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These are the first three Festool purchases for beginner woodworkers or anyone looking to get into the brand. Whether you are a seasoned woodworker or an absolute beginner, there tools will make a significant impact for you in your shop.
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Bought the ct 26 many years ago with the reusable bag and realize now it's the best woodworking purchase I ever made. Super dependable, keeps dust out of my clients' homes and more importantly out of my lungs.
Thanks for sharing!
Couldn't agree more. I've got two CT 26 extractors and am very close to buying a third and final one. I will have of them topped with the Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy for capturing all of the dust and chips. This combination is amazing.
@@DavidATakes do you still use a bag in the ct26 or only the filter with the dust deputy?
@@POLPO_WOOD The Oneida catches almost all of the dust. The little bit that gets by has to go somewhere, that is what the bag is for. Since so little gets to the bag they last an extremely long time.
Domino is the biggest game changer in my shop. I’ve never regretted the cost.
I've just started my Festool collection, and I went with the TS55 + the midi. 100% agree that the dust extraction makes the brand. I've bought dust adaptors for my other brand tools, and the extractor makes me love those more too.
Before I get to my own list, you nailed in the domino section with some people wanting the benefits without all the work of hand tooling. For me, the woodworking aspect is fun and I enjoy the process, but really it's still just a means to an end, that end being the project itself, not the process of getting there. I'm even adding a small CNC to my shop to automate some of the things that take up my time in the shop.
My personal list:
1. Yep, agree completely. Dust extractor. Ideally purchased with another tool to get the benefits of both, but if one at a time is the only path, still a dust extractor. It can be used with any tool with the right adapter, and the festool extractors are amazing. I went with the CT Midi I along with the bluetooth remote and absolutely love it. I also bought the cleaning kit with the 36mm hose. But yeah, you nailed it with putting the extractor at #1.
2. Yep. The same sander you showed, the ETS EC 150/5. It's a workhorse. It can be pretty aggressive yet still excellent for fine finish sanding as long as you're cautious and aware of how aggressive it can be. Along with all the other reasons you mentioned as well.
3. This is where I differ from your list; for me it's a tracksaw. I went with the TS 55 FEQ with 55" track and also bought a 32" track. No regrets there. It's an amazing tool. I use my tablesaw far less now that I have my tracksaw.
Just for a bit more insight, I'll give my #4 and #5 as well, but neither of them are festool, but still work well within the festool system.
4. A Dowelmax. Domino accuracy, ease of use and joint strength, just a bit slower (though not by a ton), far cheaper than a domino yet still not a cheap tool. Having my Dowelmax has been the only thing preventing me from getting a domino. It's amazing. Jessem makes a nice doweling jig too, but I still chose the Dowelmax for the integrated clamping and because it's a bit easier and more intuitive to use.
5. A Parf Guide MK II. As amazing as the festool MFT is, I just felt that this was one of those instances where I could build better than what is offered for sale, and the Parf Guide has helped me achieve that. I've made several tops with it in different sizes so it's effectively paid for itself. I actually thought an MFT would be in your list.
Anyhow, excellent video to open up a worthwhile discussion Mr. Bent! Well done.
I wasn’t sold on getting a dust extractor until I bought one. My mentor kept bugging me to get one, I got the CT26 and coupled it with a Mullet cyclone. Should’ve done it sooner. Not long after I saved up for the domino. Haven’t used it a whole lot with the things I’ve been doing but at no point did I ever think about getting rid of it. I always knew I’d be making furniture again. I had plans for sander or sanders, ts75 and the router system. Fell on some hard times and hopefully better times are coming. I still have my eyes on more festool
My first Festool product was the TS 75 Track saw 17 years ago. I recommend a track saw and track as the number 1 tool. Second tool would be a sander along with the number three tool dust extractor. Kapex could easily be top three in place of the sander.
IMO, TS55, RO150, ETS150/3. I bought the RO125, TS55, then ETS 125. I was told to go with the 6" sanders, but didn't listen.
Before I bought the RO125, I must have purchased a half dozen sanders from different manufacturers, and hated every one. When I first used the RO125, I was in love. I don't think my wife is too pleased because I'm now into the Festool pool about $12K deep. I'm planning on a RO80, but there has always been another shiny toy I wanted more.
