They made the tire but don't know how much weight is on it! If you have 400lbs bike with 120lbs rider or 800lbs bike with a 250lbs rider I think it's totally different ball game!
Actually, neither are optimal. The motorcycle manufacturer does not know the weight of the rider(s) and the tire manufacturer does not know the weight of the rider(s) and does not know which exact motorcycle the tir will end up on. The manufacturer does know which motorcycle they will use on a particular model of motorcycle so they would be closest to the "correct" tire pressure. To really tune in the correct tire pressure for you, you'll need to teak the PSI to your particular weight and riding style. Are you slim, medium or plump? Do you ride gentle ad easy or are you a F'n wildcat with a death wish on the road? Start with the manufacturer's suggested pressure (which should NOT be the MAXIMUM pressure the tire can handle! Then tweak the front and rear pressures a bit to what feels good on the road. Yes this takes time but anything worthwhile in life does. I'm 6ft. 210 lbs. and on my GSXR 600 I like 27 front and 32 rear. Arear tire should always have a few more psi than the front because the reer is powered by the engine and the front is not
I go by a manual’s quick specs pages for most of my general maintenance. It reads 36 in the front tire and 40 in the rear if you have a passenger (Mrs.Lucero) which I have 90% of the time I ride.
I usually go by the tire manufacturer. After all... the manufacturer is basing their recommended PSI on the factory stock tires. They have no idea what you're gonna put on it.
If the motorcycle manufacturer has a list of tires and their proper pressures, I'll use that. Most times though, the manufacturer's recommendation is for one specific tire. When you switch to a new tire, it's best to go with the recommendation from the tire manufacturer. They usually tell you how much to inflate it based upon the weight of the vehicle.
Learned the hard way. Follow the instruction in the owners manual of the motorcycle. Ended up with cupping on the front tire. Next time I’m using whatever is on the side of the tire. Tires are too expensive
On my 07' Fatboy I run 36psi in the front tire & 40psi in the rear tire. I run a little higher in the rear tire do to the saddle bags I added, with the contents, plus I weigh 265 lbs. Harley Davidson recommends 36psi front, & 38psi rear.
@@TheBadgers With the Dunlop elite tires I averaged around 10K miles, I tried Michelin Commander II's which gave me only 4, 738 miles, I am now using Avon Cobra Chrome II tires which are dong very well.
The tire has a MAXIMUM CAPACITY written on it. It’s not a recommendation. It says if you go over this pressure you will surely die. Tire pressure rises with the temperature of the air inside the tire. The road friction gets the tire hot as does the sun beating down on the tire. The MAXIMUM CAPACITY limit is used when installing the tire to seat the bead. That’s WHY is says MAX. PRESSURE, *not* recommended pressure
I should check my psi more often than I do .. most part I stick to the tire manufacturers recommendation. 2015 Beta 500 rr with Dunlop trailmax mission back and front. Great for the street and do fairly well on hard pack and large boulders when it presents itself
I have an old Evo tour guide 800 pounds so I do 1 or 2 pounds below the recommendation on the side of the tire because when I ride. I ride long runs 120-140mi as i go along.
If I still have the original tires my bike came with then I use the manufacturer tire pressure BUT if I changed my tires then I use the recommended tire pressure for That specific tire(s)
Assuming the tires are stock, the tire pressure shall be set by the company and the manufacturer being the same. If you have changed from standard stock size then you go by the tire manufacturer.
Unless you are using an OEM tire the motorcycle company has no idea of the tire. Same goes for the tire company having no idea what it's on. So the specs are very vague and leave alot of room. On A motorcycle you can feel the difference in under inflated and overinflated also wear shows rather quickly to low pressurr more traction and heat faster wear. I Typically run 5 psi under max Psi of tire and adjust from there.
I have always went with motorcycle manufacturer specs with the next one I am going with somewhere in between and since its the same tire same bike we will see what the real world results are.
