How to NOT Sound DATED (Don't Be THAT Producer!)
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2024
- Making 2 R&B beats while discussing how to prevent sounding dated as a producer
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Music fam, if this first beat makes you want to do the Bankhead Bounce, The Cabbage Patch, or the Reebok, I made this video for YOU! Just kidding around - As always, it's all love. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏽✊🏽
😂😂 got me
@@Soul_Avery 😂 😂You get a pass this one time. Go ahead and bust a move bro. 🫡
25:54 somebody call jagged edge there’s a beat for them here !!
I can definitely hear it more that you've said it lol. Thanks bro.
I find the easiest way to not sound dated is definitely use updated drums. I can’t help it but I love the Roland cloud and the vintage stuff but I’ll add some trap/drill/hip hop drums and it brings it forward. This video was on point brother Melo. 👏 👏👏👏👏
I appreciate it my brother. Yep, that's it - The drums are so important. Arguably the most important when it comes to updating your sound. (I might eventually get into the Roland Cloud... I've always loved their sounds.) Thanks again bro. I'm glad you enjoyed it. 🙏🏾🫡
You make making hits look easy! Great tips as well, thank you! 🙌
I appreciate that my brother! 🙏🏽✊🏽
Yo you cold my brother! I need to peep out your classes.
@@repyatwarI appreciate that fam. Come on through. I'd love to meet you. 🙏🏾✊🏾
Man,, brought me back to middle school with these gems.. If I was producing back then, like this,, tlc would be all over this first track..
Thanks brother. Mannn...I can definitely hear TLC on that one now.
Dont you stop making these videos bro, youre too good
I appreciate that my brother! 🙏🏾✊🏾
Oooh I hope there’s still some slots available by the time I get paid later today ❤
Thanks fam. If not, just let me know and I'll make sure you're able to get in. Looking forward to meeting you. 💙🙏🏾🫡
Always inspiring on whole nother level brother! 🔥
I appreciate it young brother! 🙏🏽✊🏽
Big Respect Fam, thanks for sharing your wisdom 🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate it my brother. I'm glad you enjoyed it. 🙏🏽✊🏽
wisdom and conviction. it's all in the music! thanks Melo
Thanks fam! 🙏🏾✊🏾
As always great content and tips! That electric piano and subtle guitar fill in the second beat is fantastic. 🔥🔥🎶🎵
Salute bro!🫡
Thanks bro! I appreciate it. 🙏🏽 Salute to you my brother! 🫡
That last track is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 You always have good content... Salute!
I appreciate it bro! 🙏🏾🫡
Nice Tracks!!!! I could vibe to this all day!!!
I appreciate it fam!! Glad you enjoyed it. 🙏🏾🫡
Masterful.
I appreciate it bro. 🙏🏽✊🏽
Approved bredda! 🙌🏾🤘🏾🙏🏾
I appreciate you my brother! 🙏🏾✊🏾🫡
this the channel ive been looking for . inspiring 🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate it my brother. Welcome to the channel. 🙏🏾✊🏾
Your beats sound so full. I love them.😍😍😍
I appreciate it bro! 🙏🏾✊🏾
Another fantastic video
I appreciate it fam. 🙏🏾✊🏾
The second beat 🔥💯👌🏾those chords 🥶
I appreciate it brother! 🙏🏾✊🏾
Brodie!!, this is so fire man. you know i always appreciate these videos. i was on the treadmill while watching this video.
My brother! I appreciate you. I hope that second track didn't slow your workout down too much lol. Thanks for checking it out bro. 🙏🏾✊🏾
@@melotheproducer Man i love R&B, so i could still focus and workout to it lol. It doesn't bother me. That last track def had Chucky Thompson r&b vibes, but with your style in it.
Very rare to see someone make a beat in Cubase. But your skill outweighs the DAW you use.
Thank you fam. 🙏🏾 Cubase is a powerful DAW, but it seems that they've slowed down their marketing and people don't use it as much in the US as they used to.
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Thanks fam! 🙏🏾✊🏾
@@melotheproducer
Thanks for the reply I'm a musician as well and I'm 42 your music making is inspirational because you don't hear to much MUSIC being made and promoted
@@igkrsThanks - I really appreciate that. 🙏🏾 Keep it going...We need to put as much good music out as possible. 💪🏾
GG man!!!!
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1:23 nailing that early timbo sound!
I appreciate it brother! One of my favorite producers. 🙏🏾✊🏾
using the Maschine to trigger the Mpc is blasphemous! LOL JK good work!
