@@thechosenone3852 Well...if you've played any of these games long enough, you'd know it _doesn't fucking matter_ You really think "reading abilities" of a random champ you had no plans of maining that you checked out on your fourth day of playing bc "hey, I haven't tried any melee at all yet" has made you a better player today? That's hilarious
a few tips for you nemesis - when playing mid always put an observer ward on the highground and sentry on low ground - "a" click the enemy hero/portrait while close to the enemy melee creeps to pull them towards your ranged creep so u can last hit safer without getting harassed/poked - always use a spell to secure the range creep it gives more gold and xp .. dont let the enemy deny it - every 5 minutes day turns into night , most heroes have less/more vision during the night but all get movement speed bonus making it easier for ganks/rotations - always buy quelling blade on melee heroes to last hit easier - component items in dota are not boring .... for example ironwood branch can be planted on ground to block enemy vision/pathing or eat it with a tango to double the regen - courier deliver items hotkey by default is F3 if im not mistaking - when u get 4 stacks on jingu passive u can use Q on a creep wave to lifesteal to full health - phase boots are good on monkey king , it gives u 3 sec ghost every 8 sec - primal spring is channeled , the longer u channel the more dmg and slow it deals - mischief can be used to dodge enemy dmg/spells
for me something that worked to prevent the same issue you’re aging with wasting tps is that i bind the tp to alt t so that i never press it accidentally like that(the alt+key feature personally in dota is like half my keys) also there is an experimental feature in the settings for target champions only like in league, might wanna look it up and bind that to t maybe
@@giannisxalkis1965 sure but he’s just throwing it out to harass half the time in lane, if he’s gonna do that then he should at least save it for jingu stacks since the cd early is like 25 seconds
Definitely can reach immortal if he continues, same with grubby a warcraft 3 champion and legend. He started from herald and got to immortal in a year or so.
The thing is: Dota 2 has tutorials that teaches basics you haven't even seen. Warding is different to LoL. The tutorials only take 1-3 minutes each but you learn so much that you will penta every game. Give it a try. It's not a boring *ss league tutorial. It's actually good under the learning tab. I can promise you that you can't find out how things work just by playing.
@@Ichirukibetter That's exactly my point, the opposite of what you're trying to say. He's actually a really bad player, didn't even read or understand his hero abilities. So i don't get your compliment lmao.
@@teamgohadouken9713 dude we all know he is a bad player. Like literally. I mean? He is literally new to this game. I just tried to highlight that he got 2 rampages in 4 days so he can feel encouraged that even a noob like him, can get rampage 💀
Clearly has some skill on other MOBA. And Imagine how better he could be when he just read the abilities of his hero. saw just first game as monkey king and I am pretty sure he doesnt know how his spells work even after the game. :D
can't he just read the damn spells ? its frustrating xd , also the courrier for crying out loud just press on that damn arrow and forget about it u'll get your items xd
i tried dota 2 i really wanted to like it but it so god dmn hard , can't see a sh*t and so many things missing like flash , ghost , teleport , and how to buy the items , can't buy items like that , with a donkey flying hahaha that's just not right 😂😂😂 and there is many overpower broken champions , dota 2 really need alot of fixing and it will be the best game ever
@@mounirbilli7516 it may be like that from a beginner's point of view but dota 2 is a thousand times more balanced then league ever will. i play them both on a regular basis , however i can't find joy in playing league , cuz its too meta dependent and dome meta champions are literally unplayable against if you're not a hard counter .
@@zacneley4685 you must be playing a different version of league then. because I've been playing the same 2 champs for over 10 years and lots of players have successfully one-tricked champs (not just over a short period for certain patches but literally years)
What is the main advantage of Dota? variability. Almost any hero can be customized with hundreds of active items. What is the main disadvantage? but the same one. This results in an imbalance. One has only to remember Tinker, Dazzle and Ark Warden. Well, all kinds of magical vampirism with indestructible Razor.
the only mind blowing part is how many people here think reading the ability of a champ you randomly picked on your fourth day of playing the game and just feeling it out, getting used to even the most basic controls etc like that were to determine how well you are doing at actually learning the game itself.... He didn't pick MK to learn MK. He just picked it bc he wanted to get a simple first feel for what a melee champ feels like. If he keeps playing the game, he'll get good at it (much faster than most people) and eventually he'll know exactly what any champ does. And it won't fucking matter that he didn't read MK's abilities on his fourth day of playing. "I'm not a divine/challenger player so clearly I've not figured out an effective way to learn a game but let me tell this ex-pro how he's being stupid about how he's learning the game. what could go wrong. I surely won't sound foolish"
@@bexclue3007 you are dick riding. From what I remember of this video I watched like over a month ago. He’s constantly confused about his abilities and instead of just reading them to have a cursory understanding and working from there he just kept using them and wondering why they weren’t working. You’re acting like by not reading his abilities he’s tapping into some arcane knowledge that only the best players have access to but really he’s just handicapping himself for no discernible reason. Reading his abilities is not going to make him learn the game slower and MOST LIKELY it would actually help him. Just because he’s a former pro doesn’t mean he’s infallible and doesn’t mean he learns quickly or efficiently.
