10 Barbell Overhead Press Mistakes and How to Fix Them

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  • @WolfCoaching
    @WolfCoaching Před 3 lety +300

    0:12 Opening remarks
    0:44 Mistake #1 - Thinking the Standing OHP is a must-do
    2:03 Mistake #2 - Not moving the head back
    3:02 Mistake #3 - Not pushing the head through
    4:06 Mistake #4 - Chest collapse and barbell drift
    5:18 Mistake #5 - Uncontrolled descent
    6:10 Mistake #6 - Not doing a full and/or standardized ROM
    7:06 Mistake #7 - Body english
    8:50 Mistake #8 - Technical Absolutism
    9:56 Mistake #9 - Grip width dogma
    11:07 Mistake #10 - Going too light
    12:04 Concluding remarks

    • @russianbeginner643
      @russianbeginner643 Před 3 lety +10

      One day ago???? Madness

    • @gunshow86de
      @gunshow86de Před 3 lety +16

      12:04 Dr Mike shows us his box

    • @TheNeverFirst
      @TheNeverFirst Před 3 lety

      My man! Thaks

    • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
      @Croissantrophy.meme.channel Před 3 lety

      @@gunshow86de what was that? xD

    • @sumedhwaryam4555
      @sumedhwaryam4555 Před 3 lety

      @fire trails without weight on the bar it doesnt really feel normal so it might just be because of that. When you're lifting during working sets you usually lean a little bit back bringing your elbows out forward. Though it might just be camera angle too.

  • @skmalladi
    @skmalladi Před rokem +20

    6:51 "You're not here for easy, you're here for proper" Golden words to press by!

  • @Sharkyktc001
    @Sharkyktc001 Před 3 lety +273

    The biggest mistake I make with OHP is not having a box-coloured box.

  • @UNGETABLE7
    @UNGETABLE7 Před 3 lety +132

    Bosu ball overhead squats next 💪

    • @jonathantorhjelm1902
      @jonathantorhjelm1902 Před 3 lety +4

      If your doing squats with weight on a bosu ball the whole exercise is a mistake. Very dangerous :)

    • @UNGETABLE7
      @UNGETABLE7 Před 3 lety +22

      Jonathan Torhjelm Dude i was joking.. 😂

    • @jonathantorhjelm1902
      @jonathantorhjelm1902 Před 3 lety +3

      @@UNGETABLE7 ooooh lol I missed that 😂🤣 funny

    • @AVB15
      @AVB15 Před 3 lety +7

      Bosu wall bench press and leg extension at the same time

    • @vignneshnaidu
      @vignneshnaidu Před 2 lety +1

      My brain just restarted after reading that 😂

  • @Beerai
    @Beerai Před 3 lety +44

    That is a great box...
    I'd love to see a seated barbell OHP video!

  • @LucidStrike
    @LucidStrike Před 3 lety +54

    "You did some weight." lmao.

  • @kanis999
    @kanis999 Před 3 lety +120

    Looking forward to barbell row hopefully. Based on progress I have to be doing something wrong.

    • @timc8200
      @timc8200 Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed! I feel like barbell rows look deceptively easy and I want a video like this to help me out

    • @BOSSDONMAN
      @BOSSDONMAN Před 3 lety

      I haven’t fucked with barbell rows in months, but I’m interested to restart potentially. I like seated cable row and one-arm bench dumbbell rows more.

    • @kanis999
      @kanis999 Před 3 lety +2

      @@BOSSDONMAN Yeah, seated cable would be good too. Barbell row seems most complex though because of the core stabilization elements. I feel like I'm wasting all my energy on that and not enough on upper back.

    • @MonkeyKong38
      @MonkeyKong38 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah my low back is waiting too

    • @rickblair5076
      @rickblair5076 Před 3 lety +4

      I stopped trying to barbell row over a year ago, couldn't engage my lats and was pulling from all arms. I moved on to other exercises that work for me and got more progress because of it.

  • @andrepoli9775
    @andrepoli9775 Před 3 lety +28

    i would love to see one video on the good morning

    • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
      @Croissantrophy.meme.channel Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/Ka6GhzIfh-c/video.html
      Done

    • @l33tsh33p
      @l33tsh33p Před 3 lety +1

      He must check the comments or something; thanks Doc! czcams.com/video/y_o_GeEClWs/video.html

    • @andrepoli9775
      @andrepoli9775 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Croissantrophy.meme.channel Sorry I don't speak "wrong".