These are the only 3 festool tools I own. And all of them are worth what I paid for them.
Similar to the Planex 2 - people give me shit saying, “oh that’s for people who aren’t good at drywall” EXACTLY, I’m not great at drywall and while I’m improving, I can always get a phenomenal, defect-free result, with minimal dust, in a fraction of the time. More importantly it completely changes remodeling work.
Bought same tool and a come to sand ceilings after taking down popcorn ceilings in our home worth every penny…
@@blt981 Definitely, even for that purpose alone it’s very quick ROI for a couple of jobs.
Jason is 100% right regarding the 500 vs the 700. I bought the 700 first which you could call a mistake, but I feel having both is not overkill. Get tools.
Order of my first Festool purchases were equal 1st: Sander and Extractor package, 2nd: Kapex Mitre Saw and 3rd: Track Saw. Then I was hooked.
Intermediate. 3. Ets ec 150/5 2. Ts55 3. Df500. Cut it, join it, sand it.
Dust extractor and sander was the best thing I’ve ever bought for my painting company. It paid for itself in a week. Now I have 3
I work in healthcare clinics. What’s the saying???? Matt from 731? GAME CHANGER
Game changer 🤣
Track saw, domino 500, dust extractor
1) Dust extractor. The Midi works well for me.
2) Rotex RO-90. I get a lot of work restoring front doors and this tool's versatility and compact sanding head are perfect for this work.
3) ETS-125. The 2mm stroke leaves a very fine finish and it is Festool's cheapest sander.
The difference between a shop vac with hepa filter and My CT-Midi is night and day. I would never go back.
Great advice Jason. When I first got into woodworking, I found a small woodworking shop an hour away that I visited. They also teach woodworking. So they had tools and experience to share with me. They also had a very nice Festool display. I was able to try some tools, and even though I did not buy any Festool at that time, it helped me decide to buy Festool tools and I’ve never regretted it.
I remember being frustrated by simple things like building boxes and drawer boxes when I first got started (pocket screws slipping just a tad or trying to assemble something and just having something be a tad off) and then I got a Domino. I made one drawer box with it (using the built in guides) and the thing was dead flat/aligned all the way around. I swore I'd never *not* use the Domino on anything that required something to be aligned again.
And totally agree on the sander and the dust extractor. I have the CT 26 and I have the 5" sander mainly because I had a ton of 5" media to use and the 5" sander can use 6" sanding pads with the 6" interface pad.
I have found the Festool track saw critical when you don’t have access to a table saw. My first Festool tool I bought was a 6” sander and dust collection. I built and entire sailboat with it and have been using it six years later. Incredible tool! I have the domino 500 and find myself using the largest size 90% of the time and wish I could go bigger. Next Festool purchase will be the 700.
I went with the dust extraxctor, sander and track saw first. I don't have a Domino yet, but that's probably my next purchase. Totally agree that the dust extractor is the single most critical piece of the system.
I have the same 3, different order. Domino first because it's so unique in it's function, dust extractor second, sander 3rd. Really 2 and 3 are best together.
As a professional woodworker of 25 years, and a heavy user of Festool (pretty much everything they’ve made) for 21 (and now also Mafell) and a bit of a tool nut (very best and most appropriate tool for each task) I agree with you 100%…. And really well done for explaining your reasons so well, spot on…. Great watch, subscribed 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
I tell beginners, you gotta cut, you gotta sand you gotta drill...whatever it is get them 3 things first...then refine just what you want, Domino absolutely, brisketer absolutely...right equipment makes a huge difference and makes this journey way more enjoyable...
Hi from Germany. Before I have bought any Festool a Bosch GAS 35 MFAC dust extractor was in my workshop. First Festool : Kappex 120 REBQ, second: TS55 REBQ tracksaw, third: T18+3 HPC cordless drill. In the meantime the Bosch dust extractor is replaced by a Festool CT midi, which fits much better to my tools.