Tire pressure on the side of the tire is for Max load at that pressure. That has nothing to do with the actual bike you put it on or its characteristics that a certain psi. 22 year mechanic
I know one thing. I’ve ridden bikes for over 45 yrs and until I started riding Harleys I never had a problem with tire cupping. I can say it’s not because of tire pressure as I check my tires and also have a termite pressure monitoring system. I did a little research and found that it could be my riding style of leaning to much on the curves or breaking too hard. 😂I don’t know what the issue is but as you can tell I’m an old dude on a 900+ lb motorcycle so I’m not racing. Anyone else gave this problem?
Are you using tire manufacturer specs, or motorcycle manufacturer?? Are you running the same tires as it came with from the factory? Have you ever changed your fork oil?
@@TheBadgers new bike new tires. Tire manufacturer specs. Like I said I’ve never had this problem before on the numerous Jap bikes. Taking a trip this weekend and when I get back I’ll be buying a new rear tire.
The tire company does not post the psi for the machine. They will only put the MAX on the sidewall of the tire. The PSI on the tire is not what is recommend by the machine company. Read the side of the tire. The bike data plate or manual will give the recommended psi for that bike. I play with my pressure to get best ride, handling and wear, never to exceed the max or below the recommended. I retired from Bridgestone, lol
Awesome love hearing from an expert, so my thoughts are I will use my bike as example, the bike is 18 years old, the manufacturing and materials for the tires have likely changed in 18 years, would the motorcycle manufactures recommendations still be best
@@-MrRichBiker1967 lol I do my own thing, this is a video to get everyone talking and it worked, if you look in the manual it says for dunlop tires only
@The Badgers I believe the bike company recommends what makes for the best handling and grip. I have found that with a bike like mine, Goldwing. It has too much weight so the tires would get a lot less mileage. I have messed with pressures with different tires and along with experiences with my Association members have come with the best for my riding and my bike. Of course living in Tennessee for 35 yrs I was really rough on tires I think. Be safe, have fun
Ok let's change to chevy truck tires. 1/2 3/4 & 1ton all have the same size tire. Yes your 1/2 ton can handle the tire psi of a 1 ton. But you will not get a good ride. And your truck can't handel the weight that the tire could handle. My chevy calls for 40 psi. The tire claims max 80 psi. I would give up a nice riding truck to have the tires set to Carry what my truck can't handel. The tire was not made with just 1 bike in mind. So don't over inflate the tire. If the tire says max 10 psi but the bike says 30 psi. You need better tires or a lighter bike. As 1 comment said a motor training officer said 40 psi ft pressure which is higher then the back calls for but still ok for the tire.
The repair manual says the recommended tire pressure is only for the tires that came on the bike from the factory, so like most people I don't run the stock tires
So consensus of opinion is 40 psi front and rear for Harley Davidson. Best for Maneuverability and wear. I have seen 22,000 on the rear and the front could have gone a little more . Dunlop Elite on a 2014 Streetglide. 47 years and counting in the saddle. 👍😎🇺🇲🏴
@@TheBadgers I ran the Motorcycle manufacturer numbers for years. Never got many miles out of any tire. I started using the max pressure on the tire and seem to get better tire life
Motorcycle Manufacturer, because the same tire is use on other motorcycles of different weight and the tire must be inflated to the correct psi for best traction.
The PSI spec on a tire is the tire manufacturer's MAXIMUM cold rating. The motorcycle manufacturer has an ideal pressure based on motorcycle and rider weight combined. Always check the specs for your bike and the rider/passenger/cargo weights and the type of riding you plan to do.
Always to what the manufacture recommends, it’s tested throughly for that particular bikes best performance and wear. However on dirt bikes and adventure bikes that go off tarmac lowering the pressure is better for traction under certain conditions.
@@TheBadgers I’m referring to tire manufacturers recommending going with the vehicle suggested pressure. It’s across the industry, cars, motorcycles… Get new tires and the technician will set it to what the vehicle recommends.
