Cheap VS. Expensive Jazzmaster Challenge
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- How does this $199 Indio Jazzmaster-clone compare with a Fender Custom Shop Jazzmaster? @60CycleHumcast and @JayLeonardJ put it to the test. Check out this cheap versus expensive Jazzmaster challenge.
Indio OS40 DLX on Amazon: amzn.to/4d4DM9L
🔊 Signal Chain: Indio by Monoprice Offset OS40 DLX Plus, and Jay’s Fender Custom Shop Jazzmaster → Walrus Audio Canvas Tuner → Warm Audio ODD Box V1 Overdrive → Source Audio True Spring Reverb → Walrus Audio Fundamental Series Delay → Blackstar HT Club 40 MKIII mic’d with a Warm Audio WA-87 mic.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:42 Jazzmaster Custom Shop comparison
8:24 A Partsmaster? - Hudba
Craziest thing I did to my expensive (now vintage) guitar is not playing it in favor of a €350 Squier.
😱 Wow! That is unexpected. That must have been one great Squire or you were just wanting to ensure your guitar remained in mint condition.
@@NoFearGuitarGear81 LP Custom vs. 23 Squier JM. I prefer the neck profile of the Squier JM to the flat, slim LP neck. Also, the Squier has a vibrato. I wanna play surf music so.....
The Jazzmaster sounds soooo good.
His modded Benton sounds really good.
I do not now, nor will ever play well enough to appreciate the difference. The Indio offset has been on my wishlist for a while
It is great that instruments like this are available and at a great price. With everything else so darn expensive we love to find a few products like this and share them. If you get one we would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Aim for the stars.
The moral of this story: Buy a cheap guitar and then go all Dr. Frankenstein on it.
Amen.
I see JayLenordJ and Ryan from 60 Cycle Hum and I just watch them both lol! Love Ryan's love of budget guitars and Jay's playing is just underrated and tremendous lol!! Love Ryan's Frankenstien Telemaster there too lol! Would also like to see a full size episode for this lol!
Thanks @offdutyjie 🙏🏼 It was awesome having Jay and Ryan together, they have amazing chemistry and both bring so much to the guitar gear dialog. Ryan did make a video on his channel about the Partsmaster that is here: czcams.com/video/UxxpZ2g9gN8/video.html We have more videos coming with Jay and Ryan and more on the channel already we hope that you check them out.
@@NoFearGuitarGear Love it! Thank You so much lol!! All of these unknown gears are awesome to see and the video ideas are inspiring as well!
Very surprising on that Indio. And as for my most extensive guitar. Lol a player strat. I popped a set of Tex-Mex pickups in with a 10 way switch.
We all have our vices. 🤷🏼♂️ The Player+Tex Mex Partscaster idea does sound cool. 👍🏼
My #1 complaint right out the gate is that I have yet to find a Jazzmaster copy that has the same sized body than a JM..for what I assume is copyright reasons. I LOVE my larger bodied JMs!
I modded a Harley Benton Jazzmaster (with lots of your inspiration) but I left the pickups since it sounded so good. I just updated the internals with new 1Meg pots and a switchable capacitor from Mythos Pedals and shielded the inside. It is so good with a cheap wiggle stick too. It lost some tuning stability but I like the broken sound of the stringless always just floating in an out of tune
That sounds cool. Glad that we could inspire your PartsMaster exploration there. We love your approach. Enjoy!
amazing!
okay, so when ryan (only recently found him) told him it was "low quality" i laughed my flipping arse vs ass off. facts. hahah!
great channel, is this new?
cheers.
Thanks @christopher-miles so glad that you liked it. Yes we are a new channel, working with a small team of talented GuitarTubers, TikTokers, and guitar industry insiders. We hope to make some content to inform and entertain you.
Recently bought my first fender guitar been playing upright bass for years. A lovely jaguar… first thing I ripped off the neck and installed a shim within two weeks I had the chisel out hocking chunks out of the body to give me more room to install a variable coil split circuit in the upper cavity for a set of vintage overspun PAF humbuckers and les Paul wiring… pretty crazy to spend so much on a guitar and rip it up almost right away.
That is disappointing. The one Fender we had for this was a few years old and it was a winner, but we know that is not always the case for any brand.
@@NoFearGuitarGear disappointing? There was nothing wrong with it. But it went from not bad to awesome. And I learned a butt load about wiring schemes and tone and actually use it a lot more from understanding why it sounds the way it does.
The Fiesta red is great
I've got a Gibson SG baritone and the paint job on the neck was getting off. So I sanded the spot down and painted it over with white nail polish :) It looks awesome together with the yellowed nitro finish.
White nail polish to refinish a neck, wow that is unexpected. Very cool. Will have to give that a try.