Thanks for sharing
DF500 was the first tool from festool
it saves so much time in not having to make setuop marks
When I decided to drink the green koolaid, here is my order 1. ETS EC 125/3 sander and CT26 with blutooth 2. Domino 500 3. ETS 125 sander with edge guide and finally 4. OF 1400 Router. Worked well for me! I”m set for a while I think. My track saw is the Makita SJ6000 with Makita tracks. I also just got the Festool 55” track with the shelf pin holes. Now I’m all set for a while. EDIT: Get the Onida dust cyclone that fits the CT26, works incredibly and the bag in the CT26 actually has nothing in it, emptied the cyclone 20 times and changed the bag only once after 5 years! Nothing gets through to it. Only microscopic dust that doesn’t accumulate. I only changed it because it was 5 years later so why not get a fresh bag in there,
This is precisely the best place to start in the ecosystem. But I vote RO150, not ETSEC. And a few years later you’ll have three extractors, four sanders, two dominos, three track saws, two routers, and fifteen systainers of accessories.
Likewise, my first Festool,purchase was into the Festool System. I first saw the Festool System at a woodworking tool show a Japan Woodworker, in Alameda CA, one of Festool’s first dealers on the West Coast. There I met Festool America’s then CEO Christian, and purchased the MFT 800 table, CT22 and a TS55. I then added a couple of,Festool,sanders and the OF1010 router to give me a basic job kit, I was using on site doing boat interior repair/restoration work. The whole package was very portable and easy to set up on site at boat yards. Accuracy and clean cuts was very important to the fine joinery I was doing.
Cheers
I got the hkc first. That thing is still in its own class.
Two days ago I just got “ANOTHER” 75” track.
Everything else in between.
In my van I have a 76” deep drawer that cantilevers out of the back doors 56”
Inside that, but not extending past, I have 60” linear slides. On the slides is the csc sys 50.
So you fold the barn doors all the way against the van and there levitates the tablesaw 😊
I totally agree with the recommendation. My first Festool product (after a long history from Bosch green, Bosch blue, Makita for all 18V and some Fein and Flex) was the TS 55 REBQ together with the CTL MIDI in 2017, plus now two MFT/3. Those 3 products would be my personal recommendation, if asked.
The next was the ROTEX RO 90 and then the CARVEX PS 420. Those brought my options in terms of hobbyist woodworking to a whole new level.
It is a lot like photography: you date a camera, but you marry a lens system and will be tied to that for many years. With the dust extraction that works across the whole range (now also with a CTM36 E AC with pre-filter) and the CENTROTEC tools for the Quattro and C18 I feel that everything makes sense end-to-end. One aspect is the speed of working, but for me the satisfaction with the quality of the finished product, but as well the satisfaction of using the most professional tooling, justify the investment - not a feature/price comparison alone.
My first Festool purchase was a CT 33 and a TS 55.Besr tool purchase I ever made.
My first Festool was the Domino DF500, followed by the ETS 150/5 and third I got the Kapex with a dust extractor, to date i have not regretted any of these purchases.
We bought a CT 48 AC extractor, a TS FEQ track saw, and an OF 1400 router as our first 3 Festool products. We have a Dowelmax kit for loosish M and T's. Thanks
Yeah. I agonized over my first purchase (how could I justify $800 for a sander?). Now $3500 for a Kpex...no problem. Honestly just having the tools has gotten me so much work that it has more than paid the tools off (and a tax write off for me). Especially the planex that I use to quick prep walls before paint to save all that washing I used to do. And you are so right about the dust extractor. It is the center of the wheel.
The first Festool tool I bought was the dust extractor, not because I was looking to get into Festool, but because I was looking for a great dust extractor. The second one was the 150mm ETS EC 150/5 sander. It took me a while to make the decision because of the price, but once I used it for the first time, I was amazed at what an upgrade it was on my Dewalt sander.
Thanks for sharing!
