STOLEN Fusion Strike Ultra Rare Cards: The Story! 📚
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- In this video on pokemon card investing, I go over the drama of the stolen fusion strike alternate arts and ultra rares. This brings about a few burning questions for the TCG!
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other side of coin... once all 100/100 serial cards have been found, the sealed box it's in becomes worth way less.
Actually way more, look at examples from the past
You would never, ever have a scenario in which all 100 serialized cards would definitively be found.
There would always be at least a small to mid percentage that would be unaccounted for from unopened product and people that open and do not put up for sale or report that they have them.
Mainly that happens with the 1/1 hunt
If you bought 100 cases, opened one and hit the charizard 1/1, it would be better not to sale it(unless there is a crazy bounty prize), it would keep the box prices stable
The amount that keep sealed these days, and people not disclosing, it would be so hard to know hey!
Please no numbered Pokemon Cards. That’s manufactured scarcity. Completely undermines the legitimate reasons for printing to demand. Heads even further down the gambling route to hit that jackpot. Currently, the jackpots are determined by the consumer as a collective, not what Pokemon says it should be.
I really like your argument there mate, well said!
A while ago I mentioned in one of your other videos that Pokemon should randomly place 1000 gold code cards inside booster packs of a particular set and if you pull it they’ll send you a limited edition super rare card presented in a official certified acrylic holder with each super rare card individually numbered from 1 to 1000.
Imagine if you were extremely lucky and pulled two or three of them😅
It's like our local footy cards, you can pull a premiership predictor card and if that team wins you get a random signed player exclusive card. It adds to the chase of it!
I don’t think they will serialize, it might hinder their reprint opportunity. They also won’t ever disclose pull odds unless they are regulated to do so for the good of the consumers.
I tend to agree with you there. And why fix a formula that's not broken!
quality content and to the point as always, keep up the good work big bro!
Thanks legend 👌
Just from buying c22 tins for the evolving skies I’ve pulled the Espeon gengar and rainbow mew .
Wow, good work!
Yes Pokémon should disclose pull rates. Not sure why they don’t.
Luckily we have guys like Danny Phantump helping us with that 😅
I have also been thinking about numbered cards recently! Magic has recently moved into serialized cards and it has been highly successful for them. I think the Pokemon company may look at this and consider it for the block after S&V or even holiday sets. Imagine pulling a signed and numbered charizard or gengar. It would be the start of a new era.
I can certainly see the pros and cons to it. It adds to the chase that's for sure!
that 1 photo stopped all the timmys from buying into fs
Didn't it 😅
Great video , pull rates disclosure would be nice I don’t know about serializing cards though
Thanks legend!
Hey great video… I also do think that having numbered specific chase cards would be an amazing thing of Pokémon did that but at the same time it would create some pretty inflated prices… but yeah I hope they do… your videos are great. I love watching them. They’re pretty genuine and realistic and easy to relate to…. your content is not loaded with a bunch of fake ass bullshit of people opening cards and overreacting like idiots… keep doing what you’re doing, man. It’s definitely working.
Thanks heaps for the feedback mate, really appreciate it!
I wouldn't go that specific with serialized cards. Maybe like rarity percentage rates, e.g. 50% common, 25% uncommon, 10% Art Rares, etc.
I'm pulling number out of thin air but along those lines of general thinking.
But yes, disclose pull rates odds
It's an I terestign concept nonetheless hey!
I haven't given it more than 5 minutes of thought but my immediate reaction to your question of them numbering cards: I think I would quit collecting. I wonder if others have the same opinion.
That's a fair position mate!
I like the idea of serialized pokemon cards, it would be cool, but I think it would be legitimately dangerous. There were riots over the vangogh pikachu! Could you imagine what would happen if a 1/1 pikachu was printed
It would bring out so much poor behaviour, I agree!
Yes I think so because I bought a box of fushion strike and got nothing I agree I think it did affect it 😀
Pull rates are rough for fusion strike but are similar for chilling and evo skies!
PokeOz type of guy to say “dapper” in 2024 and it becomes mainstream again.
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I think serial numbering cards would cause the product to sell faster. Panini and Fanatics don't do it because it's bad business. However, it would hinder Pokemon's ability to reprint on demand. They'd have to correctly predict how many of a set would sell before they printed. I think including the overall odds is a much more feasible alternative, at least for now, and you're right to talk about it in your video. I think its something Pokemon can do that will make the product more enjoyable because of more transparency.