Tbh I think that, as a league player, he migh have the mechanics to play the spirits. Void is pretty fun and remind me of some of the league assassins.
@@-KpAbilio- Ye they all feel/play somewhat similar to league champ design (kinda hard to explain) so can be piloted somewhat competently if you're decent at league
there was no smurf in the last game xD that queen of pain you were up against in mid was a really bad player.. a herald.. the lowest of the lowest ranks he just tried to exist in the game, unlike the people you were up against before
I tried looking for a video of Danya playing the French Defense. Searching for it on his channels gives me about 20 or so videos, ALL of which are playing AGAINST the French Defense. This is has probably more to do with my inexperience with searching chess stuff, maybe the standard is to title it according to what the opponent does? Maybe it's just for the clickbait and I cannot search for this content or maybe it's just a danya thing. Does anyone know how to do this search? Find the videos where danya plays french? Literally every single video with french on the title he has the white pieces.
Even how good and knowledgeable Nemesis is he will start slowing down in the 2k mmr range. Thats when certain knowledge checks come in. Hero interactions, items and specific timings exclusive to Dota 2. Especially when actual Hero Hard counters exist in Dota and not present in league. Granted Nemesis has a large champ pool in league it will take a ton of time to figure out every single hero interaction in the game. Unlike league where you can one trick a champ to challenger. The game also changed so much from old Dota 2 I cant tell wtf is going on anymore lol.
It can be considered part of the Eastern Bloc because former Yugoslavia, although neutral, swayed hard towards trade and relations with Eastern Bloc countries.@@sliut1
@@shodan785 in case of what hero your team/ other team have, the game time is longer, but the tempo is faster cause more objective to fight, in pro league after laning phrase everyone just pushing and doing nothing
@@user-ld6wq6ft8x okay, which objectives? Shards that they have added last year? That are literally 15 sec away from base? Or Roshan that barely anyone touches early on? Or stacks of ancients?
@@shodan785everything above and more, league has big objectives that everyone fights over while dota has a ton of tiny ones that seem pointless at first but really add up It doesn’t help that most low mmr players completely forget about these objectives tho haha, I think devs could work on something to better indicate their importance imo
Rlly wish he would just read his abilities, at least half way into the game 😭 uncharged monkey king leap the entire time
ADHD/Tiktok brain
He's a League player. They don't read.
@@thechosenone3852 Well...if you've played any of these games long enough, you'd know it _doesn't fucking matter_
You really think "reading abilities" of a random champ you had no plans of maining that you checked out on your fourth day of playing bc "hey, I haven't tried any melee at all yet" has made you a better player today? That's hilarious
This guy needs to read his abilities
24:41 will quote this from now on
alex the lion? what the hell are you doing in my bicycle, oh sorry cat.
Hes a Baj
a few tips for you nemesis
- when playing mid always put an observer ward on the highground and sentry on low ground
- "a" click the enemy hero/portrait while close to the enemy melee creeps to pull them towards your ranged creep so u can last hit safer without getting harassed/poked
- always use a spell to secure the range creep it gives more gold and xp .. dont let the enemy deny it
- every 5 minutes day turns into night , most heroes have less/more vision during the night but all get movement speed bonus making it easier for ganks/rotations
- always buy quelling blade on melee heroes to last hit easier
- component items in dota are not boring .... for example ironwood branch can be planted on ground to block enemy vision/pathing or eat it with a tango to double the regen
- courier deliver items hotkey by default is F3 if im not mistaking
- when u get 4 stacks on jingu passive u can use Q on a creep wave to lifesteal to full health
- phase boots are good on monkey king , it gives u 3 sec ghost every 8 sec
- primal spring is channeled , the longer u channel the more dmg and slow it deals
- mischief can be used to dodge enemy dmg/spells
2nd tip is just getting minion aggro to pull/leash the minions
@@supertaakot +
Youve slowly getting better at the game brother, youre last hits are getting good
for me something that worked to prevent the same issue you’re aging with wasting tps is that i bind the tp to alt t so that i never press it accidentally like that(the alt+key feature personally in dota is like half my keys)
also there is an experimental feature in the settings for target champions only like in league, might wanna look it up and bind that to t maybe
remember to save mk q for when you have full jingu stacks, it almost doubles your damage and gives a ton of lifesteal
you can't always wait for it man
@@giannisxalkis1965 sure but he’s just throwing it out to harass half the time in lane, if he’s gonna do that then he should at least save it for jingu stacks since the cd early is like 25 seconds
Okay, first time seeing an MK use ironwood to use for W and not for tango in laning phase. Gives me some ideas.