I've been having various friends and relatives suggest I try supplementing my pension by restoring and refurbishing old furniture - there are numerous YT videos by folk who do it here in UK. They say how I have made stuff and how I have plenty of tools and a decent sized (for UK London) workshop. But... my tools are based on gutting and refitting our current house so more about construction than furniture. I'd have to invest in at least M-Class dust extraction, air filtration, suitable tools, especially sanders. In younger days, I wouldn't have paid so much attention to dust. Now, I'm at least as concerned for dust in my clothes affecting our grandchildren and very impressed with the change of worldviews about dust control compared with older days. That said, I did, recently sand down and re-finish (with boiled linseed oil) a wooden high chair for our granddaughter - worked out great and daughter now asking for more furniture jobs as well as wardrobes
I love, love, love, my 150/5 sander!
I had my 3 in mind going into the video. Exact same 3. But I put the sander at 1 and the extractor at 2. I’d rather have the sander hooked up to a cheap shop vac than a cheap sander hooked up to the extractor
My first buys were the MFT table, TS saw, QF1400 and guides.
My next buys are going to be the CTL36 and the Domino.
I have the CT Midi and it is astounding how effective it is. You think of it as just an expensive vacuum cleaner but it is so much more effective then any vacuum of its size including you don’t get shocked by touching it after sucking up a lot of sawdust. I would always buy it again if I had to do it over again
I’m with you on the Domino. I haven’t bought one yet because they are so expensive. But there really isn’t anything else out there that compares well. Sure there are other ways to do a similar thing. That’s what I do now. I will eventually buy a Domino jointer. As far as other Festool tools, I’ve always found another brands that win out my comparison criteria. So far, I haven’t regretted not getting any Festool yet.
I agree. I purchased the 26 and love it. With it I purchased the 125 sander and have been happy with it for what I do. Will buy the rotex at some point. Domino 500 is game changer, completely agree. If you did a top 5, I would add the track saw and LR 32 router set up. Well done and I will try not to covet your tool selection.
I recently purchased a CT 26 E to replace the huge Craftsman vacuum I used for 20 years. My shop is only 240 square feet, so space is at a premium. The CT takes up a lot less space, the hose is amazing and I purchased the Bluetooth module, which I love. I also got the floor cleaning kit and the foam filter in case I need to use it as a wet vacuum. I’m looking at one of the routers for my next Festool. Great video. Thanks!
Domino, track saw, dust extractor
I agree on the dust collector but go ct 15 way easier to afford. I use this with all my Festool and Makita tools and 3m sander and Dewalt sander. You can also upgrade the 15 as you go by adding the garage and a new hose and then the blu tooth if you want.
Good Video, Thanks.
1)Sander
2)TS55 Track saw
3)Dust Extractor
4) 1010 router w/LR32
Their Oscillating Multi Tool is insane also!! Check it out!
I agree your first 2 picks for sure. I was lucky enough to buy the midi and the rotex as my first 2 Festool tools. I would say without a doubt that the Festool dust extractor was life changing for my woodworking. People just don’t understand how it impacts so many different parts of woodworking, including your health .
That is exactly the order I would have put them in, for nearly the same reasons.
Agree. I just bought a festool sander after owning a cheapo porter cable for many years - Wow what a difference.
Thoroughly reasoned and well planned based on deep personal experience. I never miss Bent's videos and I've never regretted my Festool purchases.
Retired now civil servant kids gone wanted to gear up my woodworking…Festool very expensive but I could pass it down to three boys or grandson…
Rotex sander, Domino 700 ( with accessories to use 500 dominos), extractor. I go for the all round capability.
Thank you!
You’ve 100% confirmed the name and order of the festool tools that I purchased before this video. Exactly! I’ld also add #4 Kapex 120 and #5 OF 1400.
3 tools - TS55, CTMIDI I, ETS 125. Modifications to get: 2 - 55ʻ Guide rails, clamps and connectors. For the MIDI get the BT switch. For the ETS 125 Edge guide.
Great list! I will say for most beginners the sander and dust extractor are usually combo buys, but even at the high price it has been my best quality of life upgrade with the amount of sanding that I do. Also for me the domino and track saw are close for me but for a beginner the domino does help so much with alignment it’s tough to beat.
1. DF500 Domino
2. CT26 Dust Extractor
3. TS 60K Track Saw
Dust collector (your choice), sander (again your choice) , track saw. All my first 19 years ago. Btw, Brent you’re looking good. Been hitting the gym? Take care.