The PSI on the sidewall the tire is usually the max air pressure you should put in that tire. You should go with the manufacturer's recommendations for that vehicle. You can have the same tire that will go a multiple vehicles and due to the weight of the vehicle it might require different air pressure
no tyre company on earth publishes tyre pressures for a bike that is being ridden. that number on your sidewall is the absolute maximum pressure that should be used for seating the tyre when it is being fitted to the rim, newb, and it should always be reduced after the tyre is seated
Not true the psi on any tire car or motorcycle is what they are required to make the tire never go what’s on tire it’s a maximum requirement basically regulation of the tire always go by manufacture specs on this if you put maximum pressure in the tire what happens when you ride and tire gets hot that’s why there’s cold psi be careful all it’s serious look at the side of your door on your car or truck or in glove box also as you add weight to vechile please do homework my friend lost his daughter for a mechanic making this mistake please
I hook the air hose to it and drink a beer, when I’m full it’s full 😂😂😂
Tire company made it. They know what they made.
Exactly.
They made the tire but don't know how much weight is on it! If you have 400lbs bike with 120lbs rider or 800lbs bike with a 250lbs rider I think it's totally different ball game!
I set mine at 40 I learned that from a police motorcycle instructor. Said it gave you best maneuverability and wear
Good Info to know Thanks Bud
Riddin like a pro in no time!!
That’s the exact same tire pressure I run on mine for the exact same reason.
Thats what you should do for touring and riding 2 up.
Is that on a sport bike?
51 years: I use whatever feels right for that tire on that bike.
Gotcha so how long do you have to ride a new tire to get that correct?
@TheBadgers use whichever recommendation you prefer and adjust the pressures according to how the bike feels.
Actually, neither are optimal.
The motorcycle manufacturer does not know the weight of the rider(s) and the tire manufacturer does not know the weight of the rider(s) and does not know which exact motorcycle the tir will end up on. The manufacturer does know which motorcycle they will use on a particular model of motorcycle so they would be closest to the "correct" tire pressure. To really tune in the correct tire pressure for you, you'll need to teak the PSI to your particular weight and riding style. Are you slim, medium or plump? Do you ride gentle ad easy or are you a F'n wildcat with a death wish on the road? Start with the manufacturer's suggested pressure (which should NOT be the MAXIMUM pressure the tire can handle! Then tweak the front and rear pressures a bit to what feels good on the road. Yes this takes time but anything worthwhile in life does. I'm 6ft. 210 lbs. and on my GSXR 600 I like 27 front and 32 rear. Arear tire should always have a few more psi than the front because the reer is powered by the engine and the front is not
40 rear, and 36 front. That is the pressure I have run for over 40 years and never an issue
On different bikes, different makes, different brand tires?
@@TheBadgers yes different bikes, from goldwings to v stars and harleys
Most say 40 on the back and 30 on the front.
40 front and back on my electra glide
I go by the tire. I wouldn’t choose oil weight based on what the air filter says
Fair enough
40psi frt/back
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That's what I run 🤔👍
I go by a manual’s quick specs pages for most of my general maintenance. It reads 36 in the front tire and 40 in the rear if you have a passenger (Mrs.Lucero) which I have 90% of the time I ride.
I use the motor co recommendation!
I always use tire specs
I usually go by the tire manufacturer. After all... the manufacturer is basing their recommended PSI on the factory stock tires. They have no idea what you're gonna put on it.
If the motorcycle manufacturer has a list of tires and their proper pressures, I'll use that. Most times though, the manufacturer's recommendation is for one specific tire. When you switch to a new tire, it's best to go with the recommendation from the tire manufacturer. They usually tell you how much to inflate it based upon the weight of the vehicle.
bike manufacture for normal riding, subtract two for harder riding, subtract 4-6 for twisties
Set it to the motor cycle and car manufacture recomdation.
