The Challenges and the Future of the Christian Tradition, Brian McLaren
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Brian McLaren describes his journey from Bible based Fundamentalist Christianity to a spirituality that allows questioning of entrenched beliefs, synthesizing Religion, Science and the Arts. In this interview he discuses questions such as: In letting go of entrenched beliefs, we might encounter resistance and fear, how to you guide people in this process?; If the Church is going to survive, what form is it going to take?; What can a religious leader do to support this transition period for the Church? and What is the front burner question for the people in the Christian tradition today?
Brian D. McLaren (born 1956) is a prominent Christian pastor, author, activist and speaker and leading figure in the emerging church movement. McLaren is also associated with postmodern Christianity and progressive Christianity and is a major figure in post-evangelical thought. He has often been named one of the most influential Christian leaders in America and was recognized byTime Magazine as one of the 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America in 2005.[10] McLaren was also the founding pastor of Cedar Ridge Community Church in Spencerville, Maryland, which he left in 2006 to pursue writing and speaking full-time.
What a great, humble guy. Respect!
Really enjoyed what was said in this brief interview. Looking forward to more dialogue in the future.
These were great questions and his responses were really helpful to provoke some much needed thinking for me :) stoked I came across the vid! Thanks alot for posting
Keep sharing!!!
how do you handle the clerical errors in the bible?
I believe the challenge of Christianity today is absolute relativism.
It´s a good point you make. Except that Jesus´ no 2 loving Commandment for Moses and God, "Love thy neighbor as thyself" is not a materialistic list of prohibitive Commandments like Moses´ Top 10. Those didn´t actually work, it needs to be said. That´s a good reason why WL Craig´s moral argument for God is better made through evil than "objective morality." Love, meanwhile, is the basis of good and knowing evil, all of which requires learning in the complex world made possible by Jesus´ very legacy of loving integrity. I´d say that secular and progressive Christian moral relativism is an important process of learning the meaning of what we call in ecological economics, "bio-physical and ethico-social limits." FD Roosevelt´s vision and legacy of UN human rights and now sustainability is an amazing context that I´ve been thinking about a lot.
A shake-up is necessary because of basic problems of church authorities, the intoxication of freedom, power, and pleasure in business profiteering that promotes its corporate-consumer culture and "science" that has shifted its name entirely from its base in natural philosophy and has many intoxicated by scientific materialism. It is, in fact, business profiteering that has been funding the prominent rise of new church authorities that oppose social responsibility in business.
The short answer objective is getting clear about Jesus´ legacy in University-based society and getting clear about his loving integrity. Business profiteers supporting doctrine against eco-social responsibility can then be exposed more clearly. The "godless communists" was one convergence of propaganda that feeds now the "family values" and "American business know-how led by the rich" doctrines of the religious right.
Christian progressives can benefit perhaps from insights like the scholarly rediscovery of "the healing power of love (lovingkindness)," and the value of scholarly recordkeeping of spiritual-religious healing with medical attestation of medically impossible healing. C Keener´s 2011 book made a big contribution there.
Thus, I´d say the big challenge is spiritual modernization, and getting passed church authority impulses to judge instead of learn how to apply the spirit of Jesus´ loving integrity and emphasizing the learning processes. Jesus taught "go and learn" in Matt 9:13, and a few other places most clearly. Combining the ideas of learning the meaning of loving integrity is what applies, if we understand Western society as Jesus´ legacy above all, not just Judeo-Christian, Greco-Roman, and now UN pluralist. It is all based on the pivotal initiatives of Jesus´ legacy of loving integrity. As in Matt 7:21, the question is, "What is the will of Jesus´ Father in Heaven"? It isn´t the mere mouthing of the inerrancy of the Bible, or using the Bible as a hammer. Jesus came to save, not condemn or judge. However, people can learn about the cause and effect, choice and consequence flows that Jesus´ legacy of University-based modern philosophical knowledge has made possible. Fragmented, overspecialized views have been missing that continuity and interconnection that is already there. Valuing spiritual-religious experience is key, meditation and prayer, and comparative religious studies, no less. Good luck and God bless, in Jesus´ name, the Buddha, Pantanjali, Theresa d´Avila, and Anthony of the Desert.
Sounds like an advocation for ultra sedation to me
Three statements:
1- Nonduality is bankrupt because whether or not it is true is a duality in itself.
2- Brian McLaren should refrain from calling himself a Christian altogether.
3- Say what you want, but if Jesus was actually risen from the dead, it is the single greatest event in human history.
Wow. :( Brian McLaren
Is entitled to be a Christian if that's who he indentifies as.
System of beliefs? Loving Way of Life? It is NOT one or the other, but both. Clearly Christians are to love as Jesus loved. And Christians are to know what they believe and why. So please do not set forth a false dilemma in order to cast off the historic teachings of the Christian Faith, and supplant them with a system of beliefs that are nothing more than a political ideology. McLaren is not choosing a "Loving Way of Life" over having a "System of beliefs". He is replacing the historic beliefs of the Christian Faith with his own politically correct "system of beliefs". I pray that no one falls prey to his deception.
You´ve got a few issues to resolve, considering you have to follow Jesus´ legacy all the way over 2000 years, or else you´re just using things like the internet without quite getting it. McLaren here is expressing a loving understanding that has grappled with apparent literalists and anti-modernists like yourself. Jesus taught clearly, "go and learn..." Matt 9:13 and Paul, "test all things and hold onto what is good." Jesus´ legacy of loving integrity is the special sauce that leads up to University-based society. Your judgmentalism betrays the spirit of Jesus´ Commandments, which are not like Moses´ top 10, but to fulfill them, with "Love thy neighbor as thyself" and bridging that to "Love thy enemy," which takes learning, not judging.
Your focus is to be on learning to do good deeds to honor God through Jesus, to let your light shine. Not judging others like those Jesus criticizes in the Seven Woes.
Did God say that in the day you eat of the fruit of the tree you will surely die ? The serpent said you will not surely die but you will be like God knowing good and evil.
That's where you are Mr. Mclaren . You took the bait you have eaten the fruit of the evil one. Ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. God is not systems of gnosticism. Nothing new under the sun .
as a reformed Christian, I find it very difficult to see any good in this cult, it has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus real gospel of the kingdom, it created a deity, and declared the man in the sky with the beard, delights in human blood sacrifice, Jesus and the church are not the same philosophy at all! sorry full stop not working
So, you value Jesus. Meanwhile, that is very much where Brian McLaren is coming from. Except, you need to be able to translate Jesus into modern terms. If you don´t understand why FD Roosevelt´s vision of the UN and human rights is based on his Social Gospel influences and Christian service values, then you´re going to have a few conflicts with reality. This reality is God´s reality, first of all. Jesus, His son, has given us a powerful legacy of loving integrity that has gone through modernization, but has been fraught with the problems of hypocrisy and distortion.
Gosh, what a whole lot of nothing was said here.
The Truth hard is it may be will actually and truly set you free from all this nonsense.
Brian McLaren, you are a false teacher. Try ministering to your son who is living in sin and rebellion.