Oil Canning Auto Body Panels Fix - How to Shrink Sheet Metal
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- čas přidán 26. 11. 2018
- Need a fix for "Oil Canning" auto body panels? In this very short video I will show you how to repair, shrink sheet metal and stiffen body panels the easy way. Works every time!!
/ @lakesideautobody - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Daily dose of auto body. We used to put a cold wet shop rag on it after we heated it up.
I need to get my ass out to the garage instead of being watching CZcams... Lol
Yes you do. I like the cold rag trick too but then I have to go get water.
Thank you, so glad i subscribed to your channel! Had some canning in a small spot now its fixed
You're welcome Bryan - it is a difference maker when working in a body shop. Many guys got very frustrated when it came to this problem :)
Pefect fix, absolute legend!
Thanks - it's a game changer. Once you get the hang of this technique it will change your world if you're working in a body shop - there will never be any thing you can't fix :)
Excellent video always leaning. Appreciate thanks
This really changed my life as a body man - I was no longer afraid of an oil canning situation. I could work the dent however I wanted - if I ran into stretched metal - no big deal - this worked every time. Glad you enjoyed it. Jerry
Nice work, enjoying the channel
Thank you - glad you like it. Have a good weekend. Jerry
Worked for me, and I have no clue what in doing. Thanks!!!
Glad to hear it :)
love your channel
Thank you.
Great video Thank You!!
You are welcome :)
Thanks, Merry Christmas
You're welcome - Happy Holidays to you too :)
Thank you 👍🏽 thumbs up and subscribed
You're welcome - thanks for the sub Shaun. Feel free to ask any ?s you have - I get to them 1-2 times a day - Jerry ✌
Thanks, need to try this.
You're welcome - it really made a difference once I had this method down. There's nothing you can't fix with this in your bag of tricks :)
Awesome technique
It changed my life - really. Almost every serious dent has stretched metal and it's always a bummer getting the dreaded oil canning just felt great to know I didn't have to worry about it anymore :)
Thank you. Got some canning, now procedure. Clear concise with results.
Many times with severe dents you'll come across panels that pop in and out - this is one process that worked for me every time. Check this one out too if you want... czcams.com/video/K5MVVnsERqc/video.html
Thank you!
You're welcome my friend :)
What gas are you using?
that's awesome you don't necessarily need a torch set for this. that's for the tip.
You're welcome - it works every time no mater what the situation is
Thank you sir
You're welcome
Thank you
You're welcome - thanks for watching 😊
Thank you👍👍
You're welcome :)
nice job.
Thanks
Was this filmed
I got some panel warpage from welding some rust holes from the inside- the outside body panel is now oil canning. The paint on the outside is fine though- I fear if I try this method it'll burn the paint on the other side. Any other fixes?
This will mess up the paint for sure. You are saying the paint is in perfect condition but the panel is popping in and out? It sounds like you can get to the panel from the inside. If so and the panel is nice and straight, I'd glue a piece of wood in there to keep it rigid or something. Just a thought - sounds crazy but if you don't want to mess up the paint there's not too many options. Let me know what you end up doing with it - curious :)
Good vid .. Build On
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. Jerry
I got some questions...When was this recorded? It looks like its on VHS lol, but sounds like a regular youtube vid. Also, what paintjob is that on a Crown Vic? (Maybe its a Grand Marquis). Two tone? Was that factory? So much strangeness in one video, but nice tip.
Funny you say that - I was just talking about that with a fella that commented. The video was recorded a couple of years ago on a Panasonic PV950 VHS but I had no $ to buy a new one - my latest videos have new camera though. Not sure what paint is on the Crown Vic as I borrowed the door from a local yard to make the video. Sort of cool color though - it is factory. Glad you enjoyed the video - my later videos are a bit nicer - have a good weekend :)
@@LakesideAutobody Oh, I dont mind the VHS. It brought back memories...I have a Panasonic shoulder carried recorder too. Might be the same model? (I have to look lol). I have even thought about using my camcorder to give it a more retro look..or something. lol. Id love to see a video with the Crown Vic though. I still have one, and had many over the years. Great cars.
How do you remove the dent from the hammer hit?
That dent is going to be filled anyway so the little ding will get filled at the same time with body filler
Bom ensino de como assentar a chapa da porta.
Isso é legal da sua parte - obrigado
Hey buddy I have two spots on the roof of my 69 Chevy van that are oil caning. Would you recommend this process for the roof or do you know of any other ways that might be better ? When it comes to oil caning the options are cut it out and replace or the process you show here right ?