Learned the hard way. Follow the instruction in the owners manual of the motorcycle. Ended up with cupping on the front tire. Next time I’m using whatever is on the side of the tire. Tires are too expensive
i have always used the motor cycle manufactuer
On my 07' Fatboy I run 36psi in the front tire & 40psi in the rear tire. I run a little higher in the rear tire do to the saddle bags I added, with the contents, plus I weigh 265 lbs. Harley Davidson recommends 36psi front, & 38psi rear.
Do you get good life and wear out of your tires
@@TheBadgers With the Dunlop elite tires I averaged around 10K miles, I tried Michelin Commander II's which gave me only 4, 738 miles, I am now using Avon Cobra Chrome II tires which are dong very well.
The tire has a MAXIMUM CAPACITY written on it. It’s not a recommendation. It says if you go over this pressure you will surely die. Tire pressure rises with the temperature of the air inside the tire. The road friction gets the tire hot as does the sun beating down on the tire. The MAXIMUM CAPACITY limit is used when installing the tire to seat the bead. That’s WHY is says MAX. PRESSURE, *not* recommended pressure
I found my front tire at 46, my back at 50. I was having wobbles. I set the back to 38-40 front 36… no more wobbles. Fat bob 2008
Looks like one consistent and best answer is impossible.
Like most things in this world 1000 different answers
I should check my psi more often than I do .. most part I stick to the tire manufacturers recommendation. 2015 Beta 500 rr with Dunlop trailmax mission back and front. Great for the street and do fairly well on hard pack and large boulders when it presents itself
Yes checking the tire pressure regularly will help the life of the tire
I go by the specs from the bike manufacturer. Usually 36 lbs Front and 36 lbs - 40 lbs Rear depending on a passenger and cargo.
Most specs are for a specific tire and brand
Always set to motorcycle manufacturers spec
I have an old Evo tour guide 800 pounds so I do 1 or 2 pounds below the recommendation on the side of the tire because when I ride. I ride long runs 120-140mi as i go along.
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If I still have the original tires my bike came with then I use the manufacturer tire pressure BUT if I changed my tires then I use the recommended tire pressure for That specific tire(s)
Thanks For Watching
I use Harley’s recommendation all the time . I get good tire wear and comfort. Too much air kills the ride comfort.
Where's the tire manufacturer's recommendation?
My ride comfort.
Makes sense
MoCo’s recommendation seems to be the right way to go based on your bike, plus whether you’re riding solo or two up.
I use MY “feel” recommendations + 10 psi for fudge factor!
Motorcycle manufacturers
Assuming the tires are stock, the tire pressure shall be set by the company and the manufacturer being the same.
If you have changed from standard stock size then you go by the tire manufacturer.
I run 1 lb less than tire manufacturers recommend psi for expansion I’ve seen 20k miles on a set of Michelin Commander 2 on a 2018 Indian Roadmaster.
If the tire sidewalk says 44psi, I run at 38psi. Usually around 6#s below recommended by tire maker, not motorcycle manufacturer.
40 in all my bikes
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I would gather that the motorcycle company uses the tire manufacturer specs so with a stock tire it's the same thing.
they are still a few pounds below max from the tire manufacturer
Unless you are using an OEM tire the motorcycle company has no idea of the tire. Same goes for the tire company having no idea what it's on. So the specs are very vague and leave alot of room. On A motorcycle you can feel the difference in under inflated and overinflated also wear shows rather quickly to low pressurr more traction and heat faster wear. I Typically run 5 psi under max Psi of tire and adjust from there.
I have always went with motorcycle manufacturer specs with the next one I am going with somewhere in between and since its the same tire same bike we will see what the real world results are.
I use both until I get to max tire manufacturing recommended pressure!
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Tire pressure on the side of the tire is for Max load at that pressure. That has nothing to do with the actual bike you put it on or its characteristics that a certain psi. 22 year mechanic
What it says on the tire. For everything.
In winter I drop it by 15psi
Thanks for watching
I would set mine to the tire recommend pressure but id like to know wich is the correct way😂
I am afraid there is an argument for both ways so I guess we do what we feel is best
As long as you are keeping up on your tires that’s a good thing.