Definitely 2 sides to it mate and I like what you've presented there! Certainly hinders printing to demand!
If Pokemon announced serialized cards, It would break the internet lol
Wouldn't it 😅
More money if they do. One can only hope
I wish Pokemon would do a really cool gimmick now and again.
Like imagine if they released a set and said “We put 20 code cards in random packs that can include prizes ranging from a booster box to a grand prize paid trip down to Pokemon in Japan”.
Like a golden ticket from Willy Wonka ya know?
Completely agree, it would be cool as!
Nice video. I think it would hinder. If you saw on the pack as a kid SIR 1:700 that would probably have discouraged you from getting packs and actually trying to chase cards. Since as. When we were little the top rarity was 1:3
That’s why near mint base set gyrados will fetch you a smooth 15 bucks in 2024
Luckily kids still love the full art Vs and rainbows etc 👌
Not sure if they need to have tracking numbers on the cards but they for sure need to step up their security measures 😂
Definitely man 😅
I think its more likely Pokemon will decrease the pull rates for SIR more over time. Temporal forces pull rates are a lot harder than previous sets, and this trend will probably continue. I dont think they will go down the numbered route anytime soon.
Pokemon will continue doing what they know has worked for them for the past 20 years.
Yeah and twilight seems as difficult as any alt art. This will help the value of them for sure!
Having also collected baseball and basketball cards as a kid, I enjoyed knowing the official pull rates, and I would like to see those published on the Pokemon packs, too. As for serialized cards, I'm more hesitant given the fact that this game is meant to be played. What happens if there is a mega-good card that dominates the TCG, but only 5 people in the world can have it?!? I don't like that.
That's a really good point!
I honestly don't think serialisation would be a good thing. Magic the gathering have started doing it but they have put them in a separate collectors box which they then charge hundreds of dollars for 12 packs and theoretically the print run of those is one and done. Can you imagine a world where Pokémon boxes come out with just a single print run and then either don't get reprinted or do but without serialised cards. It will be back to covid times of people fighting in supermarkets to get Pokémon packs.
It would definitely bring the fights back for sure!
This incident will continue to hurt fusion strike and people will put their money in other sets
Why would you put your money elsewhere? This is going to be a RARE set because of this.
so u have none
I think Fusion will do just fine long term 👌
@@kingslayya6876 nah dont want crap. ive got the OG vintage much better :P
I'd say no, advertising pull rates is likely not a good idea for pokemon. As a sports collector, I bought a few cases of upper deck sp authentic 12-13 basetball. They advertised that every case (12 boxes) would contain a Michael jordan OR Lebron james auto. When I opened a case and didn't get either, I complained to upper deck, who did end up compensating me, but I knew that those advertised odds were not 100%. If that case were opened on a popular live break website, and many people saw that it wouldn't be a good look for UD. Especially now, that particular set is near impossible to find a sealed case of, worth roughly 16-20k USD if you can find one.
Some good points there mate!
I don't think we should know. It sort of links it to gambling IMO. And then restricts reprints. I would like to see them once per season do a set that has numbered cards. That Magic LOTR hunt for the 1/1 made the set go crazyyyyyyy
Yeah how crazy was that. And how cool is it that it ended up with Post Malone!
100 % would love numbered cards i think every collecter would love that sealed and imagine if you got one would love that as i would definitly buy more sealed product
There's definitely pros and cons to it!
The kind of guy who makes Dickie Bird lose count.
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You’d put Danny Phantump out of a job
Hahaha the legend 😅
Maybe create a new side product variant with a collector's chase theme that contains serialized #s and give it a test run without formally changing a whole set.
I can just imagine the scalping 😅
@@pokeoz91 Probably lol, but at least restricted to that product
They kind of do this already with the guaranteed 1 secret rare/box in modern Japanese. SV boxes also guarantee a certain number of art rares (I think 3).
It does enhance the pack opening experience, but only up until you pull the secret. If you're purely chasing value, most art rares, shinies, or equivalent rarity can be bought 2 or 3 bucks in bulk, so it's not really worth your while to continue pack opening (unless you really want to and don't care about card value). When you open a Japanese box, you will almost never be disappointed.
The mystery around English box opening makes the actual card chase more exciting, but can also be quite fruitless and frustrating.