CT26, RO150, TSV 60 kit, MFT/3 and then of course TSO parallel guids and Rail Guide sq.😁
These were my first three Festool orders (six items):
1+2 Cordless drill (T18+3 E with batteries) + Work lamp (KAL II)
3+4 Dust extractor (CT 26) + Domino joiner (DF500) + Domino systainer
5 Cordless table saw (CSC SYS 50 with batteries and stand)
Agree with the Dust Extractor, get the reusable bag, and a sander, I prefer the 125mm size. So that's one and two. Number three is problematic, but for me it was the Kapex, cutting on a whole new level of accuracy. The domino , I agree is a simply great tool, but with an existing Mortiser, it was the last thing I purchased. Always enjoy your videos.
Good choice. The DF500 is a game changer; sound joints made easy. I chose the CTL SYS for portability - as in take the tool to the job not the job to the tool. Try using a Festool sander or Domino without extraction. Neither perform any where near as well! The whole point of investing in Festool is increased productivity with tool optimised for specific tasks that work TOGETHER!
I’m just starting my Festool journey. Agree with your list. I started with MIDI, TS55 and Domino. Shortly after got ETS EC150/5 and OF1010. Thinking next purchase is DTS400 then Carvex. Absolutely love having every tool hook into the same power cord and vacuum hose
Just bought the CT MIDI and the ETS WC 150/5. Can’t wait to try them out.
Yep, bought exactly these three first. Just brilliant.
Gateway to festool was TS55 and multiple tools including CT22, RO150 and drills. That was 2004 and I
am still running these. 2014 Domino was purchase great addition. I like the track saw as a 1st choice esp breaking down sheet goods.
Excellent list, no notes. I got an ETS EC 125 to start, and it was like a religious awakening when I used it, I didn't know sanders could be SO GOOD. I used a tiny Shop Vac with it and the dust collection was excellent. My fiance ended up buying a CT 15 and omg I had the same mind-blowing experience all over again. The dust extractor is the best vacuum I have ever used, and easily best dust extractor for woodworking. I use it for everything now, just general cleanup in my house. It's that good. The sander with the dust extractor is so good, I can sand inside my house without a mask. It is crazy how good it is.
I have the CT MIDI and the ETS EC 125. I mostly do small stuff so the 150 is overkill for my needs.
I have the same three except I have the 125... wish I had started with the 150 for sure.
This video should come with a warning label about falling down the Festool rabbit hole. I started with the Rotex150 because I had some house projects that needed the material removal rate. Then I needed the dust extractor to go with it, CT36... Then the track saw, planer, resisted the domino for way too long... Then took the plunge. Don't regret a single one.
Knocked these out before the end of the video, so as to not be biased by your choices. My picks: 1) Dust extractor; 2 6” dia. Orbital sander; and 3) Domino - 700, since I make larger projects.
Same.
1. Dust extractor.
2. Sander.
3. Domino 500.
Runner-up: Track saw (55).
💯
1. Kapex, 2. Track Saw (55), 3. Domino. Dust extraction is a must. I hate sanding but agree the Festool sanders are wonderful. I would say get the ETS 125 and the Edge sanding guide.
The CT 26e and ETS EC150/5 were my first Festool purchases for controlling the dust. After using it I was amazed at how good the dust extraction is. I added the Bluetooth module later. The quality of the tools are great and a joy to use for me.
Thanks for sharing!
My biggest regret was not investing in Festool tools from the get go. I wasted an untold amount of money on cheaper brands only to eventually realize that I could have made my life easier years ago. Now almost half of my most used tools are Festool. If I had to pick my top 3, my Dust Extractor (CT 36) would be my most used tool. Followed by ETS EC 150 and the good ol' DF 500 Domino. I'm currently working on building my own MFT table and looking forward to using it to build my new built-in closet!
My list will be 1-tracksaw 2-vac 3-sender 4-domino
Track saw,sander, vacume
Beginner, CT Midi, ETS 125/3, TSC55.
I got the domino right after this and learnt a lot with that tool.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video, Jason!
I finished a kitchen table refinish project a few months back and am still cleaning up the dust! After that project, I KNEW I needed dust collection, which was my attraction to the Festool system. Yes, my HEALTH is IMPORTANT!
