Don was right,ad is not carrying the lakers to the finals,not after that 7 game streak loss in a row,embiid and jokic are outright carrying,ad is just not that guy
@@guillermogutierrez47facts. The past 3 MVPs and a guy who is FINALLY having the season we’ve been wanting him to have but some nights ain’t even as good as LeBron, shouldn’t be a debate
Realistically they should have AD in A tier and move everyone else down a tier. The argument really comes down to how far is AD from the others considering you can say hes top 10 or so in the league where as all the other "A" players are closer to 25-40
Yea I agree I don’t think AD belongs in the same tier as Jokic and Embiid but he’s definitely better than the guys in that a tier if there was an a/a+ tier it would have been for AD alone
It’s kinda like Kawhi. He’s not gonna win an MVP, and mostly seen as a “1b” guy. Should’ve had an S++ Tier or smth. It’s like putting MJ in “just” S-Tier even tho by tier list standards it’s not wrong.
But he is not in the same level as Bam and the rookies, he can be in S tier without being at the same level of the other two because he is top 3 centers in the league
But he's closer to the S-tier guys than the A-tier guys. You can be a S-tier player without being on the level of Jokic and Embiid. He's definitely 3rd in that tier.
@@thedeep3poddo a draft of only players who were at one point the second best on their team (dwyane wade, oscar robertson, Tony parker, scottie pippen, kevin durant, etc etc
@@thedeep3pod this one may be basic but only players that weren’t first round pick ex jokic and Khris Middleton who were second round picks and guys who were undrafted Ben Wallace or FVV
i feel like they were gaslighting him or something lol isaac seem like the type of guy who purposely tries to make you angry then laughs at you for being angry
@@nomorepartiezzdo you know what the word gaslighting means? they clearly just both think theyre right and are stubborn about it lol. stop overanalyzing shit, literally just friends having an argument. take a break from the internet man
I agree with Don TBH, there is a massive difference between Embiid and Jokic, and then AD. I'd still put AD in S cause I think he's solidly above Bam, but AD is a 2nd option on a mid Lakers team, whereas the top two are the 1st options on really good squads. Them acting like Don is crazy for his take is wild though, that debate whilst funny to watch, was annoying to see, cause Don didn't deserve that amount of shit for a decent if not good take.
I enjoy the streams, you guys have a fun and enjoyable discourse on both the pods and streams but I do enjoy the specific reaction to recent news on the livestreams where the pods educate me a little more about basketball. Keep pushing it.
I think the problem with the AD debate isn’t that he isn’t S-tier (which I think is true) but rather that Chet and Wemby aren’t A-tier. Isaac kept resorting to the “You’re really gonna put AD in a tier with two rookies!?” When, really, those rookies didn’t belong in that tier to begin with. Wemby and Chet are playing really well, at like a fringe all-star level, but if they were in their 6th season playing at this level, people wouldn’t be as enamored with them as they are now.
Today's tier list and 50th episode's Wilt Chamberlain rant are the most clinical performances Don has ever put in the history of TD3!!! #justicefordonavan #td3
Issac was right about AD not being on the same tier as everyone in A, but Don was right about him not being at the same tier as Embiid and Jokic. Jokic and Embiid are clear top 3 players in the league and they have 100% seperated themselves from AD with being top 2 in MVP voting for the last 3 years.
i think ranking AD just comes as to how much value he brings cause hes a player having an S-tier year and judging by whos in A-tier, AD should be ranked S-tier because players in A-tier are just no where near ADs level of talent. but when you have jokic and embiid in S-tier, it changes the narrative because they are both once in a generational players and AD is just not on the same level which is why you would want him in A-tier. realistically though, id still put AD in S-tier because hes far better then those in A-tier but is still worse than those in S-tier but the gap between the two imo shows that AD is more of an S-tier caliber player than an A-tier caliber player
I love the livestreams especially for news and fan interactions. I dont always participate because the timing is not good for me to join live but i always watch to see the nba news ive missed and the atrocious takes of some of my fellow crayon eaters.