This is so much more enjoyable without a coach :)
that 6:33 guy..leaugue is still kinda fun when you hit your skill celling butin DOTA it gest frustrating when you meet opponent at your same level.
Definitely can reach immortal if he continues, same with grubby a warcraft 3 champion and legend. He started from herald and got to immortal in a year or so.
The thing is: Dota 2 has tutorials that teaches basics you haven't even seen. Warding is different to LoL.
The tutorials only take 1-3 minutes each but you learn so much that you will penta every game.
Give it a try. It's not a boring *ss league tutorial. It's actually good under the learning tab.
I can promise you that you can't find out how things work just by playing.
4 days and he got two rampages
If u think these "rampages" means something on his rank in this game, u definitely are a LoL player.
@@teamgohadouken9713 lmao no. It’s just my way to compliment him so he knows that “rampage” is a special thing. Chill 🙄
@@Ichirukibetter That's exactly my point, the opposite of what you're trying to say.
He's actually a really bad player, didn't even read or understand his hero abilities. So i don't get your compliment lmao.
@@teamgohadouken9713 dude we all know he is a bad player. Like literally.
I mean? He is literally new to this game.
I just tried to highlight that he got 2 rampages in 4 days so he can feel encouraged that even a noob like him, can get rampage 💀
@@teamgohadouken9713 bro why so salty, literally his 4th time playing the game and first time on monkey
You can just right click move from a tree to not spend the mana from the channel.
2:04:50 pentakill
When you dont activate your BBK you get the BBC
funny every match sniper was banned. :)
Bro needs to look at some pro games to get a feel for the actual game. Looking at DotA from League's lens is fking with his head.
Already looks like 2.5k mmr gameplay
Clearly has some skill on other MOBA. And Imagine how better he could be when he just read the abilities of his hero. saw just first game as monkey king and I am pretty sure he doesnt know how his spells work even after the game. :D
He's a challenger(Immortal in Dota equivalent) in Korea in league of legends lmao, im surprised why he dont put time to read anything xD @@Sharkozis
I've climbed from 1k to 3.5k in WEU server over the past year, this is 1.2k at best - still a great result for just 4 days
@@dmidhordenko2676 im talking about NA 🤣
This is no way near 2.5k mmr, more like 1k to 1.5k
But he is improving
can't he just read the damn spells ? its frustrating xd , also the courrier for crying out loud just press on that damn arrow and forget about it u'll get your items xd
i tried dota 2 i really wanted to like it but it so god dmn hard , can't see a sh*t and so many things missing like flash , ghost , teleport , and how to buy the items , can't buy items like that , with a donkey flying hahaha that's just not right 😂😂😂 and there is many overpower broken champions , dota 2 really need alot of fixing and it will be the best game ever
@@mounirbilli7516 it may be like that from a beginner's point of view but dota 2 is a thousand times more balanced then league ever will. i play them both on a regular basis , however i can't find joy in playing league , cuz its too meta dependent and dome meta champions are literally unplayable against if you're not a hard counter .
@@mounirbilli7516LMAO, you can't be serious.
Your brain is the only thing that needs alot of fixing, kid.
@@zacneley4685 you must be playing a different version of league then. because I've been playing the same 2 champs for over 10 years and lots of players have successfully one-tricked champs (not just over a short period for certain patches but literally years)
What is the main advantage of Dota? variability. Almost any hero can be customized with hundreds of active items.
What is the main disadvantage? but the same one. This results in an imbalance. One has only to remember Tinker, Dazzle and Ark Warden. Well, all kinds of magical vampirism with indestructible Razor.
Somebody teach him to buy wraithband quelling blade lmao
its so mind blowing that a pro player in an extremely similar game doesnt understand the importance of reading your abilities lmfao
the only mind blowing part is how many people here think reading the ability of a champ you randomly picked on your fourth day of playing the game and just feeling it out, getting used to even the most basic controls etc like that were to determine how well you are doing at actually learning the game itself....
He didn't pick MK to learn MK. He just picked it bc he wanted to get a simple first feel for what a melee champ feels like.
If he keeps playing the game, he'll get good at it (much faster than most people) and eventually he'll know exactly what any champ does. And it won't fucking matter that he didn't read MK's abilities on his fourth day of playing.