😂 Thanks my brother! I know it looks crazy with the MPC Studio sitting right there, but that's my workaround for the fact that the MPC Studio isn't designed to input MIDI into Cubase while still using the sounds from MPC Software. Glad you enjoyed it bro. 🙏🏾✊🏾
I instantly recognised that EP patch in the second beat. I thought 'oh that's from my es rack"' 😂😂 i wonder how it would have sounded if you Layered that EP patch with the SPARKLING EP and RNB SOFT patch. That harp sounded amazing too. I'm going to join you on the masterclass soon brother. I've been loving using my JV 880 Rack - it came with a pop expansion board too. My favourite sound is the guitars! I'm layering the JV rack with modern hard hitting drum sounds and synths from omnisphere, and it's sounding amazing.
Thanks bro. I knew you'd enjoy that JV-880 rack. That thing was legendary from the time it came out.
@melotheproducer yeah your my hero man. A true 💎 for us producers to look up to dude. recently, I have gone to basics where im reconstructing the songs that first inspired me and seeing how it all worked. It's been an enjoyable process
@@JSoulKeysWow...I'm honored brother. 💯 And I think that's a great way to sharpen your ear, as well as techniques.
Aye, man. I like making the illest beats of 1996! Got a whole playlist of just that on purpose.
Real ones know bro...'96 was a great time to be alive. That beat on your channel is crazy btw! 🫡
This sound is very much still relevant. The mixing and engineering is more of a factor to me than the music or drums
The "dated" thing is very subjective. I think the artists who can see beyond current trends are the ones who become trendsetters. But a lot of artists would be afraid to use a track they'd consider dated.
Plus, I was at Morehouse in the mid to late nineties. I can Bankhead TF out some gy🤬tdayum bounce! 🤣🤣🤣
Man what you know 'bout it? Can't let a good Bankhead Bounce go to waste 🤣🤣.😂
dope... Only in our culture does this happen. Artists are either deemed "too old" to do music or either "sound dated". Production wise or as an artist. I literally don't ever see this in reggae, country, rock, punk, soca, or any other culture like I've witnessed it in ours. It's beyond madd.
Thanks fam. Exactly. I actually hate that word ("dated") when it comes to music. You change your sound to sound "current" only to then find that what you were already doing is now the new trend. I think good music should be appreciated for what it is. It can definitely drive a person insane. Thanks for checking it out - I'm glad you enjoyed it. 🙏🏾✊🏾
@@melotheproducer I have been thoroughly entertained by your content man. I have produced records for some great artists and never heard anyone reference music in that way. sometimes i wonder who are these people talking to or when did those terms become commonplace. anyway, maybe one of these days we can collab cuz I really like your workflow. shoot me your email or something. Peace my brother.
@@leezydagod2507 Well stated my brother! Yeah let's definitely talk soon. melo@theclassicity.com . Peace bro.
Which Maschine is that?
Great content …recently discovered your channel
Thanks fam. 🙏🏽It's the Maschine Mikro Mk3.
“ANOTHA ONE” dope broooo 🔥🔥🔥 love that motif classic since it’s… well a classic!! By chance how did you record it into your daw? I see that you hooked it up through midi but also see the audio waves recorded from it? It’s just I have a Yamaha Dx7 which I would like to record in my daw but unfortunately I’m not sure what’s the best way to record hardware I’m still new at this!
Thanks bro! Yeah - Love my Motif man. Ok to connect a MIDI keyboard into your DAW, you're going to need some sort of MIDI interface. You should be able to find one for less than $30. (For older keyboards, run MIDI Out to MIDI In on the interface and vice versa with MIDI In. A lot of newer keyboards have a built-in interface via USB.) Once it's connected via MIDI, you'll also need to connect it to audio so you can actually hear the keyboard. So first, you'll record the MIDI just like you would with a VSTi. But after you do that, you'll also need to record the keyboard part to an audio track. That's pretty much it. And that'll apply to any kind of MIDI instrument you want to record into your DAW. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks again bro! 🙏🏾✊🏾
Dope bro thank you so much for the information!!!
If the dx7 has a stereo left and right output, would I just connect both to my two inputs of my Scarlett interface? I’m still trying to figure out the difference between mono and stereo
@@jorgeperez6308 Anytime bro. Yep. That's it. Turn your gain down on the inputs before plugging them in (and I'd even turn the Main/Master level down too) to avoid a spike to protect your equipment, and possibly your ears too. When you're recording into your DAW, you'll then just record to a stereo track. But if you want to record a sound that you know is only Mono (exactly the same on the left and right side) like most snares and kicks, for example, you can save some hard drive space and processing by panning that sound all the way to the left (within your keyboard) to record to the left channel or all the way right to record to the right channel and onto a Mono track in your DAW. If this part confuses you, just record to Stereo tracks to get started and then come back to that Mono part later lol. Hope this helps.
Thank you so much bro for all your help!! 🙏
@@jorgeperez6308 Anytime bro!
The title and intro is misleading, as the 2 records sound "dated". They're great, but there's no modern elements to them. Where's the differentiation on how to modernize them? Great compositions again, respectfully 🙏🏽✊🏽
Thanks fam. Did you listen to the explanation all the way through and listen to the final beats? The beats were intentionally created to sound dated and I explained some different things you could do to "rescue" a dated sounding beat. I appreciate the feedback. 🙏🏾✊🏾
That’s why I never stick to a genre I always keep experimenting.