When choosing my dust collection system, I opted for the CT26 due to its size and the need for a HEPA filter for a cleanup in my mother's attic. I needed something that could fit up through the attic access.
Here's a tip I learned: if you're considering a larger capacity but not ready to invest in the CT36 or CT48, you can get that capacity by purchasing the CT36 or CT48 base and fitting the CT26 on it. It's a cost-effective solution! According to a Festool rep, the CT26 has the same motor as the CT36/CT48.
So my top three Festool Tools are:
CT26
ETS EC 150/5 EQ-Plus
TS60 with FS1400/2-LR32
I opted for the Jessem Master Doweling Kit due to budget and I will say the Domino is STILL on my list due to the dust created by the doweling jig!
Thanks for sharing
I was thinking about what I would get first when you started talking about it I couldn’t agree with you more you nailed it !
My first Festool acquisition was the pendulum jigsaw back in 2008. I bought it specifically to cut some 8/4 Red Oak for a coffee table and it put my old Craftsman jigsaw to shame. Recently I picked up the TS-55. Saving up for the CT Midi or the CT-26 next.
My kids bought me the TS55 track saw for Christmas so I bought the CT26 and an extra track and the connectors. I have a super small work area so I’m looking at the MFT next so I can get square cuts. Then the sander 😊
My order was the ct26 to use with my 3m sander then bought the ets125 with the edge attachment then the domino 500. Next will be the ets150.
I guessed you would say dust extractor, sander and domino and I agree on the extractor and sander though not necessarily that model sander. A 5 inch sander can be a better choice for someone who makes small projects. Likewise, some people will have little use for a domino depending what they make.
ETS, OF1400, Domino.
The only Festool tool I have is domino 500. I think one of the smaller dust collection would be next.I bought the 3M ROS and I really am happy with that. I have Kreg track saw but if I had known how often I used it I might have gone with the Festool.
First Festool purchase was the CT 26 and ETS EC 150/5 together and honestly never looked back. Then literally a month later got myself the domino 500 :)
My list (Wow, i wrote my comment before i saw the video, and I TOTALLY agree)
1) vacuum (the best I ever had, used also for vakuuming the house)
2) cordless drill (I have the pdc10, i guess)
3) DF500 (I have both. The 500 is really all I use and is much more easy to use.)
4) OF1010, or higher
5) Tracksaw
But: I would rearrange depending on what you want to do. The vacuum is still the best one I ever had. Forget Dyson. Get a real vacuum. And let me be clear: long power cable, properly sized. Long hose. Light weight and easy on your hands when vacuming. Really big bags. Easy to open and replace the bag. It is a really great machine.
Thank you sooo much for this video.
My first Festool was the TS 55. Then I bought the domino 500 and a Festool hose for my shop vacuum. I have been looking at a Festool sanders, my dewalt is not cutting it.
I understand I can’t get a sander without dust collection and I’m saving for both and this video has reassured my decision.
Glad it helped!
I caught a holy grail and managed to get a Domino 500 and a CT48 for 1100 bucks, and i'm so happy with them. Absolutely incredible tools.
From near the home country of Festool.. Yes - The latest CT Mini/Midi, paired with the Bluetooth remote is really no 1 if you start out and have scarcely used dust extraction on hand tools before. As you say sanding with Festool is a whole new and a delight experience. I now use 4 different Festool dust extractors with: Routers, HKC 55 circular saw, a variety of FT sanders, CS 50 table saw and more, even the odd drilling - thanks to the convenience of the Bluetooth remote and mobility of the dust extractor.
Each to their own needs further down the road.. but there’s a often forgotten gem: The HKC 55.. I love it! On standard rail, FSK rail or freehand. I use it for high grade plywood as well with a fine tooth blade and the results are excellent. It has even replaced 50% or more of what I usually did on the mitre saw. Good video Bent🤙
Basically agree. Dust extraction is the key reason I buy Festool. The health benefits make it a no brainer (not to mention that good dust extraction often makes for much better tool performance, particularly in sanding). I already had a Fein dust extractor so- here are my choices. First is the exact sander - EQ/150-5- that you recommended. Second choice is a Festool router. If you rout much MDF, I'd make this number one. Lastly (not that I own one) is the sliding miter saw.