Also, how stupid do you have to be to do this massive trade in? You ALMOST got away with stealing $100,000's in cards and could have slowly bled them out. Imagine auctioning a few each week and collecting free money for next 5 years...
Oh mate, so stupid! And I agree with the Japanese side. Like opening 151 is fun waiting to see which masterball you get.
I’m going to buy 2 booster boxes to open with my brother. Which do you think are the funnest?
If cost is important scarlet and violet would be better. Maybe paldea and temporal forces would be fun!
@@pokeoz91 thanks 🙏🏻
I think pokemon company wants to avoid disclosing hit rates/odds to not be associated with gambling. Remember it's still a children's product despite adults being heavily involved in collecting. For sports cards they do disclose the hit rate odds, and the fact that they do have 1/1 cards, which are heavily valued, these box prices do reflect that. Some sports card boxes go for over 1k for just a few cards. Pokemon isn't about that
That's a valid point mate 👌
This is why I’ve been buying up everything Fusion strike. You’d be silly not to
It'll do great long term!
This story makes me wonder if it’s happened with other sets and were these stolen cards destroyed? I still believe in Fusion Strike long term and have a small position due to Mew being a fan favorite
Fusion strike will be a great long term hold!
One.. for one... the real question here is.. Have people stolen from PK printing company before?
Does it need serialized cards? ... No theyve made this far without them. Would help get an idea on print run? It could...
Would I like to see them? Maybe, on a few cards, it would REALLY increase some value. They could try a stamp style instead like if you get a Pikachu with a "stamp" gold.. Its roughly out of..... 100,000 cards (because lets behonest Pokemon is printing WAY more than sports) /199,. /299....Yeah thats WAY TOO Small for their numbers lol
A stamp would also be a cool idea! 👌
I truly believe if Pokemon decides to create serialized cards it would mean that Pokemon as a company is in a bad place and I truly hope it never happens because I think that Pokemon should be for all. Everyone should have an equal opportunity to collect these cards.
I tend to agree with you there mate!
Numbering pokemon cars would suck! Personally think pokemon should stay as they are not copy sports cards!
I tend to agree!
Just don’t touch the singles in that set. You have other choices that are not touched (at this point in time) so it makes zero sense to go near this tainted set. I still think S&V is the go, you can get more bulk and the set looks fun.
S&V has been great so far!
Tbh ive never liked TPC not disclosing odds the same way as i believe they should be required to label what booster packs come within each products. Its super misleading at best and scammy at worst but people will overlook that fact because its well Pokemon.
I mean there's probably method to the madness, that lottery affect but I agree!
Looking at the picture just hurts. The cards taken out, and ruined fusion strike pull rates. I don’t know how pokemon actually fixed this. I could be wrong. Also the quality of the cards would have been ruined.
Im under the assumption it was in the testing phase and these cards were never going to go into retail products.
@@pokeoz91 that will make it hurt less lol.
Ye!!
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The thieves that brought all the cards at one to sell are soooo d…u..m…b, like why would you do that, obviously going to raise a red flag? lol
I know right! 😅
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Legend!
I got a couple of fusion bb, not concerned. Not opening them so who cares.
with you on that, i think it’s too good of a set for something like this to hurt it
It'll be great long term!
Yeah that was bs. Um I got my alt mew though
Nice bro 👌
this is why i dont invest in sealed fusion.
And that’s exactly why I’m investing in it. Yall are scared for no reason
It'll be real solid long term!
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Personally I think serialized cards is a bad idea
I can definitely see both sides to the argument!
41 seconds gang
60 seconds gang
On it mate!
Numbered cards would make it a real chase / holy grail and more tough. It would be more nice to I dunno find a golden inner stamp of the booster pack which you can redeem to win a signed Charizard, Gengar, Mew and so on. Like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Buy stuff, rip it and find a winning voucher for THE chase card of the set involved. Which you can redeem at the Pokemon website and they will ship it you.
And in regards of informing the customer about the pull rate. I don't think it matters much. People will chase the best bang for buck and just buy singles. Once it is known product X got better chances than product Y that product X becomes the next chase. Why bother with mini tins or three pack blisters when single sleeved booster gets you there you know. It will destroy Pokemon own diverse product range. No one is gonna buy a UPC when an ETB yields more result. Since it is unknown right now people either buy singles only or buy whatever is most cheap pack ratio wise.
You've presented some good points there man!