  • @curtisc7630
    @curtisc7630 Před 3 lety +2

    these are absolutely excellent. thanks Dr. Mike.

  • @AllClouded
    @AllClouded Před 3 lety +1

    I love every video the doc puts out. Definitely my favourite tuber

  • @Habatus
    @Habatus Před 3 lety +30

    Good stuff. I might add some pointers though considering the lower body.
    -Keep feet about shoulder width wide and parallel (no split jerk stuff)
    -Squeeze glutes and quads (to keep from push pressing and to stabilize pelvis)
    -Try to achieve the the lean back from the thoracic spine instead of the lumbar spine (upper back instead of lower)

    • @Morpheah
      @Morpheah Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah, especially in unilateral dumbbell press, I find that squeezing the glutes is almost necessary for pelvic stability and it also aligns the lumbar spine, leaving me free to focus solely on contracting the shoulder

    • @gracefool
      @gracefool Před 3 lety +3

      Those last two are possibly the most important OHP tips of all!

    • @jessicalloyd2330
      @jessicalloyd2330 Před rokem

      Solid bro, thanks!

    • @gucciak-4740
      @gucciak-4740 Před rokem

      Yes, squeezing the glutes especially is must. If you forget this step, people tend to start bending back at the lower back in order to turn it more into some type of standing chest press lol. Squeeze those buns and brace you core properly

  • @geomod6850
    @geomod6850 Před 3 měsíci

    Sincerely, thank you. This is such good advice. I performed this exercise this morning and needed some tips. Much appreciated.

  • @Badabinger
    @Badabinger Před 3 lety +8

    "You're not here for easy, you're here for proper". Need that on a T-shirt ASAP :-)

  • @getfit-netaventura6716

    Thank you Mike. Love these videos!

  • @haydentift2073
    @haydentift2073 Před 3 lety +2

    Perfect timing I’ve been trying to coach my buddy and he was having troubles with the ohp

  • @Ida-ys7sr
    @Ida-ys7sr Před 3 lety +22

    Single leg RDL, please! This series has really helped clean up several of my exercises, thank you.

  • @nicholasmichaelravnikar
    @nicholasmichaelravnikar Před 3 lety +20

    I was really hoping after Dr. Mike asked “How close?” he’d launch into an Iago the Parrot imitation and gesticulate wildly as he said “Closer than last time!!!”

  • @davidjordan2499
    @davidjordan2499 Před 3 lety +1

    That's a great box, thanks Dr. Mike.

  • @stephj1002
    @stephj1002 Před rokem +1

    Super helpful. I'm a noob and I need to concentrate on proper technique. I feel more confortable with these pointers in mind. I actually don't mind right now using lower weight, going slow and feeling + seeing my body doing the technique. And I have done the over exagerated head bobb too lol. Thanks for this!

  • @StephenMarkTurner
    @StephenMarkTurner Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks as always!

  • @JakeAndrewsMusic
    @JakeAndrewsMusic Před rokem +2

    Why has no one commented on the strict 275 x 8 rep press video you included?! Incredible Dr Mike!

  • @mariot.8218
    @mariot.8218 Před 3 lety

    Great tutorial, thank you!

  • @fgor
    @fgor Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for this video! just in time for me. How about a video for barbell row? Thanks

  • @alexlee7668
    @alexlee7668 Před 3 lety

    S/o to the ideal box! This was a good vid to double check my form thanks!

  • @oneshotf301
    @oneshotf301 Před 3 lety

    I actually did barbell raises today as a rookie and thank you so much later this week I will def try this out

  • @gregorykohler3813
    @gregorykohler3813 Před 3 lety +2

    Dr.Mike, please do a video on seated dumbbell shoulder presses!

  • @OrthoBro3
    @OrthoBro3 Před 3 lety +46

    Dr Mike needs to grow out that beard boy

  • @balasaravanan500
    @balasaravanan500 Před 2 lety

    Thank you sir. Will correct the mistakes

  • @omegads3862
    @omegads3862 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for this video sir.

  • @tbnaeem93
    @tbnaeem93 Před 3 lety +4

    What are some things to keep in mind for preventing neck pain? I tend to tweak my neck/traps quite often when shoulder pressing

  • @arianrashid5745
    @arianrashid5745 Před 3 lety +2

    Plato's theory of forms:
    All boxes are a copy of of the idea of boxes and when a carpenter makes a box he makes a copy of a copy therefore only ideas are perfect, but Dr. Mike's box is perfect.