I would not and have never cut it out and replaced. If you have a head liner that's right beneath it you might want to remove that. This will work. You may have to do it in a few spots but it will tighten up the metal for sure. Start out small if you want - maybe even with a sharp point on the torch to keep it confined. Here's another video on this process - it has worked for me every single time on every panel I've ever used it on. czcams.com/video/K5MVVnsERqc/video.html Last... my buddy I worked with would have just "hit it low and fill it with dough" as he said but you may see it from the inside. Let me know what you end up doing :)
@@LakesideAutobody thanks so much man ! I’ll definitely let you know. I’m even probably going to make a you tube video of me doing it.
@@johnmartin5153 Very cool - I'll check it out. Find the very center of the "oil can" and start from there. Light at first to see what happens. Don't be afraid if you have to chase it a bit - you'll eventually tackle it. Sounds like football - go Lions! 🏈
What kind of gas do u use. I’m working on a 1961 truck bed side with a long dent. Pulled the dent using washers welded to dent and pulled out dent but I’m running into severely stretched metal
80/20 Argon & CO2 Mixture. When you weld the washer or shim to the sheet metal, you only need one or 2-4 tacks. You should have 0 distortion after welding your pull tabs. When you pull, go easy. If you feel that you are stretching the metal in once spot move to the next. Here's a good example - czcams.com/video/RSopz6XWncQ/video.html Let me know if you have more ?s.
Any advice for this nasty looking dent? 1959 Chevy Apache so it’s “real steel”. Can’t get to other side due to inner panel. Was hoping I could get someone to shrink it to work it out (now... can I attach a picture?)
This may help: czcams.com/video/K_t4Bu6GKeM/video.html or czcams.com/video/sStbeOOgyD8/video.html - Both show how you could pull a dent from the outside - I also have some videos using the stud welder to pull from the outside.
Lakeside Autobody thank you. Looks like I actually have more damage than I thought. Door frame is pushed in and down. Need a pretty heavy straightener to do it.
@@patrickchristie82 Got ya, Let me know in the future what you did with it.
Does oil canning spring back? Or warped inwards? Can this be applied to decklid thin metal between the underside supports that bowled downwards to trunk cabin.?
Yes - oil canning is when metal pops in and out or springs back like your said. This process can be applied anywhere you have oil canning going on :)
@@LakesideAutobody this doesn't oil can spring per say... more like it's pushed in from warped on blasting and super hot day
I'm going to try but do I heat from underneath where its now the high side? Or from top low depression side?
@@jdaspects You always want to pop it out first and work from the outside. Then find the crown (highest point) and go from there. You might have to chase it around a bit but keep at it and you will stop the oil canning. If you get good at this, it will be a game changer for you. Let me know how it goes. Oh - have an air nozzle ready just in case you get a little fire - no big deal - just blow it out with the air :)
@@LakesideAutobody don't use a wet towel? Maybe a pdr guy is better for shrinking it.
I didn't want to create a new dent from hitting it underneath.
Why couldn't one just reverse what made it warp in first place which was heat
Wet water works best..good vid.
Thanks
If I don’t have access to wet water will regular water work ok?
Jacob Murdock dude you know wet water has been extinct for a long time in this country. Everybody blames bush for the lack of wet water but I think it was really bill clintons fault.those were the days.
I left the paint on, and it stunk a little but the oil is gone. hopefully a good wax brings back the shine to the melted paint on my mothers passenger door
Oil canning is when a panel pops in and out after damage - this is a way to cure that.
I use fix all took 2nd place at sema 2013. 1970 cuda
Nothin' tougher than old MOPAR
Was this filmed in the past
Everything is filmed in the past....just saying.
A great demonstration of how not to metal shrink
The great thing about this method is that it works every single time. I've seen guys playing around in various shops wasting time hitting the metal on an angle, trying to use mysterious shrink hammers, even wasting the panel. Make no mistake, this works every time and all your left with is a ding - you have to fill the area anyway. Curious as to how you would keep a panel from oil canning after major damage. Let me know - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody the proper way to do it is once you have heated the panel to a red dot grab a flat hammer and dolly and just gently tap down around the red centre and as it cooling the panel will be srinking in nicely once its no longer moving in thats when you finish it off with the wet rag or air. Not to much extra work than your method with no dent.
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You can always buy a new door - that way the door would be worth more than the car :)
Jerry, I am attempting to repair a hood that had a dent and an oil canning effect near the aft edge, pax side. I repaired that, but then the oil canning seemed to "spread" for lack of a better term outward from that original area that I fixed. And so I repaired that area. Then it oil canned adjacent to that. I've been chasing it now for about a day and a half and have covered most of the hood. What is happening with this? Is it normal on larger panels for the oil canning to creep outwards like that?
