR ON E85 WITH THE HIGHER BOOST, I ADDED THE NITROUS KIT WITH A 52/28 JET COMBO. HOW MUCH EXTRA POWER WAS THE NITROUS WORTH ON THE BLOWER MOTOR AND HOW MUCH DID THE NITROUS AND FUEL LOWER THE INLET AIR TEMPS?
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These motors are so much better with an intercooler, so looking forward to that test. At some point cylinder pressure will exceed what the TTY bolts can handle, heads lift and the head gasket blows out.
Ya but the bolts probably won't fail with that supercharger I mean I didn't at over 500 HP with the nitrous and I don't know how much more power the intercooler will make but in the real world it would just be a lot more reliable because he said on the Dyno it hear soaked fairly quickly and thats not in a hot engine bay
@@james10739 trust me, with a 3.0 pulley an intercooler and a 125 shot of nitrous, the heads will lift. The bolts may not fail, but they will stretch enough to blow out the head gasket and to produce a nice flame and then you sound like a choo choo train. Lol
@@GreaseMonkeyGarageTX Unopened 3800 longblocks have held more cylinder pressure than any m90 could support.
Can't get enough of this , thanks for showing your tuning procedure as well , all such "save yer bacon" information , indisputable , in front of our eyes , thanks Richard......
Good job and thanks for the awesome vid! Finally someone taking interest in these engines who knows what they're talking about.
Would love to see one of these non intercooled applocations where you compare "regular" non hydrous Ethanol, to a 5/10% water by volume Ethanol. I saw a ton of detonation protection and charge cooling on my test rig, but a dyno on a larger engine than my 30cc 2 stroke would be incredible! I would expect a good gain from the cooling on the non intercooled 3800
Richard is the Man!! All the information for making more power and doing it safe!
I though for so many years that the gasoline and nitrous effected the rotors in the Eaton supercharger. I thought wrong awesome test Richard
3800 stuff yehhhhhhh cant wait to see the w2a data. Keep up the great work richard
Love the charge air temp data. Can't wait for intercooler results and compare it to your water meth data.
me too!! It immediately made me go look up charge temp data for turbo applications as it would allow for more cooling effect i would think as you could put it further down the charge pipe.
These motors are amazing. The 90 degree and 60 degree V6's are bulletproof. I wish there was more aftermarket for the 3100 and 3400 motors.
Good info! The great 3800 is a great platform!
This is a great series!!
I'm surprised (and glad) that fuel leak did not cause a fire. I love all of these non "LET'S TALK" videos.
Holy Hell! How did that not catch fire?! I didn't actually thought it was just a water leak from the throttle body, then when I read it was a fuel leak, My ass instantly clenched...
Outstanding Video sir! Love it.
THNX
Good God. That fuel leak could've ended very different. honestly would have thought the charge temperature would have dropped more.
I thought the same thing, figured the nitrous would have dramatically dropped IAT.
Me too!
Richard great info as always , on a turbo application say a BBC where you’re running out of turbos and turbines are smallish if you add an eighty shot does it raise exhaust pressure enough that it is pointless ?
HAVE NOT TESTED A RESTRICTED APPLICATION LIKE THAT
I love my L67. Mine will have a TVS 1900, maybe nitrous.
Is be interesting to see a comparison between this and a turbocharged setup with similar boost and AFR. It would show the parasitic losses of the supercharger, and would be very interesting.
IT WON'T SHOW THE PARASITIC LOSES-MORE TO THE POWER DIFFERENCE THAN THAT
Would be interesting to see what the biggest cam you could get for this motor would do, how much would it lower boost and how much would power increase or is the supercharger itself a restriction
I have seen a box stock 454 sprayed to 850+HP, Nitrous can for sure add lots of power.
Nitrous!!!💥
I am really enjoying this 3800 content. Any possibility of revisiting Mazda B6 and BP power adders?
MAZDA?
@@richardholdener1727 Miata!
You need to do a compound run with the eBay gt45 (intercooled) with the nitrous to get over 800hp
Can't seem to catch you live, so I'll post the idea here. The Chrysler 2.2 2.5 with a neon dohc head. 420a style ...I'm told will bolt on without much modification. Would love seeing the results of that
STAYING 8V
Any chance we can get better mic quality, or the engine/exhaust volume turned up so we can actually hear the engine when you show the dyno runs ? Otherwise, if we can't hear the dyno runs, there's not much point showing them, unless something fails spectacularly.
Think regular header collector extensions and maybe an h pipe would give a few more hp up top and pump up low rpm torque?
THESE HAVE FWD HEADERS
Might be apples and oranges but I wanna do one of those carb mini blowers like a 144 or what ever and put it on a 4.2 ford I believe the carb on top the blower could cool it all the time
IT HELPS
Hey Richard. Eric Weingartner would like for you to contact him, he has a theory that he wants to dyno test, thanks!
Would like to this engine turbo charged in your nova with 5 speed would be fun ride that's for sure. Be cool to have something different.