Another pod where Don stays the most realistic in these tier lists I swear. I feel like his being real and strict and consistent gets confused with hating. He was right with AD and he was right with Rudy!! Only reason Isaac put AD on S tier was that Lakers fan in him. The debate was fun to watch but its sad seeing my guy get out voted every time
They were very wrong about the Milwaukee bucks not having depth they got portis,pat connaughton,and two promising young players in beauchamp and Andre Jackson jr.
Don is so right tho, Davis is nowhere near the offensive producer Jokic and Embid are. Defense can't be enough to put you in S Tier when you struggle to score double digits in points half the time. That means you don't have as much impact on your team as those 2, meaning I wouldn't put them anywhere near the same tier. Top of A is correct.
I dont blame Don for being mad. A.D has not been playing to the standard everyone puts him at. He's not an Embiid or Jokic caliber, he can be but he doesn't do it. LeBron literally telling you this your team and you can't take over and be the main guy. Now a 39 yr old is carrying you.🤦🏿♂️ This is coming from a Lakers fan btw.
I love the live streams, would just love to see them on a day like Wednesday instead. I’ve been rewatching the live streams, and the good vibes and funny comments make them feel like an actual episode and not an afterthought. Good work all around!
I would love to see you guys discuss if you think any of the teams you make in the draft would make a certain goal you set prior (for this one it might be like making playoffs, for the all time one it could have been a three-peat , etc etc)
1:38:22 - 1:44:57 This is by far the most heated Don has gotten on a tier list😂. Also Mo needs to get on donovans side and stop always picking the white man over him😅
i think the live atreams are grea, i like the idea, and i thjink making the part where you review hot takes sort of like tiktok time on the main pod would be a good idea
I am a Lakers fan and I agree with Don AD should be in A. Though he is a good defender and a rebounder but his offense is inconsistent both in the regular season and in the playoffs.
If Don didn’t have that blanket, the aneurysm was gonna strike. 😂 Needs to swing by all these snowstorm locations to chop up all this ice and lay down some salt.
I do enjoy both the livestreams and the episodes. I like the talking points you guys have on the episodes more than the stream talks. But I will always watch both. Keep up the grind fellas.
News in the livestreams is great, lets the main pod be focused more on analysis, while the lives can be a bit goofier. Plus the lives are recorded for viewing so even if you miss em you can still watch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I agree with Issac and Mo about AD but i see where Don is coming from. To put AD in the same tier and chet and wemby is too disrespectful to AD's 2 way dominance and playoff success, but to say he is on the same level as embiid or Jokic is also not fully correct either. They honestly needed to make a tier in between for AD.
I understand both sides of the argument and in that scenario I would also have put AD in S tier but this situation could have been easily been fixed by putting AD as the only A and lowering everybody else a tier or by creating a new SS tier for Embiid and the Joker. Putting AD at the same level as 2 rookies is ridiculous but there are levels to this an he is not there with Jokic an Embiid. You could also argue putting Bam and AD in the same tier.
Bucks just need a good defender that's what their missing,if they found one I think they make a hell of a team,and missing jae crowder probably have impact to for their defense
Sure but at that point, why not either push everyone down and have AD in A tier alone or bump up Jokic and Embiid to idk SS tier lol. AD is just not on their level imo@@yeheheyee9998
Pelicans don’t have a bunch of passers. They had 37 assists against the warriors two nights ago. If you actually watch pelicans games you can see the chemistry is there and they clicking. Keep sleeping on the pels.
around I'm guessing the 29 min mark Isaac says all those shooters weren't known to be good shooters Yuta Watanabe I think shot like 46% from 3 I think last year Isaac was saying wow about KD's 47.4% from 3 (which yes is impressive) ok, I looked up what Yuta shot last year, 44.4% from 3 in 58 games, playing 16 mpg
You’re first TikTok gave me an idea for one that could be funny. Draft a team of retired football players NOW. Like Michael Jordan at 60, Tim Duncan in his late 40s etc
I swear these guys haven't looked at a pelicans game this whole year and a bit of last cause over our recent stretch we've blown out like 5 teams by 20 and only lost by 10 at most
AD belongs in A I agree with Don. I understand the “tiers within tiers” thing but I feel he’s the top of A. Maybe move Chet wemby and company down a tier but AD is not S. My man’s was real talk HEATED 😂
Don having to pick between the clippers and KAT was his worst nightmare. His brain was short circuiting figuring out how make them both lose😭😭😭😭
no replies?