That is normal but it should stop after about 3-4 tries. Your problem was my problem once when working at a shop. I was a young guy and fiddling around with a dent on the roof of a car - chasing it around like you've got - couldn't use heat cause of the headliner so each time I tapped a high spot down another would show up. An old guy came over and said, "Hit it low and fill it with dough!" He just wacked it down real good and said, "There. Now fill it." I really did end up chasing that dent across most of that roof. Boss was upset but had no solutions either so.. just did the best I could at the time. Let me know how it turns out for you - curious :)
@@LakesideAutobody Alright, thank you for the feedback Jerry. Good to know that such phenomena is normal when doing these types of repairs. In this instance, it did not stop after 3-4 applications of the heat-then-cool process. I did not do the "hit it low" business though. I chased it throughout the hood. It only seemed to disappear once I hit a body line or the panel's edge. I was willing to do that to the entire center section of the hood. However I noticed that the oil canning returned to areas that I had already worked, but on a larger scale. The smaller areas that I heat treated remained solid, but a larger-scale oil canning effect developed. At that point, I sat back and decided to look at the big picture. I had spent hours doing this and consumed several hand-sized bottles of propane on it. Yet there was still oil canning and enough highs-and-lows to make a bowl of spaghetti proud. Therefore I decided to just cut my losses and source a replacement hood. Disappointing. Quite so. However I did learn ... well something I'm sure even though I can't describe it at present. Anyway thank you again for replying to my question. I appreciate it.
@@RX7GSLSEowner You're welcome Jerry - maybe the metal wat just too stretched to save - not sure what was going on. Have a good weekend my friend :)
is that an oxy propane torch? right?
It's this torch (Bernzomatic TS8000BZKC Premium Trigger-Start Torch Kit) with a regular bottle of propane on it - the kind you use for a camping stove. The newer MAPP gas in the yellow bottle doesn't seem any hotter so I use the cheaper stuff. They changed the gas in the yellow bottle I think :)
how bout dry water?
I do it all the time using the air hose. It's dry but there's water in that air - thus "dry water" :)
Even
That 2nd oil canning spot looked like a face lol look at it closely!!!
Kinds turned a bit sideways just a lil bit! Wired indeed
Thanks for that - you're right too :)
Was this filmed in the 70s
No but it was filmed with a Panasonic PV950! The kind you carried on your shoulder :)
Explain to our youth what a oil can is ,oil came in plastic containers for 40 years now !
Ha! Good one :) or a record player, 8 track, playing outdoors with friends, etc.
Was this
Did this to my oil can and it quit working..
Nice :)
Sure you could do it that way... but you would be better off using an oxy with a small tip. Get it a cherry red the size of a small coin then use a panel hammer and dolly, going around the cherry in a circle motion striking the hammer towards the cherry... then one final strike in the centre of it.
Then cool like you are and no need for unnecessary dents like you created. Then file like normal 🤷♂️
Thats the proper way
This, kids, is how you DONT do it. Propane torches are the worst for heat shrinking. It heats up a ginormous area and doesn't get red hot, you end up warping the panel. DO NOT DO IT THIS WAY.
It works with both oxy acetylene or propane. Probably could use one of those torch lighters too. It's consistent, easy and works every time.
@@LakesideAutobody nope 🤦
That’s a poor method. Your heating both you high and low spots with a flame. Use a shrinking disc on a pistol grip gun and your going to only heat the high spots as your flat disc acts as a block. The kits are 70 buck on trick tools . Com
Even better why this tool is a better choice then a flame is because when you put your filler on and block through maybe to a high spot you can just hear it up with the disc and shrink it back down and not compromise your filler like a dummy with a torch 😎
The tool you are talking about heats up the metal just like a torch does but takes a lot longer, costs 70 dollars, doesn't get hot enough in my opinion, and is not direct enough. This exact method works every single time I've use it and that's over 30 years worth of dents - every size imaginable.
The disc let’s you control where you are putting the heat and open flame does not. It takes about 15 to 20 seconds to heat up the metal with a shrinking disc. I don’t know what you mean it takes to long. But I doubt with a torch you can take the metal to nearly perfect. I’ve done repairs where the metal work was so good thanks to the shrinking disc that I needed on thin coat of filler to do the repair
@Mark Mikheyev With respect when you work in a body shop you don't have to worry about all this thin layer stuff. You wont get good if you worry about "too much filler" A torch will get it hot enough to bring the metal way out to stiffen it enough for you to wack it on the hot spot w/o it bouncing so you can bring a bunch of metal into that area thus tightening "shrinking" the metal. I've literally have fixed 1000's of large and small dents and it works every time but just to keep an open mind I might look into that tool and give it a try - maybe I'll make a video on it - that is if it works :)
Lakeside Autobody I respect that. I hope you find it works for you as good as it works for me.
@@markmikheyev6730 Cool - have a good Thanksgiving.
Someone needs to teach you how to heat shrink
There's no better way - trust me. Everyone in the shops with shrinking hammers and all the fancy stuff wanted to know how I did it without fail every single time - It works every time on any panel - end of story :)
Was this filmed in the 80s
No but was filmed by a Panasonic PV950 - the kind you wear on your shoulder!