Do you work on CZcams fan cars cuz I have a 92 trofeo that would love your attention
I would add a foot long tube to the throttle body to direct the no2 into the the engine
WHY
Would love to see what the difference would be on a simulated 1/4 mile pass. 12-13 degrees on a pull could end up being 60-70 degrees difference during a much longer (then dyno) track pass.
the dyno pull lasts longer than the track pass
@@richardholdener1727 Just rewatched the video. Yes, lets hope it's longer than a 1/4 pass! lol
a typical dyno pull is 12-15 seconds at wot
Turbos come on?! More boost please,..and thank you 😊
2:34 I wish I could start out rich 😂😂😉
Maybe u could hack a junk super charger and bolt a holley carb to it and run it again
How much did the boost go up?
When adding nitrous to an already boosted SBC do you take additional timing out as non boosted applications? I’m already taking timing out for boost.
Thank you,
TAKE MORE OUT
@@richardholdener1727 Thank you,
New year more boost!
Think I'll build a 393w. Got a 100 shot of gas, cause I got it! Maybe just stick a 357? Got all the parts?!! The turbo application?! It's going in the truck my father gave me. WTF, got everything for a 357w! Put the aluminum heads on it, 100 shot on it! It's likely to kill me Stock block hydraulic roller cam! 3.73 gears, push the button at the first gear shift? It'll live long enough to kill me?😂😂😂
What's stoich on E-85? or whats your safe target on that fuel?
11.8 ON THE GAS SCALE
Why would you pull timing before NOS . Pull at RPM of hit
WE DON'T HAVE THE NX WIRED INTO THE HOLLEY-EASY WAY
How fast CAN you talk? Could you do one of those auctions?
oh he'd be a great auctioneer!
You should do this again but with meth. Theres a big debate whether or not meth will cool IATs when it's sprayed through the blower and possibly an intercooler underneath.
E85 PLUS -129 DEGREES NITROUS-IT WON'T GET ANY COLDER THAN THAT-THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TO COOL THE CHARGE AIR
@@richardholdener1727 Oh I believe nitrous will cool the charge the best. I've just been curious as to if meth will make any difference (by itself). I had a Kenne Bell 2v Mustang on e85 that would heat soak like a bitch on hot summer days. I bought a meth kit to test out but never installed it.
port the blower for differences !!
How much boost before you knock the rods out of it because the stock oiling system sucks
this is an interesting question for sure! Plus, 565 is alot different running through a trans and rear axle so it'd be interesting to see these upgrades done on actual cars at the track or a closed course.
Ive ran one of these 3800's for years. Beat the living shit out of it with small blower pulleys, then swapped to turbo, never had a bottom end issue.
@@TurboTPI That's awesome!!! were yours in RWD configurations?? We are planning to build a jet boat car and using an SSEi as a engine/trans combo with the engine/trans in the rear. Is the trans beefy enough to handle abuse like that? We were thinking a turbo for appearance and a good torque converter to help with acceleration.
@@NarxolepticCustoms Mine was FWD (Buick Regal GS). If your planning on running the 4T65E trans, plan on atleast putting a 300M input shaft in it and the later design (gemini) drive chains
Is the nitrous jump 200+HP?
NO
Personally I blame squirrels
Early bird
I don't think you can talk much faster without boost! p.s. my wife saw you in the black sweatshirt and said you look like Richards evil twin...LOL
IT'S COVID RICHIE
I need some nitrous for my girlfriend
Man 1000cc of pure meth is gonna make a hell of a difference going through that heat pump
Inject n2o & liquid propane
oooooo this sounds interesting!!!! now i have to go do this research.....lol
@@NarxolepticCustoms I've seen some kits for sale for vipers many years ago. Propane should be around -40 when injected.
@@AndyFromm That's awesome! I know there are cars that run on propane solely but I am interested to see the burn qualities of it with something like E85.
@@NarxolepticCustoms I've had a couple propane fueled vehicles. I'm thinking on building one again & run turbo propane. Might be cool to run a extra shot of n20 & lp
If a person has dynoed this many engines this many years beyond the age of enlightenment and this many years after me annoyingly pointing it out that TORQUE measurements are COMPLETELY irrelevant and they still insist on referring to the virtually irrelevant measurement they should really, seriously take a look deep inside their soul. Public debate MORE THAT WELCOME Richard.
Virtually zero chance you'll accept.
TORQUE IS IRRELEVANT?
@@richardholdener1727 absolutely. You can prove me wrong by posting the conversion formula from torque to any other metric of power. Hint: force is NOT power.
The practical application of this distinction error is something I've seen you do in practically every single video. You'll say something like "gained 50 HP at 7000 but lost 50 ftlb at 3000" as if that is an equal trade. It simply is NOT. It is actually trading 50 HP at 7000 for 28 HP at 3000. The significance of this difference is even more pronounced on low RPM engines.
Nitrous adds power? I don't know. When I huff nitrous it makes me Woozy.
Dude, seriously...how many years are you going to keep on jamming your fingers into your ears and not listening!?!?!?
E85 does NOT run at anywhere near 12:1. Absolutely inexcusable mistake for a wanna-be expert
HOW MANY YEARS IS IT GOING TO TAKE BEFORE YOU UNDERSTAND THISIS THE GAS SCALE-THE METER HAS ALREADY CONVERTED TO DIFFERENCE IN STOICH VALUES
@@richardholdener1727so....you agree that you're wrong. The majority of your viewers have no clue and you're not helping them by using the wrong metric.