  • @fnizzledizzle
    @fnizzledizzle Před 3 lety +5

    It's such a great feeling, when you do zero of the mentioned mistakes, and all of the correct ways. Thanks. I find my OHP to be very good, and mostly needs improvements on having a tight core all the way through.

  • @jeanchery7246
    @jeanchery7246 Před rokem

    Great teaching 👍

  • @FacelessProjects
    @FacelessProjects Před 3 lety +6

    That box was fucking legendary.
    I had a full secession of the self simply looking at it.
    The spiritual realms inhabited - it was an infinity and a singularity all at once.
    Good video too.

  • @ianmontgomery9356
    @ianmontgomery9356 Před 3 lety +4

    love that sweet box footage

  • @Deciden0w.
    @Deciden0w. Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome tutorial and tips! I don't usually do standing since I'd rather save my back for my legs and back workout. But the tips are helpful for my seated shoulder pressing

    • @09thespecialone
      @09thespecialone Před 2 lety +1

      Saving your back from what?

    • @lcj8909
      @lcj8909 Před 2 lety

      @@09thespecialone I mean saving my "lower back" strenght for my leg days where I back squat alot and back days where I do alot of free weight rowing movements

  • @phoenixiq4433
    @phoenixiq4433 Před 3 lety +1

    I love it, really helpful.
    Would be great if you do the same concept but for the Seated Shoulder press.

  • @iZenZation
    @iZenZation Před 3 lety +1

    Love Mike.

  • @DarrenMcStravick
    @DarrenMcStravick Před 3 lety +7

    That last part about the box was so romantic

  • @fatdad9361
    @fatdad9361 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic... Liked & Subscribed 👍🧐

  • @mindezzas
    @mindezzas Před 3 lety +1

    That Žydrūnas Savickas name drop was really well pronounced. Cathed me off the guard.

  • @timothynavratil437
    @timothynavratil437 Před 3 lety

    I love that box!

  • @canadianuser6453
    @canadianuser6453 Před rokem

    Going more narrow on my grip has given me a better rom and no shoulder pain. I'm also able to progressive overload properly. Going wider always gave me pain on one shoulder and stopped me from being able to progress.

  • @keithbobrosky6334
    @keithbobrosky6334 Před 3 lety

    Dr. Mike...funniest guy in the sport!

  • @TheFrankHuda
    @TheFrankHuda Před 3 lety +1

    I love these Dr Mike. Thank you and Dr James for the knowledge. Also, Mark Rippetoe suggests shrugging the traps at lockout. Is this shrug necessary to avoid scapular or shoulder issues in the general population?

    • @mattc4266
      @mattc4266 Před 3 lety +1

      Frank Hudacek you’re naturally gonna shrug upward while doing the lift to stabilize your scapula

    • @philclarke3660
      @philclarke3660 Před 3 lety +1

      you are not going to shrug upwards naturally wtf. There's a difference between scapular upwards rotation, which must happen for a proper overhead press, and scapular elevation, which would be more actively shrugging upwards. Try it yourself, I guarantee you will have less stability with a load overhead in an actively shrugged position vs. not

    • @TheFrankHuda
      @TheFrankHuda Před 3 lety +1

      Phil Clarke no I agree - it is less stable at lockout while actively shrugging.

  • @efromme
    @efromme Před 3 lety +1

    Thx for the tips ! Been doing ohp focused training in quarantine since no bench .

    • @Morpheah
      @Morpheah Před 3 lety

      Why not chest press from the floor?

    • @efromme
      @efromme Před 3 lety +2

      Morpheah I tried floor presses and I liked them at first but after a few weeks they started to hurt my front delts too much . So I’m taking this time to work on my mobility and shoulder flexibility. I’ll get back to benching soon , hopefully with healthier shoulders .

    • @Morpheah
      @Morpheah Před 3 lety

      @@efromme I see, good for you. As far as I am concerned, that's far more important overall, but it also has great carry-over and boosts bench/OH press and rows/pull-ups as well. Have you been working on mid/low traps-seratus anterior-rotator cuff an all that?

    • @Morpheah
      @Morpheah Před 3 lety

      @@efromme By the way, are you not interested in push-ups at all? You can combine elevated feet and put your hands on plates or dumbbells for deficit effect, so that'll be up to ~70% of your body weight, or try archer's variation for horizontal adduction.

    • @patrickjulius7352
      @patrickjulius7352 Před 3 lety +1

      I’m curious why did floor presses bother your front delt you think? I thought they were supposed to be a safer bench press for shoulders.