Clippers are fire this season but im a kat food lover
Don getting outvoted on everything in the tier list culminating into him snapping on Anthony Davis was actually so hilarious
The Anthony Davis tier list debate might be one of the funniest segments in TD3 so far 🤣
Mo was just sitting back and enjoying the argument
AD 100% does not belong in S I feel for Donovan
Well, he kinda has a unfair vendetta against AD, c'mon give the man his flowers@@calvinkartono
Generational AD hate
Don was right. AD should’ve been top of A tier not S tho
Mo’s “I know men” run was insane. 2011 dirk level shit 😭😭😭
The AD debate was truly elite. Felt like this podcast was ripping at the seams.
Don was right,ad is not carrying the lakers to the finals,not after that 7 game streak loss in a row,embiid and jokic are outright carrying,ad is just not that guy
@@guillermogutierrez47facts. The past 3 MVPs and a guy who is FINALLY having the season we’ve been wanting him to have but some nights ain’t even as good as LeBron, shouldn’t be a debate
@@guillermogutierrez47 like Embid has carried a team to the Finals. Lmao
Donovan had a special performance this episode
He's the goat honestly haha
S L E E P D E P R I V E D D O N O V A N is literally him.
Realistically they should have AD in A tier and move everyone else down a tier. The argument really comes down to how far is AD from the others considering you can say hes top 10 or so in the league where as all the other "A" players are closer to 25-40
Yea I agree I don’t think AD belongs in the same tier as Jokic and Embiid but he’s definitely better than the guys in that a tier if there was an a/a+ tier it would have been for AD alone
Jokic and Embidd are number 1s, AD is a number 2
The gap between AD and Bam is bigger than the gap between AD and Embiid 🤷🏾♂️
It’s kinda like Kawhi. He’s not gonna win an MVP, and mostly seen as a “1b” guy.
Should’ve had an S++ Tier or smth. It’s like putting MJ in “just” S-Tier even tho by tier list standards it’s not wrong.
They did not wanna put AD on same tier as Gobert
Blankey Mode Don!!!
Looking like a Roman emperor
Should’ve just put AD at A tier and shifted everyone else one tier
Don is 100% right, AD is not on Jokic or Embiids level
But he is not in the same level as Bam and the rookies, he can be in S tier without being at the same level of the other two because he is top 3 centers in the league
@@diegoavalos2426exactly they shouldnt put bunch of rookies in the A tier
They just had to bump all the A tiers except for bam down to B then move the Bs to C and brook in D. Then have AD and Bam in A
None of the guys on A tier are on his level either. He's closer to S. Either give him S or make an A+ tier for him.
But he's closer to the S-tier guys than the A-tier guys. You can be a S-tier player without being on the level of Jokic and Embiid. He's definitely 3rd in that tier.
AD in A tier is the right place to put him. I think all the tiers should've moved down a tier.
That AD debate had me dying
Can you all do a out of position draft where the picks can’t be in their primary or secondary positions.
Ooo YES
@@thedeep3podyou guys should do a draft or tier list of the best TD3 moments
@@thedeep3poddo a draft of only players who were at one point the second best on their team (dwyane wade, oscar robertson, Tony parker, scottie pippen, kevin durant, etc etc
Lebron at PG #1 draft pick
@@thedeep3pod this one may be basic but only players that weren’t first round pick ex jokic and Khris Middleton who were second round picks and guys who were undrafted Ben Wallace or FVV
I’m on your side Don, AD’s an A tier!