Same here bro. I think that's a great way to keep growing. I love R&B and I'd say that's my main genre, but I love learning new genres. (For example, after 20+ years of producing, I just did my first Soca song this year.)
Hi Man i'm getting my self into coubase but I have no ide how to put the plagins that I downlodid into coubase (I have coubase 5 )
Hey bro. Hopefully this will help: steinberg.help/cubase_pro/v11/en/cubase_nuendo/topics/installing_and_managing_plugins/installing_and_managing_plugins_plugin_manager_window_r.html#:~:text=To%20open%20the%20VST%20Plug,%3E%20VST%20Plug%2Din%20Manager.
I was wondering if there is a specific reason why you use Maschine with the MPC software instead of the MPC Studio that you have right above it. I'm asking because I'm thinking about buying the MPC Studio and I want to know if there is any problem with Cubase.
The MPC Studio was designed to be used exclusively with MPC Software. Even though you can open the software as a VSTi in Cubase, the MPC Studio won't record into Cubase. So I just use the pads from the Maschine Mikro to record into Cubase. I just use the MPC Studio to mix in MPC Software.
You had initial audio plugin and xpand2 and they sounded good...why did i pass on those plugins..I've bought some cheap plugins and been disappointed..Now I'm gonna have re think some things.
Bro...Definitely don't sleep on those two. I'll be honest - XPand2 is so good that I didn't trust my ears. I thought I was tripping until someone else said "No...It really is that good." Keep an eye out for a good sale on those 2...I use them a lot. ✊🏾
It just comes down to quality & avoiding gimmicks really. when you try to make something sound old you lose all the creativity. the best stuff in the 90s was new for the time.
great example in my opinion is the 2017 wu tang album produced by mathematics. it's not only traditional Hiphop, but very much wu tang flavored, yet it still sounds new. like what you might've expected wu tang to sound like in 20 years if you thought about it back in the day.
Well stated bro. Totally agree. 💯🙏🏾✊🏾
I think you dont get that dated if you stick with traditionally sounding instruments and played in a classic way. Everything else is just trends. People are going to look down on Trap-influenced music at some point as unimaginative and predictable.
I agree 100% fam. I think the thing with Trap-influenced music has already started to happen. Thanks for checking it out. 🙏🏾✊🏾
Dope ideas bro. You're super talented but damn you talk fast lol
I appreciate it bro. 🙏🏾 Yeah man...I'm from the country...Can't hide it lol.
Do you work on pro tools??
I mainly use Cubase.
How much RAM do you have on your computer?
40GB. I was wondering why my audio performance meter was spiking so much (because 40GB should be enough), but I finally realized there was a setting (ASIO Guard) in Cubase to fix that.
@@melotheproducer Aww, ok… I think I may have to get a new computer because the one I have can only go up to 16GB…smh. I imagine my programs would be way smoother with 40…lol
@@Guilla4Life Man I remember when 16GB was a lot. But honestly, you can still get by with 16GB (until you get something with more RAM) if you have a decent processor. You might just have to do a few workarounds (like maybe freezing tracks/bouncing tracks so you don't use too many VSTs at once) and definitely take some time to optimize your computer for audio.
@@melotheproducer Naww, it still works decently for the most part…. I just can’t run multiple programs at once like MPC and Pro Tools, etc…
Are you using Nuendo DAW?
I'm using Cubase Pro. I haven't personally used Nuendo in some years, but I know they're very similar. Do you use Nuendo?
@@melotheproducerIndeed I do True Story it's been a min tho. I actually thought you were using logic at first
The music sounds Kool but still dated. I think added less with fresh Instruments and samples and the best special must be foremost. With just the beat or a single instrument very new and fresh can make a hit our day with a lot of changes and Instruments fail. I was that producer with adding so many instruments in a production. Now if it's more that seven sounds it's to many. I like the track you made though.
Thanks bro. The tracks in this video were intentionally created to sound "dated". I disagree that there's a specific number of layers that can be used before a track is considered dated because even the samples used in "modern" songs include a full band and then more sounds are added on top of those samples. It's all about blending the sounds together to your taste as a producer. Even though I wouldn't expect a current artist to use the first track, turning that track into a sample and remaking the drums would make it "current", which is what I said in the video. I just wasn't about to create and mix 2 tracks and then create a 3rd one all for the sake of this video. The second track, there are definitely artists who would use it today, even though it has a 90s feel. Often, people just don't know how big a beat can be until they hear an artist on it ("Hours and Hours" for example). But we all have different styles and opinions and that's why I really don't think the whole "dated" thing makes sense in the first place (unless we're talking about something that's obviously a trend, like in the first beat). Thanks again bro. 🙏🏾✊🏾