  • @joefalke5847
    @joefalke5847 Před rokem

    Thx doc

  • @ajinkyachavan5743
    @ajinkyachavan5743 Před 3 lety

    1st tip is Gold..

  • @rickblair5076
    @rickblair5076 Před 3 lety +3

    love that intro

  • @vbarbosa480
    @vbarbosa480 Před 2 lety +1

    tell us more about the SI joint injury and rehab

  • @Wojtek_-oz4mt
    @Wojtek_-oz4mt Před 11 měsíci

    I really should've watched videos like this before starting each exercise. I hurt my neck pretty bad doing overhead barbell press for the first time today.

  • @yoelmorales208
    @yoelmorales208 Před 4 měsíci

    Good video

  • @abhinavgupta2435
    @abhinavgupta2435 Před rokem

    @DR Mike - What about the 1 arm dumbell press? What are the advantages/disadvantages? and how does technique change?

  • @andreasarmyrantis6205
    @andreasarmyrantis6205 Před 3 lety

    Box Box box!! Mike's humor.

  • @Shawn12790
    @Shawn12790 Před 3 lety +4

    The song on these technique videos is fire emoji

  • @sill3n
    @sill3n Před 3 lety

    Lying hamstring curl please, what to think about when it comes to your pelvis, heard so many different opinions on that. Thanks.

  • @LisaSimpsonLiberal
    @LisaSimpsonLiberal Před 3 lety +1

    Could you do a video about the box though?

  • @UK2PAUSA
    @UK2PAUSA Před 3 lety

    This channel needs more box

  • @user-ly9qz1bi1v
    @user-ly9qz1bi1v Před 3 lety +1

    Now I need a separate video about that box. God damn it...

  • @danielmeyer8517
    @danielmeyer8517 Před 3 lety +3

    PLEASE a barbell squat video!

  • @Jankalaika
    @Jankalaika Před 3 lety +1

    Came here to see the box. Thats a really nice box 😄

  • @stephenp5973
    @stephenp5973 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for doing this tutorial while leaving your shirts on.

  • @StrongButAwkward
    @StrongButAwkward Před 3 lety

    Any plans to do a video for barbell hip thrusts?

  • @dwaynecunningham2164
    @dwaynecunningham2164 Před 2 měsíci

    I like Mike.

  • @fitstoic1329
    @fitstoic1329 Před 3 lety

    when you lockout at full extension, your back is arched, should you try to keep the back straight to lessen the strain on spine?

  • @paladindanse98
    @paladindanse98 Před 3 lety +1

    My favourite lift

  • @thedarknazo
    @thedarknazo Před 3 lety +1

    I got the memories of Snake talking about the box with the love for that box by mike hahaha

    • @saladsn8k548
      @saladsn8k548 Před 3 lety

      “Uh snake, what are you doing?”
      “I’m in a box...”

  • @AntonioDal.
    @AntonioDal. Před 3 lety +5

    Joey has a crazy build

  • @vp_808
    @vp_808 Před 3 lety +1

    Is it true that it helps with shoulder health/mobility?

  • @BERRUEZA
    @BERRUEZA Před 3 lety +1

    Question!
    What could be a reason that I hurt my upper back region doing standing barbell OHP?
    The weight felt heavy, but I managed 5x5 with strict form. I'm pretty sure I was doing all these cues, but I guess I just don't really know where I must have messed up, to compensate for the weight feeling heavy, to end up hurting my upper back :/

    • @joeyclarelli7232
      @joeyclarelli7232 Před rokem

      Herniated disk or buldge. Do them seated like I am to avoid injuries. Ohp worst for back

  • @b4yn
    @b4yn Před 3 lety +7

    Would keeping the elbows under the bar be another good tip, or cue? It goes a bit with keep the bar close but might be a bit more specific.
    Your demonstator (didnt get the name sry.) seemed was losing tension when his elbows fell slightly behind the bar at the bottom.

  • @willaustin117
    @willaustin117 Před 3 lety

    When he recommends seated, does he mean on a bench with back support or without? When I do it seated I can’t get my head out of the way because the bench is in the way so I’d have to kind of do it on a slight incline instead of upright or have the bench flat & do it without back support.

  • @flaviuspitigoi4002
    @flaviuspitigoi4002 Před 3 lety +11

    Uncle Rip isn’t pleased with this one 😂😂😂

    • @Sealed_Chamber
      @Sealed_Chamber Před 3 lety

      Oh no!