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i feel like they were gaslighting him or something lol isaac seem like the type of guy who purposely tries to make you angry then laughs at you for being angry
@@nomorepartiezzbut why shouldnt put players like Chet and Wemby in W and hasnt done a thing...AD way above them
@@nomorepartiezz isaac gives the vibes like he doesn´t have many friends because of the reason you just said
@@nomorepartiezzdo you know what the word gaslighting means? they clearly just both think theyre right and are stubborn about it lol. stop overanalyzing shit, literally just friends having an argument. take a break from the internet man
Also, Don trying to hold it in at the 1:09:33 mark killed me. Even as GSW fan, gotta admit it was pretty funny 🥲
I agree with Don TBH, there is a massive difference between Embiid and Jokic, and then AD. I'd still put AD in S cause I think he's solidly above Bam, but AD is a 2nd option on a mid Lakers team, whereas the top two are the 1st options on really good squads. Them acting like Don is crazy for his take is wild though, that debate whilst funny to watch, was annoying to see, cause Don didn't deserve that amount of shit for a decent if not good take.
I enjoy the streams, you guys have a fun and enjoyable discourse on both the pods and streams but I do enjoy the specific reaction to recent news on the livestreams where the pods educate me a little more about basketball. Keep pushing it.
I think the problem with the AD debate isn’t that he isn’t S-tier (which I think is true) but rather that Chet and Wemby aren’t A-tier. Isaac kept resorting to the “You’re really gonna put AD in a tier with two rookies!?” When, really, those rookies didn’t belong in that tier to begin with.
Wemby and Chet are playing really well, at like a fringe all-star level, but if they were in their 6th season playing at this level, people wouldn’t be as enamored with them as they are now.
That tier list was a hilarious disaster. They set the stage by putting the rookies too high and it was worth it for how it ended
Today's tier list and 50th episode's Wilt Chamberlain rant are the most clinical performances Don has ever put in the history of TD3!!!
#justicefordonavan #td3
Damn I didn’t know that Norman Powell had a podcast
Let the man be comfortable
The Tiger blanket is iconic, it will have you slumped in seconds 🤣🤣🤣
I like the news related content in the livestream. And the main episodes should stay the same
Issac was right about AD not being on the same tier as everyone in A, but Don was right about him not being at the same tier as Embiid and Jokic. Jokic and Embiid are clear top 3 players in the league and they have 100% seperated themselves from AD with being top 2 in MVP voting for the last 3 years.
I need a compilation of Don getting heated 😂😂
Anthony Davis in S tier is crazy.
i think ranking AD just comes as to how much value he brings cause hes a player having an S-tier year and judging by whos in A-tier, AD should be ranked S-tier because players in A-tier are just no where near ADs level of talent. but when you have jokic and embiid in S-tier, it changes the narrative because they are both once in a generational players and AD is just not on the same level which is why you would want him in A-tier. realistically though, id still put AD in S-tier because hes far better then those in A-tier but is still worse than those in S-tier but the gap between the two imo shows that AD is more of an S-tier caliber player than an A-tier caliber player
Exactly they put rookies in A-teir yet wanna SAY AD in same category
I love the livestreams especially for news and fan interactions. I dont always participate because the timing is not good for me to join live but i always watch to see the nba news ive missed and the atrocious takes of some of my fellow crayon eaters.
Another pod where Don stays the most realistic in these tier lists I swear. I feel like his being real and strict and consistent gets confused with hating. He was right with AD and he was right with Rudy!! Only reason Isaac put AD on S tier was that Lakers fan in him. The debate was fun to watch but its sad seeing my guy get out voted every time
1:40:55 "this is cinema" LMFAOO
Don was so passionate during that center tier list 😂 that man needed a nap he was cranky
A tier list of Deep3 moments/memes would be hella hype🔥
They were very wrong about the Milwaukee bucks not having depth they got portis,pat connaughton,and two promising young players in beauchamp and Andre Jackson jr.