I'm curious whether you would replace the Fein with a Festool dust extractor in my position. Thanks for the great content.
I don’t have any experience with the Fein vacs but I am sure they are also excellent
This is the best advice I’ve heard on Festool.
I agree with your #1 and #2 picks. My first tools were a dust extractor and sander. For my personal needs at the time my #3 was the TS55 track saw and two FS1400 tracks. Great video!
Thanks for sharing!
Same here!
My thoughts as well. Especially if this is geared towards beginner/intermediate wood workers. Saw over Domino
My first 3 Festool Tools were a Cordless 12V Drill with all the attachments... A TS55 Track Saw... CT Midi Dust Extractor!!
Most of my Festool Tools are Corded!!
My first Festool's.
CT MIDI I
LS 130 EQ
OF 1400
& Most recent
TS 60 KEB
ETS 125 REQ
The dust extractor is oh so true. I have 2 x MIDI-2 and I just bought at a liquidation auction the CTM 36.
Exactly the order and Festool models I bought a number of years ago, so of course I concur (also started with their "more comfortable" ETS 125 REQ sander after a demo). Excellent guidance as always! 😊
The items I bought from the FesTool line was
1: Dust extractor
2: Sander
3: Cordless Track Saw
4: Domino - smaller one
I used to be a Bosch guy. I'd bought into their 18v platform, and so I bought their wired tools as well; until I realised that in some cases, other manufacturers just had better offerings. So I bought the Festool Domino, a tracksaw from Makita, and routers from Trend and Triton.
Brand loyalty works in favour of the brand and against the consumer. Festool ARE a good brand, no doubt, but I don't think my tracksaw experience would be that much better if I'd have bought the Festool.
This summer, I'm going to be buying into the Hikoki 18v system for their framing nailers. Bosch do make a 2nd fix nailer, but I need a 1st fix as well, and Hikoki seem to be the best for nail guns.
I can tell you that I am still a beginner, and a hobbyist at that. the domino was a way to make joinery without the (or at least less) mistakes. you could argue that things like the Dowelmax are just as good, and that is valid... but for me the Domino is just easier. That was my first Festool Purchase. My second (and Third) was the MFT/3 and track saw. I went that route over a table saw because I need to be able to store it when not is use. there are trade offs for sure. and just for reference, I am making things in plywood and hardwood so if you are thinking about that setup but don't want to be limited to only sheet goods it works great for dimensional lumber using some parallel guides.
I bought the midrange plunge router and dust extractor years ago. Well before the domino was even around. I’m at the point now that I’ll be setting up my own small home shop this year. I’m a “buy once, cry once” kind of person. 😂
The Festool dust extractor is a no brainer,since I started my Festool collection, I've had no problems with having to clean away wide spread dust dispersion. The dust extraction unit is an essential piece of kit I've found that using my Festool tools with only the standard dust bag that comes with the tools still make a substantial amount of mess. With my Festool Midi Dust Extraction Unit, the waste product is reduced to near on nothing....!!!!
I totally get what you say about buying thae dust extractor first...!!!!
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First festool I bought was the track saw TS55 when I was 15 , second the CT 48, third was the OF 1400
If you are a Festool skeptic, I recommend the $250 ETS 125 sander. This is a night and day difference between any box store sander. Use it with the bag until it's time for a new tool.
Then I would buy the Midi dust extractor. You will be very surprised.
Lastly, the Domino. I only say it in this order because of practicality for most people. You will definitely want the dust extractor while using the Domino.
These 3 things, and a tablesaw with a cyclone collector on a shop vac are the perfect starting tools to make tons of projects, very quickly and conveniently.
Once you have come this far, as a bonus, consider a track saw with the TSO brand 90 degree edge square. Perfectly square crosscuts. Easy sheet material breakdown. Jointing edges. Cut any angle. Deadly accurate. I would say 95% dust free.
This list makes life easy and woodworking more fun.
I disagree with the bag. You don't get most of the benefits that Festool offers, dust elimination. Start with a shop vac and move up to to an extractor, later.