    • @oliverallen5324
      @oliverallen5324 Před 3 lety +3

      Mike is talking about for bodybuilding, not for general strength. Everyone's instruction has a focus that meets certain goals. Neither Mike nor Rip are stupid, but they definitely are targeting different audiences with their content.

    • @unnaturalatrophy8073
      @unnaturalatrophy8073 Před 3 lety +2

      @@oliverallen5324 so form changes if goal changes smart a s s?

  • @kccuffsman
    @kccuffsman Před 3 lety

    Can you do one on the pullover ?

  • @lukaskonrad463
    @lukaskonrad463 Před 3 lety +2

    Now that’s a nice box

  • @giantbryant55
    @giantbryant55 Před 2 lety

    I wanna buy that box!

  • @tehseenchanna3564
    @tehseenchanna3564 Před 3 lety +1

    love

  • @itsmark1991
    @itsmark1991 Před 3 lety

    Hey, i find that as i press the bar over my head i struggle to keep the bar level/parrallel with the ground, its not major but i always find that i have to correct it as i lockout at the top.
    Even with light weight, does it just come down to practice and getting used to the excersice? Or is there somthing i can do?

  • @elevenbravo499
    @elevenbravo499 Před 2 lety

    I may just not have noticed it but can you do a dumbbell ohp video?

  • @ShellyRoKnows
    @ShellyRoKnows Před 3 lety +1

    Oh… hey Joey 😌😍

  • @TheKupko
    @TheKupko Před 3 lety +1

    What about shrugging shoulders? What should scapula be doin?

  • @evancawley3236
    @evancawley3236 Před 3 lety

    Am I right in saying u recommend to do the barbell press sitting down?

  • @nilo7727
    @nilo7727 Před 3 lety

    Dr Mike!!!👍🙏😎 hook it up with a deload video!!🙏😎

  • @WilderGraham
    @WilderGraham Před 3 lety

    If you’re still taking suggestions for exercises, seated cable rows is an exercise I’d like some help with

  • @camerontait9132
    @camerontait9132 Před 3 lety

    Nice box, if you haven’t already do upright rows

  • @julieta203
    @julieta203 Před 2 lety +1

    Mistake No. 11 to 1000, crossfit version of every exercise.

  • @J90JAM
    @J90JAM Před 3 lety

    That is a nice box.

  • @jamescipiti4623
    @jamescipiti4623 Před 3 lety +1

    Where can I get that sweet box?!

  • @patrickjulius7352
    @patrickjulius7352 Před 3 lety

    Shrug at the top or no? Scapulas packed and stable or mobile throughout?

  • @andrewnava27
    @andrewnava27 Před 3 lety

    So is push pressing somewhat okay for strength training?

  • @lordofnines2167
    @lordofnines2167 Před 3 lety

    Dr Mike Have you ever done Poliquin Flies?

  • @JJvideoman
    @JJvideoman Před 3 lety +2

    I learnt to press from barbell medicine/starting strength.
    I assume the drive of the hips at the bottom doesn't violate mistake #7?

    • @teaohughes8122
      @teaohughes8122 Před 3 lety

      For strength it's great but for hypertrophy it's more fatiguing with no benefit to the delts and triceps hypertrophy

    • @09thespecialone
      @09thespecialone Před 2 lety

      Hip drive is cheating. Just lower the weight on the bar and press correctly. Go watch Klolov and learn how to strict press.

  • @spuZDK
    @spuZDK Před 3 lety +6

    I don't do overhead press, but hey! it's always good to know how to perform every exercise! Thank you for the videos! they are so good.

  • @adrikkrakhim1
    @adrikkrakhim1 Před 3 lety

    I heard Dr Mike LOVES Branch Warrens training style...... ;)

  • @jaghad
    @jaghad Před 3 lety +2

    Lol. "No, we don't fuckin love each other!". 🤣

  • @LoneWolf88849
    @LoneWolf88849 Před rokem

    been lifting for years i think seated OHP is better stable and safe for people with lower back issues

  • @gerardmarin8614
    @gerardmarin8614 Před 3 lety

    Omg. Just watching this vid and noticed the Trinidad and Tobago flag in the background. Shout-outs to my country 😄

  • @mkl1464
    @mkl1464 Před 3 lety +3

    Can you please make a video about cardio recommendations, cardiovascular health and work capacity

  • @GladiousMSR
    @GladiousMSR Před měsícem

    The "V-Sauce" of fitness!

  • @user-bv7jc
    @user-bv7jc Před 3 měsíci

    that _is_ a nice box