Hello fragments how are you doing?
Beautiful blanket Donovan
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I like the ratio difference it gives me alot to look forward to on Mondays btw love the pod been watching since 1987😂
Huh??
The lives are SO GOOD please keep doing it!
Bro I can’t wait for the the tik Tok to come out about the AD debate, that’s too funny bro, Don is heated bro, I’ve never seen him this heated
AD cant be in the same tier as the guy that dropped 30pt triple double on his head and made him look like a kid in the playoffs
Don is so right tho, Davis is nowhere near the offensive producer Jokic and Embid are. Defense can't be enough to put you in S Tier when you struggle to score double digits in points half the time. That means you don't have as much impact on your team as those 2, meaning I wouldn't put them anywhere near the same tier. Top of A is correct.
Thank bc if this was all time, Ben Wallace wouldn't be in S tier
I dont blame Don for being mad. A.D has not been playing to the standard everyone puts him at. He's not an Embiid or Jokic caliber, he can be but he doesn't do it. LeBron literally telling you this your team and you can't take over and be the main guy. Now a 39 yr old is carrying you.🤦🏿♂️ This is coming from a Lakers fan btw.
I love the live streams, would just love to see them on a day like Wednesday instead. I’ve been rewatching the live streams, and the good vibes and funny comments make them feel like an actual episode and not an afterthought. Good work all around!
I actually got the Bradley Beal one with the eyes 🤣
I'm normally terrible at those games. Other than CP3 and KP I missed all the others
The AD argument is iconic
Mo was capping out of his mind about the centers till it got so serious I was dying 😭😭😭
Don looks like he’s gonna be assassinated for control of Rome
Don had a DOPY game today with how defensive he got💀🔥
I love the lives being more news and reaction based and the pod being more general content
Taking Jeff Green and James Johnson over Gallo is insane
This episode was generational. We got the mo knowing men bit, TikTok’s were on point, the ad argument…. It’s bueatiful
I would love to see you guys discuss if you think any of the teams you make in the draft would make a certain goal you set prior (for this one it might be like making playoffs, for the all time one it could have been a three-peat , etc etc)
the best nba pod in the world, please continue doing this, we crayon eaters are enjoying!
Love the livestreams!! Defo gotta keep doing them the chat interaction is great
its clear to tell these boys put in so much effort into this show. especially isaac
Donovan is the goat crayon eater for that Ad segment
Couldnt agree more with him
1:38:22 - 1:44:57 This is by far the most heated Don has gotten on a tier list😂. Also Mo needs to get on donovans side and stop always picking the white man over him😅
Wow 😂😂😂😂
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i think the live atreams are grea, i like the idea, and i thjink making the part where you review hot takes sort of like tiktok time on the main pod would be a good idea
I am a Lakers fan and I agree with Don AD should be in A. Though he is a good defender and a rebounder but his offense is inconsistent both in the regular season and in the playoffs.
If Don didn’t have that blanket, the aneurysm was gonna strike. 😂
Needs to swing by all these snowstorm locations to chop up all this ice and lay down some salt.
Thank you Isaac for silencing Donnavan in the knicks having a chance at the chip
the AD argument is all-timer material
I’m with don, AD is in A-tier and push everyone down a tier. U can’t tell me AD is on the same level as Jokic and Embiid in the past 3 years.
I won't lie but Donovan has a point with that AD debate. He is not on the same level as Embiid and Nikola.
It's insane how much I agree with Don whenever he's going against the others lmao
I am not surprised Don is like a old man😂
I do enjoy both the livestreams and the episodes. I like the talking points you guys have on the episodes more than the stream talks. But I will always watch both. Keep up the grind fellas.