The H-D dealership I bought my 2007 from recommend 38 psi in both tires for best life expectancy.
I know one thing. I’ve ridden bikes for over 45 yrs and until I started riding Harleys I never had a problem with tire cupping. I can say it’s not because of tire pressure as I check my tires and also have a termite pressure monitoring system. I did a little research and found that it could be my riding style of leaning to much on the curves or breaking too hard. 😂I don’t know what the issue is but as you can tell I’m an old dude on a 900+ lb motorcycle so I’m not racing. Anyone else gave this problem?
Are you using tire manufacturer specs, or motorcycle manufacturer?? Are you running the same tires as it came with from the factory? Have you ever changed your fork oil?
@@TheBadgers new bike new tires. Tire manufacturer specs. Like I said I’ve never had this problem before on the numerous Jap bikes. Taking a trip this weekend and when I get back I’ll be buying a new rear tire.
My knowledge !
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Motorcycle recommendation
The tire company does not post the psi for the machine. They will only put the MAX on the sidewall of the tire. The PSI on the tire is not what is recommend by the machine company. Read the side of the tire. The bike data plate or manual will give the recommended psi for that bike. I play with my pressure to get best ride, handling and wear, never to exceed the max or below the recommended. I retired from Bridgestone, lol
Awesome love hearing from an expert, so my thoughts are I will use my bike as example, the bike is 18 years old, the manufacturing and materials for the tires have likely changed in 18 years, would the motorcycle manufactures recommendations still be best
@@-MrRichBiker1967 lol I do my own thing, this is a video to get everyone talking and it worked, if you look in the manual it says for dunlop tires only
@The Badgers I believe the bike company recommends what makes for the best handling and grip. I have found that with a bike like mine, Goldwing. It has too much weight so the tires would get a lot less mileage. I have messed with pressures with different tires and along with experiences with my Association members have come with the best for my riding and my bike. Of course living in Tennessee for 35 yrs I was really rough on tires I think. Be safe, have fun
Wonder why he is asking this Question , Tire Manufacturer , Ding Ding
Use cycle specs
Even when the specs are 18 years old but the tires are being manufactured to current specs?
@@TheBadgers has always worked, bike or use didn't change
Motorcycle recommendations I’d rather change tire then redue suspension 😂
I only redo the suspension if it starts leaking
Ok let's change to chevy truck tires. 1/2 3/4 & 1ton all have the same size tire. Yes your 1/2 ton can handle the tire psi of a 1 ton. But you will not get a good ride. And your truck can't handel the weight that the tire could handle. My chevy calls for 40 psi. The tire claims max 80 psi. I would give up a nice riding truck to have the tires set to Carry what my truck can't handel.
The tire was not made with just 1 bike in mind. So don't over inflate the tire. If the tire says max 10 psi but the bike says 30 psi. You need better tires or a lighter bike.
As 1 comment said a motor training officer said 40 psi ft pressure which is higher then the back calls for but still ok for the tire.
motorcycle manufacturer
Whatever is recommended by the bike manufacturer.
Also tire manufacture psi rating his to support multiple weight vechile s one tire goes on many different weight vechile s
The repair manual says the recommended tire pressure is only for the tires that came on the bike from the factory, so like most people I don't run the stock tires
What it says on the tire is right
Tire they know the specs
I adjust my tire pressure to what I like. On my fatboy I put 40 psi in both tires and my 05 Dyna I do 40 psi in the back and 37 in the front💁✌️😎💪🏻
I don't know if it's the tire company or the motorcycles recommendation but I run 40 pounds front and rear in my Electra glide
Tire manufacturer 💯
The motorcycle manufacture Period!
Where do you order tires? I don't want to order anything from harley
Here is where I buy my tires from and a lot of other parts.j-and-p-cycles.pxf.io/B0bGGx
Thank you and always ride safely @TheBadgers
So consensus of opinion is 40 psi front and rear for Harley Davidson. Best for Maneuverability and wear. I have seen 22,000 on the rear and the front could have gone a little more . Dunlop Elite on a 2014 Streetglide. 47 years and counting in the saddle. 👍😎🇺🇲🏴
Where do you get the tire manufacturer spec?
