The Erroneous Fetishisation of Precomposition | Response to Comments

Welcome to the first seminar discussion video. Here, I'm responding to your comments and questions.
This seminar discussion is about the erroneous fetishisation of precompositional processes. We cover composition vs. precomposition; intuitive composing and tonality; restriction and freedom in precomposition; the importance (or not) of hearing the compositional process in the final composition (yes, very meta); and whether or not the Avant Garde is esoteric.
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[@Jose-gq9bt]

I am a composition student, and for me, finding this hidden channel has just brightened up my night. Best of luck!

[@SunePors1]

A rigid framework like a magic square is much more creatively inspiring than a blank page. I've enjoyed following your composing process.

[@CameronWattMusic]

I generally feel that if someone says "composition comes from the heart", like, yeah it's a nice sentiment but what about making something work musically? Or making it not work? That's the whole point of having a creative process, is that we get to decide these types of things. If someone says "real composition", we get into discussions of what even is "real music", which people tend to use as a way of discarding valuable work that doesn't fit into their preconceived boxes.

[@AlannahMarie]

That’s a good point, and well worded.

[@CameronWattMusic]

@@AlannahMarie Also, credit to you for engaging with your commenters in a discursive way. It's a hard thing to do on CZcams.

[@AlannahMarie]

@CameronWattMusic thank you!

[@sttngiscool]

Super interesting! Would love to watch a video diving more in depth into metathories of composing!

[@OctopusContrapunctus]

Wonderful video, as a student of composition i find myself to want to explore more and my teacher support me in that, but some people are really disrespectful to composers and their attempts and successes, that are not "hummable". This give me always a bad aftertaste in any of my attempts.

[@StefaanHimpe]

I have a whole playlist of compositions that are based on 12-tone rows but do not sound atonal or alienating (even though the rows are generated completely randomly using some computer code). Like you said, it's what you do with the material that determines the outcome.

[@CameronWattMusic]

I have a joke for you. It is a joke that has a title.
The Conservative Has A Very Sad Face
An avant-garde artist and a confused social conservative walk into a bar. The conservative says, “Look at me, I’m bellyaching about this!” The artist says, “What are you bellyaching about?” The conservative has a very sad face. He has no reason to believe that the music of the avant-garde artist doesn’t come from the heart. But he chooses to believe that anyway. The artist then asks the question, “Do you want to know the meaning of the Mona Lisa smile?” The conservative says, “Meaning? We have to be careful here.” The artist throws a pint of lager over the conservative’s face. As the beer drips down his face, he says “Do something that comes from the heart.”

[@AlannahMarie]

Hahaha brilliant