"I'm not a divine/challenger player so clearly I've not figured out an effective way to learn a game but let me tell this ex-pro how he's being stupid about how he's learning the game. what could go wrong. I surely won't sound foolish"
@@bexclue3007 you are dick riding. From what I remember of this video I watched like over a month ago. He’s constantly confused about his abilities and instead of just reading them to have a cursory understanding and working from there he just kept using them and wondering why they weren’t working. You’re acting like by not reading his abilities he’s tapping into some arcane knowledge that only the best players have access to but really he’s just handicapping himself for no discernible reason. Reading his abilities is not going to make him learn the game slower and MOST LIKELY it would actually help him. Just because he’s a former pro doesn’t mean he’s infallible and doesn’t mean he learns quickly or efficiently.
think he would like to play brood mother, that spiders whole gamplay is farm split run away
cant wait to see u playing flashy mid like invoker, puck, and 3 spirits
Tbh I think that, as a league player, he migh have the mechanics to play the spirits. Void is pretty fun and remind me of some of the league assassins.
Come hop on stream, he played a game of void spirit yesterday
@@-KpAbilio- Ye they all feel/play somewhat similar to league champ design (kinda hard to explain) so can be piloted somewhat competently if you're decent at league
@@sprintingbutnot really? I don't usually watch streams, where does he stream?
@@-KpAbilio- twitch lol_nemesis
planting the ironwood branch for monkey king to jump on is really smart. I have 4K hours and I've never ever thought of doing that, good shit!
malrine did that at dreamleague 2 weeks ago
there was no smurf in the last game xD that queen of pain you were up against in mid was a really bad player.. a herald.. the lowest of the lowest ranks
he just tried to exist in the game, unlike the people you were up against before
why is he playing dota now? he quit league or something?
I tried looking for a video of Danya playing the French Defense. Searching for it on his channels gives me about 20 or so videos, ALL of which are playing AGAINST the French Defense.
This is has probably more to do with my inexperience with searching chess stuff, maybe the standard is to title it according to what the opponent does? Maybe it's just for the clickbait and I cannot search for this content or maybe it's just a danya thing.
Does anyone know how to do this search? Find the videos where danya plays french? Literally every single video with french on the title he has the white pieces.
You're lost brother
Lichess, tools, openings, French, search by Players
Even how good and knowledgeable Nemesis is he will start slowing down in the 2k mmr range. Thats when certain knowledge checks come in. Hero interactions, items and specific timings exclusive to Dota 2. Especially when actual Hero Hard counters exist in Dota and not present in league.
Granted Nemesis has a large champ pool in league it will take a ton of time to figure out every single hero interaction in the game. Unlike league where you can one trick a champ to challenger.
The game also changed so much from old Dota 2 I cant tell wtf is going on anymore lol.
It's hilarious to see LoL players struggle with managing activatable abilities and items together. Didn't know LoL was that simple.
Yes, lol is fast paced game and most of the time you will only have 1 active item unless you are a support
you never play lol again, 100 times better than lol
You have to grow up in a former Eastern Bloc country if you want to be good at Dota.
Is Slovenia eastern block?
It can be considered part of the Eastern Bloc because former Yugoslavia, although neutral, swayed hard towards trade and relations with Eastern Bloc countries.@@sliut1
@@sliut1Nope
Dota players try to have one game without a disconnect, challenge impossible. The fuck you all doing?!
Nah no League team wants him?
Time to turn pro in dota then
Would be awesome to see him go pro here.
Need 10k mmr to be pro that's like challenger 1000LP minimum..
@@jqa16 Very hard to do but not impossible.
that's not impossible for a guy that spends most of his time infront of PC@@jqa16
definitely doable and would make a great story if he ever hit finals
what is this alchemist character? hes farming with W from distance. ye buddy you fooling everyone.
wut
CAN YOU READ THE ABILITIES BRO WHATS WRONG WITH U
"How do I deal with this poison? it's so annoying, I don't want to stand in it." Proceeds to stand in it. League player mentality lmfao
"dota is such a slow game man", buy a high rank account and try a few games. See if DotA is slow.
its slower than league tho? Game times + laning. Although it got better with 2-1-2 meta which there was when i last tuned in
well of course its slower then league 1 losing teamfight and the games over at 20 minutes.@@shodan785
@@shodan785 in case of what hero your team/ other team have, the game time is longer, but the tempo is faster cause more objective to fight, in pro league after laning phrase everyone just pushing and doing nothing
@@user-ld6wq6ft8x okay, which objectives? Shards that they have added last year? That are literally 15 sec away from base?
Or Roshan that barely anyone touches early on?
Or stacks of ancients?
@@shodan785everything above and more, league has big objectives that everyone fights over while dota has a ton of tiny ones that seem pointless at first but really add up
It doesn’t help that most low mmr players completely forget about these objectives tho haha, I think devs could work on something to better indicate their importance imo
dota looks like piece of sheet compared to league.
YEP