Don had the Goat rant omg
Ngl I’d have to agree with Don. Id say if there was a tier between S and A like an A+ tier I’d put AD in there
News in the livestreams is great, lets the main pod be focused more on analysis, while the lives can be a bit goofier. Plus the lives are recorded for viewing so even if you miss em you can still watch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sad that Lowry wasn’t picked in the old man draft ☹️
Exactly he ancient
When u get the deep 3 notif😫
Why these guys always have such funny intros in the episodes 😂😂😂
the anthony davis debate is fucking hysterical 😭😭😭 ad is fr about to ruin their friendship LOOOOL
At 1:40 i enjoyed my life so much behause of the discussion, they all had. Also i am for top A Tier for Anthony Davis.😂😂😂
Ps.: I am obviously on Donovan‘s side😂❤
Donovan bringing up playoff talk when talking embiid and AD is nuts.
I think you guys should do a normal podcast on live but incorporate the chat
“Aaron Gordon locking you up in the Conference Finals” Embiid never even made a Conference Finals!
i do feel dons pain i feel like him whenever i lose minor arguments 😭
Donovan can't stop being based istg
you guys r my fav b pod ever. keep it up.
I agree with Issac and Mo about AD but i see where Don is coming from. To put AD in the same tier and chet and wemby is too disrespectful to AD's 2 way dominance and playoff success, but to say he is on the same level as embiid or Jokic is also not fully correct either. They honestly needed to make a tier in between for AD.
Damn, From now on I’m a firmly Don supporter 100% my guy knows ball
I understand both sides of the argument and in that scenario I would also have put AD in S tier but this situation could have been easily been fixed by putting AD as the only A and lowering everybody else a tier or by creating a new SS tier for Embiid and the Joker. Putting AD at the same level as 2 rookies is ridiculous but there are levels to this an he is not there with Jokic an Embiid. You could also argue putting Bam and AD in the same tier.
You big bastards uploaded my God I'm in the middle of a snowstorm but my heart be beating fire ❤
Bucks just need a good defender that's what their missing,if they found one I think they make a hell of a team,and missing jae crowder probably have impact to for their defense
Once Jae comes back I feel like they should be in a better position
The fact that they didnt just add an SS tier, slide Joker and Embiid up, and have AD just be an S was baffling lmao
Anyone else completely side with Don on the Centers Tier List about AD? I'm sorry but imo, AD just simply isn't on the same tier as Jokic and Embiid
So he’s on the same level as gobert? 😂 he’s closer to S then A
Sure but at that point, why not either push everyone down and have AD in A tier alone or bump up Jokic and Embiid to idk SS tier lol. AD is just not on their level imo@@yeheheyee9998
Tired Donovan is peak argument content
AD segment, has been the best thing I've heard this year 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pelicans don’t have a bunch of passers. They had 37 assists against the warriors two nights ago. If you actually watch pelicans games you can see the chemistry is there and they clicking. Keep sleeping on the pels.
nah the AD debate is actually crazy bro, Don did not have to get that heated
around I'm guessing the 29 min mark Isaac says all those shooters weren't known to be good shooters
Yuta Watanabe I think shot like 46% from 3 I think last year
Isaac was saying wow about KD's 47.4% from 3 (which yes is impressive)
ok, I looked up what Yuta shot last year, 44.4% from 3 in 58 games, playing 16 mpg
whole time don was right about ad, you guys do this everytime Lol
You’re first TikTok gave me an idea for one that could be funny. Draft a team of retired football players NOW. Like Michael Jordan at 60, Tim Duncan in his late 40s etc
Coming back home from college on the bus watching this every Friday is a vibe
Im only like 15 minute appreciate Polsih hammer being appreciated 🇵🇱 also ypur streams and pods big w
I swear these guys haven't looked at a pelicans game this whole year and a bit of last cause over our recent stretch we've blown out like 5 teams by 20 and only lost by 10 at most
For guessing the eyes of the players I got them all except herbert jones and idk how u got that tbh😂😂😂
the cozy episode. fire.
AD belongs in A I agree with Don. I understand the “tiers within tiers” thing but I feel he’s the top of A. Maybe move Chet wemby and company down a tier but AD is not S. My man’s was real talk HEATED 😂
Don melting down about AD was peak lmao 😂😂😂