Most manufacturers have it on their website, they also have cold max psi on the sidewall of the tire
@@TheBadgers I ran the Motorcycle manufacturer numbers for years. Never got many miles out of any tire. I started using the max pressure on the tire and seem to get better tire life
40R 38f
The tire. If you use the OEM.tire you use the bikes. You put eney other tires you use the tires spec.
Of coarse the tire manufacturer!
Thanks for watching
The motorcycle manufacturer
I pray she had more than 2600 miles on the tire I have 15k miles on my cheap Kenda tires
She had about 30k on her front tire
@@TheBadgers That makes more sense. What does she ride?
@@turdferguson4007 2005 Harley Davidson Fatboy
@@TheBadgers that’s a lot of miles for a tire on a Fatboy 😯 Good for ya’ll.
@@turdferguson4007 that’s about average for us we both ride Fatboys 16-20 on rear tire, about double that for a front
Bike OEM
Tire manufacturer is what I use.
Tire manufacturers
Always, ALWAYS set your tires to the vehicle manufacture. The tire manufacture only list MAX COLD PRESSURE.
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Tire always
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Motorcycle Manufacturer, because the same tire is use on other motorcycles of different weight and the tire must be inflated to the correct psi for best traction.
40 rear 36 front I've never had any problems central Texas Harley Davidson said that was perfect
It’s hard to read words
Ow it handles.
When you ride all over the country that changes daily
@@TheBadgers high altitude, low altitude, hot or cold affects tires.
The PSI spec on a tire is the tire manufacturer's MAXIMUM cold rating. The motorcycle manufacturer has an ideal pressure based on motorcycle and rider weight combined. Always check the specs for your bike and the rider/passenger/cargo weights and the type of riding you plan to do.
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40psi
I don't worry about that stupid shit man....between 35 and 40
Right why worry about the only 2 things that are between you and the road.
@@TheBadgers I just said between 35 and 40 jeesh
@@michaelmitchell5909 Jeesh you said you don't worry about stupid shit referring to your tires
Tire sidewall lists max pressure for the tire, always set to vehicle spec.
It doesnt matter
ok hey you do you
Motorcycle manufacturer
Always to what the manufacture recommends, it’s tested throughly for that particular bikes best performance and wear. However on dirt bikes and adventure bikes that go off tarmac lowering the pressure is better for traction under certain conditions.
Most tires give max, then tell you to run at motorcycle recommendation.
RepIr manual says that the recommended are for the Oem dunlops only.
@@TheBadgers I’m referring to tire manufacturers recommending going with the vehicle suggested pressure. It’s across the industry, cars, motorcycles… Get new tires and the technician will set it to what the vehicle recommends.
The PSI on the sidewall the tire is usually the max air pressure you should put in that tire. You should go with the manufacturer's recommendations for that vehicle. You can have the same tire that will go a multiple vehicles and due to the weight of the vehicle it might require different air pressure
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I use the tire manufacturer’s specs. I believe that they made the tire so they know what the optimum pressure should be.
I go with the tire company. They make the tires after all.
no tyre company on earth publishes tyre pressures for a bike that is being ridden.
that number on your sidewall is the absolute maximum pressure that should be used for seating the tyre when it is being fitted to the rim, newb, and it should always be reduced after the tyre is seated
Tire manufacturer, they made the tire
Not true the psi on any tire car or motorcycle is what they are required to make the tire never go what’s on tire it’s a maximum requirement basically regulation of the tire always go by manufacture specs on this if you put maximum pressure in the tire what happens when you ride and tire gets hot that’s why there’s cold psi be careful all it’s serious look at the side of your door on your car or truck or in glove box also as you add weight to vechile please do homework my friend lost his daughter for a mechanic making this mistake please
Manufacturer specs specifically states that it is only for the factory dunlop tires
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