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What people get wrong about revenge

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  • čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
  • #philosophy #revenge #ethics
    Media often depicts revenge as a desire for pure payback - an eye for an eye. When we take a closer look, however, we can see that revenge is a bit more complicated!
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Komentáře • 12

  • @lanceanthony198
    @lanceanthony198 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Revenge seems like the wronged individual or group committing some harmful act against the person or group who wronged them. Retribution seems like when either the wronged individual or an external body enacts punishment in response to the person who was wronged

  • @lanceanthony198
    @lanceanthony198 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Yes I always thought revenge was more of a form of communication with the person who wronged them, or a way to fairly settle the dispute with that person though physical means.

  • @Astro_Aladfar
    @Astro_Aladfar Před rokem +3

    I found the concept of message in revenge insightful.

  • @ImplodingChicken
    @ImplodingChicken Před rokem +6

    A very timely video for me; I just wrote up an argument against penal substitutionary atonement and I was looking at aims of punishment. If this is your area of expertise then I have a question: the aims I was examining were deterrence, incapacitation, rehabilitation, retribution, and restitution. Most all punishments seemed to fit into one or more of these categories, but then someone brought up apologies. What aim of punishment do pure apologies fall under? Do they even count as punishments?

    • @PhilosophicalQuestions
      @PhilosophicalQuestions  Před rokem +4

      Apologies in a broader sense are important in the recent academic discussion of communicative theories of punishment (a mix of retribution and deterrence). Such theories claim that the punishment should offer the offender ways of apologizing or even atoning to the victim or the broader community. This can be done by accepting a legitimate sentence, or by providing restitution, participating in victim-offender mediation, etc. Antony Duff (Punishment, Communication, and Community, 2001) and Christopher Bennett (The Apology Ritual, 2008) are good academic books for this question.
      But if you mean by "pure apologies" the mere verbal act, then I don't really know anyone saying that this would be punishment. It can be part of a broader response to wrongdoing, but it will probably need more (restitution, rehabilitation, or punishment)

    • @ImplodingChicken
      @ImplodingChicken Před rokem

      @@PhilosophicalQuestions OK, thanks!

  • @marcwhilden5517
    @marcwhilden5517 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I choose not to have social media except for CZcams. I got rid of my social media for a lot of the reasons that you bring up. In doing so my life has less stress. Now that it's been over a year, I don't know why people still use it. For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would have a twitter or "X" account.

  • @alex59963
    @alex59963 Před 11 měsíci +1

    New to ur content, good stuff... Hope u get the views and likes deserved

  • @FlufReviews
    @FlufReviews Před rokem +2

    Revenge is best served cold

  • @cleopatra108
    @cleopatra108 Před 9 měsíci

    yes please do ethiocs of revenge!
    ideally i needed that yesterday...

  • @naftalibendavid
    @naftalibendavid Před 11 měsíci

    Revenge is all about forgiveness.