@@NoFearGuitarGear I only refinished a spot a few centimeters in size. Gibson's quality control missed an air bubble under the neck where the finish chipped off. It used to be the same color in the beginning but the nitro turned yellow quickly and the nail polish remained largely the same giving it a very special look. This feature is almost as cool as my ESP Eclipse buckle rush :) It's the living proof that poly can age great too looking like broken glass.
@@SxSxG666 two additional insights there. Maybe if someone wanted to fix their neck with nail polish they pick a color that looks like aged nitro. 😉 Also love your perspective on poly. 👍🏼
JLJ is Gold!
Agreed!
I liked the zebra paint, for an amateur you did an amazing job
Ryan really did do a great job. It looks really cool in person as well.
@@NoFearGuitarGear ya, It's much harder than it looks
These two guys are great
Thanks @RalphPacheco2 🙏🏼 Jay and Ryan do have great chemistry and love guitar stuff, that makes it all so fun. We appreciate you checking out our channel.
I finish-checked and refinished a brand new Gibson Flying V :/
Hard for me to tell much difference, sound wise. Maybe in person the custom is a lot more impressive
In person you would hear a difference, just in the P90 versus traditional Jazzmaster electronics, but the difference was not huge and that darn Indio did surprise us.
Guitarfetish jazzmaster pickups are cheap and the many choices make them better than stock.
Stupidest thing I did to my most expensive guitar, I spend $100 in files to try my hand at sawing away the fret ends on my Gibson Zootsuit. No one will see the damage but me... The scars are hard to look at although now super luxurious and gratifying to play!
Wow, that was bold. At least you have them and some experience in case you need to fix up another guitar in the future.
@@NoFearGuitarGear yea too bad I didn’t have anything else to practice on! Sharp fret ends seem to be common on my Gibsons only. It had to be done, and I wasn’t about to give it to some stranger. Was like learning to drive in a Lamborghini lol. It worked out in the end though. Now playing it feels great and still looks good. No fear guitar gear 😎 I didn’t realize this was the channel I was watching but I can get with it 😎
@@Mottspockets That is impressive that you got it playing well and to stay playing well. Thanks for checking out our channel. 🙏🏼
Next time use a 600 sanding sponge, 10 minutes and done
@@davidcollin1436 looking into it thanks
Is the little ones Body made of Wood ?
Yes it is made from Alder wood. Since it is just a gloss finish you can see it. They use many pieces of Alder, but generally this is a good wood choice and the guitar sounds pretty good.
OS20 or OS40?
We have the Indio OS40 DLX, we got it on Amazon here: amzn.to/3R3zxSr
I remember when basswood a the cheap wood cheap guitars were made from. Top of the lounge guitars use basswood these days and sell it as atonewood. It's all marketing. While craftsmanship is real, they price of guitars is primarily snake oil.
You are correct basswood was initially adopted in the least expensive instruments and now is in stuff at all prices. Can't deny some of that is marketing, but the other thing is basswood does have its own sonic properties and players have embraced that for their sound in many cases. Also pickups, effects, and amps have come so far that the little sonic edge you get from the wood in the body is less of a difference maker than it once was. Lots of factors behind the broadening of the use of basswood from what we have seen.
The Pink one has better sounding PUs !
For some reason, it seems a lot harder to find a truly authentic JM clone than a truly authentic Strat or Tele clone. With Strats and Teles, it’s not that hard to find good clones with styling, pickups, and hardware that are completely interchangeable with a genuine Fender. Not so for the JM-it seems like most JM clones fall short of the real thing in some way, like having a slightly smaller body, no rhythm circuit, P90’s instead of proper JM-style pickups (such as on the OS40), and/or different bridge/vibrato tailpiece hardware (like the Harley Benton JA-60). I think Ryan is correct that the OS40 might just be the cheapest JM clone out there that has an authentic JM-style bridge and vibrato tailpiece. I know IYV makes a couple of JM clones with JM-style tailpieces and even rhythm circuits, but still with only P90-style pickups and Wilkinson-type roller Tune-o-Matic bridges, which might actually be better for tuning stability.
You are 100% correct, for some reason the alternative brands fail to go all the way on their Jazzmaster clones. We will keep looking.
Try "Vintage" Guitars jazzmaster model
Vintage the brand or an old vintage Jazzmaster?
@@NoFearGuitarGear vintage the brand :)
@@NinoDungeon Thanks for confirming. I have added it to our list.
Nothing crazy...yet.
Please not use any of the effect devices. Lets hear the Jazzmasters sound pure ! Neck, Bridge , Middle Position and then differend Sounds please.
This channel was only marginally better without these two, especially the dull blonde, but it was *still* better